was something that was not lost upon spectators. i feel suffering right now, but in the same sense we had mentioned, but we should have to celebrate for the ally. i any city that suffered badly, but all through and this now saying thank you to all those who may happen. gabriel is on your ah tough check of the headlines here on our 0 police and haiti say the rest of 2 people in connection with the assassination of president. jovan emily's 4 other suspects were killed in a gunfight. in hong kong, $47.00 pro democracy activists charged under china's national security law. a backend court. the charges are related to their roles and the pro democracy primary elections in july last year. it was difficult, pauleen has more from outside the court in hong kong. 47 are accused of

conspiracy to commit a version for holding unofficial primary election for now delayed legislative council elections. now what they were trying to do is narrow down the scope of we would be able to win seats. the hong kong government that under the national security law, has accused of using this as a ploy to overthrow hong kong government. not a 47 up there, up in the courtroom. read the list of who to of hong kong pro democracy movement. many of them are very familiar and then i would say familiar charges. there are 2 who spoken to us have been very vocal about the democracy movement here. south africa as for my president, jacob zoom is in police custody of a turning himself in late on wednesday night. a court sentence him to 15 months in jail for setting to show up a corruption inquiry last week. those graft charges tempted his time in office.

another member of the raja packs of families been sworn in to shank as parliament basil roger pack says now the finance minister, his brothers are prime minister and president one his nephews also in the cabinet. the family has dominated shank and politics for 2 decades. the un security council set for disgust, ethiopia as grand renaissance dam. later on thursday, the project a strain of ties with egypt and sedan, a fatal break to reduce their access to the main supply of fresh water from the nile. but global death toll from covey. 19 has now surpassed 4000000 more than one and a half 1000000 of those deaths were recorded in just 3 countries. united states, brazil, and india. the crisis is becoming a race between vaccine rollouts and the highly contagious delta variant. those were the headlines and he's continues here now to 0 after the stream. essentially, for watching i can, i live in an unconventional capital city ever changing and yet forever

defined bytes turbulent past. stephanie deck meets berliners and takes you want a journey. exploring the identity and legacy of europe's rebel capital took out his era. ah. this week survivors of residential schools told their horror stories to prime minister just intruder. as he walked through recently discovered secret grace of indigenous children, the 5 minutes the court, the schools that took more than 150000 indigenous children away from their homes, adult and shameful chapter of candidates history. we are the survivors of the residential schools and their family members, what they remember, what the experience, it was like. this is what i told the stream. i tend to miss kogan residential

school from 1962 to 1971 in residential school experience. trauma of says, caused sexually emotional and spiritual abuse. i am seeking justice against the catholic church, against the government of canada, and la police for all the wrong doings. my family all went to the same eugene mission, residential school. it is impacted our lives when our, our lives. i mean all of our lives. my mother is my and my uncles, they all went there and they were great me scarred. i was raised in foster homes. i grew up with all my culture without knowing my language for they'll, knowing anything about my parents or my uncles or aunts grandfather's grandmother's a saying today, how does survivors of kind of his residential schools and their relatives and the answers to how do they get justice what does look like? this is a conversation i would love to be in. if you're on youtube right now,

the comment section is right here for you to be part of asha. let's meet the gap. so i'm going to say hello to don a to tanya, to brandy and hello to charlie. can you're welcome to the stream, introduce yourself to our international radiance kessler. thank you for having me. new go on my hello. my english name is kenya. dick, i'm a registered nurse and both of my parents are survivors of the saint michael's residential school and other a, b c. thank you for being with us today. hello brandy. welcome to the stream. introduce yourself to our level audience, ponce. hello, ball. sure. to nathan. you thank you for having any on the show today. my name is brandy lauren. i am a journalist, specializing in indigenous stories. i'm from the show 1st nation and of cree required french background. my grandmother is a survivor of the residential school system. and i tell these stories of survival

to international national audience. and i have a welcome to the stream. introduce yourself and also tell us what is your connection to residential schools in canada? well, what to charlie angus mission account? i am charlie angus, the member of parliament for the vast northern canadian region of timmins, james bay. i am not indigenous, but i have spent years working with the survivors are one of the most evil institutions in memory, the st. anne's residential school and the damage at that school did that. we're still fighting for justice in the communities. i represent the fight for children to clean water, proper schools, the suicide crisis that we see. so much of the damage that was done. this is not ancient history, this is ongoing trauma caused by these crimes. and that's a lot of the work that i do now will i guess not when you have these ongoing trauma, every single head nodding that i'm going to show our audience something guests and then brandy. i love you to bounce off the back of this canada residential schools

