so they're going to look into having see, it's instead of bowling nightclub turned into a vaccination center to encourage young people to get the jack. the clubs shut you to corona virus restrictions, but this one offered the next best thing. vaccines on the disco lights, the sound of techno and called it a long night. a vaccination does not. yes, we are still in the early hours of operation, but we are very satisfied. our concept is taking off. people are having fun and above all, they're coming pretty vaccinated. there's been no being that i think any way people get their vaccine is right. so i don't care at all as long as people get vaccinated . ah. all right, let's get around up the top stories now and i just taught a bon of catches the city of poly hungary enough, ganeth stones,

babylon province. it's the 8th provincial capital since friday this comes in, i just talked ended for the day in the hot stop, the violence. rob mcbride has more from cobbler on the phone. could be a province now to fall in a short number of days. there has been fighting in this province for the past couple of days and the security force has been public. somebody has come under pressure and it was claimed earlier by the taliban. the policies out that has not been confirmed to us, but in fact this has become the latent provincial capital to fall to the taliban. foreign minister has called on all capable citizens to join the fight into bright government, launched a military offensive in the region last year, but rebels of may territorial gains. in recently in the u. s. the governor of new york state andrew cuomo has said he will resign off to the states attorney general

alleged he sexually harassed multiple women government denies the charges, but has apologized for offending his accusing. us senators have approved a one trillion dollar infrastructure bill, the largest investment in the countries, roads, bridges, and railways in decades that vote comes off. the months of negotiation between democrats and republicans. bill wildfires are continuing to ravage large parts of the greek island of every 5 fighters now into the 8th day of battling the flames. it is the most severe of hundreds of fire which have scorched large areas of the country. one person has died in guinea of the marble virus in west africa. the 1st ever reported case the well health organization describes the virus as a highly infectious life threatening illness. similar to a bowl of those all the headlines in so i story is next news

news the climate change is getting worse. some of the damage is irreversible. un panels, latest assessment follows decades of dire warnings, but also lifting. how do we combat so called climate fatigue? and ensure action. this is in a hi there. welcome to the program. i'm can vanelle a code red for humanity, a wake up call for the world as some of the latest reactions to the biggest un

review of our woman planet since 2013. the into governmental panel on climate change says there's no longer any doubt that humans are heating up the oceans, land and sea by burning fossil fuels. some of the damage such as melting polar ice sheets and now reversible wildfires, heat waves and floods will likely become even more extreme, even if we drastically cut greenhouse gas emissions. you've been telling us over 3 decades of the dangers of allowing the kind of warm the world listen but didn't hear the wellness in but it didn't. us act strongly enough. and as a result, climate change is a problem that is here. now, nobody is safe and it's getting worse. foster at the report comes at a crucial time and ahead of a major u. m. climate summit in glasgow in november. your secretary of state anthony blank and says governments and the private sector must work together with urgency to

protect our planet, u. k. prime minister, boss johnson, whose government is hosting the summit says the report makes a sobering reading. india described. this is a clarion call for developed nations. it's urging them to take immediate steps to would reduce in carbon emissions. the european union struck a more hopeful note. its deputy climate chief said the report shows, it's not too late to turn the tide or the president of the comp $26.00 summit in november says despite the dire predictions, we still have time to limit the damage. there is one of the key message to take away from this, which is that the future of course is not yet. richard. and the very worst of climate change is still avoidable. they by, we look back to parents in 2015 world. leaders got together and said that they would do everything they could to limit global temperature rises to well below 2

degrees and aiming for $1.00. and what this report shows that 1.5 degrees is still achievable, but that it is retreating. and as you're choosing fast, ah, rapid spring in august and reading the u. k, we have richard ellen, professor of climate science at the university of reading ad, one of the author of the i p. c. c. report. in melbourne, we have granted laskey an associate professor at the national institute for global health at the university of melvin and the author of climate health and courage. and in london, tom book, chairman of e 3, g, the generation environmentalism thing. thank everyone. welcome to you all. thanks for joining us here on inside story. i'd like to go with you, mr. ellen, so that we lay out what's at stake before we get into this conversation. if the will continues on its current trajectory. the report finds that the world could warm by 2 degrees by the year 2060. what will or would that,

