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to guess who introduced himself to you. and i don't are great to have he tell everybody who you are. thank you so much. my name is donna pollard, and i am the founder of survivors corner. that's a nonprofit that i started back in 2018 to empower and survivors the various forms of trauma while bringing an end to psycho to the families, including cases or child parents. thanks for being with us, sarah. welcome back to the stream. and wanting to odeon to love what date. thank you so much for having me. my name is laura top, a name and i publicly advocate here in the united states to end the practice of child marriage. i was worth 15 years old to marry a complete stranger. and so now i use my experience to advocate against the practice and very harmful practice that exists here in the us and worldwide and hello max, welcome to the stream, tell everybody. hi,

my name is max robins on the founder and executive director of students. again, child marriage, where the 1st student lead non crop in the united states that the voted to and the american child crisis get to have you get. i'm going to start with a conscious of a controversial unicef and teen marriage have campaign that made some people really upset. have a look. ah

. so that campaign was company against child marriage and you can see the response on line. it doesn't happen to white children . it doesn't happen in the developing well people. ringback who was really, really surprised, sorry, i'm getting the same response back here on our twitter feed for the stream. and we were talking about child and i was telling people about this program. and then b, d, b, let me just scroll up here shocking in the land of the freeney toleration child marriage, this entire conversation. why in america, in 2020, will there be children who have been married off this year and will be married or

next year. and they are on age, they caught him, is that they can get married. why exactly? and unfortunately the laws in the u. s. allow the child marriage to happen legally right now and $46.00 states. child marriage is legal. we have made progress in 2017 and there have been 2 states that have led the charge, pennsylvania and delaware, and then followed by pennsylvania and minnesota. so those state now ban and marriage under the age of 18. but in all other 46 states, child marriage is usually allowed. and the reason is because these laws are based in old, patriarchal value that no longer apply to our societies norms. and it's astonishing that this is still continuing and 2020,

and it has to change. i want to give people an example of what that must be, like a documentary series called frontline. and just a couple of years ago, they did a comprehensive report about child might in the united states and also elsewhere around the world. and they came out with a delaware court clerk called ken bolden. he's can story. i recall specifically a young girl who was terrified, literally scared to death, go to hardly speak, was coming into our married to get a marriage license. she was 14 years old and she was applying her mother was coming in to sign to get permission for her to be married. and she was there with a male who was 27 years old. applying to be the groom. and i was statutorily required to do was since from there was there to sign and give them

permission. i was supposed to grant them marriage license and perform the ceremony . as kim was talking on cassie, donna nodding, donna, this business resonate with you. i have got a wedding picture of yours and you are 16. so again, terrified little girl you. you also know what that like. can you share some of those thoughts with us because that's how we became an advocate because you were surviving the child manage lately, i was 16 years old when i was married off to a man that was 15 years earning one at the times at the reading occurred i was taken to pigeon forge tennessee, which is very well known by fair shot at weddings occur each year. and i remember for the 1st time after having been grand for 2 years by the man,

i actually met him when i was 14. and i was a patient at behavioral health facility where he worked as a mental health technician. and he use his possession to crate upon my honor abilities and the fact that i was growing up and he perpetuated the piper and abuse . well, we went to the court clerk for them to give us the marriage license with my mother's consent. the clerk didn't even look at me. she actually asked which one is the minor without even looking out from the computer and noticing help hold and transactional, that. that's when i really started killing that c or, and i realize this was going to be a very dangerous situation that was, were allowing me to get into that. i want to show you some of the initial thoughts are coming from out. you chief commenters that say off the prize. this is carrie. yes, this, i'm 63 years old and have lived all of the u. s. a. and i am not familiar with said

. and then i anything america, the most developed country, but still it has tell marriage you and our whole educating journey is to become an advocate. what surprised you the most? when you started looking into child mario and why did you say ok now? now i have to see if i can help stop it in america. yeah, child marriage is a modern human right. the news happening right here in america, backyard. and i 1st learned about this from a, mary, so i started very similar to this. i read it in the new york times and i learned just now problematic. this is i learned about the countless showers in don age that are here every year being forced into abuse and marriages. and they were in the this exist because people don't know it exist. tom marriage in the united states, the leader of the free world. it happens because the public isn't aware of it. and it happens because lawmakers, they don't think that their constituents are aware of this abuse,

not the result. they don't think anything's gonna happen to them as elected officials, if they don't act on that. and what that lead to has been arcade laws and the legal loopholes which allow those transactional type court clerk events, which haven't could donna and they can happen every year. nothing stopping them by raising awareness with conversations like these where i would find you put an end to that. i have to share this with you. i guess you already know this, but i'm going to just shed it for i will, i will audience. this is the state department in united states and they, they, they share some traveling troubling issues globally. one of them is for the marriage, u. s. department of state views for marriage as a human rights abuse. and in the case of mine as a form of child, a piece, if you are us citizen and the victim of a 4th marriage overseas, you've had a whole lot of advice about what happens if you see side overseas. meanwhile,

