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she is always told from the perspective of the great man, whether it's moving all robot mccardie my responsibility to tell when story in a way that it hasn't really been told before, the ordinary. everyday life was involved with the people. i'm writing about patina . got out of darkness, minds and bob way on algebra. the hey, welcome to the stream, i'm josh rushing, sitting them for me. ok. today. i want to begin for the people who watched on youtube. right now, do you see the box right over here? there is a live stream producer waiting there for you to add your comments to the shells are going to get them to me and i can ask questions. you can be a part of the program. and what a program it us today we're talking about afghanistan, i was there a few years ago to u. s. military commander told me, you know, the us military,

me on all the watches. but the taliban has all the time. and he was alluding to the fact that some everyone knew at some point the us was going to have to pull out enough chemistry. i was going to stand on a town and that the taliban would of course, challenge that well, that dates come. president binders ask all us forces to be out by the 20th anniversary of $911.00, which is just a couple of months away. so us forces are drawing down there at a time that it seems like pissed off to the taliban have stopped. and the taliban is ascendant across the country and back let me show you a map where this is from la ward journal, just tracks us and they say the talent has. deborah doubled the number of controlled ac in districts since may 1st. now and this map, the lie gray is what is now uncontested and controlled by the government of afghanistan and presumably backed by the us. the dark gray is controlled by the taliban and the red is considered contested. then you can see the taliban that

circled. cobble there in the center, they've circle the kandahar down south. they're doing their spreading throughout the rule areas. and so i thought 3 guest on today's show to talk about this and what it means for afghanistan and the people of afghanistan. i'm going to ask him to introduce himself, so i'm going to begin with shooter. i josh, thank you them. sure, jamal. i'm the head of international relations and regional cooperation at the office of the national security council here in couple. thank you. on the show. thank you for being. i know it's about midnight and i appreciate you being up tonight and with us and chagrin i did and everyone else and yes, my name is shaquira and i'm from re bastard. they're just women's and human rights activists. fantastic. thank you, sir. chris and moving on to ali. i'm the one i'm like fi, i'm

a journalist from coco. alright, fantastic. you. i want to bring a little here so 20 years on from the us invasion. they also the taliban rather quickly, but they never really knocked them out and it really put them away. it's like water, the dam holding them back over all this time. and now would you agree? does it seem from your perspective there and cobble but the taliban is indeed ascended at the moment. but let me go on the premise of your questions. it's all about. we're never really. and then the point for that there is they will not really never went away, primarily because they were not a domestic ask them on the movement they received, you recruit their ability to actually rest, recuperate medical treatment, and then come back over across our southern border from pakistan where they could also comply themselves with weapons,

which is why they've been so resilient and difficult when you're right. but the telephone have actually resorted into a policy of, of terrorism to can, you know, escalating violence after a telephone deal. instead of taking that coverage to actually announce the fire and try to meet people and people because guess what, their only reason for the fight much of the present international troops is gone. now there's no international, they're not going to, they're not the few that are remaining, you're going to be gone for months and there's not going to be any combat the presence of international. but so, but so that the surgeon is really the taliban, pressing for terrorism, an escalation against theft and also increasingly against the f. instead of choosing a policy reconciliation, which should be doing because there is a mis norrick opportunity because the domestic political environment and sometimes aligned to either of the telephone in the cold, the international environment line fever making or they take that

opportunity. why does it surprise anyone's degree? you can jump in here that, that, that the taliban might be more interested in military games and diplomatic games. at this moment i do believe fair taliban are again gaining and somehow they already got enough legitimacy and legitimacy and recognition internationally. offered to her agreement, it's not something reality that they believe depth and i do believe that taliban are just the surgeons group that they would like to take power by violence. they are at the moment. i'm not saying like they are just only relying on pakistan. i do believe other countries, especially iran and russia, somehow, china's also been engaged and they start talking with a taliban, i believe the entire international community. it's just because of the position

