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seems to be heading inevitably towards campbell. the pentagon is sending 3000 us troops to help pull out embassy staff. charlotte better, susan campbell was more on the battle for her at residence there. we took about half a dozen page for her. oh said the same thing that they would tell yvonne in all the streets in the center of town that they had come into town. this afternoon, pushed through, they had been trying to get into the city for about a month. but they made a breakthrough cross through the front line this afternoon and they broke into the prison. they got into the police compound. they got into the governor's compound that they released all the prisoners residents telling us that that they had prison is one man said my relatives when the prison another in my house. and they could hear gunfire. but they said us driving through town. that gunfire is not coming from clashes from security force. it is, is it is celebration, reagan, fire polls are closing in zambia. we're long queues of people jamming voting centers. the high turn out indicates a tight race between president edgar and his opposition rival. i kinda hit,
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you layman pose, were meant to close 3 hours ago, but somebody in law allows those already in the queue to vote. feel as millions, cost or balance active is say, social media platforms have been restricted. algeria is observing 3 days of morning after the number of people killed and wildfires rose to at least 6 to 9. the government is appealed for international help to tackle the blazes. with many of the fires was started deliberately. rain has brought some much needed relief to firefighters on the greek island of area. far as the scorched and one half of the island, the country's prime minister, call the destruction the greatest ecological catastrophe, greece had seen. in decades. the dream is up next, looking at the impact of the delta. cobit search on health care workers. one is for you, straight off the bus. thanks. news
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. news, news. news. news, news. hello, i'm michelle. carry in for for me. okay. and you're in the stream today. the cobra 1900 delta very, and it is spreading rapidly across the united states. after a brief law cases are hitting a 6 month high for health care workers, the new surge, and mostly younger unvaccinated patients. that has been very hard to take the day, we talk to them about the challenges they face and if for joining us on you to please post your comments or questions, we will be reading them and will bring you into this conversation. so to set the stage for this conversation, i want you to listen to
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a health care worker who explains what it has been like for her. and in the words of this one, your nurse nurses stitch this. what are you afraid of most about this on coming wave? not a damn thing. what do i love to be afraid of when i worked e r i had to literally accept i was probably in and i had to accept all these other people are going to die. i scared, i'm going to be short staffed my current department, so short staffed management, putting their pants, going to have to work extra work and extra for like 6 months. single is friends and family losing friends and family with so 2020 am i afraid i can't help people. people don't want to be helped. i'm literally work in my masters and having people who couldn't past 6th grade science. tell me i'm a moron. people who have never set foot work in health care, tommy, i have no idea what cove it is really like. i have nothing left. i can't cry anymore. i can't grieve anymore. it's empty and i don't have it in me to fight. if people want to die, i'm not going to stop them. and i'm sure someone out there like maybe you shouldn't work in your job. cool. i already resigned and i suspect she speaks for maybe
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hundreds or thousands of health care workers out there. so joining us to discuss what we just saw and a whole lot more from boston, massachusetts, a psychiatrist, dr. nicole christian, rac, wait from shreveport, louisiana, i see you nurse felicia croft and from tampa, florida. doctor minot often assistant professor of internal medicine and pediatrics university. south florida. thank you all for joining me. i know that you all are busy, stressed out and the little bit of time that you have, you're giving it to us for this conversation. so we appreciate it very much. obviously need to talk about what we just saw from that a, our nurse. so i'm going to go to the psychiatrist on the panel. dr. a christian brathwaite, and before we get to that doctor, i'm going to read something that you posted on twitter something. i think our viewers need to see you said i had tested positive for co bid. i tried to be diligent about masking, but i had moments where i let my car down. now i'm isolating in my office and i can
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hear my kids crying because they can't has mommy. i feel like i had about a bad sinus infection, praying for quick recovery and everyone stays negative. so 1st of all, how are you feeling? i'm tired, very tired, but overall i'm ok fortunately i'm vaccinated so things can be much, much worse. and talk to me about what it's like having to be away from your family . actually, that's harder than having coven, my seeing my kids are hearing my kids cry outside the door or having them leave little notes for me. my, i have 2 boys. they're 5 and 7 and they're definitely mommy's boys. and so i think they're, it's hurting me probably even more than it's hurting them. knowing that the next 10 days i will be able to hug or kiss them. so it's definitely painful and, and you're confident that the fact that you're vaccinated has made this a lot less serious than it could be. i think that people need to hear you say that, 0100 percent, 100 percent. and i my husband and i are caretakers for our parents who are also
