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news. news. news. there's anger in liverpool after the english city lost the coveted unesco world heritage status, the human body as meeting and trying to decide what fights should be added or removed from its list. but what are the criteria and its politics involved? this is inside story. ah, ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm how the jim jones in a huge setback for liverpool, the united nations cultural body unesco has stripped the english city of its world
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heritage status. the decision came after concerns about development in the city, particularly along liverpool is waterfront, being put on us goes world heritage list often leads to huge financial rewards through investments and tourism. but losing, it could also have the opposite effect. the heritage list include globally recognizable sites including egypt, pyramids and the great wall of china, unesco committee meeting and china. this year is considering 17 other cultural and natural fights to add to its list this year. need barker has reaction from liverpool after unit goes decision. it is the city that kept the british empire afloat. it's $900.00 century edifice, is a testament to generations of global trade and commerce. a time when britain ruled the waves for 17 years liberals i conic waterfront, stood alongside india's taj mahal and the great wall of china, where the united nations world heritage list. but maternity brought changes that
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armed to everyone's liking. in a recent meeting in china, unesco said new developments had ruined the city's historic skyline destroying liverpool heritage value. the city is one of only 3 to be stripped of its heritage status in the past 50 years. the water from 12 dog clowns. and they have been inscribed because they're reflect, they are conveys history, all major. we're trading city, port us from the 79 agent center. so feeling the dog, for example, of building high buildings totally change the way it is best. see this history faster. 7 and a half $1000000000.00 waterfront projects been cited as a cause for concern. so to has the power to build everton football clubs, new riverside stadium,
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viewed by some of the act of cultural vandalism. and this is a huge area of land that's been earmarked for development. liverpool city leaders say that it is in comprehensible why unesco would won't they semi derelict don't shut off from the rest of the city to remain a wasteland for evermore. many liverpool feel. the cities being forced to make a binary choice between preserving his heritage status and reviving and developing, deprived, and derrick part of the city unesco. want this place to just stay as a post industrial ghost town. we can allow that happen as a city, the area that the stock is with it and is incorrect award, which is one of the most deprived war. it's not only within liverpool, but in the entire country. the in all areas of course, much more to liverpool than it's unesco status to continue attracting tourists
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in 10 i point to the economic value from having that status over the last 17 years. very little do i think we will lose investment or visitors because of losing the plaque. know will we be a will her to site know will will be a will class heritage city. yes. losing unesco status is undeniably a cultural blow for this historic city. liverpool will no longer be opposed to char preservationists, but this is a living city that is undergoing massive changes to transform some of the most deprived parts of the country, creating tensions between liverpool of historic past and its potential future. the park al jazeera, liverpool. all right, let's have a look at some of the sites being considered for unesco. is world heritage list of the 17 up for consideration 9 are in europe including the italian city of bologna,
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which once its famous porticos recognized, 2 are from south america, including the chin shorter mummies and chilly. they were buried 2000 years before egypt, mummies and chill a once that known. but some locations already on the list. risk being downgraded. environmentalists are supporting a bid to put australia as great barrier reef on the danger list because of climate change. while ethiopia is 11th and 12th century rock hewn churches at lee, bella, are in need of urgent restoration. ah, that's bringing our guests in liverpool. trevor skipton is member of the mercy side, civic society and also of liverpool world heritage steering group. in doha, i'm going to i'm professor of history and anthropology at shawnee state university and also in liverpool. michael parkinson, honorary professor at the university of liverpool and ambassador of the heseltine
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institute for public policy practice and place a warm welcome to you all. and thanks for joining us on inside story today. trevor, let me start with you today. were you surprised at all by this decision by unesco to remove manchester from its world heritage lists and also can liverpool appeal this decision or is it final? right. the 1st thing is, has been coming for a while, so we weren't surprised, but we were a bit shocked. fact, it been no real listening to the points that liverpool had made. i mean, i'm a member of the message, i'm civic society and i was an advisor of the safety at the time that it got quilters had status when that document was produced in 2004,
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8. it was based on the 17th 18th and 19th century history of the city. and it was closely argued around a lot of detail in the subsequent years. people have looked at the so called buffer 7, which is the entire city center and started worrying about the skyline. the skyline of the city noticed livable. skyline is a 20th century skyline. when it was the, the 1st european city to build the american south skyscrapers alive, a building being the most famous and alive, a building we can totally sell his building in europe for 20 years. this isn't ancient history. this is the ongoing development of the say to the live a building was actually built in a form of dark and leather post development. as a living city has castle has been very carefully recorded and notes. it's an
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ongoing process. little blends and i represent mostly scientific society. i'm very proud of the heritage. and i don't think any city has spent more money and time of looking at 2 charities for us. so it comes as a shock. but it wasn't a surprise. we knew we sort of saw it coming. michael, you wrote in a piece that liverpool had been treated unfairly in relation to other world heritage cities and its unique urban history of development has not been recognised . how in your opinion, has liverpool been treated unfairly compared to other heritage cities? well, obvious example is london, which is gone. will cause a status on the top bridge. and it's surrounded by some skyscrapers in the world. but because it's in london, unesco, obtaining a very different line, they said 50 years ago and i've done nothing about it. so that's wrong,
