for hours upon end, until it gets dark, when they are loaded on to military style trucks or vans, again, driven to the bank of the river and loaded onto smaller things. until you members agree to share the burden of asylum. greece is obliged to absorb any refugees that come its way and is likely to continue its policy of deterrents. jumps are awful. us al jazeera along the evidence river. ah, the top of the hour and these are the headlines, the death toll from violence triggered by the arrest of former south african president. jacob zoom has no reason to 72, hundreds of been arrested as well. violence of holes in the cove at 19 vaccination drive in some areas. sound asian says the violence will stop only if he's released from jail. other headlines at least 92 people now confirm dead from monday's fire.

at a cove at $900.00 ward and the iraqi city of nasiriyah have been protest demanding accountability from the government's u. s. vice president, canada hines, has met texas democrats who are hoping to derail a voting restrictions failed by republicans in their state. a say the measure could prevent minorities and other disadvantage groups from casting ballads in future elections. republicans in other states are moving ahead with similar legislations. cubans, restrictive access to social media and messaging apps following widespread anti government protests. this is according to a u. k based monitoring group state media. they $19.00, died during a demonstration in havana on monday. thousands, not some sunday, could protest against the economic crisis. and the government's handling of the pandemic and cuba based journalist read lindsey has moved from havana. foreign minister spoke today to foreign journalists and he actually said government waging

a thing, news campaign and presented a slide showing our are. ready thousands of tweets going out a create a social media campaign in the midst of all of that. it's not just social media now it's internet is down. generally, i've got internet here at the office here, but industry data is, is pretty much us off for people. so it's hard to stay connected, hard to know what's going on. exactly. but overall, then i was calling today and sort of day to day here in cuba. over $160.00 unmarked graves have been found and the canadian province of british columbia, the site of a former school for indigenous children. more than a 1000 on mark graves have been identified across canada. in recent months, circled residential schools were run by the catholic church between 18901969. you are up to date with the headlines on how to 0. the latest edition of inside story is mixed. ah,

ah ah, that's going public. in cuba, the government thing blame for the economic collapse and people want more freedom. also calling for the covered leadership, does that sound the where does this leave the communist party in havana? this is inside story. ah, ah, ah hello, welcome to the program of the whole roman food and medicine shortages, electricity blackouts, and a 3rd in corona virus cases. keepers worsting living conditions have sparked the

island nation's largest protests in decades. many cubans say that they've had enough of government policies that have taken to the streets, demanding. the president stepped down, but also calling for more freedom and a using slogans against the ruling communist party. dozens of people have been arrested and cut down on security forces. activists are using social media to gather support, but there are no restrictions. internet access present. miguel diaz canal who succeeded around cancer this year called on his supporters to defend the country. he's blamed the turmoil on decades low us sanctions, which have dried up cash resources. loafing, nancy, i mean to can, i'm a full, you see read the lack of finance for governance is due to the aggressive policy of blockade and financial persecution by the us. its being maintained by the government and we have not been able to maintain and fix the power supply planning and it had to get the with administration during donald trump's tenure imposed more than $200.00 new sanctions on cuba. and president joe biden has so far left those

measures in place. he's urge the cuban government to listen to people's grievances . folks, i want to start by recognize a remarkable protest will take place in cuba. cuba, people demanding their freedom from an authoritarian regime. i don't think we've seen anything like that in a long time. of course, frankly ever in the united states stands firmly with the people or q as they assert their universal rights. and because the government doesn't accumulate, refrain from violence or attempt to silence the voice of the people or q or cuba has been suffering hardships as the clumps of its back of the soviet union. it's not facing the greatest economic crisis in more than 30 years. the economy shrank by 11 percent last year and it's believed to be far worse now. tourism revenues, a main source of income for many cubans have dried up. the number of international

travelers found to be 90 percent compared to the before cubans. wait in lines, hours to buy basic products, pharmacy shelves, empty, and electricity blackouts, a common. the price of goods has also sold with inflation at 500 percent unexpected to increase. further, the government's reserves of foreign currency are depleted and that cannot afford to buy in goods to make up for the shortages. ah, well let's bring in august joining me via zoom from havana in cuba is gregory benny, off ski, keep analyst and strategic consultant from miami. florida in the united states rose up maria via the founder of cuba, decide the pro democracy movement and the executive director of the foundation for pan american democracy. and then also the canadian capital hollow tel pack, the author of the book, cuba military keepers, military 1990 to 2005 the professor at the royal military college of canada will

