have coven 19, they take care of pets, left alone when their owners are in hospital, or are put into isolation when the, when the, what about when i get off? it's like i'm, we're just the forms of assistance, according to the needs of the pet owners. either to evacuate and take care of it completely, or we take care of it temporarily like let is we helped to feed the animals clean the cage or base, but dogs. he says, the biggest challenge of the work is when they get notified that a pet owner has died. scott, i live al jazeera, bangkok. ah, it is al jazeera and these are the top stories in its 1st press conference since taking over afghanistan. the taliban says it will respect women's rights and to give those who fought against them. the claims of being met with skepticism from many who fear a return to the harsh role of 20 years ago. and the us says the down upon has

agreed to allow safe passage for civilian struggling to get flooring. out of cobbled evacuations have resumed today, after chaotic seems on the runway. ladies have also agreed to hold a virtual g 7 meeting to discuss a common strategy for afghanistan. rob mcbride has the latest from cobble. it was very significant. i mean, this really was almost like a key note, i think setting out the tone and the china for the, for the 4th coming at taliban government. and i think what we were getting with what the taliban wanted to, to get was the softer, more acceptable face. of taliban rule and actually started with in quite a triumphal. it's way quite uncompromising, talking about in grand terms about the emancipation of the country after 20 years expelling the forward as, as it was put, survive as of saturdays, earthquake in haiti. and now having to cope with a tropical storm, heavy rain lashed mindshift shelters in the southern city of luke, hey,

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hello. welcome to the program. i'm hasn't seen it is being called the worst the buckle in nato's history. the fall of afghanistan to the taliban, turning out to be the biggest crisis of jo biden's presidency so far, he's facing criticism from us politicians and afghan veterans, they say the ultimate beneficiary of the billions of dollars spent on afghan forces is the taller bond, the u. s president is adamant he made the right decision and blamed the afghan government and military for not being willing to fight for themselves. we have a lot to discuss with our guest, surely before us this report from she advocacy in washington. joe biden attempted to keep public opinion focused on a promise kept up to 20 years. the u. s. was finally leaving galveston. i stand squarely behind my decision. after 20 years. i've learned the hard way that there was never a good time to withdraw us forces. but neither the president or any

administration official has been able to address the chaotic matter of that withdrawal. despite biden's proclamation that the buck stopped with him, he lashed out both of the africa military and the african political leadership that fled even saying the u. s. a wanted to evacuate more people earlier, but was stopped by couple. i know there are concerns about why we did not begin evacuating, atkins civilians sooner. part of the answer is some of the afghans did not want to leave earlier. still hopeful for their country. and part of because the afghan government and his supporters discouraged us, i'm organizing a mass exodus to avoid triggering, as they said, a crisis of confidence at the pentagon officials insisted that they had role played every eventuality. there wouldn't be drawn whether that included such a swift taliban takeover or whether such a possibility had been communicated to the president. plans are not always

perfectly predictive and you as is well known military maximum, that plans don't often survive 1st contact and you have to adjust in real time. depending on says, it expects the $2500.00 us troops and cobble at the airport to be supplemented within 24 hours, up to a 1000 more and says, an apple operations have resumed. in addition, the u. s. has more than $700.00 africans who were eligible for special immigration . visa had left the country over 48 hours, bringing the total to almost 2000. the president's opponents have been swift to deliver a withering commentary. honestly, ministration looks to me like i couldn't organize a 2 car funeral and maybe it's not too late. i hope not for the present to put in enough troops and around cobble do at least get out all the americans. and as many of the afghans as possible who are our friends, who are interpreters, who were lot, but on home we were a lot all of age years. it is a sad day,

but the united states of america. however, when pressed mcconnell, as with many others in washington, suggested his favorite option was a permanent military presence in afghanistan, which would be against the wishes of a majority of americans by ministration appears to be hoping that eventually the chaos of the last few days will be forgotten, and instead the president will be seen as the commander in chief who finally brought america's longest war to an ends, jabber times the al jazeera washington. the german chancellor has criticize the way the u. s. to withdraw was handled. germany had the 2nd largest military presence in afghanistan after the united states. difficult enough, got a son to stop, not to take it off to dodge land development and get us down as bitter for germany and the other allied nations under the leadership of the u. s. a and nato fought after the terror attacks of september 11 for 20 years against terrorism and for freedom on the bidding and cobbling sent over extreme shooting. we have to realize