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very clear difference in the united kingdom. the 2nd thing is, you know, most of us goes sites are on the monument. so natural science, they're not very good dealing with cities, sickies and on the check is not easy. it develops and changes it has to, it grows and it's heritage changes. and so you're not all have difficulty deciding what is right. what is wrong? it's true, i tried to sit in 2007 because it had to put a new bridge. so unesco is not very good on this. but the really key points on all this, some getting missed. this is not a question of do you like this building all that building all the other building? it most advisors to unesco, said liverpool had all ready damaged,
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irretrievably outstanding, universal value off the site. that is simply not true can years ago the city was gonna build, shall see, lots of ice blocks. no one has been built actually in the site does a launch building. and if you saw the movie that you are calling me yesterday in the start, this has been data for 50 years. so you're not to say, we're worried that you much damage the site, but they can't say you already have. so as a matter of fact, wrong on the other issue, which is the evidence football stadium. they've said if you feeling that you've lost the upstanding universal value. well, i can tell you your movie showed the peer head and the 3 graces they all
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stand on in fil, doc. liverpool historically as always filled in docs that have it. in addition, others who are going to goes, i think, based on stadium in a really unattractive part of the area, operating 10 percent. so that 500 need on investment to invest in 2 major the following. so the 3rd part, michael, i'm, i'm sorry, i'm sorry to interrupt you, let me, let me get back to that point you're making in just a moment because i want to, i want to throw a question on this way real quick. i'm a what we're talking a lot about the, you know, the processes that are involved in, in a site being selected as a world heritage site. what does that process like for obtaining unesco world heritage status? who initiates it? is it a very lengthy process and do politics play a role in it as well?
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i would say all threes is probably the answer. it's likely for there are 10 criteria used to be and i think 4 or 6 before 6 actually for cultural heritage side. and then he was increased unified to 10 criteria, whether it's a natural light or a cultural heritage site. and the often the city itself will try to promote itself will promote a fit aspect or area that he wants to include. he wants to have added. they will work with the committee to, to, to make sure that it meets the criteria. but you're looking at liverpool, she's raising, i mean, i very much with what your, your to guests are saying. and i just, i mean, i don't want this to and i'm
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a little full support to, you know, kind of what i think that it's because of every to them like and, but anyway sort of the most serious down to the point to fish. it's in a way tools, unfortunate that what ended up being the center piece. why? who got that designation in 2004 was the very docs themselves and the waterfront. obviously it's not just it's waterfront, but and that car is really very much as your your guests are in need of the generation are in the event. this is a living, vibrant, changing, volume, growing city. and it's a real challenge for cities like live, who am i present and elsewhere, to kind of hold that balance. and perhaps the biggest question should be,
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should cities, you know, put themselves in that should not a better of maybe not having to carry that burden, at least not in terms of, you know, an area like that. you know, like, like the doc areas and say, okay, i'm going to build my image and then find themselves years down the road that they are unable to keep that promise. i mean, it's a difficult issue. i told you something. trevor, a few moments ago michael in his answer started to talk about the new everton stadium that's being planned. unesco is said that it was not consistently consulted on changes to construction plans within that area of manchester. and they went on to say that these developments, including that planned stadium, resulted in serious deterioration of the historic site. what's your reaction to that? well, there is, there is a small area of controversy,
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a mattress that some of the water and brand new modem is removed. now as a spending a lot of money to make sure that all the decisions on the building of the stadium, technically reversible. so if you wanted to put aside back to its present situation, that will be possible. they, they bits of a dock which are going to be under the stadium being preserved before the stadium is belt, so that they could be technically reconstructed in the future. they, the main thing is that ever turn me a very closely with historical sizes including historic and painstaking process. they put probably 50 or $50000000.00 out of that $500000000.00 cost. the same is directly related. as michael said before to conservation matches,
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as i can see of benefits for themselves in having conservation credibility. they're opening the site and the riverside to the public for the 1st time ever isn't mass. it's a massive game. so the safety and they bent over backwards including lowering the higher the stadium so it's no high then then they buy back to warehouse. so quite high they jump through every hope you can imagine. but unfortunately, us and unesco have turned the desk to this. the stadium hasn't even started work on site yet. you still have jumped the gun. they haven't really listened. and they looked at the mountain of documents that haven't provided evidence, not short of money. they've been prepared to provide some money, not just for the new stake in the $53000.00 fans in the 1st phase,