at home, there's a major issue. yeah, let me, let me bring in, let me bring in unit staff because he says is working on this as i guess are 2. and this is how you frame the challenge a half with child marriage in us, your call child marriage, a harmful practice and a violation of child, right? and believe that marriage under the age of 18 should be prohibited in all circumstances. yet here in the united states, there's actually no federal law around child marriage. rather each individual state is responsible for sending their own requirements. this is why unit usa is a member of the national coalition to in child marriage, working alongside in g o partners in order to help repeal handful loopholes or exceptions that may promote the practice of the state level. so when he issue so many of the issues about childcare, which is what happens to the survivors,

and we already have that we know how young people who are girls mostly who are in child marriage. if they don't strive your website is trying to push back on that sliding after surviving is one of the stories that you share. i'm going to share. i'm going to share some pictures of you if you're babies. this was you when you were married off and he love a girl and a new baby. so basically a baby having babies. what was the impact on you being married? that young? yeah. well the biggest impact for me was on my education. at 15 years old, i had a desire to put a law school to an air force and then go to law school and become a lawyer. those were my dreams at 15 years old. and on the day of my wedding, when i was forced to marry a complete stranger,

who i had just met that very morning who was 28 years older than i took away all my credence. not just my education because i wasn't allowed to go back to school after that point, i gave up ownership over my body. i gave up everything. it was simply to be abused by another human being. and that just shouldn't be allowed to happen here in the state. it's going to be allowed to happen anywhere. and in fact i'm, i really shocked at some of those comments that i hadn't seen on the twitter feed, talking about how this doesn't affect white people. well, i don't think that's the issue here. i think the real issue is that there's child abuse happening here and it's completely legal. so it's shocking to me that you know that people would say that this isn't happening to white people. i don't think it's a white issue. i don't think it's the brown issue. i think it's a worldwide human rights abuse issue. absolutely,

and if i could just jump down and you back off what i shared as well, because if you look at the data in the state of kentucky, you know, here in kentucky we are a predominantly white state. and since the year 20001002017, there were $10000.00 cases, a child marriage that occurred. and there is no typical profile. it's not tied to specific religion, it's not tied to specific grades. and the majority of those cases verbiage in a child and a person that was already legally an adult. the youngest was 30, she was made to the 3 year old man. and the way that was worth in kentucky prior to receiving the legislative change in 2018. if you were under the age of 6, you could be married if there was a pregnancy involved. and a judge would sign off on that. and we hear that we think will surely

a judge and their right mind will not authorize errors with a child. but in that case, that, that 13 year old girl that was married after the 33 year old man, she was pregnant, a 15 year old, married off to assist the 2 year old who is pregnant. i mean, these are basically archaic walls that often legitimize and legalize tennis. that's exactly what's happening. and there is no typical profile for it. right, right. i would have to agree with you, donna, and not only that, but in the state of california days to legally consent to having that is 18 years old. so the act of child marriage create a loophole in our statutory rape live here in california. and there is a reason that we have such a way to protect minors from child and sexual abuse. and so why are we

protecting the abusers when we really should be protecting the children from the horrific heretic form of abuse and mac. i'm sure that you know you in your studies have, have seen the statutory rape lot circumvented in many states. oh, absolutely. car marriage in the united states is nothing short of a, in a way of legalizing rate between legalizing abuse and we have legalizing human trafficking. that's our setup, legal and $4060.00, which is just absurd and surprising in 2020 and it's almost laughable. and i also just want to go back to what sar was mentioning before about the loss of education as a survival driver. me a child marriage. that's one of the reasons why i think we've been able to see stuff, great momentum and bring students into this fight into really invigorating our younger generations and working to combat the marriage. and it's because we're fighting for on when i 1st learned about this issue,

i was only 17 of the vast majority of child marriage. survivors were my age when i learned on very privilege to identify noun to, to not be slated to be a survivor. child marriage, i was mobilized, i was, i was energized to fight for my own. and that's why all new students who i've spoken to about this, who no idea that this was happening, just so many of the viewers today were unaware of this. that's why upon learning about it, they talked, you know, they went up in arms and they joined the fights with, with such passion and such an eagerness to, to end this abuse. let me just bring in. it has a ball. heather is from human rights. what she kind of frames, what is going on here? you've already done that. you've been very, very specific about her. this being child abuse. heather looks ahead to now, how did he thinks it? what do we do about this in united states? he, she is the main reason child married happened in the u. s. and everywhere else that