that will look like the sun suggesting this report is pretty clear that we're already seeing extreme rain, extreme heat intensifying. and that's just a one degrees. see above, pre industrial so the 2 degrees c o, a higher, more warm, welton, that is going to intensify these extremes even more. and as a b, as already been shown in your report stated in your report. because there's still time to avoid the worst and dangers of climate change if we act now. all right, mister tom back. why have we been so unable to change the course of the climate crisis so far? i mean, we have been talking about this for years. yeah, you're right about that, and it's not because the scientist has been telling us what we should pay attention . the military has been telling us since the end of the last century, we needed to pay attention the public because not really got very anxious as the

experience where having a fires and floods has validated their view of the science. but the people who are not listening or the politicians, we know what we need to do in order to avoid the worst kind of a fax of climate change. and we know we can afford to do it what we need now for the politicians to step up to the plate and do the policies that we need to make what's possible real mr. glass k. you know, when you, when you talk about this, we talk about wildfire is becoming more common heat waves floods. everything we're seeing at the moment is just going to get worse is they are climate anxiety. i'm wondering particularly among young people who have grown up with this information. and what does that look like? what we seen is really a triple whammy at the moment where we've got this show you the expert to saying,

so you have to buy into 1000000 use at the same time, the facts on the ground in the northern hemisphere. grace tricky burning. and here in australia we saw all these without very hall wives, some are 23rd thing that's really driving needs is the fact for all of the pan jeremy, be white. cool. i think to humanity, no charge the works. so all these things have come together and you know why once the penny draws for people that call and change the serious, stephanie, now you can see us and it crowds, a lot of stress means a lot. busy of especially when you side i you seeing that in your clinical practice . absolutely. we're having a lot of young people amongst, you know, the stress of lockdown things around and now saying

a. busy lot of maybe around climate change, very concerned about the future. and i spend quite a lot of time with them talking about the hope budget and saying is a scary taller. but you know what, we're going to need a lot of young smart people to do well at school. do well at uni and be part of the solutions and working on this urgent transformation. we may mr. tom, back on the other side. maybe not so much in the younger generation, but on the other side, are we seeing people with climate fatigue, people not caring so much because it doesn't feel like it's impacting them immediately. no, i don't think we're saying that i don't think it really isn't a problem with the public, whether the old or young polling all over the world shows arising level of anxiety as i grant was describing. but what we're seeing are the incumbents,

the people who are, who have really entrenched interest in the current energy system, digging in very deeply and resisting change. and so that's why i put the emphasis on the politicians. because in a sense, the politicians, the public needs the politicians to protect them from the efforts of low incumbents to stop us changing our energy system. ok, i want to parker and come back to how we get policy change in a minute. but i'd like to come back to you, mister allen, the report says that humans are unequivocally to blame for what we're seeing. but does, encouraging people to get engaged in climate change on an individual level. will that make enough of a difference, or does it need to be stopping those big misses at the top? does it need to be only policy down if you know what i'm think. well, yeah. so you get to the point. so in terms of individuals. sure people can

see what's going on in terms of climate change and see the science, and they can take various actions themselves. but if everyone does a little bit unfortunately will achieve only a little bit. so everyone needs to do a lot on the only way that can happen is for governance for cities, for companies to take leadership and cause large sco and rapid reduction in carbon dioxide emissions. mr. burke, we should talk about opportunities to address climate change. what are some of the most obvious opportunities that are out there right now in terms of building for a better future? i'm thinking about smart ways of building and smart ways of living. well, you're absolutely right to pick on smart ways of building the, the most rapid way and the cheapest way. and the most dramatic way we can reduce emissions is to reduce the carbon associated with heating and cooling our buildings . and that's the processing. and that should take priority, but after that,

that things we need to do are to change the pos system. basically just stop burning fossil fuels to make electricity and use the renewables and the increasing technology of storage that's available to make electricity without carbon. and then we need to get rid of very importantly next to get rid of the use of, of fossil fuels from mobility. so that means 1st and foremost, electric vehicles for cars, for light transport. but then as we go further down the pipe, we need to invest enormously in getting carbon out of shipping and getting carbon out of ation. but right now the best thing to do in transport is to get the salary deployment of vehicles. so those are the priorities for getting forward. now there are some other things we need to do that are going to be more difficult, but we need to by time that so that we get the easy things to do done very,

