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the us church said to leave us down a star by the middle of september. but what about the afghans who assisted them during 20 years of war? the thousands of translators and interpreters have a future in america, or continue to live under the threats of the taliban inside doors. ah. hello everyone. i'm come all santa maria for nearly 2 decades. thousands of afghans have risked their lives to work with us troops in what became america's longest war

. but that war is coming to an end, at least from a us perspective and it's leaving goes. afghans feeling more and more threatened by the prospect of taliban attacks. the u. s. troop withdrawal approaches. now president joe biden says those who have helped the u. s. will not be left behind, interpreted dr. as cooks so many others. they have already been offered to apply for a special immigration visa, but approvals have been slow and recent corona virus out right at the us embassy and campbell, and they delayed things further. when he's 18000 applicants with at least 50000 family members have been waiting for their documents to be processed. a will be relocated to a 3rd country until their visa applications come through. that announcement was made by the white house on friday. we have identified a group of applicants, special immigrant, visa applicants who have served as interpreters and translators, as well as other at risk categories who have assisted us. they will be relocated to

a location outside of afghanistan before we complete our military draw down by september in order to complete the visa application process. so they will do it from another location. the additional details of that, i'm just not going be able to speak to from here. but more than a 100 form or ask an interpretive who worked with us military forces, actually protested outside the american embassy in campbell on friday. as a many have been denied visas and called on washington to get them out of the country. all the foreign rose completely withdraw from us on. and after that, if we target by all of them, if we kill it, if we get or get killed by, it's all about who's, who's responsible for us. so that's why we are, again, we are asking for justice. again, we are raising our vice. you're asking for our safety and protection. this is our eyes that we are not governmental give us visa use them because

they don't talk visa. it's clear that $100.00 person we are dying. any means david don, just want to tell us what we want to provide you. we don't want our kids to jump on. all of this is happening after president biden pledge to withdraw the troops from afghanistan by september 11. the 20th anniversary of the attacks on new york in washington dc that actually led to the war and kind of some bottom promised continued support for the nation as he met africa. and they did that. the white house recently i've got security forces are struggling with increased attacks by the taliban in recent weeks. in fact, it has taken territory in many parts of the country. recently, the taliban advance raising doubts about the sold peace talks aimed at ending afghanistan's almost 20 year. war the sellers introduce our guests for today stopping in car bull with our reserve media,

who used to be an interpreter for the us army in afghanistan in washington dc as lawrence called former assistant secretary of defense now senior fellow at the center for american progress. and also in cobble is victoria fountain, who is a professor of peace studies at the american university of afghanistan. thank you to all of you, lawrence and victoria. i hope you understand that. i'll put my 1st few questions to out there because i really want you to understand what the job entails and get a real feel for what she has done over the past. what was it 5 years or tell us about the job? tell us about how you got involved and what it and what entails. hello sir. at the 1st i would like to thank you for giving me this chance to talk about sie applications. i work for youth government for deal with the undoing projects are 5 years enough against them and to we are asking citizens who serve the mission of

dance done. unfortunately, we are now left behind and last thing, danger and dire need. i have served the and i have performed sensitive untrusted activities for us government do my employment and which is still i'm waiting for my ivy and my 5 years under on been 3 years. okay. we'll talk more about the visa status in a moment. again, i want to get a little more idea about the job. were you out on the front lines with, with, with forces where you just tell us about what you actually were doing. or as much as you can tell us what you were doing with the, with the united states. actually, sir. and these projects nor earth wrong duty and us and devil are money. duties which i, which i hot and which i perform during my employment. and the men demand responsibility for me was still dealing with the different ministries and dealing,

dealing with the different provinces and with my supervisor to the front, she had to talk later an interface or besides this i was assigned to perform as finance the finance work for the company and to, during those times i had a really good achievement for the company. and besides this, on year 2017, i was awarded coworker value from the, from this project from the united states of america. and it was, it was not easy. it was not easy for them without me to half all the shipment and i could do my job and better way for the accomplished as well done to you. one final question before i go on to our other guests and that's just, you know, you're an interpreter, but there are so many other roles out there on their, their drivers and cooks. and so many people who, you know, can be in an office or they can be on or on the front lines even it is

