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and record breaking temperatures home more than 30 homes were destroyed on saturday . at least 90 people have been killed in the wild fires burning in algeria. fire sciences soldiers and volunteers all battling to put out the flames. the government has blamed as soon as for staffing. the $533.00 soldiers are among the dead. at least one person has been killed when a mind flooded in northwest china. 19 others, a trapped after a month live hit the mine in ching high province on saturday. rescue efforts are underway. ah, let's take you through some of the headlines here on now just 0. now. let's continue with our breaking news from afghanistan as it stands right now to bon fight is surround the capital. cobble negotiations are underway, secure
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a peaceful transfer of power of thought on dedication has been speaking with africa and government officials. situation on the ground is changing fast and has intensified during the past couple of hours. charlotte bellas has the latest from cobble ministry of interior, tells us that they have put troops around the outskirts of the city and that they are working with international forces to secure the city trying to reassure citizens. the taliban will not try to enter the city by force, at least today. now they are being held off by the fact that negotiations are ongoing. and i understand now with tried to speak with various government ministers . they say that we are inside the palace at the moment finalizing a transition plan. we understand that the former president calls i and pains to take would have a transition plan. they come up with 2 doors and presented to mila barret, who is a tele bonds, political chief, where he will either accept or not accept this. in
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a statement to talk to bon says he doesn't want to end the cobble by force told it finds this to wait on the outskirts of the city and not to enter the thought of on statement called for safe passage to be given to anyone wanting to leave. foreign embassies have continued evacuating staff with helicopter, seen going between buildings in the fort. us. diplomatic officials have now started working from cobble airport people in haiti, scrambling to pull survivors from collapse buildings off to a powerful earthquake. more than 300 people are known to have dyes, but that number has been climbing quickly. at least 28 people have been killed in a fuel explosion in northern lebanon. hungry residents have been gathering at the scene and cause they've set fire to a number of vehicles those, the headlines. the news continues here and now just 0 off the inside story. news
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news, news, news available. it is taking control of more of us on the phone, as it says again on the capital cobble. the president says he won't allow 20 years against the law in the civil war. one can shop connie, do stop the taliban, the don. this is inside doors. ah hello, welcome to the program. i'm kim vanelle. the future of uncle of son is topping most international agend is this week with many fairing a return to the taliban rule of 20 years ago. the group is continuing to make
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strong advances across the country, taking control of major cities. it's also managed to relieve thousands of prisoners and lucid military barracks, some of which were run until last month by the united states, as hundreds of thousands of africa and fleet their homes trying to find safety elsewhere. president ghani is determined that the taliban will not win to next. i am not going to allow this imposed war. now, nation to lead, to more bloodshed, and to losing the gains of our last 2 decades and damages to our public goods and infrastructure. because of this, of carried out widespread comprehensive consultations with representatives of the people and leaders by hand without international partner that is all in the consultation to be carried out in a speedy manner. and the united states who is sending 3000 troops to speed up the evacuation of its star from the embassy and cobble says it continues to support a political settlement going forward. we're going to do
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a couple of things. we're going to make sure that a terrorist threat can emanate from afghanistan again by maintaining robust over the horizon counterterrorism capabilities. and the reason and we're going to continue to support our afghan partners bilaterally, through maintenance support and financial support. and we're going to continue to, to want to see a stable, secure f dentist. and the other thing i would say is that we want to continue to see that there's a negotiated political settlement here for governance going forward. will bring in, i guess, in just a moment. but 1st, this report from charlotte bellis, who is in the capital president ghani, has the address the nation and a pre recorded address from the presidential palace in this address. he said that he was looking out for his people that he wished security as well, that they needed to see improvement and coordination of the security forces. and he wanted any bloodshed to stop. the big question is,
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how does he stop the blood shoot? and then the speech, he said that they were consultations ongoing with local and international partners . we understand that some of those negotiations do involve his own future. whether or not he will be able to stay on as president for negotiations with the taliban to continue and some type of political settlement to be reached. the telephone certainly has an under a lot of pressure. they had a leader from wisner going to son is male hum was very anti taliban. but when herat fell just a couple of days ago, he surrendered to the taliban and they have seen him to cobble with a message to try to convince other government leaders to step away from gandhi, enjoying some type of political settlement with them. gone is also under a lot of pressure as a telephone. keep taking more and more provincial capitals and those provincial capitals get ever closer to cobble. they now control much of the south, much of the north and province's problems directly to the south of cobble, and they are pricing on a province just to the west to cobble. also,
