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news. news? news. news. ah. i asked me okay, you're watching the stream. today's episode he's looking at u. k. police forces, and what efforts they're making to address a racism. i mean, on this we, we ask our london bureau at our sierra to go out into the streets and all the black and brown people, what they experiences were in connection with interacting with the police. and what they told us of bumped into the details. what way they can not them so you know right away they. ready they treat you just for the sometimes of the things

you out of a day before the lot donald lifted, i was walking past iceland here and they stopped us to be in a tree. those mitchie and white people on the other side of the road. and the cooper full of about stopped the ox stem and i was doing our job. you still use us common you try to explain, go, try to explain. see more side gentlemen, to dave's outside my house, visiting me. and i'm a cara, a somebody, cuz he's got thankful and sunglasses and instruct you on. he's a working, managed to come to visit me. he got stopped by 4 policemen in a van. if you're watching on youtube, help me with a discussion today. is it possible for you k police to get rid of racism? the comment section is right here. i'll do my best to get your comments into the show. let's meet the guest hollow tea leroy camilla and sal funds for making time

for being on the stream. leroy acceptable, introduce yourself, tao audience who you are and what you do. yeah, i'm a retired superintendent. i did 30 years in the met and i was one of the found a members of the black police association. and i'm also having wrote a book recently composed my volkswagen c closing ranks. my last call frank being with us. can you welcome to the stream? introduce yourself, try international viewers. my name is kevin garza. i am the mother of fiancee mon garza and i when the free lunch campaign campaigning for just the for crying that she did not. thank you so much for being with us and south. welcome to the stream. hello. it's hey, you are what you do. why you important today's discussion? i experiment. hi everybody. i'm in the scene. i'm the regional director for london

i o p. c. i also lead on our organization's walk and our discrimination. i'm here to explain who we are, what we to, and the role that we play, and u. k. a leasing. i'm going to start right here on my laptop, looking at racial disparities in policing compared to white people. black people in the u. k. r. $8.00 times more likely to be searched $5.00 times more likely to face force by police. now, anyone who's luck brownies been growing up in u. k for the past couple of decades. you could easily think whereas that ages ago. that's not now. but if you look at the very bottom of that source, it's 2021 levi, what he's going on with a place right now. and interactions with the public, particularly black and brown. and my ne, while at the moment the topic policing, lack of minority ethnic communities are experiencing, especially young people,

is causing a lot of tension. because as you shown, the disparities around stop and search and the use of force that includes how tasers are use, et cetera. it gives the impression that police are like an occupying force and not a service. and as a result of that trust and confidence is the lowest, it's been for a good decade. in fact, it was an improvement after the macpherson inquiry into the death of steven lawrence and the subsequent recommendations and monitor please progress around the issues externally as well as internally and that independent of assigned by the steven ernst, their group held the commissioner and all the chief principles to account. unfortunately, with this new government in 2010, 10 years off the report. the independent oversight is gone. on the scrutiny. i've

been literally eroded and so you've got this heavy hand to talk policing that's not being monitors or should be there is not the supervision. a leadership that if necessary, and young people are saying the other police and on the protected, i've been running a chargeable boy you to last 20 years. and that's what those young people say. and they're 1415 year olds. and they're saying things have to improve independence over fight has gone south jumping their so i just want to take us back to mac fashion or a 2nd. i'm point that we exist only because of the racist month. people, lawrence of black, 18 year old school by 28 years ago now is widely believed that the police investigated the smarter definitely because stephen was black and i didn't quite answer, smart talk, lead to the make inquiry. and one of the recommendations led to the creation,

the p. c. and the 1st concept of independent oversight of the police and the u. k. that were dependent on government for independent of the police, a crash and community. and we him to improve public confidence in policing by ensuring the piece of accountable for that action and lessons allowance. and we do that by providing independent scrutiny of the police on behalf of the public. and it's our job to hold please, to account to our investigations and oversight of the pizza complaint for his saving. isn't the over fight the failing or the police that's fighting or both. so why did it come to was actually the stocks that you spoke about? those show concerns around discrimination, name the response from the haven't gone away. black people are disproportionately affected by stop and such as you've said, but also other tactics like t's or the use of cheese or black people or 8 times more likely to have either teaser,