a lot of responsibility and a lot of risk. yeah, for sure, sir. as you know that it's not easy enough. can this on this situation, that if the people, i mean, if they ask guns to try to work with us. but we did this in a better way. it is not only for the interface, so it's for those who who, who work along side and, and stand with the americans and help them to accomplish their mission and afghan is done. and they put their life actually in dressing and right now, now they're, most of them are not secure here as we see all and use the dig, a 100 murder by the telephone and other religious people. and especially the female, as you know that the deal against this, even the female work with the look of people. but like me, i work for and i can or i may come government there. so it was not easy for us and still be feeling fear of taliban and other religious people. ok. or i'll come back

to you shortly. i want to bring lawrence called into our conversation now and just listening to receive a lawrence. it just made me think you really kind of a state, the importance of the role of the interpreter or any of these collaborators in the theater of war and to be fair, even with all the problems that are happening, the u. s. is very much saying we know the importance here and we are acknowledging it. well, there's no doubt about the fact that whatever we've accomplished militarily, we wouldn't have been able to do without these brave men and women the other as we would have had a lot more american casualties. we're not for them. so we, as a country, all of them an awful lot, and we've got to help them deal with what comes after, when the united states leaves that, that involves them wanting to come to the united states. we should make it as expeditious as possible. and it's really frustrating,

we should have been planning for this. once we started the drop down, what have we been waiting for? and the drop down actually started back in 2011 when we began cutting a number of troops that met you, needed less interpreters and less drivers and everything. we should have been trying to help those folks get to the united states if that's what they want to do . absolutely. right. kinda preempted what i was going to ask you, but i will carry on with it because yeah, it's the thing that people could be moved to to guam or to, to other goals countries in august it feels like such a rush and even then, well, who knows how long they would be in the 3rd countries while at that's, that's correct. and you know, we could do week or 10 them, for example, to guam, which is an american territory and go through the whole, you know, processing stage while we're there. but we had all kinds of, you know, inappropriate regulations. you had to work for 2 years. no,

it should be 2 minutes if you will work in the united states. and then we took us a while to give them special immigrant visas. we put them through the regular process which could take up to 5 here. so again, you know, all that i was in vietnam and i remember we didn't prepare for that one. so i gone, fell. we had all those people coming out on, on boats and stuff like that. we should have learned from that. that's bring victoria fontenot compensation. victoria thing you nodding along there, i'm sure you want to respond to what we've heard. but something i would actually like to ask you as well, almost the opposite of what lauren said lawrence pointed out that these people have been brave and almost heroes really for the united states. the taliban, i guess doesn't just do them as collaborators, probably views them as traitors. absolutely. and does anybody have issued a statement more than a month ago saying that they would not harm specifically the people who work for coordination forces and he repented. and so what does this mean and how is it going

to be carried out? and i think that it's extremely dangerous. we sure such a statement speaker at the end of the day indicates and he indicated to the local between where do you read to me that the section fair again to talk at them and that they have a crime. and so that's certainly, it's concerning a lot of people, not sure to work with the united states, but the entire coordination forces just to build on something we talked about with lawrence as well. just your thoughts on, on, on the, as i said, the rush which is happening here to get this done. and whilst the united states very much trying to say no, we're not forgetting people, we're going to do this. and we're going to do that. clearly. it's an afterthought, or looks like an afterthought. at least. absolutely. the french have already evacuated more than a 100 staff members and their families who are friends and you know, to,

to do the see. no good. what is going to happen between now and august. they are short or coalition. again hampers was dying. the last one died 6 days ago, so they are being taught and then moving them to one why exactly when they are being and they are going to expensive checks. i have a collaborator who left for the u. s embassy. you could euro for the security checks for her to be cleared to work at the end. so why, why would. ringback they be per right as and why and they have even so much they have been recruited alongside really. so that's why not go directly to united states. exactly, lawrence, just before i go back to ours, or it struck me that there's the 3rd countries involved. now, guam, which is a u. s. territory, but also the gulf states which have been mentioned as well. and then the theories that they would go to the united states, would that even be guaranteed? this was a us led war, wasn't it? it was a nato war, so are other major countries in place?

