but again, mister bo, i mean supporters are still very, very significant in this country. he's a very popular to go with the opposition and a lot of members of the opposition who went to other political parties in previous elections did. so not because they, they wanted something, but because mr. bubble who is a key figure is no longer there. that's the problem now. so a lot of people will be watching. you re enterprise, the body and then the nation. and we're seeing these hearing crowds on the streets, obviously on while lots of people with their arms in the air, jumping up and down and people of all generations, some young children, as well as some older people. and some young men who are singing and dancing in the streets as mister barber's mercy cade go. his pass. you were talking earlier about divisions on the other side of town, but clearly his, he's being welcomed with a huge amount of enthusiasm and energy. you mentioned that his party is divided,

we were talking about how he could re unite that. where does the youth, what kind of a roles as a youth play in his party? the same stuff. yeah. they use coast to significant percentage of this country's population. in fact, they are in the majority and a lot of things, a lot of what happens in this country depends on the use. if they can harness the energy of the young people in ivory coast towards reconciliation. that will be an important step. excluding them could be dangerous because this is a country despite it coco resources, despite its growth in terms of the economy is still having difficulties with unemployment. it may infrastructure investment in education. it's investment in health care and government finds a way of engaging beef individuals in the process. it will be a very, very difficult road, too. renewer application on reconciliation and this you can yeah. again,

sounds of gunfire or even got been fired. i've called gather there, maybe things like getting a bit unruly out there. but again, as we were saying that you would constitute significant majority in this country and you be government can 100 best including mister bubble can room in military supporters of the opposition. and the only side rains in military supporters of the ruling parties. and then they will find a middle way to address concerns from both sides, from the opposition and the ruling party. so that's the situation right now. but again, like we said, a lot of things will depend on how well mister bud bowl reunify his party and how he beat the reconciliation effort. all of the ivory coast and the address on the ground for us in our vision with all the latest you've been watching. special coverage here on al jazeera of the return of laurel bag, both to ivory coast after being acquitted by the international criminal court of war. crimes and crimes against humanity. while do you stay with us?

i have much more news for you here. off the inside story. ah, ah. ah. they exchanged handshakes and prayed, but joe biden and vladimir putin 1st meeting ended with little agreement. so have they missed a chance to recess the russia us relationship? this is inside story. ah, ah, ah. hello and welcome to the program. i'm daddy navigate on the us and russian president. both acknowledge relations are at their lowest

points since the cold war. there one day summit and geneva was an opportunity to set out their differences. joe biden and vladimir putin exchanged highly choreograph handshakes on words of praise for each other. they agreed to resume talks on nuclear arms control and return ambassadors to each other as capitals. but there was little agreements on other issues, dividing the 2 nations, such as cyber security, the war in ukraine, on political repression in russia. natasha butler reports from geneva, an elegant 18th century villa overlooking lake geneva was the setting for the high stakes meeting. russian leader vladimir putin arrived 1st. he was greeted by the swift president who then welcome joe biden. the 2 men looked 10th as they stood for their 1st official photo handshake. bailey broke the ice relations between washington and moscow at the lowest point in decades. the face to face talks were

aimed at improving them. as i said outside, i was always off to several hours behind closed doors. there was some agreements pledges to repose. some buses extend an arms control treaty and disgust . cybersecurity both said the meeting was positive, but there was little progress on other issues, including the conflict and ukraine and human rights. putin dismiss biden's concerns about the legs in a volley, calling the russian opposition leader, a law breaker. ignoring the rules of law, this person went abroad for medical treatment. he arrived back in russia deliberately trying to be arrested. he knew what he wanted to fight and was clearly unimpressed by putin's attempt to compare russia. the treatment of opposition activists to the u. s. capital, right, i response is kind of what i communicated, but i think that's that's ridiculous comparison. one thing for literally

criminals to break through cordon, go into the capital, kill a police officer, and be held accountable. and that is for people objected marching on a capital one said you are not allowing me to speak freely. there were no major breakthroughs in this summit. and clearly, little common ground to put the return of us from russian on buses. to there is clearly a step to reopening communication between moscow and washington putin. this was a moment back on the world stage. likely to play out well is home for fight and it was an opportunity to put down red line and distance himself from his predecessor donald trump's approach. often accused of being soft on russia, why didn't may be closer to the more stable relationship. he said he wants with moscow, but he's still unlikely to be a predictable one. natasha butler just sarah geneva. ah, let's bring in our guest. joining us from brussels with theresa fallon,