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very ill. so as soon as we were eligible for a backseat, we all got it. and because we just can't take the risk being caretakers and having young kids and i know a 100 percent, things would be significantly worse if i weren't vaccinated. so now i want to circle back to what we started off with when we were listening to that. our nurse is clearly at her wits end is does she sound like some of the health care professionals you've been talking to? what did you see and hear from what we just played? i mean, honestly, she sounds like most, if not all health care workers that i support and treatment and even those who i'm friends with, people are demoralized. they're exhausted and many health care workers are experiencing p t s d like symptoms. i want to play something else now from, from our other panel is sure. felicia crossed the i see your nurse from louisiana. felicia, thank you so much for joining us. i want to, i want to play something that we have a view as well. and then and then circle back, ok to sit tight, it's ok. the delta way that we're seeing now people are
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younger and sicker and we are intimating and losing people that are my age and younger people with kids that are my kids age that are never going to see their kids graduate. they're never going to meet their grandkids. i can't explain the feeling of it. when you do everything, you put everything into a patient and it's not enough. and then to know that they kind of gotten vaccinated and it kind of made a difference and it can't be easy to, to see, to reflect and see yourself in that moment. how often have you had moments like that they really come and gone a lot through the whole period. but they've been coming
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a lot more frequently with this group of patients. just because these are people that are relate to more on a personal level. because they're my age, we have people that are graduated with or that i graduated last year or 2 ahead of me. you know, people that my kids go to school with their kids and. and it's just, you know, some of them have been my co workers that we've had in the hospital and it just made it very, very different. it's next level. just let me ask you something. you brought up a really good point that i want to ask. are you surprised? i don't know for sure. and how would you describe how you feel, finding out that there's so many health care workers that also are resistant to getting backs. and it does that surprise you some of it because some of them i know personally, and it does surprise me that they're so resistant. and so very open about reading some of the information that a lot of people are seeing because some of the things i see some of the health care
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workers posting are things that i've researched myself that i have found to not be true. and that's very difficult, and i feel like that puts us as health care workers and a very difficult situation because we're not just fighting against a virus. it's almost like sometimes we're fighting against each other and we're not going to get anywhere. you talk about that fighting against each other. i want to bring in doctor ross on into this conversation. now. it seemed like at the beginning of this pandemic that, that everybody was seeing health care workers as heroes, were buying the meal, sending meals to the hospital, doing all sorts of things in there seems to have been a definite pivot. now, does it feel like that there are some people that, that are against you? now? i wouldn't necessarily say against us, but i do think that as, as mentioned previously, the,
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the pandemic has shifted. i think when we 1st started this pandemic, i have been taking care of cobra, 1900 patients since the beginning of this and march and taking care of patients from my youngest patient was 9 days old. and the oldest was in the ninety's. and i think that there has been a definite shift. i think you're right, that at the beginning, you know, people were clapping and begging on pots for health care workers. i think now we are seeing, it's not that people are fighting against us, but there's a lot more to navigate in terms of the misinformation out there. so i'm going to ask you this to, are you having to navigate politicians and i'm not trying to drag. you into politics, but we can't separate the 2 because unfortunately, this pandemic has been politicized. the state that you're and specifically, the governor has mandated against the mass mandates and there are school systems that are telling him we don't care. we're going to do what we think is right. how