from the 802990. that's going to scroll down here slowly so you can see how many they were right across canada. will you brandy? there will be some people who will be going watch what happened? how do you answer that? so over the o for over 100 years, there were 130 residential schools across canada, the provinces and territories. and they were brought in soon after the indian act legislation was brought into law. and it was, it is still a legislation that is oppressive and effect and controls for every aspect of life for 1st nations in this country. and part of that was to, you know, assimilate and didn't as children into the mainstream white culture. and so these

schools were mandated by law for children to be forcibly removed from their families and taken 4, sometimes years to the schools that were notoriously abusive in every kind of way. if parents refused to send their kids, they were threatened with arrest from the ro canadian mounted police. a lot of times the children didn't even receive a proper education. many survivors that i have met with and interviewed are illiterate. some, you know, injured, forced labor and worked for farmers and other industries in these institutions. there were nutritional experiments performed on several in several of these schools . many of these children died of malnutrition, the schools were underfunded, and the children lived in unsanitary conditions which

contributed to their death by disease such as to berkeley losses and you know, nutrition and accidental death. and as we're finding out murders by the staffing clergy that run the schools, so they were run an administrator by the church, the roman catholic church, the anglican churches. and i had a few others. i know you've so kanisha, pictures of your mom and dad, so i'm going to show that to your mom and dad right here. and these are pictures of the hud. you know, so this is your dad. how does the who is 5 years old dad tried now? and then this is my mother. i need to, i really like it. well, what happened to that? they were both taken away at 5 and 6 years old and you know, really parent her,

their parents didn't really understand. and even the generation before my parents, they got caught up in kind of the tv sanatorium in the hospitals. so they didn't have the opportunity to be parents for their children. and just as my grandparents started a really young age and just as a result of kind of the same sort of policies and legislation that were set out to kind of have this genocide effect on the indigenous people in the country. i'm going to bring in here melanie clinker. tony, have a listen to what melanie has to say. melanie fresh realizes, in mass graves, secret grace, discovering them, tracing back what happened? this is what she wanted to share with. i have a listen, charlie move on my grades surrounding residential schools in canada. merge. there are 2 questions that come to the for firstly, why am, how so many children die?

and secondly, why were these 40 then disposed of and grace was lawful? trying to answer to these questions, i echoed the united nations expert school for and then defective. i'm full prompt investigation into these alleged grades and i would after these, but the investigation needs to be culturally appropriate and capable of identification is also that human remains can be returned to the effect of families and she's in the future. well, absolutely, what we're looking at is the beginning of the many, many mass graves and the numbers are going to be for some people shocking. but for anyone who's looked at this history, it's just going to be bringing back of the damage. and we have and dealing with crime against humanity, it must be said that this wasn't accidental. this wasn't,

they didn't know bad or they were trying their best. this was a policy that was, you know, made mistakes. the policy was the deliberate destruction of the indian people. duncan campbell scott infamous in canada, now he was a famous poet in his day, he was in charge and he said that his job at the department of indian affairs was to solve with a final solution. i was what he said, the final solution to the indian problem, that there would not be an indian problem in canada. and the problem was that the people were not leaving their land. they were not disappearing. so we will find a huge mass graves, particularly, i think in western canada, many of those will have died from tuberculosis that wasn't again accidental. that was deliberate government under funding the churches giving off, putting children at risk because these children's lives did not mean anything to government. we will find other graves for children who died from abuse in my region

. the children who ran away that their parents never to learn, they didn't even bother to tell. in some cases what happened to the children children just were taken for simply as my colleagues say, by the police, by the church. and some of them they never came home and nobody, it's really hard to describe what it's like to talk to a family member whose son uncle never came home and nobody told them. that's the crime. and i just have to say again, this isn't history because it's ongoing. when the government realize the residential schools were not working, they brought in something that we call the 60 scoop. they took the children and to decided to forcibly assimilate them in white families and we have more children in care today in canada and not care. it's taken by from their families taken from their language. we have more children taken today than at the height of the residential schools and our government. the canadian government was found guilty in