that an independent role of germany or other european forces during the nato mission in afghanistan was not possible. we have always said that we were fundamentally depending on the decisions of the american government stuff. well, afghans who worked for the us and nato forces are worried for the safety of their family members. a former interpreter who now lives in france, says only a miracle can save his relatives in afghanistan. i am in real trouble just because of my workplace, the u. k government, they're not punishing my family to not leave them behind. because that's going to cause a lot of life. if anything happened to my family, you know, how come i live that life after? you know, it's really hard. it's really hard. i'm struggling. i'm still struggling, you know,

i'm kind of losing hope. i haven't seen my family. so if you go to 2014, can you imagine that this is just the only beginning that palo one is doing right now is just a new show. and so like i have paid, it should come on, that's only the show in the future, the world will know what will happen. and there won't be a media to show to the world. so if they take way to brother with them foot and i have all my other talk and if, why somehow they come and why falsely marry my sister who is one of them. so how come you imagine this things as elvis further? there's 2 way, either you go fight against them or either you finish your life.

ah, was talk more about this now with our panel in washington, d. c. jenna bennett. you who the president and ceo of the truman and national security project in bethesda, maryland, david de russia, professor of the national defense university, and a former nato operations director in the office of the us secretary of defense. and in denver, colorado, jack kingston, a former republican congressman from georgia. warm welcome to all of you. janet venue, who did let me start with you even if you broadly support the decision by president biden, to withdraw us forces, or us forces from afghanistan. i think there's that pretty universal dismay and criticism of the way that withdrawal was handled and what were the images that we saw over the last couple of days if you have them in good morning.

yes, you're right. i think they're myself included a number of us across the national security community, including a wide range of veterans, does support the president's decision to leave afghanistan after 20 years of loss and pain and combat and trillions of dollars spent. but this is not a withdrawal. it appears almost like an abandonment and the chaos that we're seeing now at the airport as americans of afghan women and human rights defenders and interpreters to supported our military forces scrambled to leave the country. all of that was avoidable. and there had been efforts under way for months to address this directly with the white house, and this could have been prevented. and now the key will really be to keep the airport safe and open and those flights running and tell everybody who needs to get out. can david the rush? does this feel like an abandonment to you?

oh yeah, yeah. i mean, look there's, there's no doubt it is there were going to be more people, regardless of how much capacity we have, regardless of how much effort is put into their afghanistan, is going to be a very, very dark and brutal place for a long time. and the demand to leave afghanistan is going to exceed the lift to get people out and it's going to exceed the ability of countries to accept and resettle these folks. some countries have given up trying, president macros said, look, nobody forced these people to work for us. they made a choice and they have to live with it. that's a pretty callous approach. but you know, the bad news is already starting, and sadly, i fear it's only going to get worse. jack kingston, what, what's your view on this? and i want to ask you as well, whether you supported the decision, the initial decision that was made to withdraw us troops from afghanistan,

a decision that was a deal that was struck by biden's, previous essay that the trump administration. you know, i would say i have been supportive of an orderly and stable withdraw with some us presence there. that has to be inevitable. you know, when we were leaving world war 2, people probably would have said you can have trips to germany 50 years later, yet we still do the same thing in south korea. so have an american troop presence in areas where there has been conflicts is not unusual. but what we're seeing now, not only that immediate humanitarian crisis people clinging to a c 17 and trying to get out of there. but what we won't see, just as the guest said, whose family was over there, that danny, that you're going to, you're not going to see the taliban in the next $60.00 to $90.00 days and next year, slaughter and people going door to door looking for people who were sent the sizes

with the americans and fought against them. that's going to be horrible. but the other thing, and i picked this up time and time again when i was in afghanistan and spoke to the leadership and soldiers that they wanted to know. are you here to stay? we have a fear that you are going to leave us high and dry, abandoned us just as what's happening right now. and then the next time there's a conflict, how will you win the hearts and minds of the local people after they see what we were doing right here, may very difficult not to mention the other western countries who are allies in the coalition. and perhaps the guess, remember, i think the number was 48 countries who were involved in the coalition in some capacity. and how do we get them to rally around the next cause it's going to be very, very difficult. do you do share the fear that some have expressed that afghanistan? now risks becoming a breeding ground for groups like like all kinder and i school and so on.

