that in any negotiation, the dignity of this nation should not be hers is already made large weeping promises including fighting corruption, improving the country's economy and maintaining a wrong interest in negotiations. but it's not clear, yes, if you will be able to deliver on his promises. ah, i money side in the hall, he, you top stories on al jazeera tele button faces have sees a key northern city and i've got a cell in yet another blow to the government's efforts to blunt the on groups on floors and now controls muslim sharif the capital of bulk province. that means as fighters now control all of northern afghanistan and the taliban says it's now moving to july about of kind of storms, 5th, largest city under ship reports. as the telephone claims, another city afghan forces are seen getting out of their way. in this case,

out of the country to becca, stand, a fortress of a city, missouri is sharif as a major price, taking it consolidate the tolerance control of the north. talk to you and other provinces, closer to the capital, were added to the list on saturday, 322 provincial capitals falling to the group interest 8 days and the telephone, celebrating its lightening advance and places that controls fighters flaunted recently captured hardware. and during a helicopter hanger and western herat province and hoisted their flag in kandahar city, a top gate that leads to the governor's compound. u. s. president biden has warned the taliban of a swift and strong response if us personnel or put it risk in cobbled. the americans began evacuating the embassy. only mission critical staff will remain 5000 troops or flying into assist when kilometer away in the presidential palace sharp. connie addressed the nation, the taliban have always refused to go sheet with the government as long as connie

is at the helm. that honda can meet the castle. i know you are worried again, i assure you as your president, my focus is to prevent further instability, violence, and displacement with men as my responsibility. i will try to prevent this war from killing more innocent people from that. and the taliban is circling with every provincial capital. it takes the government's leverage lessons and are chappelle al jazeera with the u. s. is sending thousands of its troops to afghanistan to support the ongoing withdrawal and help evacuated american diplomatic pass. now, president joe biden says he will support political settlement in the country, but in 5th, any of souls by the taliban. on the u. s. military, we met with what he called a swift and strong response. when canada has more, a tells us that the bite and administration did not count on this happening the massive tele bomb advance. it was only 2 days ago that the initial band of reinforcements with announced some 3000 forces to go into secure couple airport and

help help with the evacuation. they are joining $1000.00 troops already there, but in addition, as well, we've now in the course of the day, another $1000.00 troops from the 2nd airborne division of being sent into couple that brings the total to 5000 more than 300 people have been killed and hazy after the country was struck by a magnitude 7.2 quake survive is being pulled out as the rubble at least 1800 people have been injured. many others are missing. the epicenter was about 260 kilometers west of the capital. a prime minister has declared a state of emergency says there's enormous damage. i will make an evaluation. we were told to is a lot of damage. people were dead and houses, hospitals and infrastructures collapsed. i will check to see what can be done to organize assistance. and i'm wondering if we are calling for a lot of solidarity but highly structured solidarity. we are setting up

a task force to coordinate the aid so that what happens after the 2010 earthquake is not repeated again. the ivory coast as reporting as fast case of the boat of iris in more than 25 years. the health ministry says a patient being treated in hospital in the commercial capital b john tested positive after arriving from guinea on thursday. the person travelled by road san b as position leader. how k in day he dilemma has taken a lead and his 6 attempts to become the countries presidents, incumbent leader, a guy lou is trailing also voting finished on friday with final results not expected until sunday. results from rural areas should take longer to arrive. lou is running for a 2nd term as you headlines, and he continues here on out there to the bottom line. i

i am steve clements and i have a question after almost 20 years. america is leaving afghanistan. but what is it leaving behind? let's get to the bottom line. ah, in the heat of the moment after the attacks of 911, the united states declared war and afghan, a stand in 2001. the media goal was to find out kite up, but the long term goals were lofty and i quote, to create a sovereign democratic afghanistan, that's at peace with itself. while 2 decades later, with countless lives lost and more than a trillion dollars spent, it really doesn't look like any of those things are likely. the taliban, whom the u. s. has been fighting the entire time, is poised to take over most of the country, city by city. the government that washington has propped up and the military that it trained could be gone with the wind in the short term. as for sovereignty,