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but also for a massive conservation work which would otherwise it's all part of earth. it's all part of the same story. you develop your conserves and in the city which has to go on living, you have to combine the 2. there's no other way and you asked at the beginning whether the scope for appeal. there's no scope for level to appeal because unesco of facing in the completely wrong direction. they're not, not listen to us. they say last visit the safety in 2000. that 9 was they already decided then the patient was the soul to world heritage site that they really wanted. so i never post day when none but at the beginning. but if you can, if you come to liverpool now, and you compare it with liverpool in 2004, the whole loop heritage side which include 6 areas which the ducks north dr. anyone
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improvement is in comparable, including. so the most rigorous of conservation would love buildings likes in georgia. so like the out, the dock traveler cannot build trip. i'm family dog. i'm so i'm showing resist. jevar. i'm sorry to interrupt you. we are just starting to run out of time. i will get back to you. i don't know the point you were making, michael, let me go to you. trevor was talking about, you know, essentially how this is a, a very delicate balance when you're talking about a living city, wherein lies a world heritage site. let me ask you from your vantage point, how do you go about achieving this delicate balance of preserving the past, but also planning for the future. i mean, how should cities be able to celebrate and preserve their histories while also being able to rebuild? so they can prosper, going forward. ok, so we're going to speak quickly. i don't want to waste your time. heritage is not
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about buildings. it's also about cultural values. and so you build upon that, that's part of our heritage. we weren't designated to the buildings. it was because we were the center of the british empire and the city mentioned on the century. so it's a found values as much as buildings that said in terms of building come to little. there is a mustn't doc warehouse was renovated 20 years ago. actually brilliant, huge subtraction. got a museum, a gallery in it, there at the dock at the suddenly dog in the north stock side. a huge investment of a wonderful child, an appalling block. what you do is quality unesco is got to worry about it quality and what city needs to do it carries with it as a consult as 50000 people 95 percent. yes. want consumption people to to values
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be all thing to do quality work and whether it's new or small. i then becomes a matter of tasting preference. i can mix unesco frankly to which you don't miss and care about your colleagues. i absolutely agree, frankly, we didn't want to lose his status, but now we are relieved. it has become a huge burden dealing with, you know, the transaction costs are too high. and frankly, the city cannot go on year off the being the public headlines because it fails to meet some unreasonable standards. they said 3 years ago. you must build nothing in the city until we approve your plans. sustain, also leap. every day. that's my point. them office, right. i'm or you heard michael there talk about the cost of all of this when it comes to having a world heritage site, maintaining it. let me ask you how,
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how costly is it? who is ultimately responsible for it? does unesco play a role in this, or is it more the country where the, where the site is, or is it a combination of both ultimately in the country? i mean, it's the state that age because remember, yes it is a club member space. so each stage is responsible for science. now you next go, might have funded made or expertise or resources that can sometimes push to what some of the sites and some of the members say to help and maintain. but by and large it's the responsibility of the members state itself to ensure that it sites are kept in good order preserved in the appropriate manner and to the standards required, especially if they are under the unesco heritage sort of designation. and that's how it's always b d, in terms of the cost. yes,
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obviously it can be especially again the government support, you know, areas urban centers and bigger events and major urban centers like liverpool like like man, just anywhere else in the world room room parents. these are very complex and difficult places to maintain a new car, a huge resources. so it's a 3rd question to ask as well and say, you know, if it's a cost benefit, now that the end of the day and to look at which parts you want to preserve in which part you might think it's not necessarily. you know, it's more important to develop something like the docs will, you know, it's up to the people who live perhaps and make that decision not to buy the pyramids. we're not talking about palmyra and the template bell. we're not talking about much peach. we're talking about the 19th 20th century,
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making 18 and 20 century docs. right. i don't know it for me it's it's, it's a pity that are going to lose that. but i can also see the point that your guess we're making as well. right. trevor, are you concerned the liverpool is going to be losing investment or visitors because of losing the world? heritage status. now i don't think that will happen. i think it already been said let liverpool, it's regenerating itself. it's. it was in a very dark place. 2030 years ago, the city was a shrinking safety. it was regarded as a basket case, but it has come back with a vengeance. and in the middle of that, renee sonton livable is conservation of a history. that's why this is such a ridiculous thing to have,
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but it's not important in terms of the label of world heritage site. it's regrettable. it's gone, but it's not going to make much difference. can i just make one more point relation to what michael said about? then london made an important decision when it, when the tower of london and the palace of west were declared, well heritage sides, london refused to accept buffer zones around them. liverpool problems have come because they're very wide buffer zone. that's where all these so all it's all buildings. nobody's ever proposed until a building within the world to cite itself. so if we go back to the original document, we'll remove the word the anesco from it completely, but we'll proceed on the basis of looking up to the heritage and the best way we possibly can. a new developments will provide some of the finance and the way to do
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that. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation here. thank you so much. all of our guest trevor skimped and i'm a 1000 and michael parkinson and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, algeria dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. our handle is at a inside story from him, how much i'm drilling the whole team here. bye for now. the ah, ah, ah.
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