deployed or drawn against them than the white pass it. and you've talked about the other use of force as well and i wanted to bring it back to placing chauffeur not force the yuki can why to have the level of racial disparity that they are to until they can start to. i'm sure that fund dimensional question. they will not start to make inroads and to community competence. so, you might, you might, you might such a point. i mean, let me just bring in clovis page because this is on youtube. i'm just gonna bring this in here. congress has to stump out racism one has to knowledge to start with finding structural racism and corruption, many recommendations with given in a public inquiry report less than fun, life were adopted. so anyway, pick up and then i, i want to make sure that we, we get away from reports and inquiries and we talk about real people. we can,

you don't have an 8.9 percent. what person, right. you don't have that in such you have real people and camilla is our real person in this conversation. we will go ahead briefly on bringing in committee next . yeah. as i said to you, i've been running charged school, boyd cheese. and those young people say that placement under protected and as i said that the regional young people 1415 year old doing a huge leadership program called young ladies for sake that for me says a lot about their perceptions of police. i think the other thing is the central focus on citizens. i've been eroded by you're losing a lot of front citizens focus cups like safe and they'd been teams and faces those offices. so let me do that because you know, form a police officer, say you have an inside track can inside view. i'm going to share this, this headline. and this is that i can't think of a was headline for

a mom to be involved in. my daughter was jailed for fighting off a racist attack. free c and a campaign launched camilla, that's your daughter. and up until that point up to the point way you and your daughter was involved in a huge fight that the n d tragically because she's now doing prison time and your family in the campaign is and that was wrong. this is a miscarriage of justice. what did you think of police before you got involved with the police? well, i've never been involved with police before. my family husbands and but my perception of the police, the fact they did not work black and brain people. and it was a case to stay away from them. don't speak to them. don't get in any kind of situation where police is involved or not your door. and because of the black can brian person, you would be the one that to be accused. and that was,

that was not always been my perception of the police before they happened to see under. so seattle went on a camping trip when ugly, very quickly, a fight broke out police record. and then what happened? while the fight. wow. people say a fight, but my daughter was brutally attacked. she was brutally attacked by 3 people. my daughter with 20 out the time and these people that attacked her. 2 of them were men in their forties and one of them with a woman the next 30. so these were current adults according to, you know, compared to c. h. she was not from conscious through some from that had she was kicked, she was brutally beaten, and she managed to get away with the help of a partner, a partner with unfortunately not the time of the incident and the, and when he allowed her to get away once she regained consciousness and when she

managed to find the clear enough that com site, one police officer was already there on the police record because these people had said that my daughter for, for hadn't disabled daughter. he could not ruin because she had major reconstruct the surgery, 8 weeks prior to the pac had deliberately smashed the glass in the face of the woman. so to me and that was not the case. camilla, what was wrong with the way the police treat your daughter situation because she's now doing time for what she accused the people who are fighting her of doing so she serving prison time. what did you do wrong? the what the police did wrong was not infest. investigate her race, hate crime modification, not one b. and there were 2 allegations made that night and they didn't bother looking

to see unders height, country poor teeth agree, and i provided racial assaults. i need to report it as one. and they did not bother to be investigated at all, you know, white, her considerable injuries, you know, heading up the fries, dianda partition. and you are asking for what, because of why connected? well, well, what we, what we are asking for, we've raise the profession because we've shared the on the side of the story. because as, as, as previously mentioned, the police did not investigate young allegations, which was c, v legation she made. and we've right, the right, the petition sharing the under story in the hope that we can, you know, type base right through to appeal stage before with the countries to stages of appeal already. and we've managed to prove already the non independent weaknesses wrong. we've already proved a life and we're trying to overturn her conviction,