very rapidly. indeed, some of those things, i mean, they seem from, from the outset, just hearing about them, like quite radical shifts. i want to come back to you, mr. black ski. i will talk about the idea of collective efficacy. the idea that if we all believe that we can make a change, then there is, and if there's a societal shift towards making a change, that we can all be effective together. because a very interesting, when you look about, look at what's happening with the pandemic. you know, we all know we need to end the virus. we all know we need to get, we need to get vaccines across the world in an equal way, and yet we can't seem to do it. so what hope is there for us being able to band together to, to make an impact on climate change? well, it's really interesting is a brand new study at dr. barber patrick and colleagues over $5000.00 australia is, am i found that australians was 3 times more worried about climate change,

then come at them? i'm just really interesting i'm. that's what we're saying. yes, we said cautiously, but in the background, particularly because we experience that a huge fires in the 20 i think that is a real collective will to do something. and so definitely that collective way of approaching things is going to be absolutely essential. also think, you know, years i should never feel like i have to or can do everything on the banding together with like minded people is really essential and going to be transformational. miss allen, i want to come back to the science for a minute because some of the impacts of climate change no matter what we do from here on out there, it reversible. well, right. so it takes hundreds of years, the deep ocean to the top,

and it takes many hundreds of years with the john ice sheets to melts and come to the new equilibrium and new warm world. so sea level rise is one example of an irreversible change through already committed to maybe a few meters of sea level rise, but also over many, many hundreds of years. so thus, the many regions you can adapt to that kind of change and it's beyond human timescales. but the crucial thing to note that if we don't limit the warming of the planet to 1.5 degrees c of pre industrial, or even 2 degrees c, if 1.5 isn't possible, then they'll be an even larger rising sea level in the long term so the fact that it's a reversible still doesn't mean we, we don't need to stop doing cutting, greenhouse gas emissions. it's even more crucial to do that. i want to pause for a minute there and take a look at who some of the worst emitters are around the world. and helping them lift is china estimated to produce 30 percent of all global emissions. that's

followed by the united states, which is producing nearly 15 percent of our total carbon footprint. and also at the top of the list are india, russia, and japan. mr. burke, i want to talk about that with you. first, china's per person emissions are about half of that of the us, but because of its massive population it's far. 2 above the largest emitter, it's been criticized for its tempered response to addressing climate change. we'll see we'll take i think that china has a very big problem as do in the rush and all the other countries. and in a way, trying to sort this out in terms of per capita emissions is not a problem. carbon is fungible, wherever a carbon atom is emitted in the world is actually going to have an effect on everyone else in the world. and so we can try to get this into some sort of argument. we're not going to get far it's,

you've got to do more because you're creating more of the problem. we have a collective problem and we have to solve it together where a lot, if kind of policy fails, we old and, but isn't that exactly or isn't, isn't that exactly what's happening among countries? i mean, you have india calling this report, a clarion call for developed nations, but it self has not committed to carbon neutrality even by 2060 like china. so isn't there. but if a whole chrissy happening at the policy level, pucker see how they have good. but i agree with you, i don't think india is the indian government just helping its own people or the rest of us by turning this into a brain game. we're not going to get anywhere if nobody will act until everybody else is acting. so we really do which, why say this is a problem for the politicians to sort out. and it's a pop problem where politicians have to give a lead and you're not giving a lead when you're trying to blame somebody else or the problem. and so much as i understand why people think it's very unfair, some people created more of the problem than other people. i simply don't think

we're going to get very far, if the discussion is about who has to act 1st before anybody else that. so anyway, by the way, i was big countries, the people are going to suffer most are actually all the small countries in the rest of the world, in africa, in oceana, in those parts the world in the caribbean, especially those small island states. they're the people who are going to suffer more. and by the way, they're not the people who are issuing these brain calls for everybody else. mister laskey, one of the most constructive way to talk about climate change, the climate threat, the impacts of climate change that we're hearing right now. what is the most constructive way to talk about that in order to encourage change in action? it's a really important question because i think young polar may have got a lot on that flight at the moment. so as i said, when it came up,

the whole project may help pollyanna, hard like, magical thinking system get. but like, i'm a sure grounds. are that we need urgent action we need serious way to ship and really need to get kind out raiders before glasgow so that we have based ambitious mission, august enormous charm humanity, individuals. i think i don't think in terms of all or nothing. you know, 2 degrees live is going to be a lot less, less than 4 degrees every bit of making while actions obliged rational and the compression lessons for your purchases. pressure politicians for your learning, and also your feeling a bit overwhelmed bottle. there's a lot going on. well, while kind of a bit of a cool, if you're finding some very unsettled section, professional assistance, you know, make sure that you're looking. sure. mr. burke, if the population,