the human rights tribunal ruling in 2016 of quote, wilful and reckless discrimination against indigenous children. and we have our prime minister, mr trudel, fighting the human rights tribunal in court, spending millions of dollars trying to overturn ruling it's found the government guilty today of wilful and reckless discrimination where children were losing a child one on monday, one on wednesday, one on saturday to the system and nobody in ottawa ever seemed to give it them. so we're talking about a crime against humanity and justice must be served. i'm going to play, i guess this is, but that was a residential school. and in a documentary, co konica stop secret, which is an out of here documentary from a few years ago, he went back to the residential school and to the boiler room. and you see him go from a senior to a little boy again and telling his story, have a lift and have a look. there's

a boilers that the far end is where i got melissa time and time again. ne, after a boy did i ever wish somebody would come? liar? somebody would miss me somehow in the air again. and i just came over there feeling so dirty, rotten low as you can imagine. and i thought every kid over there knew that i had what happened to me when i think you all have them because none ever bothered me whenever i see what happened in there. so i think we all got it at one point or other friday i just seen a disgusting your face. yeah, i've, i've heard so many similar stories and it just like i cab fathom how for so long,

this abuse was so wide spread and how they were able to, the perpetrators were able to get away with this, to molest insult in all of our society, which is our children, and yet not her be held accountable to this day, there's been a limited amount of perpetrators of the thousands who abused and neglected these children that have been held accountable and criminally. charged ottawa holds the names and information of over $5000.00 alleged abusers of the residential school system. and thousands of them are still alive today. that is the adjusted that survivors have in this country. and i just, it just baffles me. and like charlie said, you know,

all of these conversations are bringing up these past traumas and memories, you know, for the survivors. and it's very, very difficult to move through. but i also believe that finally that the world has taken notice. because we have been telling the stories in media here for a long time. survivors have been speaking their truth for years and most of canada has turned a blind eye to that. so it's about time that canada has been, you know, shaved by the rest of the world to be able to take this seriously and, and for these truths in all of their disgust and ugliness and pain. so that perhaps we can start to heal and have space to move forward. time you want this discovery essays last. gracie knew they were out that

now grown up. they knew that the i'm going to say shady, shady things going on. so when you see these mass greys being uncovered, for you personally, as for other people whose families have missing members of their family taken away, what were all you right now? yeah, i just don't, you know, i think you know, my parents and what, what they must have been experiencing at that age and, you know, hearing stories, not only from them, but other survivors of st. mike's about, you know, they're kind of peers, they're cousins or siblings. just kind of disappearing and not knowing and never coming back and nobody ever knew they, they didn't know their parents didn't know. and just how they had to normal compartment flies and normalized that. and then, you know,

hearing story that had the privilege of working with another group of residential schools or fibers in the interior and having memories of having to dig the graves themselves. they didn't know what was grades they were, they were small, they knew they were child size. and you know, to not only kind of for whatever reasons, killer children, but put the responsibility on us to bury them in a way and their children themselves. so it's really difficult and i think about, you know, as we move forward, this is just the beginning. we knew my parents knew they were not surprised my grandparents on my father's side. they are not surprised. and we're just waiting for those numbers to come forward and how do we find a way to do, do this to ensure that we find every child because they deserve that. and if i don't know, i just my heartbreaks and knowing that government has kind of step forward federally to kind of put

a bunch of money forward for us to go and search our lab. i feel like that's us having to dig the grades again, like this is a responsibility and accountability of a government process and policy and initiative that children children do that work . then come to us about the cultural appropriate protocols to reclaim our children and bury them in a proper way and do what their little spirits need for them to be free. i mean, the only reason that government has stepped up right now is because these remains have been discovered they, they've known about this for 6 years and the truth and reconciliation commission petition the government for funds, which was under $2000000.00 for all the 1st stations across canada to, you know, find their children and to repatriate them and it was turned down. this is the only reason why canada and the provinces are providing money now is because they're under scrutiny and pressure pressure. so i think the issue. so if you go for

sure, i've got some comments coming in from youtube and people would love to talk to you . so you go 1st and i'm going to fill out pretty for you, i think, i think just to put it in context. and because we talked about the truth and reconciliation commission, which did an extraordinary job and it open the eyes for people, canada, many people, this stories, the documentation. but then there was something called the residential school settlement agreement. and i think we trusted that the government would do the right thing, but the government and the catholic church in particular, had a shared objective which was limiting their liability. the church didn't turn over the documents, that the federal government does have the names of some of the worst perpetrators. these men and women are not entitled to their privileges of privacy. they are, they are criminals. we need to have an independent investigation because you can't trust the government to do this. the government is part of a crime against humanity. as far as the sites go, we need

