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empire with the president asking indigenous people for forgiveness for the abuse is inflicted by spanish colonialists. hundreds of residents have been watching a light show illuminating a replica of the aspect temples. millions of mexico's indigenous people die off the spanish invasion in the 15, hundreds, 500 years on the spanish conquest is still being debated. the president lopez over a door calling it an unmitigated failure to disaster during this disaster data. cliff, some data scruffy, whatever you want to call. it allows us to argue that the conquest was the founding failure record of our most. we remember the fall of the great to not lend an offer forgiveness. the victims, the catastrophic gospel, the spanish military occupational missile america, and the current mexican republican. ah,
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let's take you through some of the headlines here now just there, and now i've gotten a sense president says he won't give up the achievements of the past 20 years. as the top bond claims more provinces surrounding the capital, in the brief televised, the dr. sasha viney said he's speaking with local leaders and international partners about how to prevent more instability and violence. meanwhile, just south of cobbled with holly bothers, captured. another provincial capital, shadonna. charlotte bennett has more on the kinase address from cobble and there was a lot of talk here this morning that this was going to be a resignation speech that he was under a lot of pressure. and that he was addressing the public in order to explain what he was going to do next to that did not happen. it was more a speech of reassurance. he said to his people, i know you are worried, we are doing everything we can to look. i'll see you. he thanked security forces, you said way prioritizing the coordination of security forces and he said,
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i will do everything in my power to stop. so the blood shoot, the big question is, what does he intend to do to stop this further bloodshed? he did mention that he is in consultation with local and international policies. and those negotiations are ongoing residents in algeria seal, surveying the devastation officer recent wild 555 years of managed to put out all 5 in this province, but still off 35 other flare ups elsewhere. the army has been deployed to help fight the 5. at least 71. people have been killed. us government scientists say july was the hottest month ever recorded in the world. it's another indication that climate change is intensifying. this comes as wildfire rage across the continents. the data showed july was asia hospice month. nicole to its inside story. now news
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news, news news easy. okay. the old very on the intense pressure base is yet another challenge. rebel fight history config. re joining forces with on 5 is from his own ethnic group. how much with threats as opposed to offset tense, easier. this is inside the ah, ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm kim vanelle, months of violence. and if you, if he is take re breach and have highlighted the growing ethnic divide,
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awakened to old rivalries and produced aud alliances and nobel peace prize winning prime minister b. s. might be complicating things even further. earlier this week he called on in his words, all capable, if he opens to join the army and stuff, the regions rebels once and for all, lot in a twist of events, the 2 great people's liberation front, the t p l f responded by joining forces with another rebel group, the aroma liberation army to fight the government. it means the conflict is no longer contained in one region and there are growing fairs. it could lead to an all out civil war. the if you appeal government condemns this latest escalation. no group can claim to be for the people for a while. it is using or it is killing the people of the region for its individual political gains. and no entity can also claim to be for the people of the guy where it's also killing its own people. and holding them hostage where it's on political gaze. let's not also forget that a t p left richard killed,
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displaced and disappeared many or more youth brandishing them as part of their shiny organization. so i don't believe that the youth of me or region are in alignment of this as well, because this is an alignment of to a terrorist organization. now, the aroma liberation army is the military wing of the aroma liberation front political party. if you are the largest ethnic group says it suffered a long history of oppression, dating back a century in 2015 planned to expand the capital or the sub a ball further into aroma. farmland triggered 3 years of protests and a violent repression. this eventually forced the resignation of the prime minister and paved the way for i'll be on it and romo himself. but so now accuse him of neglecting the community, just like the leaders of the past. that take away people's liberation from tis the product of the marginalization of the tape re ethnic minority more than
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a century ago. but the group dominated national, if you'll be in politics the 30 years until it became prime minister in 2018. the current violence is partly a result of a power struggle. at the end of november, the government announced its forces had taken control of take res, regional capital mckelly. that the conflict took a stunning turn in june, went to grandfather, took back mechanic and government soldiers withdrew. since then, the rebels have pressed into the regions of a far in the east and i'm horror in the south. the for the spring in august. joining us from cambridge, we have william davidson. if you're a senior analyst to international crisis group from the sub bar, samuel get a true from a who is a journalist from if you're here and from london, while alo, senior electra in law at kill university. a very welcome to you will. thanks for