it happened is gender inequality. girls are seeing this not as valuable as boys girls, sexuality. you've seen this something that has to be feared and controlled, including by forcing growth and marriage. and in terms of when child marriage will end in the us. it's amazing. the activists have gotten 4 days to change their laws . but that leaves 46 left to go. so there's a long fight ahead on this issue. yeah, i don't, i'm sorry you've been doing this like taking it to the courts because every state has different rules. so it's going to take 50 different legal battles, some of which has already been one. so every state to say that child, now it should be illegal and you should only married a minor when they get to the age of consent. for example. don't, can i give you this question? and this is from in these huge comments. not my passport. password is

the handle. what about parental consent? can be anything done on the as punishment to parents easy. somebody, you know, a lot about the can tell from kentucky go ahead. that's a very great question. and you know, i will say that what we often consider parental consent is most often parental coersion as in the case with my own mother. you know, my mother was very abused, growing that she herself had been a child, cried married off at the age of 13 to my father who is older than she was and already had 2 sons from a previous relationship. and you know, this is something that i can trace all the way back to the are 1814, every generation on my end, i had a case as an under age marriage that occurred. and so, you know, when you grow up and you can normalize. and then you know, k, she arie, that into the abuse with me because she had suffered trauma herself when she was

young and ended up abusing me. and you know, she was very eager to marry me off when i turned 16, which is how i ended up in a situation that i was. and so you know, parental consent itself has to be looked at in a different way. now i will say that i think at the end of the day, all of us have the same goal to end child marriage before the age of 18. and where as there is only been 4, said here in the united states that have actually set that high bar at the age of 18. i will say that i'm hopeful by the progress that we have been making and other states to at least increase the minimum age. and you know, in the state of kentucky as an example, we did away with parental consent and we require traditional approval raising the age to age 17, requiring approval that with

a stablish clear criteria that the judge would have to assess before authorizing the marriage, such as the person that the minor was married could not be greater than 4 years older than them. the miner would have to be in the judge's chambers talking about how they met. so the judge would have the opportunity to identify a coercive relationship versus you know, that type situation. and again, i'm not advocating for children to marry at the age of 17. but what i'm saying is that in my personal advocacy, i patch reached the point where i can't let good be the and me as perfect. and when i'm covering statistics showing that 13 year old girls are being married off to men in their thirty's. then that says to me, i am willing to at least make them progress and protect those young children and do the next best thing and make sure that, you know, children that may be, are marrying 17, are also as best as they possibly can be. before we achieve that priority goal and

18, i'm going to bring one more to our conversation and this is case he's voice. i'm going to get you to different cases, right? sorry. and then just come right off the back of it. his case, he swept me. one thing that's always weighed on me as an advocate is the way in which child marriage often leads to severe isolation from friends from community. and also often results in a girl being entirely cut off from her education survivors. i've worked with will share that while eventually they have been able to leave their marriages as adults, and many have achieved a great deal. they wonder often just how much farther along they might be, how much more they might have been able to achieve if they hadn't been married as children. right. and that's exactly why i advocate for bright line of 18 legislation. i just think it's so important because as you

share what they call the age of majority, you can enter into a lease agreement. for example, you can go to a shelter, you share the rights as an adult. and unfortunately, you know, by setting the bar a little bit lower than that, you're still exposing children to your arms of abuse. and unfortunately on that abuse has already started to occur. there's not much that you could do at that point that the person has been traumatized. you're now trapped in a relationship that you cannot often see a way out. and that is so true for myself. along with many of the survivors that i've worked with, and the trauma is so severe that you often it's, it's years of therapy. it takes, you know, years of working to get back to where you possibly could have been to even be able

to actually speak about abuse that occurred when you were younger. i'm so that's why it's so important to protect our children under the age of 18, from this horrific form of abuse and from not being able to leave that relationship . so we do a few new houses a show about 3 years ago. how is the child marriage situation, the united states now, would you say it's going in the right direction? were fewer and fewer child knowledge is right now poses to what you're doing. and other advocates doing. you know, i wish i could say that with, you know, 100 percent, you know, clarity that child marriage is, is lowering, but we don't know that that's true. and especially with co, with 19 and the locked down happening across the world. it's unfortunately, they're bating domestic violence situations including the child abuse including

child marriage and then you want to f p a actually. and there was a recent report named that child marriage is one of the 3 abuses against women and girls world. why? so unfortunately, you know, and in the u. s, while have 4 states that have banned child marriage, i'm not sure if that has decreased the number of child managers that are happening . i can only hope that it has, but we have seen, exacerbated her and donna max. thank you very much for talking to us about the work that you're doing to make child niger close the united states, illegal cause off the united states. really appreciate your help today. and i, you to comment as well. this conversation is going to continue on in scum. let me show you what we're doing on my computer here. charge mileage in the united states

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