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1900 is sweeping across indonesia at alarming speed. it's overtaken. india is asia pandemic hotspot. the country recorded more than 34000 new infections and 1300 deaths on monday. although that's down from saturday's peak of nearly 52000 cases, this chart from the university of oxford, our world and data shows the numbers going up dramatically over the past month. researchers believe the real figures could be much higher because of low testing rates. the highly infectious delta variant is driving the surge. indonesia has the highest cobra, 1900 fatality rate, in se asia communities are relying on volunteers to bury relatives who died at home . makes it graveyards, are working round the clock. hospitals are turning away patients because they don't have beds or oxygen. some are even telling people to bring their own oxygen supplies. the most likely i came here from sins on the hospital. i feel 10 oxygen

so induced last night and he to buy 10 more cylinders. only 6 percent of indonesia population is fully vaccinated against cobra. 1900. the country is relying on china's saddleback job, which appears to be less effective. $114.00 doctors have died this month despite 95 percent of health workers being inoculated. the u. s. is donating 4500000 with darren of axioms, some of which will be used as booster shots. the government has banned non essential travel over the muslim holiday. very bill of ha, to try and curb new infections. ah, all right, let's bring in our guess. joining us on skype from jakarta. irma, he, diana, co founder of lap or cove at 19 an independent corona, virus data initiative. from brisbane, australia. dr. dicky, put him on an epidemiologist and ph. d. candidate on global health security at griffith university and also from jakarta, bumble hurry, morty, a public policy analyst, a warm welcome to you all. and thanks so much for joining us on inside story today

. irma, let me start with you. many believe that the governments data doesn't reveal the extent of this cobit 19 crisis. what do you say to that? are the numbers being under reported? yes, it is. so we're as a citizen, reporting a data in this. yeah, actually we found we collect data from the grassroots level and this so that we saw that many like for example, many deaths are not being count. ash corbett, 90 in depth. this is a real problem. and we also try to look at to the official a data at the city level and at the provincial level level and then at the central level. and unfortunately there is a discrepancy of the number of death coffee at night been death. a deva that are released by a beast left different level of government,

the city level, provincial level and central level. so this call it 9 didn't data transparency remain here. it's a challenge for indonesia and s b. you know that data is one of the key important element to tackle this pandemic because without having a real data, without having that data that is accountable, that is reflecting that situation on the ground. i don't think that the decision maker could make an acid and based upon how the decision maker, in order to control the plan, to make bumble. we're seeing these heartbreaking scenes play out in different parts of indonesia right now, whereby you have people being turned away from hospitals, hospitals not having enough beds, hospitals not having enough oxygen. they're being oxygen shortages. just how

stretch are the hospitals right now and from your vantage point, is the medical system close to collapse? well, i think it is actually basically sounds already collecting. yeah. we now have to add more or less. we don't so many now cannot accept non asians because they are increasing the capacity for vision. he will on the treatment. yeah, it's clearly and not under that. you're also begin to see that many, many more people died while they're doing their own in the independent isolation in their home. so many of the community health generally see who you're at work with on the through the monitor down and to bring them to the hospital

either getting worse now. and i have to worry them well because they didn't bring them to the hospital because it goes up and died in the ambulance on the fine can accept them. in fact, they know that yes, it's a 1900, almost 2000 people waiting at you when inside and outside the emergency room, there are almost 1500 people in waiting to get into. so you can imagine that many actually don't even bother or they just go around in the ambulance or in, in the hypo tried to flight later they might be any openings and somebody else dickie, where do things stand currently when it comes to testing? are there enough,

coven 19 tests that are being done to get an accurate count of the number of cases . on the monday since the beginning of the front of me, indonesia, the man in the low rate of testing and pressing capacity. and it's shown by the we can see the, the test was supposed to be the rate of the country since the beginning of under me up to now we've seen always above 10 percent. and it's mean and another level also regarding our community transmission is since april after now still in this community transmission and it's me in the county and many of age and in english, i cannot defy. and also not only the infection cases, but also the class, then it's put the can the informal supervision because then me see the what

you might say. and so they say that the, the government figure is not reflected the real condition in the community. and the main reason of these is how to find the it was if we cannot find the in the friction, then how come we can cut the transmission because i solution and current that is the main site that we have to do to cut the stance mission and the other things is that we face. now we've faced this very serious threat, which is the delta bar, which is, is not only by we cannot only dealing with the restriction, but we have to combine with barely extreme, not only 6 follower brought us thus that just thing, thing thing something the testing capacity but for indonesia, i, i had extreme testing more than 1000000 a day. at least the find the, the,

