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to my, you know, human rights abuses, him and china. chinese authorities deny human rights abuses a be committed and say a bully caught will not succeed. the i are c headed by thomas park says the olympics should not be influenced by politics in john dot co preparations continue . china has pledged to deliver a green and inclusive winter olympics, but how many people will be invited or choose to attend remains in question. katrina, you are the 0 young jackal paging. ah, hello, that is out there. and these are the headlines. more than $1700.00 people are still missing and western europe after severe flooding of east asian people have died in germany, which is experiencing its west. whether it is all set in decades, steadfast and has worn out from bonds in germany. people are basically locked up in
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that area. you could see the extent of the damage. dia, a visibly very strong current of water has damage, houses has damage, roads has damage, shops, everything was close. people were really looking for food and some water to drink. so supplies are running short pretty quickly. and as you can actually really feel, when you talk to people there, they will very much caused by surprise, by this immense amount of water. homo floods and landslides have killed at least 6 people, and ne and turkey houses, they're collapsed and cars were swept away and read a province on the black sea coast. mudslides also destroyed t plantations. as you can see, the rain that has blocked access to dozens of villages and cut power supplies. south africa has devoid thousands of additional troops to stop rioting and the week long unrest. it's already killed 117 people. losing no, continues, inquisitor in town, after the jailing a former president, jacob's duma,
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lebanon's outgoing prime minister, designate saunter, really stepping aside after the president refused to approve his suggestive cabinet . the country has now been without a functioning governance 9 months and is facing an unprecedented economic crisis. if you appears regions are sending fighters to the north to support government treats their raise concerns at the conflict with to grind rebels may be on the verge of escalating again these trading stations. victoria has begun a snap 5 day locked down. not means about 40 percent. of the countries population is now on the stage. i'm order. the states confirmed 18 cases of the virus or fall . the infection said from sidney, which is also seeing a rise in cases despite now heading into the 4th week of locked down. well, those are the headlines. i'll have more news for you here on algebra after the stream to stay with from talk to al jazeera,
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we wrong, did you want the un to take and who stopped you? we listen. you see the whole infrastructure and being totally destroyed. we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories that matter on our sierra. ah, i am semi ok annual watching the stream on this episode we are talking about south africa's 3rd covert wave, sweeping the country. and this week, protests of riots are to an additional challenge for medical staff already under pressure, trying to tackle the highly infectious delta of variance we intended to open on, on friday, the 24th of june. and when we saw the situation in the hospitals and how full things were getting, we were forced open on the thursday the night before. ever since then, it's been one bit gets get in. the next patient comes in,
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which i am prioritized resources in which i need. sure. so we turn around once a patient is discharged, the way the bed, the room gets clean and gets back for the next patient is done within an hour, but it's because it's a saturday and need for beds and for treatment and oxygen during the show today to talk about the cosy crises in south africa, dr. linda gal dotty aca, don't to doctors. it's great to have you. i wish it was under better circumstances . doctor linda gal. welcome back to the stream. please tell audience and remind them pretty well. i want you day. they say me and the director of the day's min teacher, a chevy, st. mechanical try list research based here in south africa. most recently involved in quite a lot of the covet vaccine research. get to have he thought to walk up, introduce yourself to the stream audience. he s m a family practitioners treating lot of covert patients on the front line and mostly volunteer medical directive of
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give to give us doing lots of support work for code patient and working networking with other n jose and have done some vaccine child work for private exceeding child center. thanks for being with us. and dr. dr. and welcome to the stream. please introduce yourself. try international viewers from dr. o and the representative to south africa. and my way most trading was around supporting the government efforts in public health in general. but this time, particularly focusing on covered 90 response. so there's, you know, when we have 3 doctors on the street, we can only be talking about covet 19. they are here at your disposal. they are ready to answer your questions about the delta. various about coven 19 about 2nd ways, thirds weight, whatever you want to know, they will answer it right here. put your questions like in the comment section. be part of today's show, dr. young, let me start with you festival. this. this 3rd wife for south africa. you
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are dealing with you on the front light. can you give us an example of what your days are? like? holidays are not the day. it's actually the day in the night. if you really think about it, you try and squeeze in a bit of sleep at the end of your shift. i'm in private practice. but as i mentioned, i'm part of some various dr. culver groups which we set up in the 1st wave. so the days a long day, you don't know where you can encounter your practice and how many covert patients will be coming. we see patients from various spectrums of the economic economy. so those that can afford a call the testers that cannot. and i want to put the context into that because most of the patients and there's a term, it's banded on p u i was the patient and the investigation will meet certain criteria as a suspected positive covert case, but they need to be tested. so those who can afford some private facility to test