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does that make you feel of the health care work on any level? do you feel that it's sabotaging some of the work that you all are faced with? i think it's frustrating, i think as a, as a physician who we believe in science, we know how this virus is spread and we know that masks work, that vaccines work. so to hear, not just the general public, but especially our leaders kind of help these messages not supporting that it is frustrating and it feels that a lot of, as beside previously, a lot of this could be preventable. especially here in florida, it has become a very politically charged topic masks in schools. but i really think that a lot of the local school boards around the state have taken it into their own hands like where i live in hillsboro county. you know, the counties have come up with plans to have an opt out plan for masks. so parents actually have to physically off their children out from wearing
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a mouse in school to have to wait to navigate around some of the legislation. that is, is there in place, actually i'm gonna, i'm gonna let governor rhonda santa says speak for himself. let's listen to then we believe this is a decision for the parent to make just given the, the uncertainty about what it means, particularly for a lot of the young kids to be in that. and i think that's where the vast majority of the districts, i know we have, i think, to who, who are not providing the parents with the rights but. but obviously we believe that the parent rather than the government should ultimately be able to make that decision. i wish i knew i was trying to show you go ahead. i fully believe in the right to choose 100 percent. i think you know we live in america and we're based off the right to choose. but i also can say with glaze children, a lot of parents will be there on thursday. there are many,
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many parents that are amazing and that will, you know, keep their kids home out of an over abundance of caution. and i think that's wonderful. but i also know we have a lot of parents that are not in a position financially or family support wise to be able to do that. and we have a lot of parents that don't give their kids channels in the school. and i feel like sending our children that are not able to be vaccinated yet to school without any form of perfect protection is just asking for trouble. you know, and that the reason i was actually going to come to you is because the governor of your state and police actually did back track when he realized, you know, what, we need to get a little tougher on mass. governor de santis has not done that. i'm the governor of arkansas, at least said that he felt like he had made a mistake. so how did it make you feel? felicia, when you felt like ok, maybe these leaders are, are realizing what, what's at stake and some of them at least have enough courage to say, ok, let's let me, let me. i made a mistake. i think that is huge. you know, as
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a parent, as an official, i think everybody needs to be able to realize when they've made a mistake and own it. and i, you know, i fully support or government officials, you know, i'm a devout christian and the lord tells me to submit to the governing authorities and i am going to respect their decisions and their choices. but i have so much more respect for somebody that can come back and say ok, maybe we need to take us to act. am dr. christian abraham. what you, what i saw you nodding your head, go ahead. yes. and i think it's important to separate individual choice from public health when we're thinking about safety. it's annoying when we're going into the airport and we have to take off our shoes and we have to do back searches. but we recognize as a nation after $911.00, that was for the safety of our country, wearing masks and vaccinating is the same thing. this is for the safety of our country and the safety of our children. and so when we're thinking about public health, we really need to separate what's, what's necessary and what ok for,
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for the greater good. and this is very different, and i think people are making government officials, individuals are making a big mistake when we're thinking about mental health of children and thinking that masking is more dangerous than cobit and we still don't even know the full long term effects of the neuro psychological, the mental health and the physical effects of long term corporate infection. doctor, how are you helping no doctor off and go ahead and i wanted to jump in on that. absolutely 100 percent agree. i think you know, this motto of my body. my mask has been thrown around and i think that's really dangerous. when you think about that in, in regards to public health, we have seat belt laws. we have no endorse smoking laws. we have like you said, airport checks. we have so many things in place to protect public health and this is a very similar situation. it's not just about individual choice at this point. as a pediatrician, you know one of the frustrations prior to all of this was you know,
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childhood vaccinations and the anti backs are movement. and so as a pediatrician i've been having this discussion for years with parents about the important to backseat. and, you know, we don't see people with polio anymore. we don't see people with techno or protests us because we have vaccines that work and have saved lives. we don't see neonatal meningitis to the extent that we did previously, vaccines work and you know, it, this is the intersection of individual choice and public health is i think, where a lot of the argument comes from and where the waters become mighty. for some people, you know, you're, when you're talking about actually no, no, go ahead or no. i think also we have gotten into our mindset as a nation. you know, this is about me and this is about my body. and this is about how i feel about what should be happening in my body and when you go into my body. but the thing is you're putting something out of your body that's affecting other people. so that's