the infection among the community for your organization has been involved in collecting data related to cobra. 1900 cases across multiple sectors of society. let me ask you, what are the numbers like when it comes to people who died from covered 19, who are in self isolation? right, that's a great question. i think it's we collect this data based on to social media and mass media report and also at our local net works. and then we try and we get trying relations to make sure that we don't have double data to make sure that the data is accurate. enough and since you, until now, we recorded that there are at least 112 people who died during the self isolation at their home, as mentioned by them,

a bad so many families, so many people. so many passions have been turned away from one to another hospitals and resolved thing that they has to stay at home. they have to go around finding a medical help and then let them let some of them died at home without any help. and i wanted to emphasize that the number of the health care workers in indonesia who died from office 19 is also very big. so, so far, all for the past one and a half years, we recorded that more than 1440 helped workers of ross indonesia who guide from august 19th and this month alone. in july we are not yet in the end of july. so this month on the,

there were $220.00 for health care workers who died from corbett 19. so this is very, very disappointing. this is a very sad situation, norma and i made that, let me just sorry to interrupt you, but let me just ask when it comes to that point about the record number of health workers who have died due to covert 19. i've seen the reports that there have been doses and darren has sent by the us to indonesia and that the plan is to, you know, give them a darren of ac, seen as a booster for the health care workers. why have the health care workers been so vulnerable and will more be done to protect them going forward? i think dr. dickie would be the great person to answer this question, but let me just jump in very shortly. i think because the transmission from the virus, the magnitude off the pad of me, it's to way too big for us this make so many patients comes through the

hospitals. so the hospital, many hospitals across jeff i and bali island, they're all full. so can you imagine when the hospital for recovery night, the patient, you can imagine the transmission for the virus around inside the hospital. and then the number of health worker also at the race in faction to offer the virus because they are very in and, and they are constantly continuously helping the passion. the patients are in the hospital. so there are very pro and, and there are where we in a race of infections. and also of course we need to know the, the presence of delta very. and as for the fact in, i guess dr. gate, would you mind sure would be the right answer. yeah, all right, dickie. let me go to you then and throw the same questionnaire way. first of all will more be done to protect health care workers in indonesia. why is the situation

so bad for them right now? so seen actually almost 90 percent of our co workers already got these, sent a fax in 6 months ago more than 6 months ago. then i can see the analyze for the, from the light, the situation that seems this of a box in decreasing the effectiveness 50 effectively the again, the are in protecting be the had to look us. so it's mean that's very important point. and this analyze is related to the finding from the but still not published yet. but the 2nd one if seems the it's sin of foxy in less event the if activity is less effective again the new party and especially the party. and so that's why i'm the said that one of the damages you know, the show who can find the government since last month. this our

will cause a need more protection. and in the situation, we need this wooster because of my order dimension less. correct, because they are very for now, but because the number of these facially seen creasing and of course during the situation x, how's the you know a day that will they will be a point of this weakness when they feel it's how's it goes then these, these these transmission will be easy to get and, and of course, as the one also the demolition in the world will contribute to the w h. your definition now to development. the definition of i had also and the higher born i can say that it. what then see of these still the very end in transmitting through these airborne mac commission when i was very effective and,

and that's why we can see from, from which impression in nisha is even from in, in, in the household in one. let's say one room in martin the the all in a heartbeat, one, almost 100 percent off. secondary i take great. so you can then see what the model is already mentioned. the number of these breakthrough in a friction among how killer, because he's increasing and when the, the date number. so again, that's why this protection is very important. not only draw from one by the provide, then the nation, but also strengthening the effect and control. and especially the percent protection equipment among why you have vaccination rates been so low in indonesia . and also officials have indicated that they want to vaccinate around 3 quarters of the population by early next year. based on what you've seen so far. is that

even possible? i think i have to disagree with your assumption from battery because it's, you know, they just mentioned rate in indonesia is quite high. i think we have done more than 41000000 nation. 60000000 already on a 2nd shot. but the problem is we are not using the most effective oxygen we are using. she was reached in later studies in by wendy not effective, again the delta area. and therefore there is a need to we actually made the health worker and those application. and i think about 2 days abroad, they already started leaving the job more. they're not through jenny, dr. strong, the union, indonesia. and then we're going on right now. i think about

a 1000000 people between 800-0021 point 1000000 people. so in terms of oxygen agent and then the job is, i think i'm wrong. yeah. but we have a very big mission, but we don't get good. i mean the most effective proxy and how many trying to then we guide that by getting why several more. they're not, and then it and now i guarantee planning that we started for bills at risk back. we have to wait, how do we but i'm on my on that i can, i gotta manage that are quite good back. you just have to clean up the mass like the president community or how much of a problem is the spread of misinformation in indonesia when it comes to combating