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themselves, those are the ones that are presented symptoms. we will test them to be easy. but the challenges for those patients that i see some of my clinics is the ones that cannot afford detection hesitant and need to go to govern facility. some of them will go there. some are reluctant because of the cues. and the fact that the not positive they feel they may get infected in the queue. so that's how it start. we investigate them, you'll get the results coming. they have to go home and isolate until the results come back. we have to check the size of the family if to get a more comprehensive assessment of the patient than you would normally do. when the results come back, we have to be quite vigilant as to who's positive. we could have been a false positive for, i mean a false negative rather who may need to be seen again. those that are positive. there is a whole protocol of management, which didn't actually takes a quite different cause. some live mild disease will have moderate live severe
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and you've cut into your inflammatory marcus wanted to then get the oxygen levels monitor been sent to you every day. so we have a group of doctors in my clinics and kind of them. i'm hearing the, the, the importance of the detail of treatment. but if everyone getting this kind of treatment not to go. no, because you got this sounds to me like rich people's treatment. oh no. so basically that, that's, i tried to differentiate. i'm, i mentioned those at goes to the state clinic, right? you will not get the kind of private treatment. they will go to the state clinic, but we in our group we will try and follow them up as much as possible to have protocols in place for them. you call me back when you get sick. the minutes you deteriorate symptomatic, we always call you on day 7 or you call us back. we will decide whether you can get into a government facility. so i was getting to the point when they started to turn was
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when the danger signs coming up in the 2nd week or 3, call it try to kind storm. that's the danger and you see it. okay. well, let find a bit for them can to be managed at home, will reach a patient that you spoke about. yes, we can manage to some degree as you had interviewed somebody in the end, you said that i know they set up some facilities. so they to take the burden off the hospital. ok, but you'll probably put your price per, per patient. the majority of them, i think we missing them. they're not getting that access. and while i'm near big metro center like janice book and how thing those are the out in the rural areas, they have very little access. so we don't know how many we missing that we not testing. we don't know how many that are tested, positive or not getting the follow up care that so we don't omni we losing. and so we don't really have a clue of actually the actual spectrum of the damage the desired us is causing. we have statistics, we have the figures that have, let me have a conversation with dr. linda go. if i may, i will come back to you, not willing to get a visual delta very and we were ready for we knew, let's say,
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let me, let me rephrase this. we knew that would be variance boat was south africa ready for the delta variant? what's the damage being done right now? yeah, so send me, i think the be to very into which of course world famous the thought to come out of south africa. you know that cortes quite by store. you know, i think particularly because there was a recognition that this was far more transmissible and sprayed so quickly and really contributed to an extraordinary 2nd way. now we didn't know there was this delta variant occurring in other countries. in particular, india, we saw the devastation in india in many respects, i guess it was, we knew it was just a matter of time. and so mid april, we started to feel like there was a change in the epidemic. there was just the same that the disease look slightly
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different. many people were getting infected. we recognize the 3rd wave was coming and of course that was the delta way. yes. i'm going to bring in here an additional voice start. does he have what he does on the show, talk to should be muggy, talk a little bit earlier, and about the preparedness of south africa for multiple ways. 51. this is what he told us at the abilene. i have a luck. unfortunately contributing to the number of cases since i've been experience in the country. it's a consequence. i was taught jessica having left behind when it comes to the overtime team and particularly to high risk individual. yeah, so today just over 50 percent of people about the age of 60 vaccinated, but overall population less than 7 percent of individual pizza single subject seen in addition to which were planning. but the god to ensuring that our healthcare
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facilities were adequately equipped for a decision. so just making sure it gets out to in the number of care facility, it's been completely overwhelmed and they're being in adequate numbers in many senses, to ensure adequate care of individuals. that are being asked mr. to cope with 90 doctor owing that that doctor mattie said and talked about being overwhelmed as the representative of the w h. o. in south africa. you are there to help support the health ministry of south africa. why would another adult to say that the health system was being overwhelmed? are you seeing that too? yes. festival. let me say that the indeed the data variant is really spreading quite a lot and he does become the dominant variant about his driving the same with but we have good provincial differences. the, the, the biggest ups h we,
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the data variant of course is, is in house team. the other provinces are also increasing. but at this row at 8 and i have not reached yet, the state we're taking has reached indeed the hotel. there has been as easy his system as been overwhelmed in terms of the number of patients required in care. this situation was most oh, of course we did a read and coming in which is either transmissible. this situation is as a result of that. but just to comment on the issue over the vaccines as well. yes, there's been a delay in terms of the the out of the vaccine. unfortunately, few a few challenges with the bitter variant area on when some of the local studies had indicated that the, the, as indigo was not as, as was no,
