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oh, the old lange zine echoes round the bones monument sung in all the languages of the european union work by nigerian artist ymca. it's an ode to unity and a meditation for the city that might one day be the capital of an independent scotland journal. al jazeera edinburgh, ah, let's take you through some of the headlines now. tyler, bond faxes say they've captured that 1st district inside the province. that's home to have kind of stands capital hours earlier, the armed group took july about in the east leaving only cobble as the last big city on the government control. and the thought on also now controls all of us kind of stands major border crossings. the last of the seas to have total home, one of the largest gateways between afghanistan and pakistan. shala bella has moved
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from campbell. we've only just had this confirmed in the last hour that they have taken over to roby district to this in the thought east of cobble province. they are claiming to have taken control of 2 other districts with the cobble problem that is background me, which is actually much closer to cobble city and another district through the north coast, kara back, but we cannot independently confirm those 2, but we can confirm they've moved into survey the 1st time that they have controlled a district within cobbled since the us invasion in 2001. when i've talked to taliban context this morning and said, what does this mean for cobbled city? they say we are not going for cobbled city yet, but we are pushing since you putting the pressure on the government. here. people in haiti a scrambling to pull survivors from collapse buildings off to a powerful earthquake. more than 300 people are known to have dies,
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but that number has been climbing quickly. the at the center was about a 160 kilometers west of the capitol porter friends. at least 20 people have been killed in a fuel tanker explosion in northern lebanon. it happened near serious border the army and seized a warehouse where a petrol was stored illegally and was distributing the fuel to locals. busy a prominent coalition of pro democracy groups in hong kong is disbanding. civil human rights front helped organize record breaking rallies 2 years ago. says beijing's crack down on dissenters left the movement with little future. malaysia and media reporting the prime minister will resign on monday. my head in the scene is expected to submit his resignation to the king officer html to a 17 month in office. the headlines, the news continues. here are now to sierra, off the inside story. stay with us. how many nukes
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has too many new america had in many ways driven the arms race parties are much more like the british parties. now there are fewer regulations to own a tiger than there are to own a dog. how can this be happening? we take on us politics and society and that's the bottom line. it's all about is taking control of more of a common song, as it says, again on the capital cobble. the president says he won't allow 20 years against the last and the civil war. war can shop connie do to stop the taliban? the don't. this is inside doors. ah, ah, ah. hello, welcome to the program. i'm kim vanelle. the future of of gone on is topping most international. agend is this week with many faring a return to the taliban rule. of 20 years ago,
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the group is continuing to make strong advances across the country, taking control of major cities. it's also managed to relieve thousands of prisoners and lucid military barracks, some of which were run until last month by the united states. as hundreds of thousands of africa and leave their homes trying to find safety elsewhere. president connie is determined that the taliban will not win to an accident. i am not going to allow this imposed worn out nation to lead to more bloodshed and to losing the gains of our last 2 decades and damages to our public goods and infrastructure. because of this, i've carried out widespread comprehensive consultations with representatives of the people and leaders by hand without international partners in the consultation to be carried out in a speedy manner. and the united states who is sending 3000 troops to speed up the evacuation of its star from the embassy and cobble says it continues to support a political settlement going forward. we're going to do
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a couple of things. we're going to make sure that a terrorist threat can't emanate from afghanistan again by maintaining robust over the horizon counterterrorism capabilities. and the reason and we're going to continue to support our afghan partners bilaterally, through maintenance support and financial support. and we're going to continue to, to want to see a stable figure f dentist. and the other thing i would say is that we want to continue to see that there's a negotiated political settlement here for governance going forward or bring in, i guess, in just a moment. but 1st, this report from charlotte bellis, who is in the capital president ghani, has the address the nation and a pre recorded address from the presidential palace in this address. he said that he was looking out for his people that he wished security as well, that they needed to see improvement and coordination of the security forces. and he wanted any bloodshed to stop. the big question is,
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how does he stop the blood shoot? and then the speech, he said that they were consultations ongoing with local and international partners . we understand that some of those negotiations do involve his own future. whether or not he will be able to stay on as president for negotiations with the taliban to continue and some type of political settlement to be reached. the telephone certainly has an under a lot of pressure. they had a leader from width next going to son is male hum was very anti taliban. but when herat fell just a couple of days ago, he surrendered to the taliban and they sent him to cobb with a message to try to convince other government leaders to step away from gunny, enjoying some type of political settlement with them gone. he's also under a lot of pressure as a telephone. keep taking more and more provincial capitals and those provincial capitals get ever closer to cobble. they now control much of the south, much of the north and province's problems directly to the south of cobble,