the virus? i mean, has that been a major obstacle? that's part of an a major off obstacle. so be actually, i would say we have 2 different misinformation or misinformation and dish information. so we have a 5th so many missed information from the beginning off the pen to me. but also there is no specific and there is no strong a ford from the government to address this information this talk. so it's been around since the past 5 off the plan to be here. and then the secondly, unfortunately when there is no action to address this information to actually i could see the situation, it's getting worse, actually some off the form and represent that. they've actually also mentioned a non scientific, a joke that doesn't necessarily they do that,

which makes public even in the confusion. like for example, we are a very strong community because we are there be a real lead that we are, we will not get to ask because off it and then we have so many local tribunals toward that would make us stronger if a bit against the virus and so on and so forth, which all of them would not base on. there is no lack of there is like 5 basic base off of these situations. in fact, actually the government should implement the risk on many occasions that are a way in delivering or in giving a statement to public that way the public would a more alert into the real situations. and this also includes the problem off the transparency. so when the data is transparent and accountable at and when the

government published and called me on the and then pro more base situations, the real situation that would make public more educated on pad. and also it would raise the public awareness and also alertness about the situation. so this alert nice would lead the public to follow the health protocols that the government asked the big 2 adair on it. but also i wanted to make a comment on the vaccinations because based on their survey that we had, we had a couple of times the opposite survey. i'm checked in and see, but it's only limited in the capital city of indonesia and the findings. we found that people are still of those who are still happy, that even though only a one off the jack populations are very small numbers. but it's still matter

because we need to make sure that all of the population is facts in there that but this one 3rd of the population, they are still has it. then you get the fax it and because of the how little issue and then the advocacy matters and then the side effects and so on as of what so there's been a big homework by the government that they have to address the situations in this way that they have to make sure the advantage off vaccination that the, the benefit of action is set up where you in the race. so i would say we need promotion. so we need serious a combination of both factory and him and also the government all wish mentions about heart immunity, hurt me. they had immune day. it's been going around since the 1st time we have the facts in. and ashby mentioned that indonesia is one of the fastest com 3 who wrote

that will also actually nick and i agree in some numbers. yes it is. but the way, how does this number does this number extract this enough, are getting the more the most vulnerable people, the most vulnerable group. that is very detrimental, in order to make sure that the whole population or most population will get the immunity. because when we wanted to fax in bourbon, wanted to build the need the, the population, heart immune irma. you need to make sure erm i'm, i'm sorry to interrupt you, but we are starting to run out of time. and i just wanted to ask dickie another question. here, dickie, there had been can cern before that gatherings over the reed and fit their holiday might accelerate the number of infections in indonesia and authorities had tried to ban people from returning to their home towns. my 1st question to you is, was enough done at that time. now there is concern that people may try to travel or

gather during the read the how holidays and i wanted to ask you how concerning is that at a time when cases are surging as much as they are it will very, very in, in serious in the implication of the, our under mr. region, because now we are approaching our pick up our cook and in, in the same time we are now facing this delta 40 which we know is very effective in class. pass me there among the people even in very even the people who already fully vaccinated. so it's mean both of them. can we also infect that. so then adoring the ead. if dawn do enough restriction or give the said the literacy to the community that the mobility, the really she and i and in the nation shouldn't be mean mice or limit and we will

face and others should case of these, you know, not only in that, but it will accelerate the number of people who need more money in hospital and also people dying because now, you know, it's already where they put and i will because the most one number one is i was already the x was due to the slave fighters because for almost 16 minute in silence. the me because the low of the space thing and facing capacity. so then without knowing, so we, we are now in reading know the situation. so if people now move and without enough control, then the most for number one will be easy to get the fact that especially in now we will see already seen the jolly now in roller are a number of cases is increasing. so when they move the code, they go back to their home on the, on the problem will be spread more faster than,

than, than one. what, what's the major before? so again, i do hope that government will limit the localisation, especially not only because of the is this, you know, on a, but of was because the, the, either in the side that the, our, how for silly these already. well, so this is, this is very satisfied ation regarding the all right, well we have run out of time, so we're gonna have to leave the conversation there. thank you so much to all of our guest. irma heat, ayana, dickory body mind and bon bon had more to and thank you for watching. you can see this and all of our previous programs. again, anytime by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. our handle is at a j inside story for me. mm hm. a jim jim,

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