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a panic is growing. in kabul, there has been a run on the banks ticket prices. lots of carbon have skyrocketed, and a lot of people are becoming increasingly concerned as the taliban come closer to cobble charlotte bellis the inside story. ah. okay, let's bring in our guests. joining us from cobble chicago, a member of going to stones national parliaments and chair woman of the parliamentary women caucus. and it's tumble. how don't know me, assistant professor of laura at the american university. all i've gone on and from london, sir nick k, former u. k. ambassador to, i've gone a storm, a very more welcome to you, or i might have thought with you, or he, me, what's your sense of what's happening in the country where all of this is heading? it's not headed toward a good place. the people i talked to underground the all express despair,
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all the younger generation, the generation that was a product last 20 years of investment. i didn't feel like they have a place, you know, honest on anymore. and everyone is looking for a way to leave those who can do leave. these are not people who are used to western values or not. people want to live like american european peoples i've left to, to cut up on war. and these are ordinary on some of them, very conservative, very socially conservative, but they still, they even conclude that nothing to live for you to call on any more. that's the state of how people feeling. the political situation you just reported on it just the there hold for add some form of deal that will be reached to save. cobble. make sure that a couple come under attack and some sort of publishing agreement will be reached and taught. it would not take militarily turning themselves into a prior and making upon a son into an oppressive regime that we all remember from the 90. that's the only
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whole people have. and not a lot of hope. what about that either, but that's the only option we have moving forward. senate k, you do you agree with the assessment? what's your take on where this is headed? well, the telephone bring the war to cobble. thank you very much indeed. and yes, i agree very much, we heard it was saying, these are very difficult and incredibly concerning times how it goes out to, to all african friends and colleagues who are facing of the dangers, the challenges that they are and must absolutely condemn as an international community they the actions of the taliban up to now the reports of the war crimes potentially that they are committing horrendous. so at this stage, the really important thing is to take a pause. the taliban are heading at the moment, full speed. it seems to try a military, a soul to con, cobble and that would be a disaster would be a disaster cup would disaster from my draft canister. and it would be
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a disaster for the taliban as well. so i think they need to apply the brakes weight, discuss, negotiate, and find one. all parties have been looking for for some time. now really is a political settlement that isn't inclusive political dispensation. not just to tell it, but a broad afghan interim administration is what is being talked about now. i think i called kyle. i thought to bring you in. do you think the taliban will do that? will it take a pause before it had to cobble? because it has made rapid gains, it clearly has the upper hand militarily, at least outside of the capital. well, it's been difficult to predict what will happen tomorrow in fun this up. because if i tell you, but most of you didn't fight to, to, to fight those provinces. but i think unfortunately, but what was the reason behind the army under police and didn't
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defend or like i just kind of under to taliban and know, at least it's not like a victory through the proper classic was done. i'm not sure what happened, but because i hopefully they think that should not make a military attack because the other places up for a little more got low maintenance support, whatever it was they are those 2 ton of if you happen in college, i think nobody wants control insurgency or what is the top line? i think that the cost everyone for not to talk to me because a very bad experience and could not progress was the people talk to. i fact like some of me before i talked to them the medicaid kind of thing,
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if they happen to decide to talk strong to me and i think this is what's expedius. i hope it didn't happen. it's a problem because some of i should understand that it's not on the time to find the fight against the government, but mostly through school are also part of the country. so many people are involved in this conflict. * or the nice crime go to mafia as well? no, no, just different then 1st i think there's lots of interference from the regional countries. i guess i think probably i think nobody will my like i don't think they were like really manage control guess disaster insights. couple of hopefully by understand on top, great to a little the richer this will be better to, to go for proper solution to a talk process if you really want to receive just concrete to, to save that. and so structure and the thank you to see if the private and public properties and also to reduce the pins and the pressure or the,
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the district which people are ranked ok. i'll come back to you how to do he me, what do you make of what connie had to say today? some were expecting him to resign. obviously, that didn't happen. what was he will take away from what he had to say. he basically had nothing to say, you have to remember that the over the past 48 hours, a lot of territories has been lost. a 2 major cities of upon to some fell and he did not say anything. he was a complete media black out from the arc and the presidential palace and people around 10. after 2 days he emerged and basically said nothing. the things he said really don't mean anything for the people on the grounds. in my assessment, my view is not about present money anymore. i don't think he is the person to negotiate on behalf of the anti colored one is widely unpopular enough on a son in my, in my home town herat. most people blame him for the fall of her. people believe
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that he was the reason that the heartfelt at the government for the fight. they believe he instructed them. i'm not saying it's true or not, but i'm afraid that i call you underground. you cannot have a person like that credibly negotiate on behalf of one cap. so it is vital for us to be able to preserve some sort of a compromise, some sort of a mix of the views and the abuse of their opponents. it will be an credible person negotiating on behalf of the college. one camp president is not that person and i think the time is not on the prism county or the government side, the taliban. the government leverage is shrinking. the, as you reported, there are heavy fighting and happening in missouri. if, if missouri falls it with the info cling of cobble, get to the point that as, as was said, it that cobbled becomes a battleground of different facts and fighting, not even taller. but there are many a bad after the after you start fighting cobble. if that become the case,
