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you can watch or english streaming live and i get 2 channels plus thousands of our programs award winning documentary and get me to a subscribe to. you choose dot com forward slash al jazeera english. ah. hi. i'm from. yeah. ok. welcome to the strain today we're talking about slavery, reparations for mac colonizers, and what potentially the payment of reparations could do in terms of institutional racism and racism around the world have a look at my laptop, just a reminder about the transatlantic slave trade. this is a timeline from the transatlantic slave trade database. those play ships that you see crossing from the african continent and back through to the caribbean and new and north america. they are portuguese and british, and french at spanish,

from the netherlands, from america, gives you an idea of the height of the antics slave trade. what it meant, an estimate of between 12 and a half 1000000 people, and maybe up to 20000000 people from the african continent were enslaved. so 2 questions that always come up when say we reparations and talked about one, nothing to do with me to do if my government, i was around the time. i'm not responsible to. it was a long time ago. what other questions would you like to put to, i guess the comment section is right here on youtube can be part of today's discussion. whenever politics is discussed in often, slavery and conversation is a habit for them discussed in terms of the past. i think it was a one time event occurred centuries justice is just a compensation check off is the reason why african people around the world live without protection of human rights. the reparations from off must be hillis taken

and must address. that is the global thinking realization of african people, people, african heritage, all over the world. rhetoric from off around justice and i must tre, committed agents to change mental, the systemic, and institutional policies to our legacy. what, what the most, most just crime against humanity. so i asked to talk about slavery reparations. we have read asked and the key chain ladies, it's a good to have you with us. very welcome to the stream. introduce yourself target audience. thank you very much. my name is very shepherd. i am a social historian and the director of the center for reparation research at university of the west indies here in the caribbean. and i'm one of the vice chairs of the united nation committee on the elimination of racial discrimination. get to have hello esther, introduce yourself to stream us. hi greetings. my name is ester, stanford casee, and i am a jewish consult, which is

a specialist injurious prudence for science and philosophy of law. i'm also the coordinator general of the stop them and give me c, we charge genocide, eco's side campaign on give me z is a case where healy word for african holocaust as the so good to have you talk to you more in just a moment, but 1st i have to great in the kitchen, the kitchen, welcome to the same, introduce yourself track level audience. greetings, tammy. my name is nicky g. i'm an attorney, i'm a activist, i'm an advocate and i am an author. i'm a founding member of the cobra. the national coalition of black reparations in america. and i'm an inaugural commissioner on the national african american reparations commission for let's start with the united nations. this is the human rights chief michelle by chalet on july, the 12 making a deep connection between the slave people. i'm reparations, and what reparations actually means. there is an urgent need to confront the legacy

of enslavement. the trans atlantic slave trade. clearly some and successive racially discriminatory policies and systems and to seek repository justice despite some initiative towards truth, seeking a limited form of reparation including memorization acknowledgements, apologies under jason. research could not find a single sample of a state that has comprehensively reckon with the past or accounted for its impact on the lives of people of african center. they at guess i, i just stated that timeline. it wasn't even the entire timeline of the transit late it trans, the antics slave trade. but from let's say, 1500. so the 16th century, right up until the 19th century. people were tropic africans with traffic. and then does the sense of nervousness about putting a point on?

how do you do that because that's what reparations is doing, isn't it? the key to you start class is much more than that as well. it's not just compensation for the us labor era for the fall of the a holocaust of the transatlantic slave trade, but least with respect to in the united states where everything that's happened since then layman era. the. 2 black cove pianos system, the chain gains sharecropping, the homestead, not being able to get the benefits of that of the g i. bill the red line gym call are part of the mass incarceration. all of these things combine the black white, our economic wealth gap, the shelters receive the educational inequity, the criminal punishment. so it is compensation for all of that combined. and i will say this no amount, no amount of financial compensation,

can it all compensate for every thing that african people worldwide throughout the diaspora have gone through. so will be the situation of a negotiated settlement. that's what we're talking about. we're not talking about conversation that it's going to fully completely and totally tone for everything that is happen. but it will be a step towards that necessary healing that we need as the continue to me. i take the position from international human rights floor and international humanitarian law that make it very clear that a comprehensive reparation strategy or program or settlement has to include multi faceted remedies including remedies of restitution. and of course, compensation has been mentioned. rehabilitation measures

a satisfaction. what's called symbolic reparations, and for me, most importantly, which is actually under, emphasized in the discourse on african reparations is guarantees of non repetition . how do we ensure that what has happened to us and continues to happen? does not ever happen again. you know, as people present doing a double take like a, of course, of course and slave people with that couldn't happen again. what looked guarantee be that you would need? well, it's not just about enslavement. actually. the, the crimes of the mind give me z continue to this day. we're talking about racism as a direct like a safe anti black racism. and it's specific form this app re phobia which toy and spoke to. and actually we're talking about colonization, neo colonialism. so there's

a whole range of violations and this possessions and displacements of african people around the world, which require repair. so restitution could be any number of things including the right to restoration of our own group rights, our own individual human rights, the right to nationality, the right to our homeland as opposed to being referred to as an ethnic minority. i'm just looking here, my, my laptop here for read a headline, the court world's attention to make apply to the seat, reparations from britain over slavery. and then ron says, underneath the story, posting this for oss, go get it. it won't change the past, but it could positively affect the future. wrong, get free. wrong get paid, and many people get it or panel is get it. and i'm sure lots of your listeners and your viewers. i guess it. but can i just say that this is not new?