they got. and that's why i think they are showing themselves in a different way. if i would like to compare a government of afghanistan with the taliban a, the a i don't think to 8th a will be the reality that i cannot compare a legitimate government, which is terrorist group because the government have their responsibility. duty and they have to deliver to services that they have to keep the security of the people . and of course they have to enforce law and while by the taliban and tell on just killing and just destroying and moving by violence and bringing fer, among the public opinion. i think that's, that's not the way of victory. i do believe victory notes in war which comes with a piece reconciliation understanding and harmony. and right now what we are think it's totally different. i really. ringback of course the government gun is fun,

is also not angel. we do have lots of difficulties when it comes, especially with the military leadership and stuff because the due to some policies, they're good. jan roles was been sending home. and right now we have a just feel the security sector would in you and add those news also not taking action. for me, it's unacceptable to say technically we led the taliban to gain the district, of course, technically, because just the government want to save and protect the civilian taliban. are using the human shield in the different district. that's why they are gaining. it's not the reality, but when it comes to who is delivering service to the people, i think right now it should be people who have gone to such should be all some port in part who's delivering service to the people know which and especially tolerable . talbert taking money and well from the people they are asking even to human

resources. and that's, that's why if you see those district was going to be on the taliban control at the people are going to move from the area to where the government control area. so that was clear message from the public. i've got a son that they don't like to live under taliban control. and of course those district to taliban are a patient. it's either it was before with a tolerable or it was the very the most vulnerable areas. one can just gain it or the government would not enough capital already to take action. i do believe it was not fair to see the government of ghana, son and defensive position. they have to change their strategic of course we are ready for p stock, but it meanwhile, they have to fulfill their responsibility duties when it comes to keep security. and so we're going to have to country and there's a moment for arm civilians to resistance to taliban. not just north. let's bring in

. we have somebody i want to share here of civilians who have taken up arms against that element. these people used to have weapons in their homes for their own security. they picked them up to day and came to the district to show those who disrupt security, that we are working with, our security forces to ensure secure. and we warn the dollar bond to come and stay in peace. and if they do not stay in peace, they will face these young people and the people of afghanistan, we will not allow our country to become in secure, and we stand by our security forces. i lay the lead us general there this week said that they could visualize a path to civil war. part of that might be the civilian militias. have you been able to get outside of kabul and report on, on this? and if you have what, what have you found out there actually going tomorrow i can give you more direct

information unfortunately. but the issue of the civilian malicious and goes back to what i meant by advice is that people find themselves in a situation where no one is providing for them, right? so it's all about, it's clearly not providing for them. the government is failing to provide for them in many areas. a lot of people feel left out by the government. and if you look at a lot of these statements, they, when they say they say we want to fight back in some paula bar and we want to show that we won't allow and securities take over, that would be support our security forces. they never say like we support the government and his card form or this is what we want to preserve, they're fighting for our lab. so that's a really important distinction to make. what can lead, configure the civil war, and she'll be, hold into an actual co government as it stands, government, if it continues to exist. whenever war comes to an end and you know,

get these people back in line and make sure that they don't turn their guns. i guess the people of happened in 1992. so this is, this is a major issue on the one hand, people feel, you know, air localize in their security and taking over their own lives, protecting their own land. but there's also the fear that, well, what if it's just turns into another conflict between groups between missing, between regions. and there's a lot of and answer questions about it. i want to bring in some comments from people and are you to body. and now actually today i'm going to throw this one to you. why as us withdrawing from afghanistan now that comes from winston west. i think that's the question that it's probably best out from president vitamin. it's all here with us. all of on deal that with find it agree of 2020, which was hated it which all of us international courses. but let me give you