who's the director. it's the center for russia, europe, asia studies, and also senior fellow at the chicago council and global affairs in moscow. pavel falcon, howard defense and military analysts. and joining us from as low as glen deason, who's a professor for international relations at the university of south eastern norway. welcome to the program. thanks for joining us on inside story. it's a result. was this some disappointments or was it a success for you? well, i think because there were such low expectations going in that it didn't matter, but was perceived as a success because nothing was expected. and i think that one of the big successes though, for the buyers in administration, was that when they initially asked president, put in to meet at the time of the ukraine crisis, pretty much that he put it in who has been in power for so long. i didn't anticipate this type of g 7 1st than the, the nato summit, and the china summit. and then the meeting with putting was the final piece. and

this is carefully choreographed diplomatic ballet. and i think that it showed that by didn't had all the support, he had this growing momentum, and i think that that was a really key when in that sense for president biden. in addition, it was very respectful put and showed up on time. the meeting actually ended a little earlier than expected, but i think it just shows that these are 2 world leaders. again, putting a lot of faith in that sense that president biden and his 1st trip to europe wanted to meet with him. they have many issues to discuss in regard to nuclear disarmament . and also we saw in the comments of the very end president biden's press conference. he mentioned that russia beings weak by china when he was trying to feel him out and see how you know, russian relations really were. yeah, we're going to drill down into the specific topics in just a moment. we're going over to you tourism was just mentioning the timing of this.

interesting. so joe biden going into it with momentum. having come out of the g 7 meetings in the nato meetings, do you agree with that assessment and also for you? what are your take away messages? well, i think it was necessity from the united states because previous policy has reached an end. but i would like to add that i think the, the meeting should be considered success because there was an agreement now to restore corporation in area of mutual interest. so arms control, cybersecurity, or even returning ambassadors to their posts for the sake of diplomacy. so like to point out that this agreement between the us and russia have not changed, not a bit, but there seems to be an effort now not to let the areas of disagreement undermine corporation in areas where mutual interests are important even for the world. so i think that how we reach this is because over the past, so near is everything in 2014, the us us use the maximum pressure strategy against russia in which washing

suspended operation area such as arms control. and even though it has been a mutual interest there, so i think that wasn't been hoping it could cost more pain to moscow than it did to washington, and thereby negotiate from a position of strength. but it hasn't been successful towards it. and then i think you've reached the end of the line and it's now seeking to reach out to russia and try to fix some of the area for at least where there's the common interest. so again, the next thing success. okay. pavlo i how would you describe success if indeed you see this successful and also there's a lot of talk online about who came out of best better was a biden, or was it put? and so what is the reaction in russia in particular? and for putin domestically was it successful? domestic. but we were successful in that it's being projected as successful summit. and actually the russian stay

kicked me, give propaganda machine is also kind of not kind of pressing the book in one of course, which was wonderful. but the message is, this was a success, glimmer of hope. so both sides actually by projecting success. bravo, of course, said that there was no real success practically. no real progress only practically or nothing. one of the chief, yes, there will be working groups and cybersecurity nuclear arms, which will be trying to work up agreements. and that will take years of resume, even if they anytime fear. just simply to resolve the problem of the diplomatic missions that are right now handicapped by the tit for tat expulsions and not issuing visa even. that's a big problem. again, there's going to be mother working group between state department and russian

foreign ministry, but russia is demanding that to begin with, the american should return the resort. the country retreats the batch of in long island, maryland that the american seas done their bomb. i ministration accusing russia using their for spying for binding to give them back. that's going to be a big problem internally for him. so i mean, the real issue actually, the issue that about war or piece, the issue, you create your aspirations to join nato was not practically address. that's all. that's what the grandma says, a great was not really discussed at all. right. well, if you did, you expect something different rates on ukraine, on the issue if ukraine, the russian leader said in fact there was nothing of substance to discuss. and, and as you know, he accused kiev of breaching agreements when it comes to the ukranian government

forces and progression separatists in the east of the country. so he had a very bullish tone. did you expect anything different? well, today actually there was an additional comment on that by the graphics show. graham and spokesman, nature test coff, who said that it was not much discussed, especially made to aspirations of ukraine. and he said that that is a red line because for russia that's a causes belly actually. and that's why russian forces are still mass on the ukrainian border today and will bit some. i actually succeed in preventing region a war in europe happening this summer or not. we'll see it will last by and said in 6 months we'll see ok. success, right, let's look at the other issue. cybersecurity for one, which was a big one. how significant was it that president biden's announcement that the u. s . and russia will task experts in both countries to address the threat of