well, we should guarantee and not just them, but they are families because you can't just take out the 18 to 20000 interpreters because the taliban will go after their families. and i just suggested guam not to leave them, they are permanently so we could get them out and then begin processing their applications and make sure that when they got to the united states, there would be somebody to be able to care for them. so central to everything we've talked about is the f i v. the special immigrate visa, which i think all 3 of you have mentioned are soon tell us about that. you've applied for one, i'm sure what status is that for you now? where are you at with your application? thank you for your question, sir. after i completed the 2 years with the us government and my supervisor noticed that i'm fixing problems here. so lots of choice in my life, my life. so he gave me to come and dition and as her later so i had to flip back to

the complete package and i sent it to for assign v as well as the year 2017, which i my father and my recommendation later another decade. today and this i the email which is still my case is under review. they never asked for any documents. the last email i just received from them was just your cases under review. you have to wait for it. they can not tell us that the timeframe has always, they said there is some money off because and they cannot the last exact time that when i would get the approval. the main thing that i'm concerned about is if there's any documentation require why they're not asking. i've seen money applicants also for years years under review, their cases under review at the end of the did they get denied. been denied from the embassy. why? it's just bothering why bother, so they're going to cancel our kids or deny it, or if they need for any documentation, bishop us before our supervisor,

leave this country or we cannot get contact with them. actually, i do have contact with my supervisor. but most of the up because the have contact with the supervisor and they're not able to get the confirmation email from them, like the confirmation edition has. many of them have all the confirmation and but the still do it's under review. let me so i think it's already or if you've been waiting, i think you said 2017. you put in your application. so if you've been waiting 3 or 4 years for this, do you have any face but it will be completed in the next 2 month? i cannot, i cannot, he, that it depends on the use decision, the use governments to pick this. so you said the situation, you know, it's really critical situation right now, and no one can go into our lives there. now, if x bater and i did quiz the president by then administration,

that they should take this to us at this patricia and, and this is an emergency of a question to guam or, or to another intermediate country. because for right now, the main thing we are concerned about our security, our families, it's not just only me extract collins of applique. besides this, all of the applicants have chosen. they have families. so who is they? are this is sponsibility. can anyone get into our lives? actually we all know or can she can she does not do that and you have your witness and you guys can kind of go through social media and you can see that like lead to many do any translators and other people are getting killed day by day by the other religious people and one is the thought on take over the government. i'm sure these religious people would go to turn it on. and if did it look nice, if someone report against this, so definitely they will kill us. so before we die in this country,

i use government to take this serious lawrence, what do you think hearing, you know, a personal direct story like that from obviously i know i'm not supposed to take sides in any of this, but it just sounds it doesn't sound right at all that this has been going on. well, correct. i mean, just to hear the story should get people to galvanize center. angus can king, who is an independent but caucuses. what the democrats says, my hair is on fire. when hearing these type of things, i'm a member of the american legion, we been pressing the congress to change the laws. so these people can get it more quickly. i think the biden administration finally waking up to the, the problem because when they talked about getting out of afghanistan by, you know, the anniversary of 911. they didn't get deal with this right away. they should have been dealing with it when they knew they were leaving victoria your reaction to what you heard from our is the there, there it's it just, i mean, we know there's

a huge problem here for so many people, but it really personalized it sent me for me then hearing about what she's going to and the fear that she has as well. i've said with you. and i think that, you know, one should always remember that there is no need to be a ration and know keith and no development operation without the help of national staff and everything that we have been doing for the past 20 years has been achieved. thanks to the national staff and, and for from my perspective i see that every day i hear this every day from many different areas over and done. and i really think that the highlights are the double standards that exist between international and national stuff. and, and so far, all those double sanders on materializing that particular type of case. and i really hope that legislators and that the white house is going to wake up the lease