jamaica has been on this path to see group plans or injustice for a long time. i think now that we are a part of a global movement, it is appearing as if this is something new. but remember, when we talk about reparation and the fight for freedom and liberation, and right, we have to talk about from the very moment of conquest colonization and slave meant the traffic you know and says, says the post colonial harm, the cash list, emancipation, all of these things have a long this move and has a long genealogy. and so we, it's a continuous movement toward aspect elements which has not yet happened. so jamaica, in fact, in 2009 for the national commission on reparation is called the come to know and can we come? there's

a regional commission and also jamaica part of that. and rest of her i have been carrying on the site for a very long time in jamaica, outside of jamaica that just wanted to see if not new, even though there's an intensification of the movement. because the more people say no, we're not going to talk to you the more we are insisting, yes, you must talk to us, and you must do what my colleagues have said. you are to do apologize, which has 3 dimensions. you accept responsibility, you commit to non repetition, and you commit to repair and we are waiting on all of those. and actually i want to just hop in for a moment if i can, because i want to agree 100 percent with my sister marie reparations is not new. in the united states, the concept did not drop from the sky. was part of the coach article in the atlantic magazine, the case reparation for even recently with nicole,

hannah jones and her 1619 project that talked about reparations in the new york times. operations is a long standing issue of international law, which the united states is actually participated in from the time of the end of the enslavement period. reparations were embed paid in the united states. they just weren't paying the black folks. they were paying really late owners for the last example, i will be jumping on that because you're absolutely right. and that's what i'm saying. it's been going on for very long time. we're just naming it different things. know, and what is ok if people come to the movement at different times, it's ok. we welcome everybody some big tense. all are welcome and all have all people have have a plea, but yet those who are paid, we're not our people. and therefore, we are pressing for company, but as

a part of a development plan, in the case of the carrier be. so i guess i have a question to ask and i'm going to office question via police pamela denise long. my question is the often in this reparations debate, this is been going on for a very, very long time. as you point out for me, it seems easier for people of color for black people to see why reparation for next . so not just money, but an entire class. ok, reparations. and it seems very difficult for people who aren't black to see this. i'm curious as to why he is pamela's, and she just does a whole list of why it's important. why reparations are important. have a list of have a look the united states must pay reparations for channel slavery to black. american descendants of us, slaves do to outright neglect and harmful policy is like red lining and mass incarceration, including biden's law. black americans have 110th the wealth of white americans as

a defendant of slavery and parent to an 8th generation black american. a just reparations plan for us includes cash payments for 400 plus years of stolen labor and racial trauma experienced by me, my child and our ancestors. so after i, as i predicted on getting the questions i mentioned, i was expecting at the top of the show i source we are talking many years ago peggy, we should not have to pay for some we had nothing to do with why is it difficult for people who are black to see that reparations have the place in 2021. after i think some people who all know of african ancestry have a problem with it. there are many so called white people and also an agent people and others who do get reparation. certainly in the work that i'm doing in europe.

one of the difficulties is it's already been mentioned this to humanize ation of people of african ancestry continues. it has been made systemic so in terms of legal systems, the education system which often mis educates and doesn't teach the truth about our history. even prior to enslavement. because all history didn't begin with enslavement. and there is a lack of recognition of how the world been created today, including all its inequality is as a result of this history that we are all speaking about. and in the u. k, it's actually not history because it was only in 2015 that the loan that was taken out by the british government to pay and slavers. in 1835 was finally repaid. so that means every generation, including of people, of african african diaspora, including african kirby inherited,

has also had to pay back by way of, you know, exposed expulsion of taxes. so this is a modern day thing and it is unjust. i don't see why it's so difficult to recognize that in the quality the injustice that is meeting out to african people. but yet we are expected to recognize the jewish holocaust, the dispossession a lack of grantee of indigenous peoples which we do. but then we are also human being to we must assert our right to be recognised, the thought, and also our right to a remedy, to repair that repair must be full. i'm wholly stick to, let's talk about repair reparations. how. how do they work that happen? some examples, institutions, organizations are doing their own reparations. they say yes, we were complicit. we understood that we benefited from the slave trade for to

slavery. and this is what we're doing in order to repair that damage. nikita give us some examples from united states. do you have any? so let me just say this 1st, the harms from the enslavement error and beyond what multifaceted, that's the committees must be multifaceted as well. just recently, there is a jurisdiction in the united states called evanston, illinois. they use a very creative way of our toning for the past. they use tax revenue from their legal cannabis industry to fund reparations or projects in the city issues that stem from the inflaming arid. specifically with respect to housing discrimination and what we call our bed lining that was very creative show shall i say, or this georgetown university. the reason why georgetown university stands today is

