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ah, when was the last time that you saw visibly muslim targets are either on film on a tv show. and depending on where in the world you live, it might take you quite some time to come up with that also. there are almost 2000000000 muslims in the well, but you wouldn't know it from watching hollywood productions. so today on the stream we are looking at what would it take to boost muslim representation in film? let me give you an example. let me introduce you to nadia.

20 to 30 years old isis paris to see where head scarf and haven't really drought we can keep playing the stereotype. but hollywood love stereotype. yeah. and it's wrong. you're in the wrong business. if you're going to get all right, you know, lucas, it's happening in our country right now. you know, like, it is crazy out here. i'm leaving. what are you? i think she just that me who if characters like nadia a part of the problem what's the solution you're about to meet 3 guests who have the idea is a concrete and devil hello to ca sheaf hello so odd and hello janice are nice to

have you on the street car, she can introduce yourself to international audience. tell them what you do and who you are. of course, thank you so much for having me. my name is kasha shake and the co founder and the president of the pillars fund to to have you through our welcome back to the stream . lovely to see you again. remind our audience who you are and what you do. great day. you too. i'm a scholar, artist, an activist. i run samples where and i watch way too much tv. well, you very handy for us today. thank you so much. and is it jenna more? is it nadia or is a l. who can tell the creator of that little web theory that we sent you a little table? we're going to have so much more about the agenda. welcome to the street. tell everybody. see you on what you do. thank you so much. hello, i am jenna mahoney, boscoe. i'm a writer actress and a filmmaker and my tv comedy pilot lady liberty was just selected for the pillars fund and the black with listen list. so i'm really excited to be here and to be

talking about my favorite thing. tv and home. all right, very good and audience. i know you love tv because you're watching right now. if you have a comment or question for a for i guess about representation of muslims in phil, have you got comment section is waiting for you to be part of today's show cautious . i have to start with you because your organization came up with a study to really track in the u. s. u. k, australia, new zealand. major films, big, big, big films, representation of muslims. and the results were expected, but still shocking. tell us more. yeah, it was, it was definitely expected. so we did this research project with the ford foundation and the annenberg inclusion center at the university of southern california. and the actor resentment, and really the purpose of the study was because there was no real data on what representation and muslims looked like on film and television. and while we expected the results to not be good,

i think we were still really dismayed. and in some facets, really shocked by what we saw the we expected that the representation of muslims on film and television would be a bit more. but we didn't expect it to be as completely erase and the, the nuance than the diversity of muslims to be completely erased from popular culture. so i think that for us, it was a really, it was, it was a really difficult thing to see because once a result started to come out, we really started to understand why and how these attitudes towards muslims around the world we're starting to shape. because as we know, popular culture of film and television don't just confirm biases and sometimes they create viruses. and so this data was really, really instrumental for, to recognize and also the data was important for us to then show hollywood and say, there is a real problem here. we need to change this. and the numbers absolutely confirm it . i think it kind of really confirmed a lot of muslims knew, growing up,

which was representation, has always been really terrible of muslims. but now with the hard data in front of us, we could actually start to move hollywood studios, film studio, and someone like resentment who is put his star power behind there. i think were incredibly excited about what could come. but the results were definitely incredibly disheartening. so i picked up. yeah, i mean, i think it's funny, it's like, i was a little less surprised. it's kind of like water the way you know, the news know and especially, you know, as a black person, you know, go backwards in general. right. i know hollywood rock, right we're, we're never there in our complexity and as of last month on the same thing. right. and i think, you know, like you said abysmal right from off of in general and even more so for them to are africans is that right? i think we see muslim black muslims, sometimes they show up right in the hollywood film, sometimes like trader those kind of films. right. where they're kind of a bit of

a terrorist. but we're not really sure. or they'll be like in black film or black media and they'll be the kind of, you know, kind of militant person, right? kind of like that type of thing, but not, but not the full range, right? not folks from all parts of the country, all parts of the world end up in the us who are black. so i was pretty like, yeah, again, was that word what, you know, but you know, one of the things we know we need, you know, the data, right? because why folks are going to be like, but what about this? i thought this one thing one time ago. oh your tell janet you already knew this because you are making comedy. i was the lack of representation. not a lack reputation, but the terrible stereotype in tribes. yeah, absolutely. i mean, i, i didn't speak on behalf of be in my artist community, or like to tell us something we don't know. you know, it's, it's disheartening to see the, the facts and figures. i mean, we knew we know they're terrible because we read, we read tricks all the time,