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and they are pricing on a province just to the west of cobble. also, a panic is growing in cobble. there has been a run on the banks ticket prices. lots of carbon have skyrocketed, and a lot of people are becoming increasingly concerned. as the taliban come closer to cobble charlotte bellis the inside story. ah. okay, let's bring in our guest. joining us from cobble chicago, a member of the going to sounds national parliaments and chair woman of the parliamentary women caucus. and it's tumble. how don't know me, assistant professor of laura at the american university. all i've gone on and from london. so nick k form a u k, a bathroom 2 of us on a very welcome to you all. i'd like to start with you how to meet, what's your sense of what's happening in the country where all of this is heading is not headed toward a good place. the people i talked to underground the all express despair. all the
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young generation, the generation that was a product last 20 years of investment. i didn't feel like they have a place, enough honest on anymore. and everyone is looking for a way to leave those who can do leave. these are not people who are used to western values or these are not people want to live like american or european peoples i've lived should have caught up on war. and these are ordinary app on some of them. very conservative, very socially conservative, but they still, they even conclude that there is nothing to live for us to spend anymore. that's the state of how people feeling the political situation you just reported on it just the there hold for add some form of deal that will be reached to save. cobble, make sure that the car will not come under attack. and some sort of publishing agreement would be reached and taught. it would not take military turning themselves into a prior and making upon a son into an opera, the regime that we all remember from the 90. that's the only hope people have and
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not a lot of the hope about that either. but that's the only option we have moving forward . senate k, you do you agree with the assessment? what's your take on where this is headed? well, the telephone bring the war to cobble. thank you very much indeed. and yes, i agree very much. we heard was saying these are very difficult and incredibly concerning times how it goes out to, to all african friends and colleagues who are facing of the dangers the challenges that they are and must absolutely condemn as an international community. they the actions of the taliban up till now. the reports of the war crimes potentially that they are committing horrendous. so at this stage, the really important thing is to take a pause. the taliban are heading at the moment, full speed. it seems to try a military assault to con cobble and that would be a disaster would be a disaster cup would disaster from my draft canister. and it would be
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a disaster for the taliban as well. so i think they need to apply the brakes weight, discuss, negotiate, and find one. all parties have been looking for for some time. now really is a political settlement that isn't inclusive political dispensation. not just to tell it, but a broad afghan interim administration is what is being talked about now. think i cocktail. i thought to bring you in. do you think the taliban will do that? will it take a pause before it had to cobble? because it has made rapid gains, it clearly has the upper hand militarily, at least outside of the capital. well, it's been difficult to predict what will happen tomorrow in funding this up. because if i'm talking about what you did as fight 2 to 2 provinces, but i think unfortunately, what was the reason behind that army and the police and citizens didn't
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defend or like i just kind of under to turn it on. and if it's not like a victory through proper classic was done, i'm not sure what happened, but because i hopefully they should not make a military attack because the other place is up for a little more. got a mentor, nance, support, whatever it was they surrendered. are those? yes. so if you happen in calm, i think nobody wants control that insurgency or what is the topic? i think that's a cost to everyone not to talk to be ready by the experience and cannot progress was the people talk to i fact like some of me before i talked to them the medicaid just kind of thing if they happen to decide to talk strong to or i me and i think
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this is what's expedius, i hope it didn't happen. and so the problem because i should understand that it's not only time to find the price of the government, but most the 3rd group are also part of the country. so many people are involved in this conflict. * or the nice prime go to mock? yes. one no, no, just different than 1st. i think there's not some interest from the regional countries. like i said, i think probably i think nobody will my like, i don't think they will like a really manage or control the disaster inside a couple of hopefully understand on top greg through a little the victory this would be better to go for a proper solution to a talk process if they really want to receive just concrete to, to save that and so structure and to frankie, to see if the private and public properties and also to reduce the pins and the
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pressure or the distress which people are going to ok. i'll come back to you how to me, what do you make of what connie had to say today? some were expecting him to resign. obviously, that didn't happen. what was you will take away from what he had to say. he basically had nothing to say. you have to remember that the over the past 48 hours, a lot of territories has been lost. a 2 major cities of upon to some fell. and he did not say anything. he was a complete media black out from the arc and the presidential palace and people around 10. after 2 days he emerged and basically said nothing. the things he said really don't mean anything for the people on the ground. in my assessment, you my view, it's not about present money anymore. i don't think he is the person to negotiate on behalf of the anti colored one is widely unpopular enough on a son in my, in my hometown herat. most people blame him for the fall of her. people believe
