hers and others in the region and beyond to give refuge to be temporary or permanent to afghans attempting to flee. and together we must do everything we can to help afghan stands to help afghans who wish to leave and see refuge. i will close where i began, the afghan people deserved to live in safety, security, and dignity. we in the international community, stand ready to assist them. thank you very much. i can't speak of the special meeting of the united nations, the us ambassador, linda thomas greenfield. minority groups must be respected, she said, talking about girls and women people suffering. anyway, she was making the point from cobit 19 corona virus under the bad route and certain areas of afghanistan. and now, because a lot of the borders have been sealed, aid is not getting to the people who need it. the people in crisis james face is

diplomatic editor. time to step up his now she said, james, what does that mean? i don't know what it means. it's really not clear what the u. s. will do beyond what they're doing currently cobble airport because they have no tools anymore. the u. s. is virtually out of afghanistan. the only operation they have is that ongoing operation at the airport. clearly there was a strong message, i think, to the taliban about that ongoing opperation saying that any, any interference with them, any attack on them will be met with a swift and strong military response. but beyond that, most the speech, when my colleague said to me was very, very safe. she didn't, there was no, there were no strong particularly strong words, emotional words. she didn't describe the scenes that have have of concern at all. so greatly in the last 48 hours, particularly the chaos a cobble, apple, whether

u. s. military are supposed to be in control. none, none of that. it was a very, very safe speech by the, but the, by the us ambassador. no passion, somewhat, all group argue perhaps no compassion given. given the scenes we've been saying aims many thanks, james bayes, diplomatic editor, wrapping up the events there at the united nations in new york that meeting cold. so that all the relevant delegates and ambassadors can talk about what's going on in afghanistan today. and yesterday, today we've seen those scenes of absolute cale dangerous chaos at the airport, as people were so keen to get out of the country literally hanging on to the side of us military aircraft. and tony tara saying, we must respect human rights. now is the time to stand as one more news on this channel in the coming hours for the moment. the latest news, as it breaks,

rescue teams here in the north and doing the best job they can. we've seen one water to the team as well as far further with detail covering the government. since the tele bond is relying on human shields and losing people shot them home from around the world, the price actually toto james have officially felt $15000000000.00 that already the most expensive. some games ever stage. the me, it's a narrow bridge of land in central america that connects north and south. but despite a sized b, 2 kilometer artificial waterway known as the panama canal makes the public of panama across. i point for international trade connecting the atlantic and pacific ocean. the canal is considered one of the 7 wonders of the modern world. but the

country is not only a passage for thousands of ships transporting goods from east to west panama. it's also a key transit point for thousands of migrants and asylum seekers going from south to north when neighboring columbia open its quarters in may. after lifting some of the coal with $900.00 restriction, thousands of men, women, and even children from the region and beyond. arrived at the columbia, panama border. they rescued old croft in panama for william jungle in a desperate journey, searching for protection and better opportunities in the us and canada. and as the scale of international migration is on the rise, how we kind of my coping with current crisis at its border, find them i minister, erica. we never talk to xerox ah, boring minister, thank you for talking to europe. there's thousands of people that are migrating

from south america. countries like katie q, we're heading to columbia, then panama, going to central america. and the objective is north america. why do you think this amount of people are moving right now? how many people are actually heading and coming towards panama, the migration phenomena, it is the phenomena off times of the 21st century. in panama, particularly, we've seen the ups and downs of this type of migration. specifically, we've tried to raise awareness of that for significant time. now. in 2015, we had a peak, including 2016. and now it seems that it's building up to, to what it could be very soon, a humanitarian crisis. again, the migration that we're dealing with is a different type of migration. there is so ready, significant attention on the northern triangle migration. so the ones that are

migrating from dora nicaragua, what am i going towards the north? and then there has been in the past, a focus on the venezuelan migration and the accident that happened given the political situation there. however, the needing to work convening and they awareness they were trying to race within the international community is for this very specific migration that is mostly from the caribbean. and then some from africa struck continental to us that arrived by air to the south in certain countries. and then there make their way up to, to united states, mostly about less than one percent of all of those migrants request asylum refugee. we've already try to re socialize them to get them interested in staying. we have a very distinct humanitarian approach to towards that type of migration. we not

only have prepared migration stations from the, from the years preceding that already we had to deal with us. so we are equipped to manage our control flow of migration and the phenomena of migration. we have understand, we're not going to be able to stop it. they are significant and difficult root causes in each of the countries. but to the extent that we can understand what's happening and agree among ourselves, the originating countries, the ones that receive and the ones that the passageway such as panama, such as co 3 ca, columbia, as well as the destination countries could make a significant impact. not only and how many were receiving, but the type of support and a were able to provide them. you have been very active in trying to talk to other countries involved in this migration. what you'd like to happen,