different actors are pushing afghanistan this way in that, and that includes india, pakistan, china, iran, and of course the united states. so for a poor country that's been at war for more than 40 years, just how likely is there ever to be in afghanistan, that is at peace with itself and its neighbors and its america leaving it in better shape than it found it. fortunately, were joined by people who have all the answers. andrew base of a professor emeritus at boston university, retired colonel in the u. s. army and author of america's war for the greater middle east. he's also the co founder and president that the quincy institute for responsible stay crap. and joining me here in the studio is hash and what are you are a writer, an analyst on international affairs, and former spokesman for the united nations in afghanistan. let's start with a clip from pentagon spokesman john kirby. it's their country to defend. now, this is their struggle. the commander in chief has given us a new mission and that mission is to draw down by the end of this month. and that's or will move into what it looks like. beyond that,

i'm simply not going to speculate, but this is their country. these are their, these are their military forces. these are their provincial capital, their people to defend and, and it's really going to come down to the leadership that they're willing to exude here. this particular moment professor base of which let me start with you. i remember reading your work and writing and concerns about not only the iraq war and the fantasy and morbid as well. yes. yes. and we're for a very long period of time. now we seem to be the punctuation point where this is coming to a close. do you feel satisfied that america should be leaving with it's held up high or did we make very big mistakes in getting as involved as we did? that mistakes are, are ghastly. sadly, the people about janice, dan, are going to pay the price the the project that you described, the nation building project i think was misguided from the outset. and i

think that the president biden's decision to terminate the american war doesn't imply american involvement. but to terminate the american war and it can stand was long overdue. hi, and i know that you have a perspective that right now that america came in with the promises that it made to the afghan people that it tried to set things on a different course. how do you feel at this moment of american departure? are we, are we culpable with what is unfolding now in the country as we see city after city fall to the taliban? thank you very much. yes, the united states had clear definitions. an object as when it invented up kind of soon after 911. but unfortunately, it also follow number of mistakes that this can be made in outcomes. not only the united states, but international community. the united states out the taliban in afghanistan,

but did not address the safe havens. and the sang trees in pakistan who provided equipments and claim the top not only the top under 20 other terrorist groups who are backed by the pakistan interested las meant and out been kind of done and post threats to the governance, to the security, to the democracy. and the lives of all kind of sent, but also pull straight to the international community and be $33000000000.00 that he noticed is paid to the government of pakistan. and in return what the ball, whether not as they spoke the and as it took like unfortunately 2000 we had in americans were celtic enough to stand by the kind of network funded and supported by the pakistan is published. that is not something that we say, but that is something that the government of pakistan, the former and current leaders of pakistan, confirmed that they trained how paid that they supported the taliban. and that is what the nat as the, the facts that he did not belong to the admins,

but also to the united states. now, unfortunately, they not as a state signed a dealer with a parlor but, but that was not a police bill. right? that was a width, rollo deal with the, with the taliban. but this was a puzzle of a nation that was hardly a country because of the divisions with proxy conflicts that on top, what would have been the approach you would have advised after 911 to get this right? well, let me add one footnote towards hush him said in terms of enumerating our airs. a crucial one is it, before the job was done in afghanistan, however, we defined the job. the bush administration decided it was a great idea to invade iraq in 2003 and embark upon an even more ambitious nation building exercise in, in an equally divided country about which again, we understood very little. so we can't forget the enormity of the error of the iraq

war. what should we have done? i think what we should have done, i think, i think it was necessary, and i think most people agreed that it was necessary for us to do demonstrate that any entity government that provided a safe haven to terrorist attempt on attacking the united states. that government was going to pay a very, very heavy price, and there are $4.00. yes. post 911. it was necessary to punish the taliban. i think where, where, where we made a mistake was having imposed that punishment. then embarking upon the grandiose nation building exercise that we have been pursuing, i think it would have been far wiser in the, in the aftermath of over throwing the taliban to allow