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joining us here on l just i was inside story i thought speaking with you william davis and just got out of you with an understanding of how powerful the around the liberation on the actually is. and how significant is this development? i think it's a significant development because it's the 1st time a major opposition position for showing support is willing and willingness to allies with the to grand forces which are showing that capabilities and increasingly on the offensive outside of t grey as they try and pressure the federal government to come to the negotiating table on their terms and ultimately push for a transitional government. and the remote liberation army isn't increasingly important. or no opposition, actor. it's apparent, increase in popularity and capability comes eyes and after the major remote
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position parted, the remote centralist congress, your liberation front, they don't participate in the recent election, alleging government repression. and that seems to have led to an increasing focus on the liberation army. and indeed, they have shown signs of increasing capability. okay, very significant political lines. what we haven't seen yet is whether the o l. a really has the same sort of military take ability as to pick rand forces have demonstrate that will be crucial, of course. and you'll get it, you would like to bring you in. once you take on how this alliance might potentially deepen this conflict. you know, us. so we did that. you know, it's a huge coalition milestone in this conflict. but you also have to understand the partnership is only based on 2 bytes. it's not a partnership per se to get into this conflict. the difference between the t p and left and when they day and night or the last 27 years before the prime minister
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came to power. they were fighting against a t p and the government, the net coalition government. so while it's kind of shipment, i have to say, i mean, i don't think it's us grand or huge us. it's being made out to be because the partnership is just at the beginning stage and it might not go forward. i mean, we just have to wait and see, but the children side is seeing that they have more ground or a bigger coalition to fight on their whole pulled, that they will end up in the oil and they and that's where we are at the moment. but this conflict says move on, and more people are starting to be affected by this coalition or the conflict moving forward. i will follow what's your, what's your take, what's your assessment of this of this and ions?
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do you see both sides expanding their fights to all the areas in ethiopia? i think this is an enormously significant development for 2 reasons. one, these are the 2 forces that have a very common strategic goal, thomas, for the future direction of the country. both normally british and army that is widely supported now by the population, which is the largest, if any questions and tina cuba and to go to different forces agree on federated future for the to the fact that you have that strategic political alliance is significant. and on the, on the, on, on the back of the report is going to last, we now have a military alliance between the 2 forces to take on the trip in the to be in government. and also it's important from kind of a graphical point of view because the forces from the northern part have already
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shown that a strain to that what the force of the to be and military and the region. so just to ups, probably the category. so they have proven to be a force to reckon with now they are into, into a partnership with the automotive ration army that is, that is operating in the western and eastern part of the company. i think for mr. from a kind of granted point to you also get the 2 forces strategic advantage. and i think when you look at the political landscape and also these military collisions while we are looking at, it's probably my view of the beginning of the end of the abbey. i'm willing to come back to you. how do you think that the government will be viewing these developments? and i think that's very, very clear. and partly because both these organizations, as in the last 2 grades, ruling party and the my liberation army,
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the government calls it shiny. and both of these organizations have been classified as terrorist organizations. so i think, you know, that designation signifies just how badly this transition has gone. the idea of this transition was to create a more inclusive political space, any idea and then come to some form of arrangements about the country's future. instead, these actors who have an understanding of ethiopia that it should be organized as a multinational federation. they have been increasing excluded and it be the t p l . s. and the 2 grand forces now find themselves in a civil war with the federal government. and as a result says, you know, that full out, we've had the paris designations now, but. 3 the to grand force is one the offensive to try and force the transitional government, which is some think they are lay and also been trying to achieve. what we're saying
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here is an intensification and an expansion of ethiopia, civil war. it is very hard to say, i think as samuel correctly described, you know, just how meaningful this alliance is going to be. and as, but as i well says, you know, this could be the end of government, but what we know for sure is it, this is going to lead to that intensification of the fighting, increasing devastation, not just for the people actively involved in the combat, but also civilians and the threats that the already is severe closed is stability that we've seen could get even worse as this conflict wide. and so you'll get it to how embattled is the e p o p, an army at this point. i mean, it's been a challenge. i have to admit, but i would have to disagree with are low in terms. so this