welcome to all of my guest. and thanks for joining us on this edition of inside story, mr. ben, he'll see because you were in havana just like tonight, i mean anger on the streets of cuba. many might not have thought they would ever seen the scenes that they did. and how surprised and are you about what you've seen, certainly from sundale woods. in fact, if i'm surprised, if that is that the signs of anger and discontent hadn't manifested months earlier . the situation in cuba has been extremely critical for many months now. and it, if anything surprising it, it's the populations patient with the regime and, and until last sunday, holding back in mass program. miss pine in miami, let me bring you and you have a different view, perhaps different perspective being across the water. what surprised you about sunday, or did it surprise you at all? now it was not. it was not a surprise actually from,

from the beginning of the year, jill, you 30 there were more than more than $1000.00. and 100 brought this that we know off. so they conditions were where were created for, for these to have any sounds. and it is their pricing. is that this massive, massive way to go to the didn't happen before. we reuse there on sunday. more than $45.00 between seated and towns that were protest and we're talking about hundreds of thousands of cuban industry at the same time across the island, demanding read of demanding the end of the dictatorship, missed the packet in auto was this just, you might say, a a pressure cooker just waiting to burst i have to write re and the only surprise here is, is the time before there was an explosion of sometime around the suffering that to

your program as far as going through the works period perhaps works for me and even on the special period of a mighty 90 where there are other elements such as the of the of the embargo which has already difficult for me through the roof and it will take the program develop. so can i bring in gregory again in havana? i mean, how concerned were you and you saw to hear reports about the heavy handedness of the security forces. they've the authorities on the island to try to hold back over the last 6 decades when it comes to protest like this for the moment. i wasn't got concerned perturbed any, any kind of injury. so public protest of course is disturbing. i would,

i would also say though, that compared to protests around the world, the cuban military had shown considerable restraint. there are no serious injuries that have been recorded by these 3 media, definitely know deaths. and i know i have friends that were part of the program and they themselves said that they weren't happy with it. but they were not allowed to protest in a way that again, compared to protest throat, latin america for columbia or chile, where you had a 100 people losing your eyes because that rubber bullets cube has reaction was, was quite restrain that does not justify stopping it. but we, i think we need to know it's not the different a miss. i was watching you as gregory spoke you shaking your head and that's disagreement. we'd like to come in. yes, of course. and because maybe it's because of the information. maybe this because of their shut down of internet that happened from brown at the,

in the island that at that. and they, the right amount of information is not available, but, but i mean by, you do it to check social media. and you see, for instance, in the report that from dell and just to see different now it will have 5 versions associated. we have to leave at least at least $800.00 names which are miss then determine and meet in just a few minutes are of course partials or the name of the company is that the position that principal of they give on society. but this brought this peterson lead brought in and that have been sounds very self in the whole island. they have been, i just saw yesterday night and a and e. my should media of, of, of the lady crying. i knew screaming because his nephew was killed in the great by meat and my dad there. especial bodies of the day. i mean, it sort of interior that whole island actually a,

it's spreading mile and again day the people that he's for this. okay, so we set the scene about what happened was since sunday, so let's just trying to pick exactly how we've got here. mr. cole package it all to . i mean, the government's problems and, and as you mentioned, the embargo, the sanctions, we had, the global financial crushes of what the 19 eighties and the 2 thousands cuba seem to survive through all of those 6 decades of you might say turbo plus the soviet breakup. and very little domestic strife with that, why has it boiled over you think now, is there another reason? well, i think it's just a combination. this is the same months and months of problems that are not the number and many other kinds of things. and by special period standards, electricity, so but the cues in the space unreasonable and the and the

difficulties and the mattresses are so severe. but even internationally, given the economic downturn, generally, when you add the tremendous success to the medicine system in the early months now returned the recent weeks by the explosion of the demo. really, it is an extraordinary combination, which i think as perhaps the 1st time there's a real generalized loss of confidence in mother who has control of the situation in terms of being able to follow on this current. mr. bell sky, and have you seen building an agreement with that? i mean, you're on the ground that you speak to people all the time. how do they feel about where they are now and who's to blame? yeah. well, i think it's an error to look at the cuban crisis

