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news, news, news president. we shuffled his cabinet, hoping to show up his popularity. but there's joint public discontent. job both sonata was trans accuse of mishandling the covered 19 times and angry processors say he should step down. so who's likely to win this battle? this is inside story. ah, ah, hello and welcome to the program. i'm rob madison, brazil. the president is under pressure again during the course of this year.
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general sonata managed to unite left wing parties, trade unions, and social organizations, because they're trying to get him impeached. he's mainly accused of mishandling the pandemic, and possibly being responsible for the death of thousands of people. brazilians have also accused him of corruption, a disregard for the environment and policies. they say a feeling the economic crisis. in his latest response, most an auto announced a government re shuffle, but that's only angered more people say the president is a threat to democracy. i am here against this government that i consider genocidal, responsible for not purchasing the vaccine. and many people died for lack of vaccines that the government did not buys. i am here claiming the right of all brazilians, the right to democracy without fascism and both tomorrow out. nobody can stand this genocide in the country anymore. i'm for the amazon for the indians and for the truth. and that's why i'm here because ball scenario is
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a liar. i didn't vote for him, but i also didn't think he would be so genocidal. we're going to go to our guests in a moment, but 1st let's take a look at both scenarios, presidency. the popular and conservative president took office in 2019 after defeating leftists has ruled for decades. victory was seen as part of growing support for the far right in many countries has been criticized for favoring torture and praising the nation's former dictatorship. as comments on race, gender and sexual orientation have also provoked control oversee the president has labeled corona virus, are little flu is pushed for quarantine measures to be lifted and sent contradictory messages about masks and social distancing. and he's been sued by indigenous leaders at the international criminal court for damage caused by his environmental policies. the are going to bring in our guests joining us from south palo. we have shut out. those are connie's and offer brazilian political
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analyst. and in new haven, connecticut, we have nissan massaging. he's an associate professor that international studies that are queens university and also from south palo. we have claudio cotto is a political scientist. he's also associate professor at the utility vargas foundation. welcome to you all gentlemen. this, i'm sorry, i want to start with you. what do you think the president is trying to achieve with this re shuffle? well, one of his main objective is to establish and solve for to keep the president until the next 2 elections. so there are attempt of impeaching him, as you said, in your introduction note by dr. industry shuffle. and then by bringing in a t r to get out to his government, he wants to confirm his alliance with what is called in brazil said go
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to avoid the near term of impeaching. and so because of my, from my point of view, the main, he's main objective. an alternative objective is to allow him to counsel more effectively the narrative that is being driven by the coven inquiry commission of a defendant. one of the very direct sequences of this re shuffle is that he's sudden will be fit in as a potential participant in the commission. so this will allow him to defend himself and his narrative in fighting the coffee and then you can present. so these are his german objectives. there are others, but for the time you start to jo survival rather than strategy of
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a mean for the long run meant but tweeting election, others are trying to. we hear a lot of course about the people in brazil who are opposed to the president. let's talk about the support that he has. what is the state of both in our support in brazil at the moment? do you think think he reached a floor is standing on the support of the hardliners, the extreme right supporters that, that probably make up about 1520 percent of the electorate, depending on how you measure it. these people are people that benefit or their policeman, their fireman there. in the military, there's a ruler. realists, people that benefit from his policies, son, christian of angelica's, that align with his conservative ideas. and for for these
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core group of supporters, there was both. so now on to the end, it doesn't really matter much what, what he does or what he says. if he contradicts himself or even the impact the results of his policies. these people just have been following him since the beginning. and they think they'll stick with him into the n, claudio cotto. when the changes and opinion about the president that we have seen in brazil over the last 12 months, say, how much of that is done to people who will post them in the 1st place. and how much of it is people who had voted for me, do you think, who are now seeing a different side or choosing to interpret what he's doing differently? i think that when we consider the boss that showed the popularity or the, or the laws of popularity of both. so now we can say that about a half of his former voltages in 2018 now don't support him. this is what the
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numbers show to us and to have to do, of course, we've has be his behavior as a present and he has a very peculiar kind of behavior. he is a very aggressive president. he doesn't respect the tradition of the behavior or the president had in terms of how to talk with people, how to talk with the representatives of all the branches of the government. and it has to do, of course, again, with the policies and the mainly in this case, the policies regarding the health and the policy you guys and how both so not dealt with the funding mix, not only in terms of sabotaging all the time. the marriage was that were necessary to keep people apart one from the other in terms of health security measures, but also in terms of the crime vaccines are prescribing medicine that really don't work. and even they have the present, the show, the consequences for the people. and so we've considered this,
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this whole thing. we can say that people now of weight both so and worse than they used to do before. as i said before me, he's still relies, his support and on a very hard core. busy that is, comprised of by far right, people by an extra amused people from the security forces. and this is, are now something like that 20 percent of the prison population says he had more than 50 percent of the votes. we can say that he lost the support of at least 30 percent of resilience for those of us who don't follow the brazilian politics closely. what was things like in brazil from the election took place and john, both so nato was put in place. well, i think that both, so now he was elected because he present themselves at that time as a kind of outsider. is there just to say that both? so natalie is a real outsider. both on are, is much more
