for the anti immigrant sentiment divided over immigration, italy will rely then on mothers like sahara to choose to have multiple children. a choice many italian women are unwilling to make. adarine al jazeera rome, the renowned and controversial graffiti his banks. he is making headlines again, but this time it's not for art he's created, but for losing the rights to claim some of his work. the anonymous artist last rights to 4 of his most famous pieces in a legal battle with a postcard maker who uses the images for profits. the european union intellectual property office says his work can't be protected if he doesn't identify himself. ah, updating it up stories here on alex's era. exactly half past the votes being counted in armenia, snap parliamentary election, early indication, show the care. take

a prime minister. nicole passion yawns. ruling party is in the deed lashania, and had called the snap pulled back in april. after last year's defeats in the war with as a by john, iran's only nuclear power plant has gone into an emergency shut down for the 1st time, not fear yet what caused it, the head of the state energy companies. as the planted bashir may not be operational for up to 4 days. how about all it has been announced in the news? and you might have heard to the nuclear share of power has been subject to an emergency shut down, which will last for 3 to 4 days. it was shut down yesterday when you lose a 1000 megawatts of your plans capacity. the likelihood of blackouts will rise. some progress has been made in the talks to revive the iran nuclear deal in vienna . but both iran and the usa. there are still some sticking points. negotiations will resume in 10 days time. what i would say is that there is still a fair distance to travel on some of the key issues, including on sanctions and the nuclear commitments that iran has to make. but the

arrow has been pointed in the right direction in terms of the work that's getting done in vienna. so we will see if the iranian negotiators come to the next round of talks prepared to make the hard choices that they have to make. in order for the joint comprehensive plan of action, the iran nuclear deal to be reinstated, exit polls in france are suggesting the far right has performed worse than was expected in sunday's regional elections. the president emanuel macro centrist party, also pulled badly, but it appears the center right, has made some gains. libby is national unity. government has announced the partial reopening of a road that links the east and the west of the country. it was one of the conditions of a cease fire agreement, signed between warring size and october, forces loyal to the warlords, holly for half a say they went consulted, and they get to approve the decision. you are right up to date with all the top headlining stories up next to you, and i'll just here is the stream. i'll have 30 minutes. we'll use in 30 minutes. i'll see that something was going to change. anything really change this is the dam,

make violence that needs to be addressed at its core. we are in a way against the variance know what to say. so we are all saying we're looking at the world as it is right now, not the world. we like it to be. the devil is always going to be in the details. the bottom line on i'll just around the i me. ok, welcome to the stream. today we're going to be joined by the right tab mazda get stay. we will be talking about how writing her journey through the literary well add her claim to novel and came mother. nice to see you. welcome back to the laser surgery. thank you so much. i wonder how great once they feel to have someone to hold your book as of right. so what's that like inside? i still can't get used to it. i can't help it. i start smiling every time every

time i see it's been an incredible journey with this book. it has been years of work and it's come to this point that i never, never thought possible. i had no idea of me. you would be there holding my book on television, who would have thought. so this is fantastic. was that when i describe your discussion as a writer and i left it at that, i'm looking at you in to grand page right here. and he says, he writes many words, shoot mainly film. how would you like to describe yourself? because people love to put labels on writers. i love the showing was on the labels on them. if you were writing your own description, what would you tell our audience about yeah, good research with that. by the way. i, i'm a writer. i'm a novelist, i'm an essayist. i am someone with

a very deep appreciation for the art and history of photography. i love to make my own photographs and like my short bio and instagram says, i use of old film camera. i use black and white film. but my bio, i don't know if it would have photographer on there. and this is a discussion i've had with, with a few people because i understand the level of work that goes into calling yourself a photographer. it's not just simply pretty pictures. there's a philosophy. there are concepts behind this work the same way that i feel comfortable calling myself a writer because i understand the philosophies that guide my work with photography and learning. but i have a very deep respect and maybe too much respect for, for, for other photographers. i know the work that they do. one day i would like to get there, but right now i am

a deep appreciator and the practice or so much right now we live on youtube, which means that are you cheaper? i can ask you questions. i am curious as to when you described yourself, you did decide your nationality. i wonder why not why i knew she is going to be really mad with you right now. you talk to mother about her writing her work. the shadow came about frequent writing and stories that they have to tell really you have her, you have a for the next 20 minutes or so. let me get started with the shadow king. so anyone who have been ready, who doesn't know the story, just briefly tell us what it's about. well, the novel is said in 1935 during mussolini invasion of the t o. p. as in an attempt to colonize it, it tells the story of this war from both sides of the battlefield. the italians as

