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b as capital li, saca anthony paula as spokesperson for presidential candidate a con. they had dilemma and the opposition united party for national development also. and lusaka getting some last minute notes there, i can see and completing our lineup from this ambien capital. we have emma's china, he's a political spokes person for the ruling. patriotic front led by the president at gert lingo. hello everyone. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it, however, i'm going to start with you. does this have a feel of a close election? how would you describe what the atmosphere has been since you've been in country? well i think van, for me is one of those weird experience is way you arise in the country and partly because of course, 19 wave people are really allowed to open the come out and campaign as much as i would like to not really feeling that election fever on the grounds, i mean you seeing some post the here and there you things on people campaigning,
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but it doesn't feel like somebody the other listen. i felt before, but that said, when you do speak to people one on one in the ground, they'll tell you they feel that they subbing difference about the selection. they feel that thing do seem a little bit close. it could be a tight race, lots of issues on people's minds. of course, the main one being the economy and people are just watching to see what happens on thursday when they go to the votes and what the outcome is going to be. a big concern for mark or design is will they be post election violence one, resolve her mouth and if waiver loses, then accept the result. what do you see? do you, are there police? are there army? is there any type of presence like that that you're seeing who present the lingo order the deployment of the military a few days ago, off to the party said to of it supporters were killed. the opposition of also said they supported the also being i the in that and killed as well. so there is that tension on the ground, but what i've seen, i mean,
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i've driven around and you don't really see the army on the ground. you see one or 2 here and there, but the odd like visit the presence, but people know the or are they know they can be the back. it, they need to be that, that does kind of but for the hyphen mutation a little bit. but i mean, like i said, if you arrive today or tomorrow and you drive around, i live is obvious tension and violence, the garage not going to be a big heavy presence of the matri at the moment. so her, as i said, you've been in country you've been doing some reporting, i want to play something for our viewers. and for our other guest to see there has been some violence. there has been some loss of life. it's been deeply painful for some people. so i wanna play a little bit of a report that you've already sent us and we'll circle back on the other side. yeah, daniel to some with family. got a phone call, telling them to rush to the hospital. when they got the, his body was in the morgue. he supported the ruling patriotic front and was not
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campaigning for president edgarland go when he was killed. his electives and friends say he was killed by opposition supported across town. another family is devastated. medium to save us husband george. them belong to the opposition party. you p n d. he was putting up campaign posters when he was killed with a machete, allegedly by backers of the ruling parties. get up with these new stick. it hurts the way he died was cruel. i now have to look after the children by myself. i don't know what i am going to do or how i am going to manage without him. hard is that when you see what the violence does to people and the pain that it causes, are you seeing that this makes people more determined to go to the polls or does the scare some people people seem determined to go to the polls, but yes, it does came from people, i mean, even in that report, speaking to those 2 families from the ruling party and the opposition when you ask
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them when you post them, you know, to tell the story or to give the name or to can you show they face it wasn't that easy to convince them to go on the record and tell the story, the kids both sides were saying, you know what if someone sees me doesn't like what i say and they come asking me all of my family there. is that psycho tension on the crime, but that said they is i can explain that someone say to me that this feels like 1991, you know, when multiparty democracy was i should in how when to sit down and with a new faith for the country people feel there's a bit of that happening. we don't know if that's going to happen or not, but is the feel that something is different about the selection. of course we only know when people go to vote and we see who they vote for. but yes, i can face up attend. com and that easy common ground, a lot of hope, lot of optimism. but of course that concerned that if we lose the selection does accept the result. what's going to be the way for the country?
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amos, how would you describe be the atmosphere right now? what, what would you like the world to see about the atmosphere? and sam b as a selection is so close it exactly as seen when she has been on the streets over the soccer. the complete you different picture from that which is portrayed as, as tens celtic or something that shows that the country's ungovernable. and with regards to the deployment of the, i mean inforcement of security. what i would want to say, well, my sees i'm default what it is when you're on the street soldiers. you can see that . but the deployment is meant to renounce that security. so we want people to see, i'm to forward it to the country with a strong stablished democrats tradition that done. and marcia exist for a sufficiently free and fair election to take place and, and this,
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this is what the president is committing to, that not a single life, his wife, those he for, for you to choose, which is why is number one priority. the security tends to be over country and the limit as if there is no peace and stability. it is not possible for a free, unfair, rich and talker. so, so far, what we are seeing now to get ably those lives been lost. but after that, what we are seeing now is that an atmosphere for a free and fair election exist. ok, loan tested institutions of governance. i in place to conduct a free and anthony i will. okay. anthony, do you feel like the set the scene has been set for a free and fair election? do you agree with what amos is describing? well, thank you very much and i think it's done via and it's been for them. so why it's a lot of things to be proud of. and top of that, this probably is
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a long standing power and traditional here that we have been enjoying for so many years. and folks who are the sacrifice and the hard work of several generations of it is in this country. and for us, in many respects, this election is about continually about traditional he's, by this time, by way, delivering broad us social and economic justice for the 18 women, johnson. all in, in many respects, you will show it changed and done by the sole. and yes or what has been done baby bishop in this country. so the each question or the most of the exam, the at the moment you home, how mistakes that done because generally loving and that we are committed to