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a marginal insider than properly an outsider since he was a federal representative for 20 years. all his sons are members of the political class. the one of them is a sample right now. the other one isn't again, a federal deputy. the other one is a cd counselor and so well, so i was a member of this is that he was able to present himself as an outsider. and since there was no widespread feeling about the bleeding, politics in brazil in terms of really reacting against the traditional political part is against the traditional politics against the representative institutions that don't work properly accordingly to the perception of the prison and people boast on how to present himself is one that will destroy other things, to rebuild it in a different manner. and now we re shuffle his robins. we can see that while he's not doing that is, i'm sorry, let's talk about this re shuffle. given the fact that he appears to be able to
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actually, i'm going to come on to get all this on because there's all the you want to make it a point there. yeah, i may jump in to the last question and looking forward in the, in our last election in 2018, we're also coming out of ears of the the consequences of the lovers to candle the car wash love. i shall preparation that dealt with corruption in the political system marginalized the workers body to day. many of some of the politicians were arrested, particularly president lula, former president lula. at the, at that time in 2018 noah was leading the poles and it's a counterfactual, but it's likely that he would go to run up with both. and if he was allow, of course, his political rights were, were denied. also at that time,
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we had before the election, we had the sense that the more traditional right way stablish men are center, right, being stablish been, would put forward a candidate in the person of jed all the while me had a broad, very broad coalition of, of body supporting him had a lot of tv time, which is a big deal in brazil and politics. so there was this sense for many politicians from establishment for some t, v analysts that the center right, would come true that all of these operation to put law side and put the workers body aside all the re anger against the lack of government that would lead to a more mainstream stablish man, right, being candidate coming to power, and then that's complete and will happen. closure just described how bush or not was elected coming from the fringes coming from the outside. but in
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a sense that still the same predict members face herself today, the little as political rights were reinstated. he might run next year both on of course, still with a very strong political force and the center or the right, the right things. center right. coalition is, is completely lost. they don't know exactly what to do. they don't know if the line themselves a boss or not. they don't know if they try to promote a new candidate. so all of these will play out and next year should all the thank you, i want to come on to nissan massage. go back to the question that i was going to ask, which is about the re shuffle itself with the, the appointment or this move towards, including more centrist candidates within, within his cabinet, within his organization. is that all this? do you think that supposed to not always sell himself risks undermining his own authority if you're like, if he
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a centrally dilutes the level of power that he has by having to move it out to other people in order to be able to appease his opponents? absolutely. perfect question, and you're absolutely right. as he deepened these alliance with this group of visiting politicians which are imputed through our imputed to be in among the most corrupt fusion president politics. he contradict. first of all, he's a message of 2018 when he run as the candidate would bring honesty to politics. so he contradicts that, not only he control the medicine that not that from 20 gene, but he put himself at the mercy of this group of petitions who do politics the traditional way and who will bargain for every single support of support. your volunteer will give the government which we can,
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the government will weaken the government further and further. which means that this group of what addition will not care about improve in the economy or the social standing of the population. what matters to them of their own interests and their survival. so as long as they are serving their own interests, this group of politicians will provide the will. so now we support this support. we not mean that also not improve a performance as president. it will only mean that this group of what addition will be provided with the support you need to avoid an encounter part of which they will be serving their own. so this is the conundrum in which also notified himself right now. let me just interrupt because i want to go into claudia coat and go back to the go back to a point that geraldo was making with regard to the elections that we're going to be seeing in several months time. geraldo was saying that the one of
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the problems was that the opposition had relied so much on both, both scenarios, lack of electability in a sense that they, they were concentrating on different things. they essentially took their eye off the ball because they didn't think the ball sonata was going to get elected. do you think that the opposition in brazil has changed enough and realized their mistake, their previous mistake? enough to be able to cook because a cohesive force against both sonata run and about a year's time. well, i think they did, but the point is that we don't have just one position, but we have different factors of the position today. the perhaps the more competitive sector is the one represented by lula, the, the laughter traditional left in brazil. and there is another sector that now people call that the 3rd way. what will be something in the middle of lowland both
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. so now we can be a center is candidate can be a moderate right? this candidate we don't know is what it is. but these guys, they know that they must be competitive against both on the chemical by he's the space in the political this bill next year. it's impossible for this group to buy the space that is already okay. bye bye bullet from the left until the central left and even a part of the center. and so it was very important for the sectors of the political spectrum to weaken both when i do even more in order to occupy this space. the point is that we don't have just one candidate and so there was not an unified capacity of competition for the next election. and besides that, there is also a difficulty in presuming a real competitive and the feeling candidate is not only a problem of the demand. we have that demand for centuries or centers, right? this candidate. but we don't have