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a more you that signed by p. p, an oil les being the beginning of the end of the prime minister. if that's an indication start, it says the end of his euro. i think that's wrong on the wrong assumption. but you know, in terms of the ciocca army, they did face challenges, but you know, the children army is one of the strongest within the africa. and i mean, it's will, you know, the prime minister has called for, you know, young people to join. you know, it's a challenge to great remains to be a big, challenging aspect. the new prime minister was just the next it, i mean you, we can disagree on how the process of the nation and so on. but i'm just saying in terms so him being and that's that. but i think they feel, been governments as the determination is there they have the numbers, but you know,
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they can really make a comeback. and but you know, i have to recognize in terms ofa. lets get into different regions including the regions regents as the, as an indication that the army is not really performing plan according to the children government. i want to pick out on that samuel, about the talking about the army have not performing as it should. you did refer to as one of the strongest on these on the, in the region. a new amnesty report came out, i believe, just in the past few days, detailing widespread rape and sexual violence carried out by the ethiopian defense force. and the era trained defense force, and i quote, soldiers and militia subjected to grand women and girls to rape gang, rape, sexual slavery, sexual mutilation, and other forms of torture, often using ethnic slurs and death threats. i mean that is, that is damning. how has the government responded to those allegations?
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the government, the ciocca government is assisting that there is going to be an open investigation done along with the united nations. i hope that's will become a reality. i'm not sure if there's going to be resources because allegations are box that positions are not just with a few open army. it's with us. well, at the t p, you know, i've read the reports from the international that came out the few days ago. international has its own shortcomings, but i respect some, i've read the reports, but the i mean the investigation has to be, you know, between all sides. and, you know, i've been to the, to great region. i've said this before. negations are, you know, no, just within a certain group, it's with old sites and i hope i'm not going to nice not, we'll have a big investigation. so we know exactly what happened. and we can have a roadmap. busy where we can go humans or you feel right, i will,
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i to bring you in any reaction that you have to samuel's take on this report from amnesty international. i'm interested and also where do you believe the beginning of this conflict really lay where the integrate was in or me. can you explain that to us? yeah, sure. so the conflict is basically ideological in nature is differences of opinion on the future of that action. the country have to take, you have on the 100 prime minister, one to synchronize power and wants to return what he's a glorious past of the to get a state of the vision of the future that most people, me integrated, all going to possibly the country do not agree with. on the other hand, you have a vision that is upheld and endorsed by the majority, your police can force is integral in other parts of the country which,
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which basically calls for a federated, ethiopia, way or regional not want to be respected. and people that have distinct would have the right to use the language, promote their culture, govern themselves. the reason, i mean that it is this class of visions that have lived to the company. and this was essentially started when the prime minister essentially tended to police and intelligence and court system to marginalize the operator to the by the position and go after the migration army in the west and pot where. busy when the prime minister went to walk into, right, he has to get into a full scale american petition with the support of the eric because he could not do anything. what he beat me. yeah. the guy with fairly independent, it was very what i was in a position to defend itself. little this class of visions. i think this what
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started in some way i made the point that the to the military was one of the strongest tributaries in the whole harvey can i agree with him and it was the kid that until recently it was one of the most i think it's a $34.00 with significant reputation externally and what the pi mr. deed. picking the country to the swab without, you know, meaningful concentration of what the consequence of this, why would it be? is to undermine not only the reputation of the military, but almost all the states and the situations. the military that it presents about 110000000 people with the support of the army was force it by defense force. that's because of the region of 6000000 people and i think that send us a very negative signal to fade some falls of the food benefit in the region. so. so although the military is fairly strong recently, i think it is no longer in
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a position. now to even defend itself from, from bible forces and from organized for since i was in the country in terms of the obligations of human rights in the report. and i think the report actually only be used to scratch the surface abuses that we have heard about the body is witness testimony. have been in the media. it was shocking. and you know why maybe to the body forces that are complicit. but the fact that the military that is responsible and i'm sorry that was responsible, i have not properly wanted to account for these atrocious crimes. and i think that face quite a lot about the views of the aisle qualities in the military. so william davison, i don't come back to you, we're talking about the era tray and defense forces for international audience. we