well as the p, o. p and but my main characters are women, women who fought in the war. and i center my attention on an orphan named he route. and the person that she works with works for us there who is a noble woman. and i look at war through the lens of someone who is very poor, who's only role in society is supposed to be as a maid or a servant. but who feels like she was born to be something else beyond what society has made of her. and i also talk about this through us. there has been noble woman who has had supposedly all the privileges of a high social standing in ethiopia. and yet she also has felt constricted by her role as a woman in society. mina ramen has read the shadow king. this is what

she told us about the earlier listen. i listened to the audio version of the shattered king, and i thought he was an absorbing and fascinating read. especially when i learned that it was based around true events that you was able to hold up an invasion by italian force led by you seeing on the be one of the strongest armies in the world at the time. i also heard from where that is saying that you spent 10 years fighting this novel and i wonder how much of that time was spent white in the novel versus researching be events, but just grace. oh, that is a really good question. me now. my research on this war started immediately and those early parts of 1935. so i was doing both research and writing this story, but something happened about the 5 year mark when i,

i thought i was finished. i had done so much research that i knew this history. i had finished the book. it was, i think it was almost a 1000 pages at that point. it was 890 or 900 something pages. but it wasn't the story that i wanted to write. i realized i was telling a historical story as opposed to a story of human beings. and part of the reason the book took so long was that after 5 years, i threw away that manuscript and started again from page one and rewrote the entire book centering women, centering heated. and the book took another, took another 5 years. i did not think that would happen. i thought i could get this done and maybe a year. and that wasn't the case any because he has a desire to write is going to be shot that you scratch your book and you started again,

let me share with people. again, the approach that you went through to make sure that the references in your book was accurate as she possibly could make them. and i'm going to recommend you, can you read this article that take the work behind a war novel? you talk about women, you talk about war and to be she read the book, is putting those 2 things together. the idea that you don't shy away since silence . here is one of the many things that the novel does brilliantly if to engage with the violence. this is central to the purpose of the novel because they are now not just about the video ball, but also any anti imperial struggle. it engages more formally at the level of nations and peoples classes,

but also navigate the bottom that men do to men that men do to them and limited to them. and so my question is does, when he's talking writing this now, and while you're engaged in writing it, to what extent were you aware of the need to engage with violence and on the chief with all of these contradictions to at times. and how did he go? thank you so much for that. i mean, i think we understand war, at least my sense of it is that we witness more through films. we see war through photographs that come from areas of conflict. and those are either images that have been sanitized and made to look good for the cinema, or they have been flattened and made still for photographs to be printed in

newspapers or magazines. and i, i wanted to create a movement of a violence to create this, this sense of war that affects everyone, not just soldiers, but civilians as well. because this is the reality that when force meets force, it creates devastations beyond what we can ever imagine. and i am speaking this right now as an ethiopian, when we are witnessing conflict in our country, that is heartbreaking. it is absolutely devastating the humanitarian consequences of political and ideological disagreements. they are devastating generations. it's not clean, it's not need. it does not happen between 2 men who have weapons and point at each

other under fair circumstances. and i wanted to understand the true brutalities of this, that impact generations can a country truly healed from this? and what happens when the country has had one loss, one war, one conflict after another, where does the trauma goal? and how do we begin to speak of this so that we can speak together through this divide? and i wanted to think about this in my novel, 935, but writing it also is an american who witness the african and iraq wars, who witness the devastations, the way that we're still dealing with this. now guantanamo prison is not closed yet . what does it do to us, to witness this? can language bear, the weight of all these violent acts? i wasn't sure, but i wanted to try. i wanted to see if there was a way that i could put into language,

but many layers of devastations that happened in conflict. and i think that the language, the in which i wrote, i needed to be something special to, to understand all the complexities of war. thank you for that question. mother, i was just scrolling for your tweet to see if there was any hint of what was happening in your extra home of the feel in your thoughts as you will and social. and i found this and maybe i'm reading a lot into it. my country, ethiopia, i feel that you pool your, your pain into that very short sentence about what is happening for you. back home . your 2 books, both talk about war and e. c o, p a. but during different times, is that something that is will continue to be seen in you as an if you continue

