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talked to who are getting on the next slide out. there is a lot of uncertainty at this point to be americans coming back a little back and saying, are they going to come back to defend us when, in fact, nor are they coming back with minimal forces to protect their own embassy and then get out again well, the u. n. is warning of an unfolding humanitarian catastrophe of cross have gone astute on hundreds of thousands of people have been displaced by recent fighting and are arriving in refugee camps. and border crossing between pakistan and afghanistan has been forced to briefly close. angry travelers threw stones at security forces, who responded with tear gas one i've gotten travel or died while waiting to return home via the spin bull that crossing the u. k. prime minister bores johnson has held an emergency meeting to discuss the situation in afghanistan is promising not to turn his back on the country and insist that he was proud of the british role in the complex. earlier nato ambassadors met to discuss reducing their south at
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embassies in couple thailand struggling to control its biggest wave of covered 19. yet more than 23000 new cases were reported on friday. a record increased for the 2nd day in a row authorities or warning. the number of cases could double by early next month . 22 people have been arrested in algeria. suspected of being behind many of the wildfires there, the government says in struggling to contain them and has appealed for international assistance. there will be 3 days of national mourning for the 69 people killed turkeys president reads if i ever, or tuan has declared disasters in northern region, hit by floods where at least 27 people have died. heavy rain hit black sea provinces earlier this week. the news hour is at the top of the hour right here on al jazeera, but up next it's inside story. ah,
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ah, ah, easier time and it all ready on the intense pressure base is yet another challenge . rebel fighting history can take re joining forces with on 5 is from his own ethnic group. how much the threats as opposed to office tense. this is inside the ah hello and welcome to the program can vanelle months of violence. and if you appears to re breach and have highlighted the growing ethnic divide,
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awaken to own rivalry and produced aud alliances and nobel peace prize winning prime minister. the others might be complicating things even further. earlier this week he called on in his words, all capable, if yo peons to join the army and stop the regions rebels once and for all. but in a twist of events, the 2 great people's liberation front, the t p l f responded by joining forces with another rebel group, the aroma liberation army to fight the government. it leads the conflict is no longer contained in one region. and there are growing fairs, it could lead to an all out civil war. the european government condemns this latest escalation. no group can claim to be for the people for a while. it is using or it is killing the people of the region for its individual political gave. and no entity can also claim to be for the people of the guy where it's also killing its own people. and holding them hostage where it's on political gaze. let's not also forget that a t p left richard killed,
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displaced and disappeared many or more youth brandishing them as part of their shiny organization. so i don't believe that the youth of me or region are in alignment of this as well, because this is an alignment of to a terrorist organization. now, the aroma liberation army is the military wing of the aroma liberation front political party. if your largest ethnic group says it suffered a long history of oppression, dating back a century in 2015, planned to expand the capital or the sub a ball further into aroma. farmland triggered 3 years of protests and a violent repression. this eventually forced the resignation of the prime minister and paved the way for i'll be on it and romo himself. but somehow accuse him of neglecting the community, just like the leaders of the past. that take away people, separation from tis the product of the marginalization of the 2 great ethnic
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minority more than a century ago. but the group dominated national, if you'll be in politics the 30 years until it became prime minister in 2018. the current violence is partly a result of a power struggle. at the end of november, the government announced its forces had taken control of take res, regional capital mckelly, that the conflict took a stunning turn in june. when to graham voices took back mechanic and government soldiers withdrew. since then the rebels have pressed into the regions of a far in the east and i'm horror in the south. the. by the spring in august, joining us from cambridge, we have william davidson. if your be a senior analyst at national crisis group from the sub abbas sam, you'll get a to from a who is a journalist from if you, if you and from london, while alo, senior electra in law at kill university, a very warm welcome to you,
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will thanks for joining us here on l. just inside story i thought to begin with you william davidson, just got out of you with an understanding of how powerful the around the liberation on the actually is and how significant is this development. i think it's a significant development because it's the 1st time a major opposition if i'm position for a showing and it's supported, willing and willingness to allies with it to grand forces which are showing their capabilities and increasingly on the offensive outside of t grey as they try and pressure the federal government to come to the negotiating table on that terms and ultimately push for a transitional government. and the remote liberation army is an increasingly important or no opposition. actor. it's apparent, increase in popularity and capability comes as and after the major remote