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like if you have the blue, you stay home, you know, if somebody has smallpox, why that's something that was a radical. and now with a max movement, we're starting to see some cases pop up here and there. and this is something that can hurt other people. i have a 10 year old son that's not eligible to vaccinate and he has asthma and he's going to school with a math, whether it's mandated or not because it's to help protect others. even those other people not may or may not be protecting. yeah. so let me put some numbers out there when we're talking about vaccines. i'm so far about 194000000 americans have gotten at least one dose. that sounds great. flip side, though 90000000 eligible americans were made and vaccinated. so that's where you want to know where that gets us. that gets us in the last 2 weeks. we have 1500000 new cases in 7000 debt and the past 2 weeks. we are absolutely going backwards. dr . christian graduate. how do you help your clients who are her,
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who see this and feel like how in the world can i possibly be here? again, i know some of them want to quit, some of them have. what do you tell them? i mean, honestly it's, you know, it's a challenge and health care and i'm sure that the other panelist can speak to this . we were taught to put ourselves 2nd. we're taught to de, prioritize our personal mental health and prioritize our colleagues that our patients and i understand that. but at this point many health care workers are saying, i'm enough of that. i'm not, i am not putting myself 2nd, my family matters. i, i remember, you know, in the beginning of the pandemic, many physicians at that point were making will, and were talking to other family members about who would care for their children if they died. because the fear of walking into the hospital and dying was a very real reality for most frontline workers. and now as a psychiatrist, i'm a child and adult psychiatry. so i see the physicians and the health care workers, and i also see their children. and that fear is coming back that, that into
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a tory anxiety before they walk into work, the nausea, the headache, the physical symptoms all about is coming back because of the profound helplessness that comes with treating coded and, and again, we need to recognize that the prevention is how much more effective than the treatment we still haven't made significant gains and saving people once they're integrated with covered and, and a lot of our physicians and health care workers are just saying, i don't know if i can continue to put my, my mind in my body on the line for this again, and i know some people are wondering, you know, how, how are we here again when there's so many people that are vaccinated, it's because by and large, the, and vaccinated people are what's driving this. and it's what, it's what caused the, the delta, the delta vary and i'm actually going to play something from a, a dr. lsu. and then i want you to pick up on the, on the other side of this dr. awesome. cuz i want to make sure i'm understanding her correctly. ok. so let's listen. ah,
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everybody thinks it's not going to be me. i'm really healthy. it's just not going to be me. unfortunately, the delta variant has proved us wrong. this year's virus holds on more tightly infects to more deeply and as making young people say, this delta varian is going to affect us all very differently. we all need protection for ourselves because more of our age group will become severely. and most importantly, because when you get vaccinated, you spread it and when you spread it last you in the search. so dr. often the variant or these variance are happening because it keeps mutating because people are not vaccinated. is that right or my oversimplifying? know you're stating it correctly, you know, as big as a virus transmits from one person to another. there's an opportunity for it to mutate and that's what we're seeing with this self area. and it's, you know, some mutations that have caused it to be more contagious. and impact younger people
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differently. i think the physician in the video said it very nicely that and i've been saying this from the beginning, but i can't, we can't predict as healthcare providers who is going to get really sick from this virus. we can guess based on your cobra abilities, but i can't tell you why a 35 year old ends up on a ventilator and a 90 year old does not. those are genetic variations, that biochemical variations that, you know, maybe studies in 5 years, 10 years. what we will find out, but right now i can't. so the safest insurance way for us to protect ourselves is to get back to needed. and it's really frustrating, i think as, as dr. backlit mentioned earlier, we are feeling it as health care providers on the front lines right now. the frustration of, you know, seeing young people getting intubated, getting very close to innovation. having code talks, which is, you know,