ransomware attacks? i think there's an important, well, so far it's not an achievement is a statement of intention but, but nonetheless, i think it's significant because russia for a while offered united states to develop corporation on this issues. however, so far the u. s. us formulated the problem more as being preventing russia from doing any sondra activities which are not completely legitimate now. but like most other issues, there's always been this restraint on the american projects idea of mutual constraint. if i did that one side should be constrained. so again, the united states should, i think there's a police russia which is not acceptable to them. so that's to have this agreement come together not to discuss the rules of the road by i think it's good development. again, it's, it's a small, small, extreme, but it's, it's progress on the less theresa way and on this issue for us. because putting

denied any responsibility by russia and the attack on a particularly on the colonial oil pipeline that took place in may, which the american say, well, no, this has the hallmarks of the russians. so is it clear to you which way the future of the cybersecurity issue is going to go? well, this is a huge issue for the us. and in addition to the cyber hacking of the pipeline was also solar winds, which was very serious and cyber attack in the us. so i think that there is growing evidence that from russian entity was behind it. it's hard to pin it down which cannot be responsible for people in russia doing this, at least that's the russian narrative from what i understand. but i think that this is a great concern. i think that in the talks, i read that president, president biden 16 areas and they don't want to have any form of cyber hacking. they want to come up with kind of the rules of the road to guard rails which are really important for this issue. and this is, you know, the new type of warfare that we really have to come up with better agreements on.

so i think that as president biden, he wanted to meet in person to, you know, they have met each other before. but i think that these issues are so important that they, they really did require a personal meeting and i think it's a good start, but it's just a baby stuff. but it will introduce a new period of the lease discussion on these types of very serious areas. that could lead to frictions in the relationship. right? and probably the issue for human rights. i mean, president proof didn't budge at all when it came to election of all the he also suggested as you know, washington was a no position to lecture moscow on writing. he was trying to avoid the quote unquote disorder off popular movements in the u. s. this is, i suppose not what the opposition and russia wanted to hear mo, most likely mosque or no one else was no one's really expecting anything else. from that, tracy said, accused of the west and america financing acquisition movements in russia,

apparently an american bidding one to overthrow his regime and said that america considered him and present a rush as men and us. i mean both sides of packed. we came down to that they are kind of random is but there's a mutual designer to avoid a direct crash and direct direct military clash anywhere in, in the middle east in syria and the blacks year meant geranium or anywhere else. so yes, there is mutual interest to try to stabilize and be escalate and syria was mentioned as a place where there are russian military american, military. but the escalation regime, i've been working for several years rather successful that way. they're not

shooting at each other. and that's really good enough right now. can set should be escalation regime re, we'd be established by this summit. right now we're going to have just working groups. well, how well those are working groups work this thing out. we right now, i don't know for sure, but it's going to be quite an uphill job. theresa, the president, though, president biden. as he left, he did say this, we will respond if russia doesn't do what we want on cyber on human rights and the rest of it, but respond how, you know, that's the bit. that's a little bit unclear what approaches biden actually going to take with putting going forward. i think it was wise for president. i did not say that. out loud in front of the journalist. i think that he probably had this conversation with putin and it's better to keep that quiet because he saw the experience of drawing red lines under the obama administration. so i think it was actually a wise choice. we don't knowing everything that they said behind closed doors,

but i think that they had an exchange on a gun. one area that there was agreement on was the restoring, if a bachelor, so does the return from bassett or signal a sort of restoration of relations or was it just the easiest thing to agree on at this point? that's probably one of the easier things show good faith, but also an effort to keep diplomacy alive. and also this would come to one of the area with a mutual interest to have a diplomatic presence. but i would agree that the, the main area of conflicts which is tearing away at relation to the issue of human rights simply because is non negotiable for both sides or the u. s. a. well, we are going to go, she was going to table and for russia, it's also unacceptable that human rights is treated as monic norm. something to promote sovereign inequality simply because its rules which are applied only to one side, which is why i put in push this idea. the us does not have a clean slate itself. and it's very critical of this idea that under human rights

to the us can interfere and rush out all the way around us can public governments as the credit card lucian's, that can invade countries by calling it the communitarian interventionism and effectively exempt itself from international law. so this is why we're the really the way the russians are pushing back against this values that the united states pushing simply think your court suggest either has to be work in under the construct of sovereign equality, which is initially what otherwise it has to be scrapped from international security of this course, because except the way minus pushing it now. so this is really the area where most conflicts will come and that it's possible to protect that punishment against each other if you should. what the rules area for corporation, even though there is a mutual interest terrorism. what about the issue with china? you mentioned this at the beginning of the program on china. a president biden said this. russia isn't a very, very difficult spot right now. they are being squeezed by china. what do you think he meant by that statement?