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that he was the reason that the heartfelt at the government for the fight. they believe he instructed them. i'm not saying it's true or not, but i think that i call you underground. you cannot have a person like that credibly negotiate on behalf of one cap. so it is vital for us to be able to preserve some sort of a compromise, some sort of a mix of the views and the abuse of their opponents. it will be an credible person negotiating on behalf of the college. one camp president is that person and i think the time is not on the prism county or the government side, the taliban. the government leverage is shrinking. the, as you reported, there are heavy fighting and happening in missouri. if, if missouri falls it with the info cling of cobble, get to the point that as, as was said, it that cobbled becomes a battleground of different facts and fighting, not even taller. but there are many a bad after the after you start fighting cobble. if that become the case,
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the government loses all liberal telephone camp. this is all liberty to make any deal. ok. i think the present, the sooner to resign and the more orderly that transition happened to traditional authority, the better the comfort. so nick k, do you agree with that assessment? does our sharp connie have the just to see, have the support of the people to be able to negotiate on behalf of the government? ah, i agree that there is an absolute need for a holy inclusive half scan. republic, negotiation team that has been established to lead by a doctor, abilene high piece and conciliation commission. and there is no doubt that in afghanistan, no one group can ever successfully rule and speak for the whole nation. it is a nation that is so diverse, strengthen its beauty, is, is diversity and plurality. and that absolutely needs to be respected and
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represented in, in whatever team and whatever negotiation takes place. but let me, let me just also pause a little bit. i'm old enough to be in the cobble in 1996 when the title of that arrived. and i met them 34 days after their arrival in cobble. now that happen very quickly and the end as well. and i think it would be a mistake for the taliban to repeat the same experience. now. they are running now . they've got the wind behind them. the rushing headlong down the hill, feeling very excited and feeling very victorious. but they are about to crash into a wall if they carry on like this. what is that wall? the wall that crash into is a divided nation, and it is divided. it's the wall. so be an isolated nation. if they take couple by force. and it's a nation facing incredible humanitarian challenges already. there are 5 and
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a half 1000000 people food insecure before the offensive started. now that number is even higher and the number of i v, peas and refugees, etc. so they're hurtling into potentially becoming responsible for a country that is in dire straits. they need to pause. they need to put on the brakes, and this needs to be properly managed it for the benefit and interest of all africans . and i would say the regional countries as well, whether the bond, whether the telephone threatened to that kind of advice, i guess you could put it is another thing should cut ok. we're talking bear about the last time to ask on the was on the taliban role? what do you think a future i've gone on to taliban rule would look like. has the taliban learned any lessons of the past 20 years? would it look the same? what we actually were expecting on monday time. well man, that kinda sounds like a challenge. them. i'm gonna ask them that if
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a really change that you have to re open the school under the control under your, under your control. unfortunately, even go school will not open on some of the womans activity. we're going to be closed down. so this is the big concern for me. and many times we had this concern and you were trying to convince the government on the international community to support to have more women a dr. negotiation on women's rights issue should be the center of the discussion with a target by telephone also try to escape on the also, unfortunately, going from the womans right issues, not very much priority for demand partition of this country. so our concern is that why talking about we're not able to clearly announce deposition of your god or the party. you see the guarding woman's political future or social neck to 15. which woman has the right to do it?
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and they should like make sure the woman has equal rights, that would, that would be not strict on on them. and so this, this is why women up off guns and really have a council like, at least for how do you said that when people are start to play the country because you are concerned about their daughter kayesha on higher education than get worse. so that's why people think they do not change the same on even some of the things which happens to should be. some of the crime happened during the last 2 weeks. people have a huge cancer. even terrible tried to deny maybe some other group did it, but no, because that was started by their talking about everybody like live on that you get it or maybe you provide the ground for those who would that describe so just a huge concern for women to focus on hopefully taliban or realize this. so i'm, i'm give a positive response. we got i think they have to change if you really want to have a political future in this country. because people off gas offices,
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we're going to buy people who are expecting that the future government should be should be also true property election. how that i talk to directly to, to, to can so you guys can not to hear you. i can talk to you that ask you, i mean you're a member of up going to sounds national parliament chair woman of the parliamentary women caucus. are you worried that all about your own safety? right. definitely that too, because, you know, women have a more liberal and strong priority or woman is equal to, if you could do a woman wants to be considered as equals. each of this country goes like an advantage which we have, you know, what constitution you want to preserve that 11 to but it extra for my life with which we had so far go should have access to education higher education. so i work with the mondays are i didn't know so what women i think and trying to woman
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partition or political actress on woman bridge extra. but everybody's just concerned not about them but also even about their families. because not what we're hoping to be that that, that the policy and position of tyler bond or garden regarding this i think there's a lot on helen's. there's a lot of unknowns. i don't know. he, me un chief antonio. terry says seizing power through military force is losing proposition for the taliban and that will lead to the complete isolation of afghanistan. do you think that is true and do you think that that will factor into the tele bonds calculations here? i mean, the, i believe about one different thing, and so the think they one are contradictory. they want to reimpose their old version of their market a, which would result in severe restrictions a woman. right. which would mean loss of the most of the gains of the past 20 years,