online that happens to telephone, committed to entering into negotiations and government, which then would actually be the precondition for withdrawal. further with the gradually of the american but also the international courses are nato presence in afghanistan. well, there with joe continued, but the tell it on actually believe there you go. station around one ended in 2021 of the 3 2nd of december of 2020. and the negotiated shooting and cuts are actually decided to go home. take a break to their families and come back around to the negotiation. on the 5th of january of 2021. well guess what happens? they ask him to go sheet and pack their bags, their cobra test got their plane ticket. they're landed and only to find it. there's no telling where are the telephone? nobody knows us does not know us. special representative says no, they don't know. we don't know what turns out 2 weeks later,

the holiday and actually show up in moscow. and then they show up and on. and then they show up a rating through a length of suicide bombers in pakistan. these are not just about any telephone. these are actually $14.00 who are on the un security council thing to live for, prohibit traveling internationally, but who actually enjoy. and they mention that i think a travel in support a piece of reconciliation, but what we'll be doing using that privilege for the travel exemption under the city council. thank you. and they were actually using it to avoid any negotiation. they agreed to come back on the 10th of january of 20 negotiate, but they chose not to. they actually went all over the over the world, but negotiating which they were comp, this abuse of the privilege of the travel exemption for men listed under the un sanction. misuse of that privilege shoes and tell you how much priority the

telephone gift he used to the taliban would say we are fighting international market called international. well, there is no international occupation anymore because everybody who has an international force is there withdrawing from the muslim scholars. everything from everywhere from from long cubs. rebundle dash to egypt through 30 ravia are saying this war. the more that the telephone author, keating is not legitimate religiously anymore if it ever was so the so called you have the telephone for the pushing is not there anymore. and so therefore, now is that the government? but there are also pushing increasingly in areas where if only really so the war against the security forces. now also the telephone for people, which is why you saw that video,

people taking up arms to actually protect their likelihood, protect their land, but also to stand up with the national security forces because they're the only truly national 4th capable of mobilizing the people. but i think the matter very important point, the point that we made was that is there are risks that all of these uprising all across the country, but actually a great into something less controlled. i think that's a real risk. the government can only do so much to actually break into the all of the security forces and the control group. but, but that's at the ball. the really isn't the telephone to actually stop the fight against the government to fight against the fighting. because that is actually risk, the co rody, the consensus inside the society and government to make peace. because when people take a car, when people actually damage the taliban and the damage from the telephone to ation

and those societies look great in a way that would be hard to catch them. so this really is an opportunity for them to make these. and we're also in the un for asking the permanent 5 members of the un security council actually tailored the travel exemption. instead of giving the telephone listed under the sanctions from travelling. instead of giving them a blank check, why didn't you give them the ability to? i was and she wouldn't just members of our audience cuz we're running short on time . for ru, khan is common in a couple of times and it says, what is the responsibility us as a superpower? is to lead us into civil war. leave the economy destroyed. he also goes on to say, wherever usa goes, spreads war corruption, chaos but leaves without picks. in the country or paying for the loss of civilians . and here's a great question for you. sure. grids from devonjay and junior are women safe

now in afghanistan. i don't think there's such a 2nd stance as we could call of god. his time is safe because the way which is happening, the way they plan, and the way days the nato forces are leaving. i've got it done. it means i've got his son. we hope it just didn't go back to the safe haven terrorist network, international terrace network groups. but it means that when the land is not safe, how we can call it, the women are gone. it's been our can be safe. i think just recently the northern part of the country did those district which is going to be controlled by taliban at the moment. they order again this same rule as they were ruling of god has fun during the end of 19, they say that women cannot go out without mail company or my from. and of course, they should covered themselves even they asked the shopkeepers do not sell anything

to those women, which is they are coming without mil member of their family or mushroom. so this is, this shows like talent on our against mentally ideology. they are not ready to accept, not only women of ghana, son, but how they're right. so there's no guarantee they will respect and recognize human rights, women's rights, freedom of expression, power of sharing. and of course, the power of the people, which is the constitution of got to stand in national identity and values, which is the afghans made. and the last 20 years, we paid a lot a, we paid our life, we paid to time for it. and for, for me, it's not to really easy to accept it. i should go back 22 years for where i started . i start my activity and to be a women's rights activist during