was he trying to exploit the current sort of russian discomfort with china and pull russia more towards the west or what's going on there? well, military strategist, they cannot fight 2 front war just cannot fight a 2 front war. so most people think that they have to either pull russia back into the us orbit or china and russia, china, and text us. it will be impossible to fight a true front work. so i think that this is kind of the usual thinking, but i think rather it's not the soviet union, the economy, it's the size of italy, it's much smaller. but as we know, some analysts sometimes, you know, they're, they're superpower is to upsize the liberal international order. so i think and to, to disrupt. so i think that i think by having kind of put up a test balloon to see how china, how russia would respond to this. because let's face it, they are a junior partner to china, chinese academy, a huge. and as they corporate more and more, i mean it,

china doesn't have any allies. that's their narrative. but it's kind of a front of me is type of alliance. and i think that russia and china actually have a lot of common cause. the that they don't like the us together and they work together closely in the united nation. so it was a way, i think, for providing to test the waters and put in fields because at the end of the day, you know, they, russia and china have a massive border. they have a lot of issues between them. and we've seen their past history, how things worked. so i think it was just kind of a test like, you know, things how pretend would feel about that problem. how do you think we felt about that and to what extent do you think the us administration is trying to refrain from policies that dr. russia and china closer together, was not only the u. s. administration. and now is the fact that there western nations west and math when the western ministers and leaders had been constantly prompting russia explaining to the russians past, we did refuse to understand the child is

a huge threat for them potentially. and russia ship kind of begin moving away a bit from china, not getting too close. we golf by china. that's really not working right now at all. russia, china relations are getting even stronger and stronger. and just several we, couple of weeks ago it was announced that russia is transferring all the dollars and sovereign fund. and that's well, quite a lot of 1000000000, tens of millions of dollars into chinese currency, partially into europe, but the out of dollars. so russia is kind of putting the money there, and most likely this conversion of, of these, of this fund. i mean, the central bank will continue to have dollars, and russian exports bring 80 percent of the exports is paid in dollars. so converting it into a chinese young is not very prudent, a business operation,

right. but with all of that, because he's doing this because he wants to are because he needs to and specifically after the american and european sanctions that were imposed on russia for the annexation of crimea. this is a fear that they'll be further sanctions. and there may be confrontation in europe, may be so severe that russia will be russian sovereign government funds may be frozen in western banks, especially in american banks since they are in treasury. and that can be frozen. and you lying or gold in walls and moscow cannot be frozen. so there's, and there's a problem. there's no rush in the finance. institutions are preparing that may be a swift won't be working for russia. there's a rush is actually bracing for a possible downturn, as, as very tractor traffic down there. and this may happen this summer was about maybe

preventing that. but that's seen as a serious possibility. i mean, that big money and big money losses, right? russia is not mobile right now away from john and at all. okay, glenn, what do you think about the, the china issue? i mean, the, some reports seem to suggest that the u. s. is taking to sort of, quote, unquote, normalize relations with russia. mainly because of china, do you agree with that? well, the united states open about to decide to travel, which between china and russia, has to be points out that the russian are only given up. the goal is to create the effective date great through europe, the china has now become its name and most important part, right? terms of creating a new economic infrastructure, encompassing everything from autonomous to technology in transportation for those banking and across the board. and obviously the, the sanctions against russia has increased or intensified this development to great

extent. but this, i think it's open the saturated concerns that brought us about china. look so far, china has been pretty much in the deal for russia. this idea that his tears being the junior brother think that's also saturated because the russian doesn't really have any edge him on the conditions across the ration space shuttle. and also when china into a lot of these regions, such as central asia, is always cautious to turn to harmonize the interest with russia. and this is very much a contrast with the european americans often always tried to peel away in russia neighbor, so again, ukraine, georgia. i'm also about the central nations turkey network. every country has to be filled away from russia. so the chinese are really pushing this strategy, which is why russia, he's not really uncomfortable with being that smaller economies to all right, we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much to my guess theresa fallon, problem fall going, how're and glen dees. and thanks for joining us. thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com for the

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