a major investment so that the communities can direct with i think international observers, forensics being able to get the documents and the idea that we'd ask the catholic church and we asked politely so many times for the documents. those days are done, we need to be able to get subpoenas. we need to be able to go into those orders. we need to be able to get who did watch, because that's where we're at. now we went through truce, we went through reconciliation with the federal government, and the catholic church in particular, had no intention of doing truth and reconciliation. and they were gonna get through this without paying what they owed. so i think people net now need, what does it gonna look like to have this considered the international crime scene? it is. and that those, those children have to come home. and that's going to be an enormous undertaking because it has to be done respectfully, it has to be done. right. and i did department of indian affairs doing that. not on our watch. they. they created the crime. so this asked if they didn't,

we need to major commitment that this is going to be addressed. let me show you a couple of thoughts and i'm going to get your instant reaction gas because shocking me, we're almost at the end of the show. so here is the date of delegation to the holy c to this comes from the post office. pope francis is deeply committed to him directly from indigenous people expressing his heartfelt closeness, interesting the impact of colonialism station and the role of the church in the residential school. system, tanya, is this enough or no, i mean, historically through the truth and reconciliation process. this is that the presence and genuine presence and voice of the pope hasn't been there. the apology hasn't really been wholly there. i know now there is a contingency of indigenous leadership going to him and i think that's kind of a statement again under scrutiny and just being kind of in, in the limelight and but behind the scenes, i don't,

i don't trust that that means anything. he hasn't written, he has no connection to a. yeah, let me tell me one, let me, let me put you brenda, i can you tanya, ministry of indigenous relations and reconciliation. they said we won't be on the program, but we will send you the statement. they say government allocated 12000000 in new funding to support 1st nations throughout british columbia with investigative work, a former residential school site that goes on and on monday, i know you're familiar with these kinds of statements. quick reaction if you could please. i mean, like i said there, i believe that they're only providing this because of the pressure that they're under because this is out in the open because of the shock of the international community. they are obligated to provide these resources. i think the true test will be when they act upon their, you know,

reconciliation efforts across the board. like providing resources and funding for a quality in our nations. or, you know, clean drinking water for, you know, poverty to be a radical in our communities. and all the other crisis is such it's missing and murdered. indigenous women and girls, which by the way is a current genocide. it's happening now. and the government is lagging on taking action. so you know, these, this was, they were forced into, you know, providing this, this, this money to do this. and i just, there's a lot more that needs to be done. so tell, let me put you, this is, this is i you to bodies because i came to talk to as well. so here, omar says, really blame today's canadians. this is a really important question because this is a question about reparations,

whatever community who has been wronged with talking about. but in the canadian context, if canadians are saying that, what do you say, bat, charlie? i would say that one of the most amazing things that you've seen in the indigenous communities is nobody is blaming this generation of canadians who they are holding . responsible is this generation of government. and this generation of the church. we have seen the canadian people come and have their eyes open in so many ways. we just had our national de, the canada day with everybody in canada, whereas red and white and we have a huge celebrations across the country. people were cancelling that and wearing orange, the symbol of the residential school survivors, canadians, except government to do justice. but it is so important for people to recognize that we're not talking just about the ain't the harms of what happened in an earlier day. the sixty's scoop the taking of the children. these are the ongoing

policies that were based on taking people was taste on, taking people off their lands so that the lands could be exploited, taking them away from their families and to have a federal government in court fighting today against this generation of children who are suffering abuse and suffering the denial of their culture because they've been taken from their families. we to make it right. we have to make history right by addressing those crimes that happen then, and doing justice for survivors. but the just finally the, the truth and reconciliation commission to call to action is to 1st whole group of calls was about this generation of children we, we protect. so i can see that your virus by protecting the children today, tale and brandy, and tanya and all of our audience, you on youtube. thank you so much for taking part in this discussion. we could do a whole new discussion in the next half an hour, but this is for now, we really appreciate your insights and your thoughts. thank you for watching. i will see you next time. take care everybody. ah,

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