in a black and white way. i think there is a significant minority of people in cuba who want to see regime clap. i think there is a significant minority people who are blindly loyalty duration. and i think there is a majority of people in the middle who all want significant economic reform, but do not want to come out to collapse. and i think at least the cubans that i speak to, including cubans are not members of the communist party and to protect government. they would prefer change within the system because they're fearful of collapse. so i think that what does, what do the protests mean people are fed up? but i do not necessarily think that means the vast majority of cubans want to collapse a precipitous collapse of the richie miss ty, i saw you with a wry smile, listening to what gregory had to say,

because i just wonder whether the assumption that people don't want to leave the island, they love that key, but they love that country, but they just want to change of leadership and direction that would take them out of what they've seen as 6 decades of sanction. 6 decades of a blockade. i mean, where is that? is there a happy medium at all? well, everybody and i just do their assumptions and their opinions. but what did people was screaming in district was freedom down with the date or shoot. i'm not in band in this, i'm just repeating. why do we listen to what we listen on sunday, even a monday and they just told me today doesn't come away. there are, there are still protest even and beside old, the repression that have been taking place in the i let the people champion homeland on the live we have in the spanish is bad. that yeah. in the that the people with shunting freedom, freedom,

freedom down with the ship. i think that's big. that's pretty clear. and i my my, my call and make me yes. you know, for the national community, for all those people with good intentions and us as those that are going to be the final is please to listen to the people and not so much to hold the propaganda. i'll give again, all day, all the same beliefs, them that day to run dictatorship have been able to to build the last decade and please listen to the people that he's just very dia and he said, you know groceries disagreeing with you, but i'll come back to you quickly, nobody's going to get to mr. clack because if you have a disagreement and you will down with the regime is as i was saying, many supporters, what does he in cuba, mr. clueback, what replaces it? and who replaces that? i'm from where? well, i think that's really the key question. the government has been able to take some

time or children's remarkably well educated solution. gregory is absolutely right. there are significant portions of the election that are still very loyal, not mention the armed forces, and those are forces. this is a black and white situation, but rarely, rarely are. i think that what we see is increasing ration an explosion of the space. and i think historically, what is the problem free time? energy leads to either civil war, united states and driven. she's very, very few people want to go down that route. i get every day with people, mostly there. so perhaps a bit separated from, from some elements. there is not of feeling in my view, in the selection style, for the total dismantlement of the system,

which has remarkable achievement and a latin american. and i think that is the problem. how would you replace what you move in general, rejection of the miami option. going back to 1958, there's general rejection of airing on one on the last 60 years because it's not any longer reducing the good. so i think that is the crisis. people on the island in my mind not wish to speak and blood in the streets. well, they neither do they wish to continue. asian, what they see is what they needed. and it is a agreement to disagree that setting in the notting heads i'm getting, but gregory, anybody else can come back to you nodding in agreement with what mr. pac says, but obviously the us themselves are sort of voicing their concern. and it's not necessarily that cuban people want a u. s. style of democracy. they've seen what us intentions can do in other

countries, and it's not great when it comes to what the world thinks democracy should be. where should the debate begin? if it's not in miami, and if it's not in cuba, where should it became i believe they're going to need to take place 1st and foremost between the cuban government, the american government to lift the embargo. i think that be that the keeping the embargo in place an incredible disappointment here in cuba, by people across the spectrum that biden did not quickly return to obama's policy of engagement. that is the key thing lift the embargo 1st. and then if cuba is not change, there is a different argument to be made. but i think the international community is very, very clear at the embargo has no moral basis and should be listed. and i would like to pose the question,

the most part. yeah. does she also think that the u. s. embargo be lifted immediately and unconditionally and then allow cubans on the island and cubans in miami to dialogue to make changes? because the remaining of that bar go maintenance or portraits and in fact, empowers hard line tendencies in the government and weakens, reform is tend to be i would like to know if i should be embargo be lifted. miss ty, the floor is yours. that's. that's your opinion. that people understand is not asking for the listing of the bible is asking for the end of the day to ship. and based on the end, the real gauntlet here is not between google and any other country. then we have gone from here is between the ship that for 60 years be repressing that given people didn't met in the human rights and that have got our bureau for i land into it and deeper, very, very deep and, and buried that crisis. and the people in this is say we can, we can,