the edition all the time. we know. but also i'm very hopeful i'm hopeful because of my community. i'm hopeful because we are creating so many incredible new stories and authentic storytelling is really what i'm passionate about and what hollywood seems to have kept him to now. and yeah, i mean, there is, there are so many more stories and more communities that we need to tap into, especially within muslims, in general. i mean, it's a massive community and we were just, we haven't even scratched the surface yet. partially, there was one stop that really brought home why representation is so important. how many, how many kids shows have muslim representation in the muslim in them or an animation with a muslim in the, in the whole of north america. how many kid shows that would be 0. what?

none, no, none. that's outrageous. i would have said there's probably one maybe on i don't know that to me. street or whatever, but none not. no. i think that you're right there. there was a lot that came out of this study that was disheartening and that we sort of knew. but when you have something like that, we've seen the importance of telling of animation and kid television shows in sort of helping shape children. i have nieces and nephews and i've watched mo, honor about like a 1000 times point, you know, and, and, and so you can see the important that these depictions have on the psyche of children and the fact that there were absolutely none was incredibly disheartening . it's also really scary and i think that those types of the testing i think were really important to pull out from the study to be able to then hold for because i think you're right is that i would have, i wouldn't have get 0. yeah. but the fact that it is 0, we have a real,

real big problem. so, you know, yes, so as you go 1st and then i will make, i'll make wait for you to finish. what is the point? you know, it's interesting how we think of time. things get better, you know, as you go forward back, i've been to the archives recently, and there was an episode of the show that used to be on the cartoon network called the proud family. and there was the most presentation in that, this is probably in the ninety's or something like that. but i think the point here is that it wasn't great, but it was full a problem, right? so i think we want to, so now it's like, ok, so they were 0, we want more than 0. well, we don't want something that's just going to, you know, create like in this one. it was like the girl or a scarf and those wrong on everyone's like why is she doing that, isn't she? isn't she hungry? you know where it wasn't really helping hash tag, not even water. that's an in joke that i'm not going to explain to anybody. he's not muslim. alright, here on my laptop, read ahmed. the importance of representation. if you're a kid,

you want to see another muslim, tied to listen characters in your kid shows. this is what he had to say about data and the survey. the know couple of things do you stand out to me, surprise, the one was that was totally absent from animation. there were no, with the characters in any of these talk to you on the films. i love animations. and i really impacted kids and how they see themselves and when they're rented, invisible and all of luke characters, the obstacle, they face all at home with family problems. a lot of the time, rather than see what some characters are trying to save world one say, what is anyone else know a couple of things. one of the things that people are doing within the industry is actually creating their own art. if the problem are the gatekeepers, then how do you get around the gatekeepers? what did you do? jetta?

well, i mean, i'm a writer and a creator because i started out an actor and i very quickly realized, oh gosh, it's rough here. i mean, especially for people of color. i mean, the breakdowns were getting or so and i can speak muslim breakdown for characters or just as soon as i met spoke about, you know, one dimensional lack nuance, depth. and just don't feel like human beings. and we're all human beings here, right? so it leave you feeling kind of got it and feeling like, well, i'm an artist and i have a story to tell. and i think to say, well how can i do that? i really think, you know, we need the opportunities that, you know, the gatekeepers. it's difficult because the hierarchy go, it becomes a really how budget is space of, let's say, that white men. and, and, you know, if we talk about authentic storytelling, i think it's really, really important that the videos that producers, they trust,

the trust our teeth and they trust our ability to tell our own story. we know our community, we know our families are friends. we know ourselves, and we know that there's an audience for the story. so if they're smart, you know, they'll make money if they just trust. and that's really, you know, what have that on screen is not enough. it needs to go way path, but i need to go, there needs to be way more producers, studio executive production companies and writers in the writers room. because once it's already on the actors, you know, hand ready to addition, it's too late. the problematic story has already been written and what we've seen is they're often riddled with orientalist, really problematic awful portrayals of muslims which are just not even true. and quite frankly, we're sick of it and it's not welcome anymore. and i, i want to add to that, like, i think the myth here too is that there is no audience for this. that's, i think one of the biggest lies that we've been told that there is no audio type of

