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hour's time after inside story. good bye for now. news news, news. news . 6 name. so the me in the military has named itself it can take a government leader, promises to hold multi party elections, but we'll min on the line, keep his word and what's the role of the international community and this ongoing crisis. this is insight story. ah, ah

hello and welcome to the program. i'm peter toby. 6 months ago, me and mom was plunged into chaos when the military took power in a qu, it locked up civilian leaders and promised to hold onto power for only a year, but senior general min on lie has not extended the state of emergency until august 2023, he says he'll hold multi party elections but didn't give any other details. the qu triggered mass protest, which the military quashed with upon crack down some of me and mars neighbors in se asia, and are becoming frustrated in denise, he is foreign minister, has urged the military to approve a special envoy from the s e. n. regional block saying there's little progress on a plan to resolve the crisis will bring in august in just a moment. first, this report from 2020 change in bangkok. as an aerobics instructor, dances almost vehicles block off parliament than me and mas capital maple. on

february the 1st, but at the general's thought it would be a bloodless qu, they couldn't have been more wrong. months of bitter resistance and a ballad military crack down with nearly a 1000 killed. 6 months later, the military john threw his renaming itself a caretaker government, although it appears it will still hold important positions. and the leading general giving assurances, elections will be held soon. if you know that we must create conditions to hold a free and fair multiparty general election, we have to make the preparations, pledge to hold the multi party general election without fail duty, but is not clear under what conditions those elections would be held. since the qu, the military has outlawed the national league for democracy from certain su cheese party and rejected its landslide victory in november. new elections would take place under the military emergency laws, which will be in place for another 2 years. min online did say the military would follow the lead of an invoice sent by the association of southeast asian nation.

but that invoice has yet to be appointed. and as yet, has failed to take a firm line as events of spiraled out of control, as yet has been divided on ma'am, or in the last 6 months with indonesia, malaysia, and singapore wanting to take a hard line. but the generals here in bangkok appear to be wanting to give the benefit of the doubt to the generals in man mach. what is of growing concern to the international community? is the worsening cove at 19 situation in the country. more than half of the world population lives in countries bordering mamma, while inside those borders, the bars is spreading unchecked. the qu has resulted in a near total class. all the health care system and health care workers are being attacked and arrested. the virus is spreading through the population very fast. indeed, by some estimates. in the next 2 weeks hall of the population of men more could be

infected with coded on the streets of young gone protest. so far the man was flag. they say they don't want new elections. they just want the military to step down. tony chang al jazeera bank. well, me and laws military has been facing growing international pressure since the qu, the united nations hazards it's member states to prevent the flow of weapons into me in the us, the u. k. and the, you all have imposed sanctions. but me and my asian neighbors are reluctant to do the same. after holding crisis talks with general min and lie in april the, as the unblock said, the violence must stop, but flatly rejected sanctions. china and thailand account for more than half of me in miles trade volume in both countries do remain friendly with their powerful military. ah, ok. let's get going. let's bring in our guests joining us on skype, dr. sasa,

a spokesman, the national unity government of me and ma, which was formed after the qu, by members of the deposed civilian government. and also in canada, we have john packer professor of law and director of the human rights research and education center at the university of also. and in london, we have money on a human rights activists from me and my gentlemen a warm welcome to all dr. fafsa, exactly 6 months on, do we believe these promised elections will actually take place? no, this is and then yesterday made me do you want to vote? it both fell apart. and paul, 37 at least 1000000 votes of the people. so even if they fall elections is to

never be a free and fair election and we want to be have elections, which was a bit more classic john pack it in or to or why do you think the june feels the need to keep the emergency rules the emergency legislation in place until august 2023. well 1st of all, i agree with doctor that this is propagandistic. so i would say there's no reason to believe a word that they say. so i think this is nothing more than a scam as a fictional days in the future, but why they feel the need because they seek some kind of legitimacy for their authority. so this is, this is a game. this is basically now asserting naming themselves titles like prime minister like caretaker government to have a ton of tina legitimacy and then hoping that this will be bought by the international community. it certainly is not bought by the people that bung sony in

london. what did you make of the general speech? what 3 days ago now? just listening to it or looking at transcriptions of it, it sounded and it read surely very oddly. i mean at one point he was talking at by about bioterrorism in relation to cove. it and at another point he was talking about the requirements to grow more onions in the country. it just sounded slightly disconnected from the reality of me and mar, and the accusations being level at his job right now. well bioterrorism, but you know, by that he means, you know, the people who refuse to cooperate with the government or military, i should say, we don't have a legitimate government in power in ne p dol refusing to cooperate with the military control held clinics and whatnot. and, and because said, you know,

the truth of the matter is there's absolutely 0 credibility with the military, gender and then military as an institution. and, you know, the growing army and, but, well, the burmese military regime regime successively have been known to be extremely superstitious. when it comes to, you know, the different type of agree cultural practices and, you know, that be, you know, 30 years ago the burmese of the dictator general saw mom said we've got a lot of sand. so we could have a silicon valley to create computer industry and they're like, you know, his successor, the pantry to people to grow. you know, the physics not so something and you know, so i think, but the most important thing is what my to hold panel is to raise said this genta