afghans to negotiate some type of settlement. however, tentative, perhaps temporary, and then get out of the way. so we've got admiral kirby announcing that the future of afghan is dan, belongs to the afghans. true enough. but if it was true today, it was also true in 2001 in 2002. and we should have appreciated that way back then almost 20 years ago. right. well, part of that reality hoshevely you just laid out is that the future of afghanistan also rest of pakistan. also, rex with india also wraps with other powers in the country. how should we approach the dynamics of those conflict? what is your recommendation when it comes to thinking about the, you know, we've got iran, you've got, you've got pack, senior india, china, you know, and afghanistan stuck in a vice in the middle of them. what, what should be done? well, actually let's have a clear distinction. when is the issue of granite?

then, of course, that is the responsibility of the outcomes that they have to take care about it. but the other thing is the fighting against the global terrorism, right? the government is not fighting with the taliban with the color, and there are number of international terrorist groups. it's not only about the canister, but that is a way that will be post and that is posted into national community. it must larded and also to, to the read it easy. it was the issue of atkins, the evidence would have taken care of it or, and it should take care about the issues with enough. but it is about the global heart. it's about the global terrorism in i've got to now now that the united states signed with that, all dealer with the taliban. after that, the government and the i've gotten some is in transition from fighting terrorism to doesn't to be a central global jihadists against the west. i guess the europe and i guess the

world and that is something worrying and that should not be the responsibility. relied on the shoulders of the i've been people and i've been government and i've been sick. so you worry that this circle of history is going to repeat itself. it's actually that are the case. but what do we need to highlight here is that the united states, i think that is repeating mistakes and that mistake is, these are some patients with it all while without proper coordination with the african government to hand over the air and grounded responsibility. because the i've, the government thought that the united states has been saying since 2011, that it's with robbing, but it's with, it's not with w, but the returning horses back. i've got this done. this was a suspicious with it all. and i've played this, this is something that you lose the war now and has had we are now right, whether you not should have that. and also another very important point that i have to mention the international community pressed and force the government to release

5000 to ton of all the factors. and with those 5000 part of the release. and they are seeing a number 9 product provincial competence and had we are so in that way i tend to hush him. yes. go ahead. touch him. my question relates to the regional situation. i myself don't agree that the us withdrawal has been precipitous. withdraw is what you do when you fail. we have failed. but i'm interested in your thoughts on the regional context. that is to say, it seems to me, i'm not an expert here that the neighbors pakistan, iran, russia, china, do have a common interest in trying to ensure that as the united states withdraws, afghanistan doesn't to send into absolute absolute chaos. what are the prospects of the united states? encouraging working with incentivizing the neighbors of afghan

a stand to to collaborate right. however, modestly in ensuring some semblance of stability in afghanistan, after the u. s. military has gone. thank you and that's a great question. the region number one, it does not have a consensus about, i was honest, the number to the countries of the region. they are in dilemma. first, like iran, russia a little bit china, they were trying to get the united states out to kind of son gets the united states base is out of understand because processors, especially the iran dealer. feeling fact from the us basis in i've kind of said that they didn't want to have it apart from having us base is inner bill iraq. and i don't countries of the middle east now. iran, whether russia, china,

and pakistan, the fleet who like a freight from the parliament if they take over. because tall about having an excellent elective, a type relationship with the slimy, could group soft targets on he's standing up on and the, those groups targeted 8 chinese engineers in pakistan. and it's also being seen that they have. hi, how are you now identifying a common interest of the afghan sustan's neighbors that can provide a basis for them to collaborate in minimizing the negative consequences of the american failure. but let me, let me kind of take it one step further. you know, one of the parts of the mission that got morphed into the reaction after 911 was the, was the democracy project was raising the aspirations of people telling them that we were going to modernize the country. i remember richard holbrooke working to