the global population is as engaged on climate change, as you say, why is that not translating into action in the policy level? is there a disconnect? i think certainly is a disconnect. i think that the politicians by large or more subject to pressure from the incumbent, entrenched interests than they are for their own populations. and it's interesting something that grant said earlier matches here in the sense that people, when they can do things together in communities, are really willing to do that, as he pointed out. and that says there's a really important role for the men, the leaders of cities to fill some of the gap in translating into problems into solutions into action. so some of the got this being left by the politicians of the national level. so i think we don't want to only look at what's going on at the national level. we need to look at what's going on in all those cities and

towns where there are loads of examples of people coming together with local leadership and really getting on with solving the problem. mister allen, how quickly will our world respond to action to a reduction in fossil fuels? talk us for a little bit about what hope there is. if we can come together and take action. it won't, it won't happen immediately, will take decades for the climate to stabilize once action is taken. so it'll take a while before we can even notice the effects. but we've got to take the action as rapidly and strongly as, as we can do. so now, and that's why i would just like to add to this assessment report from the, the ccs agreement, important because successful. the science labor 3 over 3 years. but in the final stages, the summary is for policy makers and has been agreed line by line word by word

195 countries, delegates who were involved in the approval process. so they've approved what is said in this report. so they know what the options are. and so the report like this can act as a tool resource to, you know, lead in to the, the cop 26 in class. can you k upcoming in november? so it's really crucial that they appreciate that this has been agreed and collaborated with with governments. and now it's up to governments to take the strong action and as your other, as the guests mentioned to cities, companies and getting into collected. so we can go to a bit from the government action is actually crucial. i'm very quickly. i guess it's quite actually quite a big question, but we're going to, i want to ask about climate denial on the psycho from

a psychology point of view in a little bit. but for you, mr. ellen explained to me how the science has improved in terms of being able to project forward and to actually unequivocally link weather events with climate change. because that has been a bass the and for climate denies for quite a while. but the science has really improved has in it. yeah. so he's got better longer observation records, better satellite data. and i'm not so ready. an increase in the number of extremes, intense rainfall, heat waves, butts. as you mention, it also involves physical understanding of the processes. that's getting stronger, but also, and really i find detail computer simulations that simulates all the weather patterns that could be created in killer in a particular event. and so we actually, scientists are able now especially use this is a loop oratory, where they can run hundreds of simulations with or without the warning that we've seen state and show that these events happening around the world are ready to have

you. right, in iran, for example, in china, in europe, the heat waves we can show now that they've been made more severe by the warring to, to greenhouse gas emissions. and some events would not have happened. would have been almost impossible happened in about without this warming. so there's that and these same models, the same simulations and then used to project out in the future and then, oh, perfect. but they packed with the best physics that we can pack into them. and that's why we more sure now of the regional impacts, the regional changes and climate that we can expect as, as we continue to admit, or we don't continue to admit conduct side even so incredibly, there are still climate deny is out there. mr. laskey, i mean there are some quite well known famous people who fall into that camp. but how does that happen? i mean, is there a real cognitive dissonance going on there?

where you are right there and there are actually less quantity. and i, as than you think they're also very noisy minority, strikingly no idea except all the science and except that it's driven by human 97 percent of the scientists have a consensus that human in june climate change is small number. different reasons why people getting to that strong get caught in a bit of an echo chamber on the internet, misinformation and missed some thought that it's really conflict with their well do all the politics around standing of the well and i guess some patches to be mischievous and i happy to take a country with you, but the important thing is that we're seeing the well with the facts on the ground . now, not even just morals. it's becoming more impossible on the church.

we are coming to the end of the program very quickly. mr. but i want to ask you about a minute to go. how hopeful are you for the future of our planets, for the belief that we can make a change and we can confront the stress. what we've seen all over the world from the corona virus is actually why large people, whatever that culture are willing to do, the right thing, when it's clearly explain to them what needs to be done. that's what gives me hope that we can deal with this problem. but to do that, we need latisha to give a much better lead when they're giving up the moment. all right, hey, thank you very much for joining us. hair on inside story. richard allen, grants buskie and tom burke. we appreciate it and thank you to for watching, you can see this and all about previous programs. again, anytime by visiting our website, al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, you can go to our facebook page at facebook dot com,

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