we were able to save our country, but we need the end of 30 days, or should we need to read on to do it. and if it's actually, if it's very frustrating, julie sent you an to do foreign people that i believe that love that give people do what they call flip in all their dimension. that is not the principal one. we do not need any. it never be a should be doing that the take their ship and any government agile or so what we need to do that is we don't need that support of the free work for that. we don't that the people where demand and industry greg are, you want to come back on them? vast majority, a few winds and this is been shown. and many, many hole in the vast majority of cuban do not support to be worth embargo. i guess i'd like to refund. what does she think? but moreover, tens of thousands,

but even hundreds of thousands of people on the street is not necessarily people use a country of 12000000. so if you can get 100000 on the street, what about the rest of the population? i would say they want the embargo listed. i would say they definitely want fundamental economic change and eventually political change. but i think they want it done in a very slow pot files and, and secure way again list the us embargo. this is obviously intervention in the sovereignty of country. and actually it wasn't. why does every other country in the world say the embargo should be like, i spoken to western diplomats who say the embargo hinders changing cuba? so i and others what changed? and i think they should say, i think years and operate burns, they publicly, i would like the bible ministration to immediately return the position of obama and proceed by listening to margaret. i would like to say that because i would say, and i'm here in havana, the vast majority of cuban wants be embargo listed to date miss tire. while the bus

my o this have you been on this? they were asking for freedom of for the end of 30 days, or she and i know human rights founder and human rights has been met by the, by the given the goods or super 60 years in my conference and to keep making this conversation about congress of united states and not about de may conflict that is taking place to day to day in my conflict, which is going to be doing better with the military power cracking down on the, on, on our own and pieces that were asking for freedom. well, i mean that, that's all that was that they were one of course you just hit you, you just tell you what the guy will say. he was not talking about the demand for cleaning up the given people. he was talking about the stuff that he wants to go all the county doing all their since we're talking about cuban, and this is among cuban and cubans. she had me that brought that go on

a role in this, in this conflict because we are the, the, the most and we are the ones that i asking for, we don't, and all that we need is solely dyed the, for the international putting the national get with that very simple demand. okay, miss, but let's go to all to a and to mr. to pack that, because obviously we one day with all of the disturbances on the streets with the international condemnation that's come with it. how serious or how precarious is president miguel diaz canals position right now? how do you view it? well, i think it's very dangerous to spark speaking on the black and white firms. there is a crisis. there is an explosion of ire among the large percentage people frustration among the whole people who put this in black and white term dictatorship against

people is really not very helpful and doesn't reflect in the way the last 2 years of the experience of the other historian i'm baffled by this of black and white. we have is a real, real issue on human rights and terms. how would you build that? well, you will have to have bio or violence and we did. this is going to be the people rising or one again, government and therefore it's just simply not on. when the work about collect mr. click click because it seems that president canal of the canal doesn't want to have a dialogue. right now the moment he's just blaming america. everything that's going on in his island on, on his island. so what stage can there be any to any dialogue on who makes the 1st move? you know, if biden's government in the us has maintained the position from his predecessor,

how does how, how do you move that the line to start and negotiation? yes, i think that's a very for question. of course they what they always do, which is blame, uniquely the american. this is along the 2nd on the war, super tiny country. there's no doubt that the impact, particularly for access to the national being quickly problem for the state of, for the last 62 years. but that doesn't mean that the same that they are the only problem when you're only 18 and competent on many levels. while there are many, many achievements which are, are many terms at the same time at the moment we see more failure than they believe . so he has, he has opened himself up to dialogue with a wider spectrum of relation. but as long as, as long as the,

the embargo is in place, it's extremely difficult to see how one can move forward, because there will be no resort patient to use the mano, who will be very strong, is obviously a subject that we will have to revisit unfortunately, we have run out of time that i think that we will be coming to the story again. and again, i'd like to thank hold of my guest for joining me on this edition of inside. so it's a great off sky rosette, maria pyre, and how color pack, thanks so much. and of course, thank you for watching your course. can see this program again by logging onto our website. is there a dot com or the further discussion gateway facebook page, facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter handle . there is at a j in find story for me. so robin and the inside story team. thanks very much. for your time and your company, the news

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