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it was not as protective. i was, if, oh, if you could just, i guess the bit of a didn't, didn't really work well, we did it. it was the astrazeneca vaccines didn't really work on, on the very of, over the south africans were, were experiencing at that time. so that put you put south africa back. that was a blow at dr. lynn's. galahad? yes, yes, definitely. i think say me, we, you know, we took that low on the chin. we had, you know, 1000000 vaccines ready to go, particularly for our frontline, how kid work is inside me. i had dated to show that they would, this was not as effective against the beat variant. and so at that point, we took the decision to roll out jane j single dose, which we did have some data on for health care workers. but we have been on the back foot for acquisition of, of covet 19 vaccines. and we should've been in
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a better position before the 3rd wave we knew was coming. and unfortunately, we're behind in terms of vaccinating should be said the to my be said less than 7 percent. i think it's around 3 point some why the population has been back. sedated so far, so we have a long way to really long way to go. but i'm going to put this thought to you from youtube. if i may, on youtube, are audience what you're right now. a wondering, as they're watching on al jazeera, the news of riots protests that wondering if those gatherings are they going to be super sweaters, dr. yak up your thoughts? yes, most definitely. there would be subscribers. i mean, we've had of the spread event before in our country, and this is like a, i mean, if somebody's put it on social media, the divider smith smiling at these events because you've got the life opportunity and doesn't have to do much work. so this is just adding, so besides the,
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the comments paid by respected colleagues, rice opportunities for the vidas spit. and coming back to the point that other mutations with most definitely occur if we do not continue or other to our best to try and curb these kind of things. because mutations can take place in many scenarios. with a lot so far beyond, it'd be more beauticians, there's more than vaccines that can cope with it. so we, we like in a melting pot here. we don't know and i would, the perfect storm is just not correct. and the scenario painted earliest to a doctor's day's work. what are the hospital days and what the health care workers are green on a daily basis. and now some of the health care workers have been looted in right. so there's less health facilities less mentioned the largest transport is give me i would like to i would like to show that the company very tiny took video. it didn't take it for us. you took video of 100 and take it for you. yeah. and you probably
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see it for the insurance company, but you know, it wasn't for me, it wasn't for me just from a colleague that just sent to us. let's tell us what we're seeing. we're going to play the video right now, because we talk about the rights and the protests we're talking about with delta vary and heidi infectious. let's play the video, will show it and then talk us through, what are we seeing? got the aka. this is a practice in quasi luna, and this is exactly what's happening. they were getting looted, broken in the middle of the night. and that's the scenario that that took place there. but things came to the broke through the next morning. the doctor was given the information in a no go area, couldn't visit the, it was getting pictures by the stuff that went there and defeat it had been completely ransacked. to say me, we are seeing this, this happening all around the country, particularly as you say didn't a, and they,
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you know, cause the you and how ting areas where, you know, distressingly clinical facilities are being deleted. and this is obviously the very worst thing that could happen at this time. and vaccine seemed to have had to close down, which of course is the worst scenario for where we are in terms of the curve. 19 big wave i think so. so i just took, i mean for me in did this has brought it much back in terms of the dispos took of it. i just, i don't, it's also affected essential health care services because us are victims. even those that have to take up a daddy fuse for diseases like it's a v like d, b. so the, the essential services of health care services that are supposed to be provided have also been affected. and then in addition to that,
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the livelihoods of the people in those as will also be affected. so not only is they putting people at risk in terms of, of it in terms of b superscript, but also in terms of the very ability to be able to take care of people. and what if you increase, if you've ever ability, in terms of them not being able to have a job or last week, this is a mix of the impact of coffee eat much harder on the affected community present. so rama poses, spoke about the impact like you know, you to, you 3 daughters are the impact on trying to tackle the delta very up right now in south africa. and what the riots is, and the protest is the impact that they're having on that aim. this is him from just the dale to ago, is to present that are sick, cannot get medication from pharmacies,
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food does not reach supermarket shelves. and health workers cannot go to work. our vaccination program has been severely disrupted, just as it is gaining momentum. i want show this tweet that was sent to us from your nothing claudser. and she talks about the dakota in lockdown regulations exasperated crisis. south africa has been grappling with for years. the rate of unemployment has been the cause of anti investment of race based policies that the government is determined to embrace is a political angle that to her, to her tweet. but what people are saying when i've been watching those interviews of right isn't protestors on the streets, is that they are poor and they have had enough. and then there's coven 19 as well. they can't work that businesses have been to the live. is it been impacted? it's just layer upon layer upon layer of disaster thought to leave the go.