absolutely. you know, prior to 911, we were still given something like 75000000 for a to ask in country and one form or the other. so, you know, and we were engaged pre 911. they did not have any, i'd say focus or bitterness towards us until like al qaeda came in there and i think now they are going to have more of a focus. there is going to be revenge. we've left a tremendous amount of military equipment there and a lot of trained soldiers who will slip sides and so decided it's not gonna be a bit of terrorism. went to terror on china, russia, other foreign actors, bad actors are going to see this as a potential training camp, recruitment area breathing, graham, whatever you want to call it. so yes, they're going to totally reject american and western values on terrorism. david,

the rush, president biden did acknowledge that he was surprised by the speed of this collapse of the, of the afghan government and set did acknowledge that it was messy. why, why was, why was his administration course so flatfoot, do you think? well, i think everybody got it wrong. i didn't take that. they do, paul. so fast either, but you know, i, i think the problem is we, we had a phrase of the pedagogue drinking your own bath water. people were there's a self reinforcing cycle of expectations. there's a focus on the inputs rather than objectively measuring outputs. i think everybody was aware that corruption was a chronic condition. we are aware that a lot of the warlords, who we never really dealt with were you know, capable of treachery. which is, i think, really what was behind the rapid fall of the northern part of afghanistan to the taliban. it was really allegiances what was really remarkable to us. that was the

depth of the treachery. i mean there was really only one military battle, perhaps to kandahar in conduct. the rest of these cities were surrendered without a fights. it's important to note though that the pen series, you know, they're still there and they're used to operating from their remote valley and expanding outward as they did against the soviets and as they did against the taliban. so it's not a complete failure. but boy, a boy, this is, this is a big issue and the bite and team and, you know, got it really wrong and i think any other president probably would have gotten it wrong to jenna ben, you heard of what lessons do you think the u. s. can, can learn from this because there were those who will argue that this, this back was last many years ago in terms of the way to the united states approaches approach the whole thing with their presence in afghanistan. what do you say to that? i think that's right and i think gave us exactly spot on and there are this failure

has a 1000 fathers and has been 20 years in the making and it's clear that an ongoing sustain presence would do little to continue to shape the outcomes. i think we all desire here, which is a peaceful country for people in a reduced threat to the united states. but that's not what we have at hand right now. and as david notes, we really need to think about what this means for us power for our partners and allies. what i'm concerned with principally has them is what kind of message we're sending to our partners and allies when, if, after 20 years of war and fighting alongside folks in afghanistan were not there to extend our moral obligation to save them. president ford to death under vietnam, it was hugely unpopular at the time. 130000 v in the me is brought to us. we have 2000 afghans who supported us troops who have arrived in this country 2000. and so

if, as senator mcconnell suggest, he is concerned with the fate of our partners and allies, the next step will be for the us congress to increase refugee admissions levels. and to bring as many people here to safety as possible. that depends, that, you know, certainly affects the lives of afghans. but it also sounds really strong. an important signal to would be american partners all around the year. a world for years to come. it is important to our credibility to be able to say that will stand by those who stood with us. well, let them put some of that back then to david, the russia, someone who, who's worked within the nato leadership. how does what we've seen in cobble over the last couple of days affect us relations with, with the european partners and nato partners, and basically us credibility. yeah, i'm sorry,

i have to go back in and readdress my remarks from these characters. i didn't say that the whole mission was due to failure. what i said was, once the us decided withdraw, i don't think anybody predicted that the african government would fall so quickly. i think that it was a chronic condition that could have been managed at an acceptable rate for a long period of time. so it does affect us credibility. i mean, president bide here. acted really the way that the critics accused president trump of acting. he made a unilateral decision, he did not consult with nato allies. he said, i'm going to do this, and i'm sorry, i'm going to have to disagree it on the vietnam analogy as well. president ford did not unilaterally decide to withdraw us troops from afghanistan. us troops withdrew 2 years before this, the fall of saigon. what happened was, the u. s. was committed providing logistic, a congress passed a law that said that won't happen. i refer you to the louis sorely book, a better war for the details on that. so what you had here was