and we galvanizing as much support as possible on we've got tens of thousands of people supporting us that have the common sense to see that something is not right to breathe. what the under has been sent to prison for land or just by reading the story. it's not right? yes. let's was talk guests about then these is just a couple of examples here of agree jesus issues with the place where we're actually disconnecting the adults and saying this is racism. i want to bring in here, leroy. some thoughts about stop and search. and then let's talk about how we fix this. is it fixable? look. so in the 1st not damage in march and july, 2020 in london. black men and boys are stopped 22000 times by the police 22000 searches a content. that's enough of action across the head of the place for illinois and

hopefully both is not. and she, she reads this, what i think though stuff suggest otherwise, there's often a strong focus on the efficacy of stuff in terms of whether it's useful for fighting crime. whether it's uncovered that the actually get strokes of the straight least side of the human cost. and that is that black, asian ethnic minority mouth predominant lays up in stockton is much higher than their white count. cause and searches undermine in the social fabric of all communities in our society, which is least officers are rash, b profiling communities. natal. i feel like a broken record because we've had this conversation multiple times. so now what do we do when we're in 2021? this disparity with the way police treat black, brown people. how to get, how do you address that? well, it's been

a real acknowledgment by the police and the police planning commissions, wherever they are in the country technologies they have a problem. and then start to ensure that offices who are prone to racial profiling and not stopping people for intelligence has the supervision and leadership. and so the supervisors should be holding them to account because what gets measure gets done, i mean need to make sure that those offices are being held to account. i think the other things that needs to be a truth that there is no correlation between stop and search and knife crime. there's a lot of times they say, oh, you stop in search because it's to protect your lives. but there's never been a correlation. in fact, the home office, the company to please their data analysis, you actually says that there is no correlation. sometimes they picked on trust. similarly, but what you need a, a objected intelligence,

lead stuff and such and working with the community you could, you can do on your own. communities needs to be working with you, especially young people. and so you've got to treat them right. you, you can't on one hand, please, can you work with us and then the other days, you then start searching them in a heavy handed way. not intelligence lead. so there has to be proper supervision and leadership. you need to have place crime commission, holden, chief constable. and the commissioner to account and making sure that it's independent oversight. you call the police to do it. and so i've been in the 30th i know district and let me just by most offices will do that job without fear of paper. but there are some rogue offs. they were the very, very heavy influence. that the argument of police everywhere as a few bad apples. a few wrote police committee. oh yes. you're shaking your head.

you're not in your head, you're doing go ahead. go ahead. no, i think i think the feedback, the apples are in the majority and it starts from the top nightly rates that you know, these higher police officers need to hold people to kind on the needs to be a decent independence organization, but also police the police and that he's not there that he's not in place. sam, this is why we have the not policing the police effectively. no, i mean i hear that challenge and recognize we have more work to do to build awareness of what we do with community. i just like, i want to come back to stop and church because i, i agree with the roy thing around the effect that has on communities. we did the piece of work last year where we looked cities of our investigations, the all features blackman and we looked at it to see what the things that community is telling us. do we see evidence of arc?

and we did. and we made you, we used our legal powers committee, 11 recommendations to change a policing practice to the metropolitan police and the syria. they were all accepted. and we are following up to make sure that those recommend when you get the form of one. because often this conversation turns into recommendations and inquiries and investigations and give me one, give me one solid wall where you like, this is going to work it's, it's going to change racism in the metropolitan police, which is the police force that the overseas london go at 1111, that's what they're, what i'm going to give you one recommendation that we made. so one of the things that we seen where officers were routine the handcuffing individuals and use of hancock, there's a usa force and it has to be justified in law. it cannot be just the custom and practice to retain the slap caught on young black men. but that's what we were