content. there absolutely is an audience for this type of content. people are actually very hungry for this content. and i think that there are absolutely opportunities to support artist and support created and exactly that to support them, not just in front of the screen, but the support them behind the screen because that's how change actually happens. and so i really, i really think that that's how they've been able to hold. sure. so many part of down there, your work is just not, you know, white audiences just don't care about it, right? i want bringing one more voice. if i, if i may get one another voice, this is a mom and she's talking about this new way of working around the gatekeepers and how that is needed have listened to her and then i'll ask you more about that. so let me think about obstacles and barriers for muslim filmmakers in the industry . it really is about getting into the door. we have so many stories to tell with such strong background and authentic real stories. but giving me the opportunity to

get into that door to direct, to write, to produce has been the biggest challenge in the industry. and so these initiatives that they've been having to bring in more muslim filmmakers more produce or more writers has been really, really great. and getting the most, some story out there, and we kit good discount independent filmmakers, because still makers have to get there start from somewhere. and as muslim filmmakers, it's very strong and independent field to where we are telling our own story on our own terms and being supported by our communities. yeah, you know, i think it's fat. you know, i'm reminded of the film, jerry maguire, show me the money. and that's kind of part of what i think about this too. right. so this is idea that hollywood, like, like they said, you know, the stories are there, the audience is there. right. but you can't get greenwood and this is what needs to happen. and so really the invitation now for people in the hollywood for the white men, hollywood. right to sort of become accomplices and show us the money. put money behind,

right. the support, the kind of work that it's already there. right? because because one of the things that we're going to do, what we do, we're going to do anyway, like jenna, she's already doing it right. well, like she said, you can be a part of it, like you don't have to give up on you can be a part of that. right. and so that's the opportunity, right. and i think, i think there's, i think when we see like people of color sort of doing their own things. right. so like if a renee right him but he ends on so you people doing different types of things. right. just push stuff forward, but i think there's a responsibility we really have to sort of come go to the white men and say, hey, you know, the time is now put, put the, put your money where your mouth is. i have to have to bring up this question from some youtube business from maya. i'm going to put this one to you. jenna representation is needed, but we shouldn't do at the expense of islamic values. i wish we could see or thank moving characters, human and who actually enjoy being with them. i know this question gyla you.

i mean, of course, of course we want to see humans. we want to see a variety of stories, right? i mean, people are complex and different, right? i mean, we want to, we want to see that too. i don't, i think we have to differentiate between like, when we say we want to authentic storytelling like, yeah, i want, i want to of religious muslim person to, to tell us story beautifully. i will watch it if the characters are real and authentic and fully fleshed out, i mean, but i think we also have to be careful. this is a massive community, right. and we all have varying degrees. different. we come from different experiences. there is no one way to be a muslim, i mean, and i think the media, us the media, if you watch too much or how you believing that there is that there's like one look . and i'll give you an example like something i'm often told by white talking directors and people in the media i've, i've often almost lost job by thing. you don't look middle eastern and enough and

i'm like personal. i don't know what the term lease term, but i won't get into that. but what does that mean? and just like doctor was saying, we have black muslims, we have a muslims from south asia from north africa for, i mean, it's such a big community. so we can't, we can't really prescribe one experience to every, to all of those billions of people. right. so i think it's more about supporting creators. i have been there. yeah, of course. of course they have to want to think i'm going to respond to that too. cuz i think, you know, part of it is a lot of pressure, right? because you don't get a lot of stuff. and so people want the one thing to do everything, you know, like for example, i really enjoyed the film that came out one night in miami, which had to most characteristically no one, no toilet read it. yes. all right, but not enough for me here, but just the idea that i felt i, i enjoyed the movie and i enjoyed the fact that we saw personal by the both of the people who are like be moving large figures right. but there were other,

there were like, wait a minute, knock over it and do how about they wouldn't do that, right? because it's all the pressure. but really what we need is we need like what, why people have 25 different people and 20 different different time and 20 different places doing different thing the enemy we need all of that. i think that's the answer. to have to show us the blue point, the blueprints and listen inclusion recommendations for film industry professionals . so cause if not only did your organization come out with, these are the staff, they are terrible. but this is what we can do about it. i feel like this is, is more important than knowing how bad the representation is, the blueprint, what is in the blueprint, what an easy to follow. ways to solve the representation issue of muslims in film. yeah, well i mean, i think it's really important to recognize that we didn't, we knew that the data was going to be really bad. we needed to make sure that there was some action attached to it. and there are some recommendations and sort of the