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opposition party remote federalist congress. your liberation front. they don't participate in the recent election alleging government repression. and that seems to have led to an increasing focus on the oral abrasion army. and indeed, they have shown signs of increasing capability, okay, very significant political lines. what we haven't seen yet is whether the o l. a really has the same sort of military take ability as to pick rand forces have demonstrated. and that will be crucial, of course. so you'll get it, you would like to bring you in. once you take on how this alliance might potentially deepen this conflict, you know, us. so we did that. you know, it's a huge coalition milestone in this conflict. but you also have to understand the partnership is only based on 2 bytes. it's not a partnership per se to get into this conflict. the difference between the t p and
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left and where they then night or the last 27 years before the prime minister came to par. they were fighting against the government, the people that coalition government. so while it's kind of shipment, i have to say, i mean, i don't think it's grand or a huge us. it's being made out to be because the partnership is just at the beginning stage and it might not go forward. i mean, we just have to wait and see, but the children side is a thing that they have more ground or a bigger coalition to fight on their whole pulled, that they will defeat the oil and they and that's where we are at the moment. but this conflict says move on, and more people are certain to be affected by this coalition or the conflict moving forward. i will follow what's your, what's your take, what's your assessment of this of this and ions?
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do you see both sides expanding their fights to other areas in ethiopia? i think this is an enormously significant development for 2 reasons. one, these are the 2 forces that have a very common strategic goal, thomas, for the future direction of the country. both normally ration army that is widely supported now by the ottawa population, which is the largest, if any questions and tina cuba and to go to different forces agree on a federated future for the 3. so the fact that you have that strategic political alliance is significant, and on the, on the, on, on the back of the report is going to last. we now have a military alliance between the 2 forces to take on the trip in the to be in government. and also it's important from kind of a graphical point of view because the forces from the northern part have already
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shown that a strain to that. what the force of the to be and military and the region. so troops probably a category. so they have proven to be a force to reckon with now they are into, into a partnership with the automotive ration army that is, that is operating in the western and eastern part of the company. i think for mr. from a kind of graphic point to you also get the 2 forces strategic advantage. and i think when you look at the political landscape and also these military collisions while we are looking at, it's probably my view of the beginning of the end of the abbey. i'm willing to come back to you. how do you think that the government will be viewing these developments? and i think that's very, very clear. and partly because they're both these organizations, as in the last 2 grades, ruling party and the remote liberation on the government calls it shiny. and both
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of these organizations have been classified as terrorist organizations. and so i think, you know, that designation simplifies just how badly this transition has gone. the idea of this transition was to create a more inclusive political space any. yeah. and then come to some form of arrangements about the countries future. instead, these actors who have an understanding of ethiopia that it should be organized as a multinational federation. they have been increasing excluded. and indeed, the last and the 2 grand forces now find themselves in a civil war with the federal government. as a result says, you know that full out, we've had the paris designations now that. 3 the 2 grand forces one, the offensive to try and force the transitional government, which is some think the allay had also been trying to achieve. what we're saying
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here is an intensification and an expansion of ethiopia, civil war. it is very hard to say, i think as samuel correctly described, you know, just how meaningful this alliance is going to be. and as, but as i well says, you know, this could be the end of government, but what we know for sure is it, this is going to lead to that intensification of the fighting, increasing devastation, not just for the people actively involved in the combat, but also civilians and the threats that the already is severe closed is stability that we've seen could get even worse as this conflict wide. so you'll get it to how embattled is the e p o p, an army. at this point. i mean, it's been a challenge. i have to admit, but i would have to disagree with are low in terms. so this
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a more you that signed by p, p, f and oil, les being the beginning of the end of their prime minister. if that's an indication start, it says the end of his euro. i think that's wrong on the wrong assumption. but you know, in terms of the ciocca army, they did face challenges, but you know, the children army is one of the strongest within the africa. and i mean, it will, you know, the prime minister has called for, you know, young people to join. you know, it's a challenge to drive remains to be a be challenging aspect of the new prime minister was just the next it, i mean you, we can disagree on how the process of the next and so on. but i'm just saying in terms so him being and like that. but i think the government is that determination is there. they have the numbers. but you know, they can really make
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a comeback. and, but you know, i have to recognize in terms ofa. lets get into different regions including the regions regents as the, as an indication that the army is not really performing plan according to the children government. i want to pick up on that samuel, about the talking about the me have not performing as it should. you did refer to as one of the strongest on these on the, in the region. a new amnesty report came out, i believe, just in the past few days, detailing widespread rape and sexual violence carried out by the ethiopian defense force. and the era trained defense force, and i quote, soldiers and militia subjected to grand women and girls to rape gang, rape, sexual slavery, sexual mutilation, and other forms of torture, often using ethnic slurs and death threats. i mean that is, that is damning. how has the government responded to those allegations?