look on how you change the kinds of products in agriculture that you had in the country to try to build a very different form of commerce in the nation. i heard david portray us had captains that were acting like maoris throughout the country. we saw a women, many of whom i know who were educated and promised and given a very different different element. and i guess my question to both of you, which is, which is another element of this question is, is, isn't disingenuous of the united states, you know, to go into places like this and talk about democracy, raise the aspiration of the people and say, you can have better because we seem to be walking away from that professor base of it. well, i mean, it's a version of imperialism. this was an imperial project. it, it, it began on the assumption that afghans need our help, that afghans are incapable of governing their own country. and so here come the

americans with democracy and market economics and technology and human rights that we presumed we could bestow on these on this backward people and forgive me for using that term. but i think that was implicit in the attitude of the americans and their coalition partners, as they embarked upon this project. and that project has, has, has failed. there is simply no question about it, and that's why it seems to me that the time has come to terminate the war. which to emphasize does not end american responsibility for, for our failure. there is a profound moral responsibility that continues to exist. and i think that the again, forgive me somewhat half hearted effort to allow afghans who worked with the

americans to, to leave afghanistan, is utterly inadequate. we need to do more on that front. and quite frankly, we to the extent that we're about to see or are seeing a massive refugee crisis, similar to the refugee crisis that existed during the years of, of soviet up occupation. right there to, there is a requirement for the united states to step up. and do what is right, how i'd like to ask you the same question about the ordinary afghans citizen that look at the united states as delivering something different modernity, civil rights, social justice. at all of that, they came by way of education and broadening themselves, which today is put a mark on their back in some of the cities. what are america's responsibilities and

europe's responsibilities right now to those people that we had promised a different life? what look, the government has like to strategic agreements with united states. one is a political strategic agreement with the united states and the this is the security agreement with the united states. of course, the advent will be looking to even thing because it has gone through several works for the past 40 years and the in the quiet and need like education, democracy, technology help and some of the things that requires because it has gone through a number of similar works and unfortunately it's coming again, but we need to prioritize the per, yerkes ok, both for the government all over the national community, also for the united states. now the per year is fighting terrorism. no. going to bring stability to the athens to make sure that the outcomes live in security and to make sure that there is no threat from kind of needed to the region nor to the north. and also not to the, the international community in, in enlarge. and that is there yet, that entire world is felt now,

it's not only the united states and the government because the united states intervening with the international partners. and i've kind of responsive, but it does not rely only on the united states. shoulders. of course, the 911 happening in the states that there are 30 a member states of the need to force it. what needs to happen, that is important. what should happen next? what percentage about an amount due to he will withdraw from i've got to stand and this is the responsibility on the absence, shoulders and also to the country. yes. countries of the region, but there's no consensus among them. we just the, all the credit from i've got to stand, they all do not want to have a child in a lot of them. not people do not want to spend, but that is coming in because there are internal adversary's. what are the reasons like india and china? so the and iran and a number of other countries. but now these countries feel that there will be a voice in kind of right. there is a big problem. not only brought up on center for the reason for number of years the,

the russians and chinese and even as they were the things that they showed up on that. but now they feel that know the message is not with the rock because it says it's not responsible with it all and irresponsible with that. because the feel reagan from a lot of stuff. you know, i can, i can see that point of view on the other hand, i'll bring professor base of it back into this. because another dimension of this that i think often doesn't get discussed is how other big geopolitical rivals of the united states looked at this. you know, and i'll say china for a moment where china, i've been to china talked to chinese leaders a lot. and they were very happy to have united states very dragged down and saw american power somewhat contained in china spending trillion dollars and not getting much for it in afghanistan was just fine by china. and so i'm just sort of interested in whether or not this inflection point where we're talking about different levels you're talking about terrorism, which i understand hush him. we're also talking about the african people and what they were promised and had hopes up. but there is another geostrategic dimension