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the life people come to expect, feel like they deserve and want. that's what they want. they also want international recognition because i think they have the expense of the last government, at least their elders do fighters underground. don't remember because many of them are young. that they realize was impossible to govern and be a functioning the state without international recognition. i think that they, one of the contradictory thing, how this contradiction is going to be result what trade off the they are willing, the, or will be able to make that that remains to be seen. but i would like to actually pick up what factors that a lot have been said about international timothy regression. but i think we don't pay enough attention to domestic legitimacy if pull up on or not recognize, but most people's, of a on a thought as a legitimate part of a legitimate government. they cannot be damaged in the government because they don't represent the entire country. if they cannot, it cannot be, it will be recognized the part of the government that is come to power,
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true negotiation to a mechanism that called everyone. and they choose to take power. by course they will face definitely a divided nation, a nation that does not, that does not freedom as limit. and that means they, they will make, i believe they come to brute force may be imposed the power, but they won't be able to get the education to start it. they will not be able to assimilate the economy and do many things that would help us on actually live a good life. and for them to actually grow. actually be a part of god governing of a on a thought, if not the entirety of it. because you can buy or maybe punish people, maintain order, but it cannot stimulate an economy. you cannot help education grow. you cannot really help the culture grow. and all the things that help you society will require a government that is seen as legitimate. but by moving on to the next stage of governance, we're talking about the nic. i'd like to bring you back in austria gone. a has in
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part at least blamed the americans for what we're seeing here. the u. s. troop withdrawal shooting us. except some blame here. i mean this event to ality must have been foreseen. yeah. before just that let me just touch on also the taliban as i've changed or or not changed because i, i see very little indication. they have changed very much. but what has changed is the world the world today is very, very different from the world even of the late 19th ninety's on one of the biggest differences is accountability, accountability for crimes against human vanity for war crimes, accountability also for international crime and such as drug trafficking etc. the, there are far more mechanisms in place and far more ways in which people will be held accountable in a way they weren't in the ninety's and the taliban really to need to factor that
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into their equation and they're thinking as well. but absolutely. i agree with room that it's a divided nation. they will, they will inherits if they carry on on this almost track and that has no digits of the city. the people of afghanistan need to see themselves reflected in that government should be a mirror. and the taliban is not that mirror. but anyway, the us. yes. i mean it is a mistake from my point of view. personal do is it was a mistake to withdraw comprehensively, militarily. a mistake for 2 reasons. first, because the training advice and assistance mission that was being take undertaken hadn't been completed. the armed forces was still a work in progress and they still needed that assistance. secondly, it was a mistake politically as well because it removed immediately the incentive for the taliban to negotiate in good faith and properly. my advocated for
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a long time that should be no comprehensive military withdrawal without a comprehensive peace agreement. unfortunately. ready that has not come to pass. i mean that was part of the, the doha talks to her agreement. that was, and it was part of the us withdrawal was that there would be interest have gone talks, which obviously have not come to fruition or not to a settlement anyway. we're heading towards the end of the program about to come back to you should come. okay. and just to sort of sum up all of this, how hopeful are you for the future of your country? how do you foresee all of this playing out? well let's, as before, some to conclusion, one work i want to share that destination is not divided, won't be divided because colorblind is not belong to one ethnic group, i think who are fighting in the north, east or west. but i think in the budget again, know how to come together,
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how to get united that for short money. thankfully try to how divide this country, but i think they will not succeed. i think in backdate and run it, it will be a united nation to, to work towards what the achieve so far. i think you will have lots of political security, triple lenses in the coming days and future. but i think i've got people also realized that international community was like, i was the date location of not supporting i live in a different stage which that, that, that the piece talk to started by and over the ended by them. i think i've done, we'll learn how to protect this country once more and hopefully can understand and realize how to govern at the future how to make this country back united on what to what. okay, do you get your patience and we have to realize that the department and meet
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up can is done and cut your hands from time to do approx who was in discount. alright, well have to leave it every time. thank you very much to all of i guess you can kind of how don't or he, me and nick k and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just there a dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is a inside story. for me, kim vanelle, the whole team here in the of i finance the when a military coup overthrew chilis marxist president, one stadiums became prisoners and the hunters sole objective was absolute control.
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