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the government, the children government is assisting that there is going to be an open investigation done along with the united nations. i hope that's will become the reality. i'm not sure if there's going to be resources because allegations are box that positions are not just with a few open army. it's with us. well, at the t p, you know, i've read the reports from the international that came out the few days ago. international has its own shortcomings, but i respect some, i've read the reports, but the i mean the investigation has to be, you know, between all sides. and, you know, i've been to the, to great region. i've said this before. negations are, you know, just within a certain group, it's with old sites and i hope i'm not going to nice not, we'll have a bigger investigation. so we know exactly what happened. and we can have a roadmap. busy where we can go humans, or if you open, right, i will,
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i to bring you in any reaction that you have to samuel's take on this report from amnesty international. i'm interested and also where do you believe the beginning of this conflict really lay where the integrate was in or me. can you explain that to us? yeah, sure. so the conflict is basically ideological in nature is differences of opinion on the fruit of that action. the country has to take, you have on the 100 prime minister, one to synchronize power and wants to return what he's a glorious past of the to get a state of the vision of the future that most people integrated into parts of the country do not agree with, on the other hand, you have a vision that is upheld and endorsed by the majority, your police can force is integral in other parts of the country which,
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which basically calls for a federated in your way or region. and i want to be respected and people that have distinct would have the right to use the language, promote the culture, govern themselves of the region. i mean it, it is this class of visions that have lived to the company. and this was essentially started when the prime minister essentially tended to police and intelligence and court system to marginalize the operator to the position and go after the migration army in the west and pot where. busy when the prime minister went to walk into, right, he has to get into a full scale american petition with the support of the eric because he could not do what he beat me. yeah. the guy with fairly independent, it was very what i was in a position to defend itself. little this class of vision. i think this what started
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in some way i made the point that the trip, the military was one of the strongest military in the whole harvey can i agree with him and it was the kid that until recently it was one of the most i think it's a $34.00 with significant reputation externally and what the pi mr. deed taking the country to the swab without, you know, meaningful concentration of what the consequence of this, why would it be? is to undermine not only the reputation of the military, but almost all the states and the situations. the military that it presents about 110000000 people with the support of the army was force it by defense force. that's because of the region of 6000000 people and i think that send us a very negative signal to fade some falls of the food benefit in the region. so. so although the military is fairly strong recently, i think it is no longer in
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a position. now to even defend itself from, from bible forces and from organized for since i was in the country in terms of the obligations of human rights in the report. and i think the report actually only be used to scratch the surface abuses that we have heard about the body is witness testimony. have been in the media. it was shocking. and you know why maybe to the body forces that are complicit. but the fact that the military that is responsible and i'm sorry that was responsible, i have not properly wanted to account for these atrocious crimes. and i think that face quite a lot about the views of the aisle qualities in the military. so william davison, i don't come back to you, we're talking about the era tray and defense forces for international audience. we
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should explain our trained forces fighting on the side of the e. c. o, b, and government. despite many calls for them to withdraw. what is eritrea is interest? here? they are try a military has actually significantly withdrawn from the complex integrate another around the same time as it is. federal government withdrew that was launched due to the surgeons of the 2 grand forces. and now eritrea is and thought to be largely protecting areas of northern take, right, nor beneath that it claims as, as its own, but are disputed. i think i traced motivation was similar to the federal government and wanting to see the back of the t t l. s. as a political force, that's why they joined the federal intervention. but really the significant thing here is we see these paris designation by the government. we see the calls for every able bodied citizen, to join the fight against