i can manage terry inquiry or that's something i've heard you say, i mean, how would you implement something like there? the 1st thing is it has to be a humanitarian approach. these are people that need our support. they know, nobody chooses to be a migrant a day. those are external causes. it is very difficult. they are hard breaking stories that you hear about the families. the children don't go through this process. and a lot of people that are taking advantage of their situation. a going through their routes that they go, it can happen without somebody orchestrating where they go and profiting from from, from this route. so what we want, we want 1st with our humanitarian approach to make sure that everybody is following the same standards that we have in terms of care for the migrants. we do the health checkup, still tell checkup should be happening every single country where they're going

through the supporting term. so food in terms of princeton's principal, specifically for mothers or for children, they need special food and nourishment. and when they come here, they are severely dehydrated model, norrish. and it is a situation that to the extent that is not only panama, but the rest of the countries contributing and supporting this migraines, that we are, that we would be better equipped to serve the 2nd one in, nor to support migration. it has to be control, he can get out of control and this is not just to this continent you see at another continent. it is the same situation where if it goes uncontrolled and unchecked, it becomes a problem. are there any differences on how countries in the region on how to cope with what's happening? i mean, other differences with co kareka where i think i was with columbia. i mean,

how do you find a common ground on how to cope with the ongoing situation? there is a different response from each of the countries, and i would start by saying panama is the only country that not only doesn't charge them, because when they go to each of these countries, they can charge the microns, get charged for entering the country. so normally we not charge them, but we provide of the support and i'm, it's a very small country. if we are able to do it, that means that every other country should be doing their part and should be able to manage. we should not be seen scenes where there is massive confusion and where they don't have a place to stay or they're not properly treated or even get the minimum health checkups as, as they're required. now, there are different approaches depending on your situation regarding the migration . there are countries that are receiving them because they're going by air. they

don't arrive in panama, they are not arriving in mexico, for instance. they're arriving in the south and in this thing, countries that does allow for them to arrive there is the 2nd one, which is the countries that are sort of the passage for, for this type of migration. and they deal with different situation than the ones receiving and then they are the destiny countries. the number one that we all know is the united states. and we think that they, they should also look towards the type of migration considering that the number one nationality crossing their south border is related to this type of migration. pressure from countries like the us or canada to try to prevent the migraines from, from because in the end where they're going in to the united states and canada. i mean, have you been pressured or you know, if there is no attempt to try to control the flow? no, we have not been pressured. and i think right now the main focus of attention has

been the northern triangle migration. i think that there is been, which we think is positive at the end. every type of migration should be dealt with, ideally, from the root causes so that you are helping what, what is creating the, the concern, or they need to migrate rather than just control or try to block it. they do benefit as mexico and even as all the other countries because if you think about it, i don't know on dora or nick her our all the countries where they have their own migrants going towards the us. they're also receiving this type of migration. so this is an added consideration or problem and top of the one that they're already facing. so i think it benefits from multiple fronts to try to confront the situation and to come up with a more holistic approach in terms of solution. one that is sustainable, not something sort of why not of blog or not blog or deal,

but rather something that is sustainable. again, i mentioned, i think that the migration it's, it's a phenomenal off times that we need to deal with in a sort of a more frontal approach. backing on to, on to the region. the pandemic has generated lots of tension across the world, but we're seeing a lot of that tension in memory. got, we're seeing protests in columbia, we're seeing protests in cuba, in country that are ruled by the right. and in countries that are ruled by the left . why do you think, what do you think is going on? well, at the end and i think it goes back to the same causes for migration. regardless where you sit there, right the left, a center there is a humanitarian problem. one driven by poverty by the economic situation and that, that we can deal with regardless of where you said in the political spectrum. and

we should look for more areas of cooperation and not be limiting our support or not, depending on on the, the particular approach of the government. haiti, for instance, one of the number one nationality is that we see here in the migration, god vaccines, the 1st dose of vaccines maybe 10 days ago. that's, that's unthinkable and untenable if you consider the situation where they're going . so we all need to do our part and support and solving already towards the conditions that are happening and trying to at the very least have a very humane and humanitarian approach to dealing with this situation such that we don't end up with, with the problems or the sort of the peaks and crisis that we're seeing now, when you see the amount of people taking to the streets, protesting, do you think governments in the region are under pressure, that people are demanding. change in a way what, what,