seeing. so we made a recommendation to the police that they need to address the needs to address the guidance of the culture and practice that had become embedded. and the forced to the evidence that we see. they've accepted how they publish their plan to address that through a new policy. now obviously the challenges for communities to see the change we work with others and assess them to deliver that change. the deputy mayor of london that focuses on policing and crime. we're working with hard to make sure that the recommendation we've made it's actually implement. i'm not committed to see the change. i. he that i have the, the commitment in your voice and your efforts. i want to play something though to you commit. this is christine to take precedent, take the commission out of the metropolitan police service. she's talking about stop and search in a way that made me squirm in my chair. and i'm wondering how many black and brown

people she has conversations with. that was my take away, have a listen to her, and then react immediately. let's take the important thing is an eye for observe this on the streets. most of the time the offices are extremely professional. they deal with it extremely well. they're on their body. one video to explain themselves, they keep usually young people chatting and laughing and joking a lot of the time if that's appropriate and sending people away knowing why they've been stopped and searched. and in the main, i think understanding that and, and feeling feeling as, as good as they could. no, i just don't think she has an understanding at all. and you know, i think, you know, when some police officers don't wear the party warned for teaching my daughter's case, the arresting police officer didn't weigh the 41 foot teach. and you know, when they talking to the youth in a friendly manner,

to try and trick them to try and get information i to them. and this is the consensus of most black and brian people that he's no trust with the police, a pool. and you know, she needs to be in the community, she needs to be speaking to brock and brian people. and she needs to be listening to the words that come out of the nice and stop giving mislead service because that or she's giving leave. i'm, i'm going to share this thought with you from youtube, and then i'm going to go to a comment that takes us into a much broader area. because i know this is some of the work that you're doing. so, margaret is watching right now. margaret says it's disgusting. how you opinions don't want to face up to the colonial history and the impact it's left on black lives to this day, all over europe and america. the police are racism, the u. k. this is margaret tate. i'm gonna, i'm gonna add perhaps some people, some belief. does that seem fat and less generic? and then the bigger picture, the bigger story have a nice another look. the thing is not the answer to all of society sales,

and we know that we have policing around for centuries for system designed from colonial times, inherently racist because that's its origins. trying to change it and reform in small steps work because the system itself is problematic. and then that's what needs to change the one sure fire way we can show that black and asian, and other minority people i left likely to experience police brutality is by putting in the kinds of social infrastructure and investment to make them less likely to come into the context of the police in the 1st place. this means youth provision, mental health institutions, community lead services for survivors of domestic violence and child abuse. strong wednesday unions and trade unions that people have better housing and more secure jobs you. i am much bigger program than regulating, overseeing the place is must have probably, and that's why i've been doing

a lot of work on the no parliamentary commission on youth violence from 2016 to 2020. and in fact, in today's even standard, to highlight in the fact that the mer and the police crime commission of the deputy met face of crime, sophie linden are not holding the commissioner to account. and as a result, but these things are continuing. so we have a lot, i think what the last speaker said on a very well he is actually highlighted the public health approach. we got to ensure that police only called. ready to the certain areas where the data, but enforcement and ensuring that, that dealing with the right people intelligence led and not into fishing expeditions because that's what upsets people. and then you've got to ensure they're not going to dealing with issues with like mental health because

a lot of times police often escalate everything. they're not deescalate. and especially when dealing with black men who may have a mental condition of one form or another. and so they treat them badly. and then i think the other thing is we need to understand that clearly police officers, it's not, it's not gonna solve all of public ills or society so it has to be done in partnership . so once we start to get that narrative, yes, please have a problem and they're going to be held to account a pre planning commission to doing it. i'm the i o t c a doing their work with through south. and i must admit the i b. c. as improve for it was 10 years ago, and i really want to make sure they do the things the most camilla and sal. thank you so much for bringing a real personal face onto. can the u. k. police, can they get rid of racism in the police? force, it is a complicated, complex conversation and you helped us have it. youtube was. thank you for your

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