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a t p. last and against the away, we see the call for militias and extra federal troops and regional. but this is in the context of this war, where we have seen these many reports of human rights abuses and essentially integral and essentially to, to grant people have stood by their leaders and stood by 2 grades rights to or told me. it's a similar situation in or mid the government may designate the terrorists, but what the overlay represents has considerable support from the people. so was the federal government presents itself as legitimate, and therefore these, your counter insurgency campaigns as legitimate and just the problem is that they are going up against huge numbers of people. that is why they are going to be, that is why they have been so devastating so far, both in or me and into right. and that is why this intensification is said to be so deadly. these are not just small cliques of terrorists. they've actually relatively popular armed insurgencies. so no,
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get you on that point around the liberation army leader comes that he says there's going to be a grand coalition against i'll be met and that other groups will join in. do you foresee that playing out? i don't think so. what i know for certain is this conflict is not going to end anytime soon. there might be different coalitions, again, between keeping up in the way and they just em or you, it was signed by 2 different functions or a different day and night. and we don't think there will be any, any kind of coalition to defeat ethiopia. there certainly lots of people that you know, see job becoming like the former yugoslavia like somalia, like the house to done some of the, you know, nations got their independence but didn't really achieve their objectives. but i think he took that we'll move on to the, from this complex because he remains an important nation,
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a 110 minute people are almost that's. and we're going to begin to see i hope at the end of the tunnel. because again, this conflict, the endless conflicts within, within the continence as really is not in the interest of our confidence. there are many, many people that has property and i've been to some of the towns all no mention william might have mentioned including within the oral me on nation over go to me at states. and they are just really, really sorry. i was in the a year ago trying to understand that misgiving they have with the governments with and it was, it was the real shock and i hope that will move forward from this concert. i will. okay. i will follow if we look regionally won't roll or what role is or should the african union be playing to try and find a way out of this conflict. before i comment on that point,
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i just want to say just one, want to make my one point on what is say, some will kind of framed the conflict and to be asked one between e t o b and some some forces. i think it's a very problematic characterization. this is the view that is kind of promoted by the prime minister, who doesn't even have a popular mandate. he was elected to the election where the prime minister essentially alone. but it's not a conflict between ethiopia and some 40 that conflict between 2 forces in europe. yeah. that are in the shop on, in sacrament, on the future direction of the country. i think i think that that is very important . but in terms of that all the african unique were play and the regional consequences or the complete it will be the largest country in the region of the country that's responsible for regional peace and stability who has been playing
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very significant sports. we stab lighting some of these countries, i think the, the consequences of front of the confrontation for antagonism further violence would be significant for countries in the region. we already have border conflict between sudan and europe. yeah. there are some issues between the job and social done. we don't know to what extent relations between the 2 states and they to the state would continue as they are currently, especially given that to grasp our control. ready the region to, to, to the north. so the, the, the consequences for the region is significant in terms of the role of the african union. i think that's good and has proven it's effective in terms of dealing with conflicts within member states. the qualitative after the african union declared
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that whenever there are a food stamp applications with water cry, i'm trying to get it to mind. if the genocide isn't increasing, the union is mandated to intervene and to protect and protect the population in the european conflict. what the african union essentially is side with the government and try to play down are close to being committed. so it's not clear to what extent the you look at you in a car, a reliable, reliable carter for peace, national community needs to take a more active role with thank you much that we will have to live there for time. big, thank you to all of our guests william davis and samuel get you and i will hello and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website just or dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a de inside story. it also join the conversation on twitter handle is
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