what do you think you're an expert on, on politics in general? i mean, i'm, i'm interested in your analysis on, on how do you see the region as a whole. what with what's going on? i think that region it's, it's fairly complicated at the moment. it's fairly convoluted as it is, and we are not also acting as a blog. we stopped doing that almost a decade ago, which is unfortunate. and if i go back to a sample, for instance, under vaccine, you saw the european union negotiating a blog. now the african league may do some of that. you don't see that lighting american region coming together and we should, we should unite ourselves, understand that there are the challenges that are present in front of us. we can continue acting alone, but we need to come together again and understand regardless of the political situation that they are a bigger challenge climate action. it's something again that you cannot deal with

alone yet. central america, for instance, is one of the top regions affected by climate. so why we're not doing something together, why we're not acting or collaborating more in solutions that do not continue with this cycle of poverty, where a country writ recovers from a hurricane and the money that should be directed towards helping poverty ends up just recovery process for the for the disaster that they hurricane causes when one of the good life issues in the region is for example, what's happening in the gallery and that i want. and in venezuela found on my part of the lima group. and they've been pushing for elections. and specifically, what do you think has been the result? i mean, what, what's your opinion on what's happening now? not only been put on what the approach has been the tried to solve the crisis. yeah,

yeah. i think that that they approach we've had so far on the venezuelan crisis has not been successful. and the sooner that we come to terms with that reality and we say we can do more of the same because it's not having any consequences. he has not had any meaningful impact the sooner that we'll start making or going around alternative approaches that could drive change. and i think the same sort of frustration we share when he goes to nicaragua because it's being turn national community being tested once again. and how we react towards that and what we do a suck community, we can fail again. we, we've already had that situation in the past. we need to again, come together and try to with that meaningful approaches that, that have a concrete impact such a we don't end up in the same situation. what would be the alternative?

because it's, you know, so we, we see the really, my group, the sanctions, etc. and even the fight in ministration. they're considering like different approaches. i mean, you see a 3rd option that is not the one that's been del. until now. i think that sometimes we are quick to, to look for very aggressive statements and find up to all the statements and publicize in the that the true impact of those statements. we've seen it so far, whether you have a statement from one contra to countries or 20 countries. it's not going to going to drive change. we, we, we advocate for, for trying to generate dialogue to try to push the needle

a little bit further to make sure that there's as much of inclusiveness in terms of the political parties, observation and the electoral process, etc. so trying to he may not be from one day to the other, but maybe that's never going to happen. and we need to push at least for some change so little by little we accomplish and we look towards a new future that we need for these countries. what, what's your opinion on, on b, o, e, from the organization of american states. i mean, do you see it as a organization that can force agreement between countries? would you like to see others organizations being created? i mean, because definitely there is need for more cooperation, i mean, in the region to, to, to transform what, what's going on right now. what? yeah, there is more need. and again, i think i go back to the same principles sort of drawing depends. i meg the,

the amount of death that where in our region and cases does not conform where the population we were one of the hardest hit regions in the world. yet we're not doing anything different with the vaccine situation and the same with the climate action . again hardy's head, yet we're not able to come to terms. so there is clearly a need for that or cooperation and trying to maybe take it to remove the political dialogue a little bit and focus and the main and core issues that should be at the top priority for every single foreign policy within our region. it's key and, and hopefully we can start then with the challenges that we have in front of us. if we haven't realized that by now, then the future is not right for our, for a region. and then we have had a major impact on the economy in the region. what would you like to see happen in

the future? do you think that there is a before and after that this is a time to change. you know, how latin american economies, how panama economy is going to move forward. i certainly think that this is a key time i key moment to do things different because we've just, it's evidence that what we've been doing isn't and off. and it has just shown how much of the differences in terms of inequality exists within our region. so if we are continuing to do the same, we're certainly in the wrong path. now, what do we do? different i'll take, for example, the issue of women empowerment and equality you hear and all this features women in power. we believe that in the quality yet, this is the moment where dad speech could be transformed into action. because this is the 1st time in recent history. where most of the public policy or the economy

of each countries driven by the state. every single country depends on the state, mostly, and not only the private sector drive into force because we're all recovering from this pandemic. we've all gone into massive dad, etc. so it is the time where you can say ok if i belief in women, i can put them at the top of the agenda and say for instance, tax credits, specifically for women, work in incentives, etc. so everything that we've sort of dealt with and say, this is what i would like to happen. this is the time because whatever each government decides to put at the top of the agenda, it could drive meaningful change. important countries like china and the united states have increased their presence in latin america, increasing investment 11 america. what do you think of that? our approach towards china has been edge. china is an