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the government loses all liberal telephone camp. this is all liberty to make any deal. ok, i think the president, the sooner to resign and the more orderly that transition happened to traditional authority, the better the comfort. so nick k, do you agree with that assessment? does our sharp connie have the just to see, have the support of the people to be able to negotiate on behalf of the government? ah, i agree that there is an absolute need for a holy inclusive half republic negotiation team that has been established to lead by a doctor abilene high peace and conciliation commission. and there is no doubt that in afghanistan, no one group can ever successfully rule and speak for the whole nation. it is a nation that is so diverse strength, and it's easy. it is diversity and plurality. and that absolutely needs to be
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respected and represented in, in whatever team and whatever negotiation takes place. but let me, let me just also pause a little bit. i'm old enough to be in the cobble in 1996 when the title of that arrived. and i met them 34 days after their arrival in cobble. now that happen very quickly and the end as well. and i think it would be a mistake for the taliban to repeat the same experience. now. they are running now . they've got the wind behind them. the rushing headlong down the hill, feeling very excited and feeling very victorious. but they are about to crash into a wall if they carry on like this. what is that wall? the wall that crash into is a divided nation, and it is divided. it's the wall. so be isolated. nation if they take couple by force and it's a nation facing incredible humanitarian challenges already,
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there are 5 and a half 1000000 people food insecure before the offensive started. now that number is even higher and the number of i v, p, and refugees, etc. so there, hurtling into potentially becoming responsible for a country that is in dire, straight, need to pause. they need to put on the brakes and this needs to be properly managed it for the benefit and interest of all africans. and i would say the regional countries as well, whether the bond, whether the telephone threatened to that kind of advice, i guess you could put it is another thing should got cut. ok. we're talking bear about the last time the off on tom was on the telephone roll. what do you think a future i've gone on on the telephone will would look like. has the taliban learned any lessons of the past 20 years? would it look the same? was big actually we were expecting government trying women not for kind of like challenge them. i asked them that if
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a really change that you have to re open the school under the control under your, under your control. unfortunately, even go school will not open on some of the womans activity we're going to close down. so this is the big concern of women are many times we have this cancer and you were trying to convince the government on the international community to support to have more women at that table of negotiation and women's rights issue should be the center of the discussion but the target by telephone also try to escape on the also unfortunately going from the women's rights issues, not very much priority for the men petition of this country. so my concern is that why talking about we're not able to clearly announce deposition of god or the policy to guarding woman's political future or social. and i'm actually pretty which woman has that i to do it. and they should like make sure that woman has
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equal rights, that would be not a strict on on them. and so this, this is why women oppose grants and really have a counselor like for how do you said that when people are start to be the country because you're concerned about the future education behind education work. so that's why people think they do not change. you are the same on even some of the things which happens to show you. some of the crime happened during the last 2 weeks. people have a huge cancer, even tell them i tried to deny maybe some other group did it, but no, because there was started by talking about everybody like live on that you get it or maybe you provide the grandpa would that describe. so just a huge concern for women to focus on, hopefully kind of by or be, and i just sun, i'm give a positive response. we got i think they have to change if you really want to have a political future in this country. because people up off gas,
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which is we're going to buy people that was expecting that the future government should be, should be also true. property election house that i talk to have director to true because you guys cannot hear you. i can talk to you that to ask you, i mean you're a member of, i've got a national parliament chair woman of the parliamentary women caucus. are you worried at all about your own safety? right, definitely. that's because, you know, we have a more liberal on stand, but i don't, you know, a woman's equal, i wanted to critique and a woman wants to be considered as equal. see, just of this country goes that like advantage which we have, you know, what constitution you want to preserve that the one want to but it extra for my life which we had so far go should have access to education higher education. so i will look with the mondays are so what women i think and try to woman partition
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or political actress and woman bridge extra. but everybody's just concerned not about them but also about their families. because not what we're hoping to be that, that, that the policy and position of tyler bond or garden regarding this, as i said, there's a lot on helens. there's a lot of unknowns. how do not have me un chief antonio consider says seizing power through military force is a losing proposition for the taliban, and that will be to the complete isolation of afghanistan. do you think that is true and do you think that that will factor into the tele bonds calculations here? i mean, the, i believe about one different thing. and so the things they want are contradictory . they want to re post their old version of their market a, which would result in severe restrictions, a woman. right. which would mean loss of the most of the gains of the past 20 years