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ensuring that we go through the direction indicated. we generally agree that not a single life should be, should be lost, lots of shit when the election. but mostly in the sense that you will understand that broadly speaking, have reached the past 10 years have not worked for citizens and therefore a res. i didn't need for us to deliver a change or lack of confidence in the hearts of mind or citizens in the rounds that it's for the company regime to and i must ensure it's free and fair elections contributing to and must be a c and a citizen does not have the confidence that we have for the conditions necessary for the delivery of a friend very election. so attention,
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attention has been taken away by the assurance by the president and not just by speech in speech, but inaction that 1st of all you've got to our free and fair you should only when conditions of peace exist. and then i think that we, we think that a taking our violence from the political but a must. emma's i want to show up, and if i meet, let me just get, get in or for just a 2nd. i want to print something to you. that's an a report from amnesty said m c m international. i said this is a quote of what we have seen in zambia, especially in the past 5 years. is it increasingly brutal crackdown on human rights characterized by brazen attacks on any form of descent? so you're describing piece, but piece at what cost, what, what are the measures that you're using to maintain the so call piece. if you look at this in parliament, for instance, as a measure, if there is a brutal cut down on descent, it's one of the most vibrant vitamins,
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probably in the entire africa. you have a very vibrant opposition that is able to stop a constitutional be from passing into low to achieve that you need a very vibrant see was so sad that low be again, it's a government position and it's like ok, been able that that's ok. that's actually a good point. you're making, we have someone from the opposition here, anthony, do you feel that way? look it's, i think it's disingenuous and misleading to narrow commissions of the 3 and say less purely to one single aspect or 4 feet were always indicated. and i think the reports by the national and not just information have been severed, that have been issued within the country by such repeats, which points to precisely the same form which i missed in national race. yes,
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we do enjoy the mount when it comes to cracking down on the opposition is unfathomable. it is something that is unprecedented. never if civil society, which a much as the re, to, to be against government be on the records. human rights defenders have been trying to to court maddie attempting to stage not to get it, but it probably got the ring outside the parliament in this country. it is practically this faith so well. ok. one moment that just general gentleman's gentleman just a moment. so i actually, we have a lot of years that are watching on youtube too, that are really tuned in particularly to this aspect of the conversation. we have someone to basis lou who says this is the most unfair elections in the history of
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my lifetime. opposition parties are not allowed to campaign freely and the ruling parties strongholds we have a lot of comments to that effect and a question very specifically from lia columba as a question for mr. shonda and your opinion. what makes this 2021 election free and fair? and then we're going to pivot to some of the issues with the economy in a moment. but i want you to answer that amos, yes. what, what makes it unfair? because the conditions this for the, for the position to content. of course it's a coffee the election as we according it has the impact on the ruling pad in the manner that issues. although we design the campaign, we have had to move it almost 360 degrees from our we do the campaign to digital platforms. that isn't why you don't see the ring party making as much noise as the opposition does that. we do have a commission that as a part of that, that's from the government that is in place. we do have
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a great that is possibility and their position as if we are taught by the public director in one of the country not to move. you won't see us going to the media and cry about that. we suffer insight, but because they will position, do not have that bed and responsibility to that. we have you more about it should a general and everybody we as a social democratic movement, the patriot tech front. and we like to talk to people in a campaign and we want to, i mean, we are just a moment just cuz we're having a tiny bit of a technical issue with you. so while we get that straight, i actually want to go to you, hey ruth, so everyone has referenced cove it and what we see is that the number of covey cases and zambia is about 200000. that's a really, that's a high number about 3500 debts. have people said you that they feel that the coven restrictions have gotten in the gotten in the way unfairly,
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that they've been weaponized in any way to keep people from being able to organize? have you heard any frustration like that from voters? not yet, not the moment. what i picked up is that people are concerned about club at 19, but they also realize that they isn't elation and some kind of campaign and has to go ahead. so they try to balance the 2 and i'm talking about opposite noonish party . what we see, no, although specially campaigns, they've been bad, but what you see some of these people doing, for example, the opposition sometimes doing party as well. they have what they call whistle stop rally way. they go into an area and they say they had the marks, because of course, 19 to sensitize the public. but then of course, they didn't turn into bill corelli's. interesting enough prison. edgarland good today. on monday was at the airport where he officially open the new international airport, which is both by china and all the money that he followed by the countries. one of
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these can be so much in debt and hundreds of winning party supporters with there was no social discipline thing. some of them what way? mosse. so i mean, officially bay is the thing that cause a 19 b k will know, campaigning, cedric cetera. but we've seen both parties and other political parties as well. sometimes i suppose breaking the so called law to campaign ahead of the election. you know, you brought up the airport and money from china. that's a perfect segue into the, the conversation that we need to have about the economy and debt and how much debt that the country actually has. so that's the broader issue. but before we get to that, i want to play something from, from some people and say, and be, and how they feel about the economy very specifically. and how it's affecting that . and let's listen to that. so i'm gonna head for the poles in the next few days with a name, $10000000000.00 debt hang over their hands, the debt as a balloon to every vote of the government appetites to borrow and spend. recently,