is trying to basic, basically gain international legitimacy because in september the united nations general assembly is going to see to, you know, the or decide on who is going to represent the people. and the jointer is trying to show that it is a normal functioning government. and, but you know, the reality is completely the opposite. that they are not in charge of a proper functioning, state health care sector, or economy john packet in you were noting there listening to mcdonny in london. i guess you would agree with that, but that's interesting, isn't it? the point that he raises about the united nations, because the me and marin bassett, or to the united nations has very much distance himself from the john, sir. but his position in that continuing position at the united nations in new york is not decided by the generals. in ne p a door is not decided by the powers that be

in me and ma, it's a decision that goes to the united nations at the highest level. they decide who's acceptable to them as any countries. ambassador that that's exactly right. i mean, so 1st of all, i would say there are 2 elements to this. there is the state of me and me are as a part of a subject of international relations and law. and there is a question about the character of that state its territory. its population and then the key element here, the contentious element is the, the government who speaks for the state and exercises sovereignty. and that's determined by elements of legitimacy of authority and effectiveness. so there's one element, but a very key. and i want to emphasize that the, the pretenders do not enjoy either effective control in the state. clearly nor do they enjoy the support of the will of the people. so there's

a very fundamental question in miramar, but the other side of the coin is the international recognition side. and the republic of the union of the state is it's officially call is a member of the united nations. and it's for the united nations to decide who sits and speaks for the state. and that's actually a decision of a body called the credentials committee of the general assembly. and it will meet 4 seem to meet in september and then it may take a decision. it should take a decision. it might push it a little further because it's contentious, but that decision is not a decision of some general's, not really of anyone else. it's going to be the decision of the member states of united nations who they will recognize speaking for me, emma. dr. sasa has strong is the campaign of civil disobedience that we are still seeing spasmodically on the streets of me and ma, john packer, and also among zante, both making kind of the same point, which is this, that since the late fifty's, no military dictatorship has always controlled all of the country is very difficult

because there are different compet ingredients all within the mix. they're nationwide past against the, the military. me, emma may fall div cdm movement ease, most powerful, non violent movement against the military is story often. in fact, the peaceful movement is strong, cool, and power food and the military. reason, as these is not only just above cdm participant, this is also the nation wide test. again, the military of peril in the memo and the people memo are facing. the reason i gave them these military that we are facing just military. they have

kill mode. there was, how's that man and woman? no country in the world to try later than might be for katie. and they have arrested mode and this policy, you know, send people off mamma because of their passport powell, we will never along know my lady. she of the reason why, why to me that people have been displaced by these military aggressions and 6 by 4000000 people. me a mom we to be without foods, you will be spout by the end of this year. ok. and 37000000 people. right. need to be in the poverty line manzona in london, difficult to confirm a trustworthy, independent source. how many people have been arrested. but it's it surely in the thousands, when it comes to those people who've been arrested or detained,

or interviewed by the relevant authorities, or indeed have chosen people have chosen to leave the country. a lot of them are health care providers. can we say that the jones is in effect weaponized being cov id because so many of those health care providers have been the leading edge of the protest movement and unashamedly the job to have gone after them. i have been arguing that the military gentra has weaponized medical oxygen, you know, not the virus. they have no control with the virus, but they have control over who have access to medical oxygen. and so the military has, you know, put in place severe restrictions in the private sector, the market, the civil society, in terms of the kobe stricken population. you know,

we now have the, was the 3rd largest of cold, bit infested population. and, you know, just a couple of days ago, the united nations has issued a very stern warning that within the next 2 or 3 weeks, you're half of the countries to 54000000 population. could be, you know, call it to positive. but no one's really testing and, and you know, we're just looking at the bodies piling up as cemeteries and instead of providing and cooperating freely and you know, out of goodwill and in good faith with the international organizations, the military gender is building more crematorium. so, you know, you can tell the, the nature of the regime, but i think i want to bring in one thing that is very important. this is a very military that has spearheaded the genocidal campaign against muslim

ro, hinges in 20162017. and there is, there are, there is actually international legal proceeding at the international court of justice. and also there's a full investigation by the international criminal court, specifically targeting the, the state or the military leadership. and so, you know, that the military has gone from, you know, worse to worst. and the question is, why is the united nations security council and talk ok, let me put some of those pointed soup. let me put some of those points manzona and london to john pack up. the point about cremmit toria. this john sir, is signaling it's getting ready to cremate up to $3000.00 bodies per 24 hours. that's death on an industrialized scale.