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yeah, i think stay me, you right. i have the same that we sitting on a pad a cake. you know, and, and these no doubt that the country is, as we say in south africa. yeah. hurtful. which means, you know, we kind of had enough and, and unfortunately, you know, whilst we have on the one hand, a how system met, overwhelmed in the government doing what they can to try and contain, through npi the restrictions, the lockdown to cetera. this is just fueling that seems of lack of control, lack of ability to have an impact on their own destinies. and i think this is what really, you know, resulting in people feeling out of control and, and adding to that and that receipt. amanda, if we go back to the house, i say there is a way, there is
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a way out of this and it's vaccines. it's like how fast can you get africans vaccinated? this is vicky. she is a researcher, and she's like a little bit early about vaccines and rolling out the vaccines and where south africa is right now, have a listen to have a look. i think things definitely some vaccine hesitancy in south africa. however, now that we have the vaccine here, i think it is definitely reduced. i think right now our limiting fact is a the stock availability, but also infrastructure that's available to actually back garage and mx. and 8 people to the most likely have to move that seem to seem daily. however, currenty, unfortunately with the rise that are happening in south africa at the moment that has really reduce the number of se insights available all the way down to a massive reductions in the number of estimates for every day 30. i can what difference? because this make to your, your patient can so that will make
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a huge difference because obviously that change the cornerstone to try and control the panoramic. but just to comment on the radio. ready that we've had colleagues of applied to the vaccine centers to meet the requirements. and surely a far more vaccine center can be set up. and the number of dr. grouping's in i p as it is independent practitioner organizations, are willing to become vaccine centers. the goodness, sure, regulations and rules to set up the section said there's a pretty bit of a lot of us have been involved in clinical trials before. we've given vaccines for years in our practices, a child to track seen an ongoing travel vaccines. but again, there's just too much bureaucracy in our country and even the previous argument about leah upon you can understand it. we just don't help ourselves. we just make things a lot more difficult. and i think he should be loosened up. we should be a lot more collaboration between private and public so that we can really get this thing going much faster. and everybody's keen. i mean, from the 1st day from over
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a week, number 1, march 26. last year, the health care workers have been at the forefront not only in terms of looking the private practices to be willing to give all the time. but this just hasn't been enough coming back for them. and the bureaucracy is just been free. but if you have the end of the health ministry, can you cut down the oxy? well yeah, i know that not to be a no doctor i shifting uncomfortably and he said no, that is not possible done. i knew that the, the, the, the department of health is waking quite a lot towards speeding up the whole process store. does that mean issue? i mean, how, how far, let me, let me it about it. okay. looking 1st of all at ensuring that the adequate vaccines
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to be able to be rolled out. secondary looking at the, the, ensuring that they built the, the, the, the demand to be able to speed up even to get people accepted. that's why the even opening up nowadays that people who can even walk who have been registered to walking to get vaccinations, but also trying to be with the system to increase of sites for vaccinations. so the more vaccine would be, would be provided as a moment, or do they have opened up the vaccination to to those were at least to the registration to those were $55.00 to, to do, to, to 49. having already started the 50 and above. so yes, the, the, the, the process will be faster because will have much of the impact. if we do speed up
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the vaccination, maybe for this particular wave, we might not experience the benefit of having rode out to the faxing. but we know we as all come new video and super, but you may, i may be billed before the wave so we did. it will be a full flash where we do. yeah. i've learned from all of you, but never sent doctors that have been on the stream as the past 16 months is. there will be another way i want to ask you right now, and it's a yes or no, or one comment question dr. o and how optimistic are you right now about vaccines? the road out across south africa. one, what i'm reasonably optimistic if we knew have vaccine surprised if, if, if you're on the how optimistic all is right now. i'm not optimistic because it's not the only if the doctor over there with judy spect is talking about the
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historically and now the process is just too slow and i can't see anything working at this time. i'm not going to say your candle, doctor linda gal. we need vaccines that, that may constraint, we need these vaccines to come into country and you know that that's, that's really the biggest ask. yeah. thought is thank you so much. talked to linda gower, talking jack of dr. appreciate you being on the street today and sharing your expertise about the close it 19 delta very and in south africa and the impact that he's having watching everybody the next time, ah, nuclear gods die and disproportionate numbers on not ever leaving behind widows who
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