about america's place in the world and what it can do now. and i guess the question i have is america is, is it more able now to impact global affairs in a positive way by not being so bogged down in afghanistan, so to speak, professor base of it? well, the international agenda is pretty crowded right now. i mean, the potential collapse of the government in kabul. a big deal is only one concern. climate change would be another big deal that poses a threat to, to all of us. it seems to me that we, if we are in an inflection point, it's an inflection point that points to a, an imperative of creative diplomacy. we don't even have diplomatic relations

with iran and yet iran and certainly inherits the catastrophe. one of the countries did inherit the catastrophe of us policy in afghan is dan. we need to be engaging with iran. pakistan, however difficult that may be the other countries in the region. they may, up to this point, have not understood that they have a common interest in collaborating to prevent anarchy from prevailing in afghanistan. they should see that now, and i think they should be encouraged. again, it's a diplomatic issue, not a military one. they should be encouraged to find ways to, to collaborate, and we'd be willing to participate in an effort, not in terms of military action, but in terms of other action to address the consequences of our failure. how should thank you that hash him in our last minute or so, i'd love to get essentially some strategic counsel from you as well. i don't know

what's going to unfold in afghanistan, what's going to unfold and couple, and if you were to be honest right now, things don't look good. but as you sort of look ahead and given what you just talked about, which was a, the threat of a glow, a new global empowered turbocharged, you know, terror network emanating from, from this country. what is your advice, you know, given where things are were out of afghanistan is going to happen. well, what is your advice now? well, number one, well, in international relations, like when one country intervene in another country, a lot of positive things and also with, with a good heart, some adversaries and pulls around the feel like they have some other agile does. so what needs to happen? you know, kind of stuff is that there should be a common common function to drawn together with other actors of the using the actor and international to get that look, that is a great, there will be a lot of time and that it will not be only for outcomes,

it will also not only be with the united states, this will be for the region and part of their words. so let's come together and address the challenges. that's number one. number 2, pakistan, pakistan is playing. actors understand and the international communities to address these challenges in pakistan to make sure that it is not expanded 1200 and part of the world. number 3. yes, the now does this intervene enough kind of not only for the safety of the kind of sun, but the safety and security of the world? do you think that now there is no threats from up into doors? it's absolute. it is there, the level of the threats now, you know, and it is much more higher than it was in 2001. and so the telling awful summer, a lot of that not bring any things. so the right legacy of the legacy and a gallery of terrorism, spelled data, and i, one of them will thank you for that. andrew bass of its president of the quincy institute for responsible stay crap. and how she me, what are you are afghanistan analysts, you're in washington, d. c. thanks to both of you for being with us today. so what's the bottom line?

20 years ago, america had no choice but to attack those who attacked that on 911. but war is complicated, and in afghanistan, the united states and its partners raised expectations really high for the people there. they spoke of a democratic future without solving any of the underlying tensions that the nation faces, especially the ethnic divide and also the proxy war between india and pakistan. so now afghan is just as divided as ever. half of the people prefer the taliban and hope they take over soon. the other half of course, don't want to live under taliban rule, but last time the taliban government didn't have much support and recognition for many countries. it was isolated. this time, beige ng and others, and maybe even washington may be okay with what's unfolding. and after all this, it doesn't look like america is really learned the main lesson, which is to stop over promising and under delivery. and that's the bottom line. ah,

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a capital artist we are trying to bake as well as smaller and smaller. we don't want to be realistic in the well, we would rather have a fantasy growing pay on al jazeera ah, i money side in doha, he had top stories on al jazeera taliban fighters have seized a key northern city. enough got installed yet another blow to the government's efforts to block the arm groups onslaught and not controls malisha reef the capital of bulk province. that means as far as now control all of northern i've gotten the storm and the taliban say it's now moving to was july about afghanistan's 5th largest city. the u. s. is sending thousands of its troops to the country to.