and, and change that situation because we're talking about the south and people. and every day what i'm doing, i could not work without national stuff. and they are really, are i really important not by victoria in researching for this discussion today, i looked at other countries which had had similar plans in place for example, the u. k. and this is what they said they would offer a priority relocation to people. and this is a court assist to be under serious threat of life. and i wonder if we could see a problem here with this us plan because if you're assessing the threat to someone's life, that can be interpreted in different ways content. and what really feels as a threat to her life. you know, the other people may not the people making the decisions may not. absolutely. and not just that, but he thinks fine was says and who assess these and how many commission and, and i think that it's extremely subjective and it should be bad. any person who

decides to work for the coordination and does, for the coordination, should be given. that's right and not go to so much truth and need because again, it is the burden of the food on the person to actually say my life in danger and why and they shouldn't have to go through that. lawrence, can you remind us what the us is saying about any prerequisites? janitta you said there was a 2 year minimum, wasn't there was something like that. well, 1st it was a 2 year minimum, then they change it to, to one year. and even that just artificial because if you've been working for 6 months or the u. s. the taliban is not going to say, oh, you didn't do it for a year, so we'll leave you alone. no, we should. or you know, people are worried. well, if you take a man, you might get a few people who don't deserve. yeah, you can make mistakes. what by and large, you're going to do the right thing and that's why, you know, get them out, get them someplace. if you don't like one, then hit out to staten island, for example, or ellis island, and then go over it to make to make sure,

but you've got to get the, i don't, that's the key thing. and it's also been complicated by the fact you've got colbert there and you know they're worried about that too. but again, what you need is the president to say less, just as i said, we're getting out of time. we're going to let those people lead and do it. some of the other countries being mentioned, lawrence cutter, bahrain, for example, here in the gulf, i mean, what, what would they have to gain? why would they want to get involved in this? well, again, for humanitarian reasons, if they, you know, and if these people feel they would rather stay in the middle east than come to, you know, our country thousands of miles away. i think they should have that option. but the fact of the matter is, their 1st option, the option they can choose should be the united states if they want to do something . now, why? but we got to let them have the option to come here with something to run down the clock. so we'll go back to our, is there a marion combo?

let's say i do that. this does happen that you get moved, even if it happens to guam or directly to the united states or wherever. what do you expect of your new life in the united states? what would, what do you want to do? thank you, sir. at the 1st, i hope and i wish that you said mr. on this, sir? yes. and do this emergency evacuation directly to the big for those who doesn't have any issue with their s ivy's. why? why this at this day for a long time and guam or, and other country. and once i get my v, i would, i would rather to work there and i would like to have, i would like my children to be able to continue the school. and i would like to continue working and surveying for the government beside this i can continue my master degree has i was not able due to security problem here in afghan this time

to continue my education. and, but i hope that one day i would be able to finish this and do you know anyone? my do you know anyone are through any of your friends or colleagues who have been successful with their immigration and they've managed to get through to the us? yeah. i do, there is like my 2 friends there, living in virginia, one of them used to work for a w b. now she got her. i think 2 years ago now she's working in that, i don't know and where, but she has a good job at the space and my another friend her, her husband used to work for the youth military. and to 8 years ago they went to the united states. they're also living in virginia. they are happy and their kids are happy, their families happy. don't feel fair from anything. so yeah,

they have good life at the air. i will are one i have now. they do ours. we all hope that this really does turn out well for you in the end. i'm sure lawrence and victoria do as well. thank you so much for your time. any florence coleman, victoria fountain, as well. thank you so much and as ever thank you for watching. there was always more online either down to the or dot com where all our previous additions live. i can catch up and then if you want facebook dot com forward slash j inside story for more discussion there. and on twitter, a show with a j inside story. i'm at come all a j e. if you want to drop me a line from the hole inside story team, thanks for joining us. we'll see you again. thing the i

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