high level recommendations which we're working with duty to talk about as like the 1st one is this idea around like terror tropes, the data around how muslims were associated with violence was obviously incredibly high. and so the idea that we're really pushing forward is for studios to sunset, terror tropes. i think that's an easy way to start to really diversify and change the way the muslims are being represented on screen. and in particularly in the way that they're being very harmful, these representations are incredibly harmful. so we're asking studios and we're working with 30 at the sunset, those tear tropes. i think that's incredibly important. the 2nd thing is, is dr. saladas that it's really, really important for lots of muslims to be able to be on, be able to tell their story, being hollywood. and so we're working with studios to get deals like 1st look, deals with muslim creative. that's critical. that's absolutely critical. and it's important because it allows a diverse community to tell an array of different stories,

like to go back to that last question. we'd sort of completely believe there's no one way to be muslim. there is no sort of one authentic way to be muslim, but we do believe in the diversity and the complexity of the muslim identity and being able to talk about being with them is really, really important. and so we're really working with, with these studios to be able to actually try to implement some of these changes. and then the last part about all of that. but i think is really important is we announced the launching of the pillars, fellowship, the artist fellowship, which were incredibly excited about in partnership with resign. what's left handed production company that's i think, you know, going to be game changing. we are offering unrestricted funding to artist and creators to be and we're working with an array of advisors. i'm using the live there were so oh, so excited to have marshal. i have rami you serve them, marshall out seminars like you know so many. oh my goodness,

so many people all trying to really get to this gatekeeper issue, trying to basically mentor support and financially support these artists. i think that's going to be what is going to be really game changing. guess i just want to take your temperature, your mood right now for how positive you are feeling. let's start with an extra voice. interact, conversation. this is christian, he's feeling quite foolish about the way forward. have a listen. look. the inclusion initial report confirms with scholars like jack shaheen. evelyn awful tanny and may tell us on i've shown for a long time that muslims are portrayed on screen. it's usually in a negative light. however, i'm optimistic about the future of muslim storytelling on the screen. for one, we have a great independent muslim cinema. we have filmmakers like nature mean susan uses moses i eat or boss. and hark are making dynamic and beautiful profiles and muslims . we also have access to international film promoter majority countries,

places like turkey, indonesia, pakistan, streaming on netflix for western audiences to, to see 1st hand jenna. how's the mood right now about your place in the industry? yes, i mean, like i said, i choose hope, right. i choose to be hopeful, i still think we have a very long way to go. filming tv and theater, being in new york after i can say theater. i've a long way to go. but we, we, we have, you know, there's just so much to be done. i mean, and we really have to, like i said, trust muslim storytellers and creators and give them the opportunity. you know what, i personally, i, someone who was born and raised in this country, you know, in new jersey, i want to be more representations of look ones that are, that are not foreign and don't speak a different language. i mean,

those are wonderful to but i want to see more just like muslims of the part of communities and you know, their, their identity is, is, is 2nd to life what they're doing here. i want to see more of those portrayals who are how optimistic are you at this point? yeah, well, you know, i'm black and america, so i'm moving on call him. how are you feeling? oh, i'm glad we can laugh. i'm glad i wasn't done. so i mean, i've been just, but generally speaking, i think, i mean, i think that there's a lot opportunity, but it's appeal battle. and i'm really interested in seeing how we represent, like how we represent ourselves like so for example, how most from one ethnic, whatever background represents other backgrounds. because one of the things that i'd be concerned about is how we can reproduce some of the tro, right? so i feel like i'm excited for what's happening and i want to keep keep our feet to

the fire so that we keep producing stuff that's, you know, really kind of representative touch of. i've got 30 seconds to wrap up the show if you have a lot of work i had i'll just say that i don't think it's a matter of being optimistic or pessimistic amount about being determined. and i think we have the infrastructure as muslim communities in the u. s. for the 1st time to really have resources to really hold people accountable. and that's what we really plan to do is to hold these people accountable. when they say they're going to do something, make sure that they do something, and that's what kind of gives me that hope in moving forward with all of this work . thank you for joining us on the, on the screen cash f thought. and jenna, you may remember that dr. phil, i said we will white people want regarding muslim representation way i recommend to you a serious code lady hans. it is definitely diverse in so many ways we're going to play out with it because it's a new fan favorite here on the stream that's watching everybody see next time.

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