economy, super power, super house that we can neglect, given the panama canal the we have. so we, while we have relatively young a diplomatic relation, given the panama canal, or economy that is dependent on commerce, will look to strengthen that, that, that type of cooperation and, and, and increase they to make sure that, that we are developing with commerce and in everything where they are interesting as well. however, our strongest economic and strategic ally has always been to us, and that will continue to be the case. so our role when we see the kalash is cautious between power houses to step back. we remain neutral. it

is not our place to be in the midst of what one might say or the other. we stand back, we are extremely neutral. we have successfully maintained that position through all the time. studies now more important than ever for a panama to remain into have 2 separate relation which each of these economics would like to know. finance such as small country. i mean in the middle, in a way, in the tension that exists between the united states and china. you know, how, how do you handle that pension? i mean, do you find moments where, you know, how do you keep the balance we, i think that we've been fairly successful and remove in ourselves from the subject matters that room, that costs attention to and not stay in the middle. i think in the past or certain countries try to look for one or the other. we don't think that's our place. it's not. it's not what we've done in the past and what we've been successful for panama,

and we can, we think that will continue that same route of having our separate relation and remove ourselves from every area that that causes tension among themselves. and one last question i known to be in a way of tax have perceived such around the world. and it seems now that the world is changing, the trying to increase corporate tax around the world. a minimum corporate tax, how do you adapt? yeah, we, we, we are not a tax haven, we are perceived as one. but when you look into the specifics, there is no bank secrecy in panama. there's no area where you you can hide your assets and the, and the information will not be shared with whatever country you come from. in fact, most countries share the information with 10 would 12 with 30 countries with ah,

we're just breaking in to that program to bring you the russian ambassador to the united nations where he is now addressing the security can so on that special meeting convene to discuss i've got a son. let's listen and you know, start on the horse. we ship bullets, only 3 wars and the lowest. you call us in a series of mrs. tim with video. still grantly fifty's on the fell without much resistance since the last discussion in canso just 10 days of passed. however, the situation in the country of that time has changed beyond recognition today. all of our eyes around cobble which yesterday was quickly abandoned by the country's leader, audrey african and also a part of the diplomatic cool. it is clear that such remains sharp turn about to everyone by surprise. this involved those who very recently made public

pronouncements about the degree of military preparedness of the afghan lou enforcement structures who are prepared and trained of the past 20 years. so those are broadly we are continuing to close the monitor the situation in the country. currently, we believe that there is no point in panicking was the main point is that a widespread bloodbath among civilians has been avoided. us. we urge all parties to refrain from hostility and to foster a settlement peacefully 20th. we believe that the main plan or the international community must help afghanistan. they with pull that and they have to assist us kind of down at the national reconciliation while as are sitting there, the troika, russia, china, and pakistan expanded troika has been actively engaged in there. we believe that an

important role could be played by around as well. here as regard of future official steps. officials, debs regarding the taliban, we will interact with them irrespective of the evolving situation and their specific actions. according to reports to taliban have already thought to bring public order and also confirmed security guarantees the civilians. and for the foreign diplomatic mission staff, we trust that in the current circumstances, the security of diplomatic stuff and the human presence going to kind of stuff will be insured. and the institutions will enjoy immunity. in the circumstances, the russian embassy and couple is continuing to operate normally. mister president, properties, we are still confirmed by the ongoing, present, the terrorist threat. including a feel i feel rather bad terrorist activity is likely to spill across. i've got to

send orders and thus will threaten the security of neighboring countries in central asia. terrorism is inextricably linked to the drugs problem. that's the deteriorating situation and i've got to start over recent months has led to a sharp, worsening humanitarian situation of concern. the numerous reports about the number of id p and the flows of refugees across the country in order to create an additional burden for neighboring states, including surgical standards focused on iran and pakistan. not to mention the risk of vitus infiltrating the region in the area by pretending to be refugees. we are in regular contact with all 5 central asian countries, bilaterally and crew regional organizations such as the shanghai corporation organization, the c s p o declare station president. we still want to see

a peaceful settlement. and i've kind of and the subsequent stabilization of the country and its post conflict recovery, we convinced that an end to the years long, bloody war and having a national reconciliation would benefit all the people have done its regional neighbors and the world as a whole. thank you. well, we've been listening that to the russian ambassador to the united nations facility, and i've been via saying that all eyes our own kabul off to the african liter abandons the capital. and also noted the switch turnaround in the situation, despite the claims of the armed forces, the foreign armed forces, they're saying that they had trained the army and the capital would not fall. he also said there's no point in panicking and claim that a blood spots among civilians has been avoided. but also noted that the international.