always think somewhere about conflict. you know, i, i was that really, roger, i wasn't money. i'm like really, i guess the most ridiculous question, my life here, i'm waiting on me. let me tell you this because this is what happens. this war 1930 high has shaped my understanding of what it means to be easier in the fact that we beat italians. you know, this a highly equipped, aggressive, and brutal military. we beat them. so if you can imagine as a young girl coming to america, immigrant, black, african, it's in a place that didn't understand her where i was often ridiculed, and you know, i was bullied. and i had this history to fall back on. because when americans are

telling me that i don't belong or that i am nothing, i can say i'm african and i have a history much longer than, than you have. what do you have? so more has shaped my sense of, of who i am. and i came to the united states because there was a revolution in my country. and here's another conflict that has shaped to me. and the reason i laugh is that i think that he opens, i'm not unique. we are, we've been shaped by the conflicts that have made this country by the conquest that have been broadened and developed. it's borders. we are, we have been shaped by this. you can, i can go to a baby shower and i can go to a wedding and you know, very soon somebody is going to say, we beat those italians and you know, and then go home and we'll have

a joke. but it's not, we've been anything, i appreciate the laughter because on the continent of africa, ethiopians is very proud that say that the colonial is i didn't hang out if you have a very long as you're packing. there's always tight about what you did in packing back in the piece. let me, let me talk about you put in a different way. this is miss sony. and she's wondering if the way that you, that you wrangle history is helpful for how we understand it. now he's miss and i want to start by thanking you for writing these 2 brilliant books that i have read and completely loved. i think the shadow king is an exceptional story to an exceptional retailer of history. and i absolutely love the way you have on it is we may not war you have given them

a voice you have given their audience. you have given them a platform for their stories to be hard and to be remembered. i wanted to ask, how do you think the shadow king has influenced or has shaped the way in which if you can any talent now, remember the 1935 to 1941 occupation? that's good. thank you. i. i realized, well 1st let me speak from the italian aspect of this. this is not something that was taught and readily spoken of in italy. this is a history that most italians don't know unless they have actively thought it. when the soldiers came back from ethiopia, when they came back from east africa, a friend of mine who's in the tie and told me in her family when her relatives came back. nobody spoke of it. she said it is, was a wall, is

a wall in in our family. no one speaks of it now. so the book, my book will be published in the spring of 2021 in italy. i'm very interested to see the conversations that happen, but it's not, it's not something that is readily spoken of, but there are other writers in italy, italians who are working and who have written on this history job i should go is another, is one of them. gabriella. good monday is another one. by friday, alarm is another one, and they they're working on this history. so i'm joy being a group of, ironically, women who are doing this on the east side. i think that everyone knew the history of the victory. but i am not sure how many people really understood the daily realities of living under occupation, living under a war, the daily occurrences,

interactions between the italians and east africans, but also libyans who came into east africa as us goody. i don't know how detailed that information, how that detailed information was available in ethiopia. i really had to do research to find out. i also realize the villagers kept their own histories alive by repeating the stories of what happened in their specific areas and their regions . but those stories did not often get out to the masses to become history. mother, we basically have a book club happening on youtube right now. and there is so many questions i am getting by the questions at you, and you are going to my office back that we don't know if we got people. are you ready? i'm ready. not 9 of judah. i love this mother. do you think women are still in the

shadow political power in modern ethiopian politics? i think, you know, i think 80 open women have been present in politics for a very long time. we can think of impressed i to lead leading men to war in the 1st conflict with italy and personnel. the true we have had women in positions of power . but my concern has been those people who are born in poor families. they were born to different groups of, of different ethnicities, different regions, and ignored because of who they were. how have we, how have we paid attention to them? how have we given them support, how have we empowered them? and my concern is with those women, particularly who don't always have the means to be noticed and to be heard. and

this is the speed round that we have. hundreds of people in the sorry, yeah. alright. and the next one to marvin moment is waiting. think drove those women like for their country, even when they would still face with being subsequent. it subjugated to the harshness of the patriarchy in ethiopia. very fast, quit the very fast answer is based on war as an opportunity to change their station in life, they were fighting not just for the countries for themselves as well. so ronnie, thank you for your courage and determination to tell the story. how do you prevent fax, date events and violence from overcoming your voice? revision? i mean that's, it's just, this is what we do. is writers, everything happens and revision, write it all down and then revise. christ fine. how do you deal