a ton of time. it was the 1998 degree where you say in the country, it's hard for me for you remain in the country that looks like you're taliban ro over. i'm calling always? yes, yes. this is my life. a i took the decision when they beat me on the street. and did i? it was like a just a wake up call for me because i was a visiting the doctor without me a month member of my family. so they big me on the street. why i'm alone with my little girl with my daughter. although i shave my daughter here to look like a boy. so she was very small and little. and this, this kind of story. i think every african women did. so for me it's very hard to see the journey. i star during the taliban. of course, it was a different time. i just am, i don't have united states or any other nato countries support. i was living in a very merchant ally and neglected society and country and the earth with the name

of scottish them right now was way different. and that different it vision means it means generation change in that change of generation, bring lots of thanks to afghanistan and the new generation get been engaged to the work. so that's why it's not acceptable for us to have the fact go back to the dorky job. i've got them. so that's why i'm saying i've got a sub. shouldn't go back to the hands of terrorists network. there's no guarantee also do her agreement talking about said they will cut their til with their let's say i'll tell you down or an ice ice or dice group. so where is still they have formed fighters with fighting with them? so they have those they terror support and malicious and militant with them, but it's not easy for everyone to accept that. ok, just to tell it,

which is they are a religion scholar, know how to use gun, how to control the district and their military ability. so of course, we all understand there are bringing the international fighters, which is they don't have pace and their own countries only bring all the trees. how long should be a playground? it seems like you're trying to jump in on that. did you have something to say there it is truly, you know, that they haven't shown that they necessarily tied up also. i mean, was really mean today, you know, and especially what does it mean? a lot of fun. it's a nice word to you, but you know, to currently, i don't really know what to and i think we have to be careful and trying to conflate that was because if you were in the east when i was around in the eastern provinces, you know,

people fled specifically because because of what, you know, what they were presented, how much they feared them. and you know, all of this already to begin with. they were fighting each other in this group and eventually be ever fighting each other. so i think, i think we have to be honest about these things. yes, it's all about the terrorist group. yes, they do awful pain, but i don't think it helps to, you know, we have the same problem in 201415. the government kept going on about all the dice, dice, say stage, and then what happened ramped up, it's important for the total of on because they're afraid of coming near their border projects on folks on these other places. you know, they involve their fighters got involved, they're armed opposition. scott involved, russia got involved. we didn't actually know making things any favor. so i think we just have to, you know, start being a little bit more precise and you're john a difference between the taliban. i solar isis or dash,

but has been gained. i will say, do international credibility because the u. s. engage with them in the peace talks and all or you want me to gauge with them, right? brock obama wanted to send them to a long thing. unfortunately, they've been really smart and right. they have played a diplomatic game. they've been in 2011 and they've been meeting with foreign officials all along. and she was pointed out over the last few years. what did they do? they went on a world tour, wouldn't shoot just for one more moment and literally you got about 15 to 30 seconds here. shoot for this final point. go for here's the truth about guys. ok. they may be fighting to touch on a certain parts of the country, but they're actually in the telephone, certain other parts of the country. they're using the same network, the model explosives and arms and ammunition one, recruit dice is also actually active in the be in security umbrella. that's all

a bond provide. not just of them but to every other 6 neighboring country. and paula bon actually is hosting terror organization from 5 of the, from china. i am. it's like a minute. all right, the problem is not just, you know, the every terrorist organization under the sun. well, i agree i'm going to give you 15 seconds for a final thought if you have it here. oh, i do believe. and just recently, couple of weeks ago the deputy of al qaeda was been killed in a me program. plus one of the famous the taliban commander. so me still al qaeda is existing. and i think just recently and of course we can not say that when the ideal like these are the same. we should forget that the taliban have the id ology and their idea allergies their reality. so we cannot say when they have findings.

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