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a candidate that can fill this blank and is capable of convincing people that they are a best alternative. then the other 2 candidates. but we really realized that both when i was no, not only a freak, has some people perceived in 2018. that would be impossible for him to be elected. considered, for example, to think that he said, i would say that he was elect because of the things that he says is this things that are the ones that allow him to present himself at a real part of the establishment. but now he's establishment and he's a different kind of a stab. and so these people can present themselves as an end table. so now to book it depends on what parts of the position we are talking about that we've talked briefly earlier about the, the, the involvement of the security. so obviously to support the house from the military and so on. i want to ask you about how the military and brazil views about sonata presidency. and do you think that there's any possibility the military might
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intervene if it looked as though a ball sonata presidency was going to fail? that's a great question. and i'm glad you asked it. i think one of the consequences of the cabinet we shuffle, we saw is a down play of the role of the military in person. i was government, don't get me wrong. well, so not who has thousands of military officials in to beat and boasts is the most number of military men in the government since they dictatorship, it even suppresses what we had in our military dictatorship here. has a very strong support from the military and from the military leaders from the minister of the science from the, the chief of the forces. but in putting, you know, get any, been bringing this part. the collisions are parties, he's giving the driving seat off the government to the politicians, not to the military. deadlines though, will not, will not go away. he still has
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a strong support from, from the military, from the, from the leaders. he recently shuffle position from, from the, the, the branches in the navy, in the army. and, and there seems to be what we hear from the military is at least the leadership. they will not stand for renew lula government for the lula election, which is a conser since right? that's not their option. it's. it's like putting democracy in the hosted seat, but we, we have, we have being getting the signals and i think it sorry to interrupt, but i wanted to, i don't miss sorry about the fact that i would imagine that given that brazil only emerged from the military dictatorship back in 1985. how fresh is that in the
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brazilian mind when they see the way that job both and, and his government are operating some impression in people's memories. i'm one of the things that saves balsam from beach. that is the fact that he's, vice president is another not another he's a general retard general. and even some sectors are concerned. for most of our you can be reached, it will be more our will become president more brings more the military institution even done both. now, because he's a general, he's a retired general, the military and he's part of about a fringe of the military look, believe that define the military as a moderate can force him present in politics. you know, the,
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the asian feet up interviews when things go bad. when things go south, so he, if he's involved as a president, there is a risk for a major is probably getting politics from visiting democracy. so this is still fresh in people's memory and people and many politicians would refrain from pitching both on our own because of this, the risk of bringing the military back to power in 2021. i think perhaps not as evidence may take issue with being cold or not, but move on from there. let me talk about the elections that are coming up. no judge wilson out, it was getting increasing the critical about the election process in brazil. is it too much of a coincidence to suggest that this is happening while his approval ratings are plummeting? claudio code to yeah, yeah, that is exactly what is, what has happened says both on i realized that to be very difficult for him to when
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the next elections. he says, all the time that the political system, the legal system of elections, it doesn't work properly. it's not really reliable that fraud has or red open today, for example, who present some evidence. he says that there are some evidence that there was a, for all the major political fraud in the elections of 2014. when do my research was elected instead of iso nav as opposed to them even asked when navid just don't, don't, don't think this way. he recognized that the war fighter elections. but this is not the novelty in terms of both on our, even sometime before the elections of 1010. he was a read talking about this problems that doesn't exist. we don't have evidence of that in the, in the political system of elections. i think that the problem, the main problem personnel is not only discrediting the electoral institutions in
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case of he lose the election, but is also a part of his general perspective. it's general strategy of weakening political institutions of brazilian democracy and sees one of the most important institutions of resume democracy are the electoral system and electro institutions. it's very important for him to week. this kind of thing, even though they are, let me ask news on my daughter. that's because we're getting close to the end of the program for those who are opposing both. so now in brazil is taking to the streets and registering their protest publicly. the only thing they can do is there any other mechanism apart from political impeachment that can be used to remove both sonata by the public or do we have to wait for the elections briefly if you with ballistic lee from my personal bike both but is to wait for the election because portraying,
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or pursuing impeachment or other strategies might allow for some, for a victimization process, would allow him to regain credibility with his followers. so from what all of you, the best way to do to deal with this is just to allow to wait for the elections bought. right. we're going to leave it there. thank you very much. these to all i guess is that others are around offer brazilian political analysts from so part of nissan massage, the associate professor of international studies at alco wayne university from new haven, connecticut, and also from south palo claudio koto political scientist and associate professor as utility of august foundation and thank you to you too. for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, odyssey, or dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter.
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