with criticisms of focusing on conflicts a century ago instead of more current ones being that the role of women is so much different now? oh, i don't know if the role of women is so much different and i don't know if there has been no i don't know about criticisms about writing from the past. the past helps us understand the present. and as far as right, if you're not writing about this very moment, you're writing the past. so i writers do that. we need time and reflection on what has happened in the past. there is a quote from the shadow king, which is about the battlefield. i'm going to share that without wouldn't. and just give you a moment, martha, your favorite bit of the book at a time, you know, even a page like a little snippet of a page. you've got time to find that while i read a little bit that we love us. okay, so this is about women being it being

a battlefield on their forties as well as actually going to war. she's a soldier trapped inside the barbed wire. thanks. but she still wore at the battle field is her own body, and perhaps she has come to realize as a prisoner, that is where it has always been so beautiful. can you imagine how much better the show is? good again, now the mothers meeting are over. i little sniffing. what do you keep your head a little bit? this is when here it is at the barbed wire fence. she just not changed her breathing or stiffened her body or fiddle ale helplessly. when that same are going to yanks, open the gate and bins into her face and shouts her name until it is a hard and painful blast in her ear. instead, she looked up at his face, bloated with futile anger, and call me wait for whatever comes next. because this is one thing that neither

the norfolk shirley nor the stupid soul datto staring at her with a gaping mouth never will ever know that she is here. rude daughter, a fast ceiling gate, a feared guard of the shadow king, and she is no longer afraid of what men can do to women like her. thank you. if people don't go get the book now, they never again get the book. this is on any. she's missed an english professor and she has a final question for you. why any, go ahead. african women. i reclaiming the place in history, throughly, tricia sentence, women as principal in historical narrative. it's important to know that lisa be far cry from another like actually be seen from the pot, where we mentioned to be generally oblivious about the changes they can crease around them. so they, what we have seen in historical fiction,

written by african women, female cognitive, who are deeply aware of the forces sheet in the world and the impact of via on action on this forces. absolutely, absolutely. we have now, molly said pell patina got by to see done. got him by we have jennifer mccomb. b, there's a line of women writing who are centering women. i think it is partly for the fact that we know that we have been there and we have always been there. and these stories have not been a shifting of any lens, but really just cleaning it off so that we can see what's actually been there. all along much of what's really obvious from the way you choose to share your thoughts. your word should work is that you inspire a lot of people. let me show you what martha did it a few hours ago. she said, hey,

i'm going to be on the stream. how would you answer this question? this is the question that we asked about black and african work is how are they right working to reclaim then narrative. and the response goes on and on and on. i know what i got from this was that people who are already doing it, they didn't need permission. they didn't actually need inspiration. but this one from none of it's really nice. a funny all is the time that you came to syracuse and you helped me be part of my art sir. you were like you could just say your parents, a guy man, which i was been chloe a week about for some reason. and. and i say something to me just being myself was ok, you inspire people. thank you for being on the stream today. my for me, thank you so much family of the show. you all. thank you to everyone who joined in . thank you. it's been a pleasure chatting to you. thank you very much. thank you. up the streams look nor

see you next time. thanks for watching everybody. bye for now. me. ah, ah. ah. their world is into the murky world of state sponsored spyware. and the discovery by al jazeera journalists, 06 technology. smartphone systems. is this the new frontier, espionage think about the sophistication of exploits to breaking the phone. this is as soon as i get your phone on,

i'll just go to the from one is a home will come up was what dreams were made. it turned into a nightmare of a rest and told you, but i didn't seem as little for johnson. footballing legend, eric kent introduces cloud. your temporary one of the special few stood up for their beliefs. whatever that cost. football rebels on al jazeera, the field 2 months ago, derek shelving was found guilty of killing george roy. now he will be sentenced and could face up to 30 years behind bars. join us on june the 25th for live coverage. as this historic us court case. reaches its conclusion, derek show the sentences on al jazeera, me be the hero,

the world needs right now. i was i me the. ready i mean is kind of thing continues with early result showing the prime minister nicole passion young in the li. i hello welcome. i piece adobe. you're watching your life from also coming up an emergency shut down as iran only nuclear power plant could last days. and course electricity cuts across several cities. millions of pins will cost the balance on monday.