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. the life people have come to expect. feel like they deserve and want that's what they want. they also want international recognition because i think they have the expense of the last government, at least their elders do. even if i did something wrong, don't remember because many of them are young. that they realize it was impossible to govern and be a functioning state without international recognition. i think that they won the contradictory thing. how this contradiction is going to be result. what tradeoff they are willing or will be able to make that that remains to be seen. but i would like to actually pick up what factors a lot of, instead of what international legitimacy russia. but i think we don't pay enough attention to domestic legitimacy if pull up on or not recognize, but most people's, of a on a thought as little as a part of a legitimate government. they cannot be their legitimate government because they don't represent the entire country. if they cannot, it cannot be, it was,
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bobby recognized the part of a legitimate government that he's come to power, true negotiation to a mechanism and called everyone. and they choose to take power by course they will faith, definitely a divided nation, a nation that does not, does not see them as list of it. and that means they, there will be, i believe they come to brute force may be imposed the power, but they won't be able to get the education started. they will not be able to stimulate the economy and do many things that would help us on actually live a good life. and for them to actually grow. actually be a part of god governing of a on a thought, if not the entirety of it. because you can force may be punished, people maintain order, but it cannot stimulate an economy. you cannot help education grow. you cannot really help the culture grow. and all the things that help you society will require a government that is seen as limits. but by moving on to the next stage of governance, we're talking about the nic. i'd like to bring you back and also gone
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a has in part at least blamed the americans for what we're seeing here. the u. s. troop withdrawal should be us except some blame here. i mean this event to ality must have been foreseen. yeah. before, just hot that let me just touch on also the taliban as i've changed or or not changed. because i see very little indication they have changed very much, but what has changed is the world the world today is very, very different from the world. even of the late 19 nineties on one of the biggest differences is accountability, accountability for crimes against humanity for war crimes, accountability also for international crime and such as drug trafficking, etc. the there are far more mechanisms in place and far more ways in which people will be held accountable in a way they weren't in the ninety's and the taliban really do need to factor that
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into their equation and their thinking as well. but absolutely, i agree with room that it's a divided nation. they will, they will inherit if they carry on on this almost track. and that has no digits of the city. the people of afghanistan need to see themselves reflected in that government should be a mirror. and the taliban is not that mirror. but anyway, the us. yes. i mean it is a mistake from my point of view. personal do is it was a mistake to withdraw comprehensively, militarily. a mistake for 2 reasons. first, because the training advise and assistance mission that was being take undertaken hadn't been completed. the armed forces was still a work in progress and they still needed that assistance. secondly, it was a mistake politically as well because it removed immediately the incentive for the taliban to negotiate in good faith and properly. my advocated for
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a long time there should be no comprehensive military withdrawal without a comprehensive peace agreement. unfortunately. ready that has not come to pass. i mean, that was part of the, the doha talk that her agreement though was, and it was part of the us withdrawal was that there would be interest, have gone talks, which obviously have not come to fruition or not to a settlement anyway. we're heading towards the end of the program. i thought to come back to you should come okay. and just to sort of sum up all of this. how hopeful are you for the future of your country? how do you foresee all of this playing out? well let's, as before, some to conclusion one work i was the chair that destination is not divided on the won't be divided because colorblind does not belong to one ethnic group, i think who are fighting in the north, east or west. but i think in the budget again, know how to come together,
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how to get united that for short money, frankly, try to how divide this country, but i think they will not succeed. i think it backdated and run it. it will be a united nation to, to work towards to preserve what the achieve so far. i think you will have lots of political as security, triple lenses in the coming days and future. but i think i've got people who are also realized that international community was like, i was the date location of not supporting i live in a different stage which that, that, that the piece talk we started by and over the ended by them. i think i've done, we'll learn how to protect this country once more and hopefully can understand and realize how to go over at the future. how to make this country back united on what to what. okay, do you get your patience and we have to realize that the department and enemies of
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upcoming son cut the hands from time to do approx who was in discount. alright, well have to leave it every time. thank you very much to all of, i guess she kind of carol, how don't or he, me and nick kay. and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website. i'll just there a dot com for further discussion. go to our facebook page, that's facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. handle is a great inside story for me. kim vanelle, the whole team here in finance. the oh, you can a 3rd risk of extinction in vicious plan to read the nation. if the president sides of one of the best guys on our euro we know
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ah. discussing a transfer of power, the taliban of the afghan government officials are in talks. waiting at the gates of the capital, a taliban spokesman sales down to 0. it's fighters and not attacking cobble and offers an amnesty to those who served in the government. all the military. ah, hello welcome. i'm peter w. watching out the rely from the old.

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