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the government defaulted in its payments in itself, in the junk state, feel anything affecting the confidence of citizens and business alike and looking at the needs for the people who get ahead of these lectures. one of the most important thing they want to see how the economy is going to be lived was looking at the currency quite over the past few years. it does depreciate it a great deal. losing value has making it hard for the people to afford a meal on that table as people, especially those have been poor. and let me do the middle class income in as in the, in the, in the cities hoping to, to tend this election around and try to secure their lives now and the future that keith talks about the debt, the loans that are coming in from china. hiero, yeah, it'll get you great. wonderful things like airport. so what does it really mean for
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somebody who needs to get food on the table? what is it that you're hearing from people about how frustrated they are about inflation high unemployment and how the economy just is not stable at? well, this is something very strange when i landed here. i mean, i was lawson damn me about 5 or 6 years ago. and when i landed in the soccer, i mean, you're amazed at the infrastructure development the road to the bridges. i mean, there's new a port looks fantastic. i mean, i'm from a countries and bob we way, we think that in terms of it, without the development, we'd better all than some of the countries inside that in the region. and i was like, amazed by how far the scenes have gotten. and then i spoke to a young mother who was going shopping today for the basic no brain more cooking oil . and she says that because the economy is so bad, like inflation is high. salaries on going up as well. so people are struggling. she's got to cut back on luxuries for her and her son, as he saying, yes, she says, well, disgrace development in life roads, the nice buildings,
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but she can't eat road. she car, the big fancy airport. so that's the frustration. lots of people have at the moment trying to balance the 2 way they see, to some extent the routing part of the president, putting all of these developments, but then the countries and so much, that means the government card provides certain services for the poor, for many van bands on the ground and ultimately the money that the owning is this is not enough for them to make in the is frustration from i think many van damme from all political parties on that front when it comes to the economy. so what about that? what, what does your party? oh, the people besides fancy new airports that those are printed with development. the one points that the p f complimentary club, nice, 2011. when we came into power that they did updated infrastructure where they throw daughter nitwits airports was impacting on development as it were. that that
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the media on sunday, and we've been treated to a power infrastructure that's the main stagnant for 40th. so we have to put 750 megawatts of power because there's been an expansion in industry remaining when a center people. so you, you got to invest in power infrastructure. i've got to invest in outputs deep banks . there's been an expansion in, we're growing them, get the buckle, and all those things are powered by, by, by energy center people. it's, you cannot have a public infrastructure that does not according to it's a population. the only 2 ways of raising money, where at the personal level or national there what a business you see that debt or equity. if you don't city, you've got to go into debt. if that debt is invested in production miller and consumption these up, so you're doing nothing wrong. the government now 20212026 is moving into the micro
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situation allows or for security income levels for the people actually, you can eat frauds because no other study in this country that is bump obvious that is followed by western because people couldn't take the produce to market ok. know and mr. hey mr. making you are making the case for why infrastructure is important . obviously it is and i certainly did not imply to be dismiss. it didn't mean to seem dismissive of that, but anthony does what amos is saying? does this ring true to you, the things that he's saying, but that are important and does his government deserve more time to get this done? or do you think that people are going to say time is up and something will actually be different for your candidate who has actually run 6 times already? look, you cannot argue against the infrastructure developed because that is indeed an in spokane, washington requirement for economics. but what you can argue against and what we
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want to argue against, in this case, number one, in the model in which a big contract is a huge portion of this public that's $23000000000.00, which i believe. and one talks about the b was contrasted eagerly without elementary approval. the constitution is very clear that is to be approved by parliament and issued portion contracted after 2016 was never taken to parliament for 2 seconds. they opted for expensive commercial debt when they hobbs options for confessional financing from bilateral anthony. and i got you for that and i just, i just wanted to reach out there for one second. i'm sorry one second. i understand your candidate is a business minute and that you're talking and terms that way. but does the average person, how does what you say actually resonate with the average person who just wants to be able to afford the same groceries they could afford last year?
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so so you have talked about how into millions of possible and i thank way just oh goodness anthony wallace signal just froze there. yes. all right. and his name is name is evan said doesn't mean you get anthony's time, anthony. and we just, i appreciate what you were trying to do there, amos, but no, no, anthony, are you back? i can. okay. oh, the budget, the moment. the 3rd consequence of a huge amount of money that we stop now, because now i'm in focus is on the and a fact that rather than being money into productive arrows, are they on, i mean, such as job creation, education and public health. yet you can imagine next year,
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750000000 dollars. you're born. you do. and the government at the moment just north of that is the fact that's money. whereas we need to be focusing on investing productive economy. the economy itself is not in a state where it will be able to reach the regular general ed records to be able to afford those productive economy. and this is why we keep on making the point that they will never be asked to girls. and those are the ordinary if we do not end result the question of how the government or the all right, we asked me that that's going to have to be the final word that's go and a half and a half to be the final word hero anthony m, as thank you very much for joining us for this conversation. we'll be covering this throughout the week, leading up to the vote. you can always find this online if you go to our 0 dot com . thank you for joining us. ah,
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