because of the sale by the just width, who own george. so university of over $272.00 black men, women and children and babies. ok to keep georgetown from going into bankruptcy. they have just called for one. i'm not sure 2000000 billions of money to satisfy to begin to try for that. but basically, it is the federal government, what the bill that is on the table today. what are the commission to study and develop reprobation proposals? rascan americans at which is the summer is the story. so shall we say it is the in to or every thing. you have the federal government, you have to say come in local governments, academic and religious institutions, and industries and corporations and property is safe. but they low that the federal government plate, and there are the situation that they must them, they,

they must apologize. they must compensate, you know, they must allow for that satisfaction. that is what is must be power mo, at this time. so let me share this with you. this isn't because kingdom of kush, we told the kingdom of kush we were doing this program. so have a look here. reparation should be paid. the vatican and the church of england an apology to the turn of felon artifacts, as well, from the country of origin. the indigenous native american tribes owes an apology and reparation. so many apologies. outside that should be made. what important is napoleon is that the starting point will do. you have to get a story 1st. it would be nice to get a sorry 1st. and that's how i started by talking about the different dimensions of open apology. but we can get no apology doesn't come, we wait on it and we don't do anything else. and, but i want to just reinforce the point that my colleague message says,

have me that this is not too long in the past. the told if something was done in the past, it was 2nd and so on. then you could even begin to think like that, but this is a continuing calm. we were talking about stolen artifact lou to that effect does not return. i know some people are talking about returning that, know some universities and yet we're talking about back a logical damage we're talking about has crisis where, where into the pandemic now. and we're seeing the effect of the lack of social infrastructure in place when was why it was extracted to ensure that places let britain became rich. we are talking about the legacies with which we are living. and we are things that they, that have not been paid, the accounts have not been spent, and therefore we have to carry on. i know to very, and i'm not debating with you. but what i am wondering about is,

i don't have this dialog alone. it can't be you, and the key to the community is of people who believe in reparations. what about the former colonizers? the caribbean states have written to us, and form a colonizers. sometimes they reply few, sometimes they don't. they do not want to have anything to do with reparations. how do you move forward? what do you do? that's why we, where we have to do what we're all doing in the movement globally. whereas saying yes, we are going to keep up the work. public education because one way to get people to move is to ensure your populations with you and therefore public education is quite important. and we are also saying that if everyone who has been colonized, if you are living in a call and i said, you must look around, you want to see the impact of what you are open did therefore you are, you do have go to within our space as well,

but we are trying to move the lives of people in the, in politicians who do not believe that reparations will ever be white. they just don't believe it. well, i think we do have a camera reparation. yeah. commission, you have a prime minister subcommittee and everyone is working. you have individual politicians, why them making some in for example, and you go by border prime minister brown is making inroads in terms of harvard and often so much of attractive. what i'm seeing here a t i e t is asking for restitution. this is what france did just time me the development of this country that has been such a beacon in times of revolution. show before right. though we can drop even if we get wary. i always see emancipation, quote, unquote, you know,

the end of africa, implement the amalgam is the to friend trees. our ancestors didn't even know when they were fighting and getting hanged and burned on everything that you do. and they kept on. our generation has a responsibility to pick the torch and carry on, even if you look difficult, i'm just going to agitate nikita, let me just see, this is from scott connie. just 2nd you, you can debate because you can't debate with amongst yourself because you all agree . got connie said, i don't think that pay the former color, colonize this financial compensation for historical pieces. seems unlikely nikita go ahead pick up. yeah, no, i just want to say we need to add to say, educate and organize the global movement. when are global movement right now, it is because a killer car, because of what. com inspired us in the united states, when i reparations movement was at a low, it inspired us in 2015 to form the national african american reparations commission

moto off the cara. com model, and it really created an absurd. what happened just recently with michelle bachelor in the un high commissioner in the like what it did was it called us secretary of state anthony brick in to issue a, an invitation, a formal indigent vacation for the un special rubber tour on contemporary form. so they show us racism to come to united states. so what happens in one area has an impact on what's happening in other areas as well. so it's, it's part of the global movement. i'm fortunate. we are near the end. we are not up to the decade of us decades, people of african descent. but what i remember the beginning of that day when we were all right. all right, give me just put play one more comment. this is from professor dorothy, he makes

a very convincing argument for reparations. he also mentioned something called red lining, which are audiences outside of the u. s. we need to know is it's about how seen discrimination applied often to people of color. here is his, as far as i'm concerned, very convincing argument. have a listen, have a look. the case for reparations, for black american descendants of slavery extends well beyond the atrocities and slave men. in particular, one has to take into account the nearly centrally long period of legal segregation in the united states. coupled with upwards of 100 massacres. that took place from the end of the civil war into the 1940s that resulted in massive loss of black lives. but also the seizure and appropriation of black property by the white jurors. and then in the post civil rights period, we still have ongoing atrocities including mass incarceration,

police executions of an arm, blacks, and sustained discrimination and housing credit and employment mark. i am going to say the key g farina, f u r fi is out. thank you so much for being on the street today. i will see you next time. take care everybody. the news news. news. news .

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