230000 people have been displaced inside the country to get away from what the john tre is doing. some of the borders have been closed, so they can't cross the border into some of the neighboring countries, and they can't go back to where they, the places they might call home. is it fair of me to say the country is in free fall, in a completely unique situation that we have not seen before, even by the standards of what's been going on historically and me and my i think that's correct. i mean, there's a few elements to this. there is the agree, just miss, i mean, it's hard to emphasize over emphasize this of the atrocities. but we're seeing that the, the hunter is using this kind of turning the instrument of state against its own population. now remember that the legitimacy of authority here derives not only from the will of the people, but the purposes of using that authority,

which is supposed to be for the well being of the population. that's not me saying that that's, that's in the un charter. the, you know, this is a test for the united nation. is it serious about this? because it's very clear that the hunter has no interest in the will of the people. it is seeking to maintain its power as effectively a criminal gang. there is no constitutional or international legal authority for this, and the potential here is not only us or destruction of the society of mia mark, but increasingly a threat to peace and security in the region. you mentioned not only the displacement internally, but also refugees across borders. now, increasing instability with the resistance movement and so forth. this can have substantial spillover and there are many people who are talking about a kind of scenario that we've seen elsewhere in the world. a kind of syria type of situation, which i remember well,

working with the united nations at the time. 2012, for example, has only 6000 deaths at one point. so not much different miramar and we have syria as it is today. so it's not beyond imagination to say what's happening in miramar as a potential to do something unprecedented in the region which is the implosion of a state in the heart of southeast asia. dr. sasa would to people like you and your organization do. if almost 6 months to the day since the coo and the early days of february, this of this year, this is actually what we're seeing unfolding in real time is actually the beginnings of the military hanging on to power. they've got fingerprints to show that they've done it before. we have every page in the face, the people of me, emma, are the most important. and the people of me,

emma has say it now is enough. and they is jewish on do on that. and these military have declare the war on the people of me, emma 6 months ago, and now they are these charging people, weapons, and my country is now in the brain of the great shipping world. and in genocide, we don't like to see that happen. so we try our best to bring all people to get in the way that how to meeting my that that at the same time it's probably 90. searching on the door was of this military. so it is just clear that the military, they are losing the power and the control, but that is for every war. now we have no government either. and the rest of the world, the governments take care of it nicely and now there's no government,

there's controlling. so we are heading into the great civil mugs on in london. would you concur with what john packer was saying that me and mar might yet spin down into being the new syria in as much as the world food program saying in the next 6 months, almost 3 and a half 1000000 people will begin to go hungry, given what john has done over covered one could see a situation where perhaps the gender is quite happy that people are beginning to go hungry and fight back as best they can on their own against corona virus. well, i was said that this is, were, this is going to be worse than syria because in the case of syria, different opposition movements, all armed against assad regime which is backed by russia,

putin because of who to maintain a naval base in celia. you know that in the case of burma we are not receiving the kind of international support you know, for of the, you know, proper strong resistance because none of the states in the burmese labor in the vicinity of burma, you know. ready come body or pile in bangladesh, asia, china, for instance, or india for that matter. none of these states has come forward with the either sensible package to and the, the country, you know, sinking further into the abyss or providing any support legitimacy for the national unity government or the people of burma to resist and essentially end the dictatorship. so, so in the case of syria, the resist the movements of, you know,

fighting ferociously and well on the case of that, most, most of the groups are using primitive homemade devices. and so we're in fact, so far worse and cbs situation last were to you john packet and also on sushi fresh charges against this week, essentially powerless. she's completely out of the picture. i guess you've got the job to hinting we'd like to work with as the end, but there's 0 trust for as the an economically the country is flat lining. it seems as if all the composite bits that we've been discussing are holy negative. there's nothing in there that might represent kind of light at the end of the tunnel. i agree that the scenarios really at the moment are almost all negative. and really that's why it's so crucial what the credentials committee, this kind of observed a small body that no one ever hears about the imaginations. it's september, we'll have before the crucial question. i say it's a test for the united nations,

because this is about the legitimacy of the united nations itself. this credentials committee, you know, they're not just to decide about some gang that shows up a people you and me and claims to speak for state. they are supposed to apply, assess this application of the, of both the representative the hunter, and also those are competing for the national unity government on the basis of the purposes of the united nations. and that's supposed to be some of the, for the maintenance of security and peace that's supposed to be for the wellbeing of the population that's supposed to be pursuant to the will of the people. if the credentials committee exercises its actual own authority under the charter, it should decide in favor of the national government, it should not decide, certainly not decided favor of the hunter. that will really be really a nail or several nails in the coffin amar. and then all bets are off and god knows what happens in the country. so this is

a crucial moment september coming up. and i really think that we have to think about here are the legitimacy of authority on what it means now. but the rule of law and for international relations more broadly gentlemen, will have to leave it there. thank you so much for joining us here on inside story . that was a very compelling conversation. thank you to, i guess they were dr. sansa, john packer and mom's johnny. and thank you to for watching, you can see the program again, the web site al jazeera dot com and for further discussion to check out our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. and also on the conversation on twitter, we are at a j, inside story. for me, piece adobe, and the entire team here. thanks for watching. we will see you very soon for the moment, but i, i news news, news,

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