a different situation entirely. how to unilateral decision by the president, which i think history will show in the fullness of time, did not consult with. and he, cutty, in the career oxy and the pentagon, the state farm, it's because he was worried that he would get rolled as happened in 2000. and he made a unilateral decisions without consulting with allies that created a condition that just snowball beyond any recognition. but that being said, nobody expected to happen this quickly, and i don't really fault him for being surprised by the rapid fall of the comp government once that that was with. i know jenna wants to respond to that and then we'll move on to it. if i'm in a certainly the conditions in vietnam at the time were different than afghanistan, no other circumstance could possibly be the same as what were confronting. now my point david and to our viewers is that there is a strong historic precedent for large scale evacuation. a partner, an allies,

that's the precedent and it's not what we're seeing here. and further it's factually an accurate that state and duty we're not consulted throughout this process that we're consulted routinely. ultimately, it was the president's decision. and he's been very clear that the buck stops with him and he's owning it for good or for ill. but there was a wide range of consultation throughout the process. and i think history will show that, but you know, it's not a result of the nato secretary general was surprised. jack kingston, what was your view on? if we go back to way before vide, and trump and, you know, back to the, to the bush administration in 2001 after the tyler bond fell in 20 years ago. there were those who say to the, the campaign, there was where it was last a long time ago, going back as far as that because of the, the approach that the united states took to, to,

to all of this. what do you say to that? i think once we were there with the idea, we need to fight the war against terrorism on their territory, not in the united states, which is one of the themes that george bush said over and over again. we needed to convince people that that effort is succeeding. if you look at truth loss, for example, 2019 was the 3rd highest year since 2013, 2013. you got about 100 troops, 201554 then 201922. and the reason why i'm bringing that up is to say that you have reasonable stability. you did not have, you know, huge battles, use warfare and slaughter. now with the grind and i'm not saying that was good because of that, i'm saying that the american president of the american congress did not sell people on, you know, were we have sacrifices going on on

a regular basis over there. we are spending millions upon millions of dollars, but on the other hand, we are keeping it from becoming a hot bed of terrorism. and i think that the prediction is that's what's going to happen to it right now. so i think that we elected leadership fail by not talking about this each and every space as to why troops are on the ground. they're what we're doing, what we're trying to accomplish. and so i do think jenna's, right there's, there's a lot of people who can claim the failure on this, but at the same pan american people, you know, they want to go in and knock somebody off, come back home to live happily ever after the world. unfortunately doesn't operate that way you have to remain engaged. whether it's a pretty pitcher acquaint that you are not. david rush can, can the us remain a way you could respond to that general moment. i just want to put this to david can, can, can the us remain engaged in this while not being, physically present?

can they, can they make sure that the taliban as they govern afghanistan, do not allow the country to, to, to be overrun with these groups, like al qaeda and iso and so on. i don't think so. i mean, president biden said he was the 4th president, preside over war and f guest and want to be the last, but actually he's the 5th president clinton fired cruise missiles that ok to targets in afghanistan, trying to track down ok. that was characterized by president bush as you know, shooting cruise missiles at tense, which is not too far off. what actually happened. it is possible, but it is extremely more difficult. we won't have local intelligence networks. we don't have local basis or weaponry as degraded and the operations extremely expensive. so i, i agree with rapid sen, kingston. it is more likely that groups that want to do harm to united states find a safe haven in afghanistan. and it is likely that we are able to identify per,

you know, target and then meaningfully obliterate these groups. and i don't think the taliban is going to do it for us. go ahead. jenna. and our in space is places without the rule of law, the world over are constantly vulnerable to becoming hot beds for extremism. we know this, but what's also clear is that ongoing problems in afghan again, wasn't going to change the nature of the situation on the ground. yes, the withdrawl looks more like an abandonment, and it's been needlessly mfc and i believe should have been done different. we are where we are. but the notion that an ongoing commitment to continue to poor hundreds of billions of dollars into a country that we saw. so quickly fell and failed to make furious advances is misbegotten and its hubris, and it has distracted the united states and stretched our military,

the largest in the world by a factor. all of these next major military is combined are still smaller than the u . s. defense, and yet it has really strapped our forces and distracted the united states from addressing other issues like russia, like china, like issues all around the world like climate and pandemic response. it's time to divert resources into the manifold areas where u. s. interests are all right, but for right now, we must confront the military and crisis at hand where we're going, we're going to have to leave it that we could certainly spend a lot longer talking about this, but phenomena, jenna benya, who david rush and jack kingston. thanks so much for being with us. and thank you as always for watching when you can see this program again, anytime by visiting our website edge 0 dot com and for the discussion, you can go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter handle where is at

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