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would you like to be resuscitated? would you like to be integrated with younger and younger families because families cannot visit coded units because the patients are contagious. we are feeling that frustration right now that this could be, could have been preventable. and i think it's really causing on top of the burn out that we're feeling from working longer hours and you know, more shifts and all of that, we're feeling a sense of, you know, it's difficult. it's a mixed bag of emotions. felicia, do, who do you have to? this is a personal question, but i'm really who do you have to talk to when you have really bad days? i, it's obvious you're a woman of faith, but do you actually have somebody you're able to talk to to help you deal with this? i do i my husband is wonderful and very, very blessed. he is
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a paramedic, so he is also medical and so he sees the care from outside the hospital to me and then i pick up where he lives off. but he is somebody that i can really just share, you know, when i'm, when i'm just overwhelmed and i don't understand what people just can't get or you know, why people don't want to really know the truth. and he can really just kind of, he just listen, he does that. he doesn't try to fix that. he doesn't try to have the right word. he just let me get it all out and then go take my shower and then i can let me ask you this. so if we, if we keep in this pattern for i don't know how long will we go up and down it up and down. can do you want to continue to be and i see you nurse, do you ever think maybe i don't know how long i can do this because it feels like the world is asking a lot of all 3 of you. i love my job. i love working and
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i see you, i love the people that i work with. we have a really great team and we help each other a lot and that makes the hard days a little bit easier. and we get to celebrate our victories together. but it is difficult and you know, it's just every day, every day, the new day and i try to just remind myself, i have a little devotional that i listen to by a guy named paul white every morning on my way to work and just kind of helps clear my head and remind me that gods mercy's renew every day. and that today is going to be different. it might not be better, but it's going to be different and it's going to be new opportunities. and i just use the i c u and my mission field and i'll be there as long as the lord have me there. really, the only thing right now that would would make me change would be the hours. i have a daughter that just started high school today. my kids are there very,
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very active and it's hard with me working 12 hour shifts and my husband working 24 hour shift for us to be able to be there for all the things that we need to be there for. but it wouldn't be because of what we're seeing now that would make me late, but it doesn't make me tired. ok. and dr. nicole, if i can call you that, what we were talking about, what health care workers are going through. you touched on something that we're almost out of time. i should've brought this up sooner by i'm very curious. what might this do in the long run to kids being in and out of school being it's there, it just feels also negative right now. so what should people be on the lookout for when it comes to kids? sure, so, i mean, i, i think, and we've probably all seen this an adult as well. stress leads us to regress. and i would not be surprised if we're seeing ourselves aggress a little bit over these last couple of years, but certainly our children and with this new school year, everyone was hoping we would return to more more normal. see,
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i'm not sure what the school year will look like. so kids really strive with structure. it gives me structure consistency, things that are predictable and providing as much of that structure and support and love as possible. even if everything in the outside world is changing. sure. don't have dinner at the same time. bedtime is still the same time, at least still having certain very predictable things with their schedule and their day helps to reduce some of that stress. but we really should not be surprised if we start to see kids regress 2 behaviors that we are seeing last year. and i think that structure might be good for some adults as well. thank you all for the conversation. thank you for everything you do. dr. nicole, please take care of yourself. i know this is going to be hard, few days for you, but thank you all very much appreciate it. and dr to call christian break brathwaite. felicia croft and dr. me and all often and thank you for joining us for today. show that's all of our time for now. see again so ah
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al jazeera. when ever use all the news hello nor entire in london, the top stories on our era. taliban has seized control of more major cities in afghanistan, goes me, which is just 3 hours from the capital. became the 10th provincial capital to feel fall in less than a week. they also claimed her at the 3rd largest city, and there's also fierce fighting in the countries 2nd biggest city kandahar. the advance seems to be heading inevitably towards cobble. charlotte bellis is there with more on the battle for her route. it is a huge price. as you.

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