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should explain our trained forces fighting on the side of the e. c. o, b, and government. despite many calls for them to withdraw. what is eritrea is interest here? the tri, military has actually significantly withdrawn from the conflicts integrate around the same time as the tip is, federal government withdrew that was launched due to the surgeons of the 2 grand forces. and now era trailways and thought to be largely protecting areas of northern take, right, nor beneath that it claims as, as its own, but are disputed. i think i traced motivation was similar to the federal government and wanting to see the back of the t t l. s. as a political force, that's why they joined the federal intervention. but really the significant thing here is we see these paris designation by the government. we see the calls for every able bodied citizen to join the fight against the t. last and against the
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away, we see the call for militias and extra federal troops and regional. but this is in the context of this war, where we have seen these many reports of human rights abuses and essentially integral. and essentially the grand people have stood by their leaders and stood by 2 grades writes to or told me. it's a similar situation in our mid the government may designate the terrorists, but what the overlay represents has considerable support from the people. so was the federal government presents itself as legitimate, and therefore, these counter insurgency campaigns as legitimate and just the problem is that they are going up against huge numbers of people. that is why they are going to be, you know, that is why they have been so devastating sofa both in or me and into gray. and that is why this intensification is said to be so densely. these are not just small cliques of terrorist is actually relatively popular armed insurgencies. so you'll
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get a true on that point around the liberation army. lead a comes that he but says there's going to be a grand coalition against i'll be met and that other groups will join in. do you foresee that playing out? i don't think so. what i know for certain is this conflict is no going to end anytime soon. there might be different coalitions again, between you can up and they just em, or you, it was signed by 2 different functions or a different day and night. and we don't think there will be any, any kind of coalition to defeat ethiopia. there certainly lots of people that, you know, see job becoming like the former yugoslavia like somalia, like the house to done. some of the, you know, nations got their independence but didn't really achieve their objectives. but i think he took that we'll move on to this from this complex because he remains an
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important nation. a 110 minute people are almost that's and we're going to begin to see i hope, at the end of the time. because again, this conflict, endless conflicts within ethiopia within the continence as really is not in the interest of our confidence. there are many, many people that has property and i've been to some of the towns all, no mention william might have mentioned, including with the oral me on nation over go to me at states. and they are just really, really sorry. i was in that come a year ago trying to understand that misgiving they have with the governments with and it was, it was a real shock and i hope that we'll move forward from this concert. ok, i will follow if we look regionally won't roll or what role is or should the african union be playing to try and find a way out of this conflict. before i comment on that point,
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i just want to say just one, want to make my one point on what is say, some will kind of framed the conflict and to be asked one between e t o b and some some forces. i think it's a very problematic characterization. this is the view that is kind of promoted by the prime minister, who doesn't even have a popular mandate. he was elected the election where the prime minister essentially not alone, but it's not a conflict between it's your b and some 4th of the conflict between 2 forces in europe that are in the south in sacrament, on the future direction of the country. i think i think that that is very important, but in terms of they've got all the african unique would play and the rigid consequences or the complete it will be as the largest country in the region of the country that's responsible for regional peace and stability. while i've been
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playing a very significant sports, we stab lighting some of these countries. i think the consequences of front of the confrontation for grant tablet is different than fall into the job. yeah. would it be significant for countries in the region we already have border conflict between sudan and europe, yet there are some issues between the job and social done. we don't know to what extent relations between the 2 states and they would continue as they are company, especially given the fact that the grand spouse control the region to, to, to the north. so the, the, the consequences for the region is significant in terms of the role of the african union. i think that's good and has proven it's effective in terms of dealing with conflicts within member states. the qualitative after the african union declared
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that whenever they are full sample obligations with water cry, i'm trying to get it to mind. if the genocide is increasing, the union is mandated to intervene and to protect and protect the population in the european conflict. what the african union essentially is side with the government and try to play down are close to being committed. so it's not clear to what extent the you will get you in a car, a reliable, reliable carter for peace, national community needs to take a more active role. well, thanks very much for that. we will have to live there for time. big, thank you to all of our guests william davis and samuel get you and i will hello and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website or just or dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a de inside story. it also join the conversation on twitter. handle is
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