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as i'll just say correspondence, that's what we strive to do. news i answer the okay. you're watching the stream of today's episode. long time coming, reckoning with race in america. this is the latest book by michael eric dyson. hello, mike. really great, have gone to stream back to minnesota, right? rock on what i left off the list of things to introduce you by your titles that you hold. echo f friend of me as well. they just want so good safety to happy here on the street. we have audience. 20 minutes is michael eric dyson. if you don't have a question for you now, you will have in a few minutes, jumping to youtube, jumping to the live comment. i need to be part of the show with michael eric dyson,

who that where shall i start to? michael. i took a picture of the front cover inside the front cover of your book in an inside the back cover of your book. and it just struck me, i'm just going to let people have a look at this and read this. and then you see these names. i'm at till eric gonna sondra blind. i wrote this for you. how did you pick? how did you pick this extraordinary line up? well, 1st of all, what an honor and an extraordinary privilege and pleasure it is to be here with you . i chose those particular people because i wanted to make certain points and the points i wanted to make it here to at least more broadly speaking, the circumstances, an outline of their existence, especially in their, their deaths. so if i wanted to speak about the way in which there was white theft of black futures, i wrote about brianna taylor. i wrote

a letter to brianna taylor. and these are letters written to these people. not about them to further objectify them or exploit them. for books, sales or dollars, i want to speak directly to them in a kind of, you know, round table with the ancestors recently arrive for the most part. so brianna taylor allowed me to talk about whites at her life was stolen. metaphorically. that represents the condition to play in predicament of black people writ large. how our futures were stolen from africa brought here to north america. in this case, the 13 colonies then what became the united states of america, and then absorbed and reproduced for the purposes of dominant culture. then i wrote to, you know, eric garner because i wanted to talk about george floyd and the way in which the blue plague police brutality was devastating our communities. i wanted to write to sandra bland because i want to talk about white comfort, the degree to which many white brothers and sisters maintain and preserve their

comfort at the expense of black life. so these particular things drove the people i chose so that i could have a conversation with them out loud about issues that continue to vex us right now. michael, so many of the names that you mentioned are people that we know because of the videos and viral videos. there's a quote as a way you describe the videos in your book. consider these videos, visual autopsies of the slow death of justice when you were putting these stories together. when you revisited the stories, there's a lot of detail in them. did you see it? either we transcripts, watch videos over and over again. how do you even do that? yes, that's a great question. yes, to the all the above i read transcripts. i looked at the videos as painful as they are. and i'm glad you brought that up because i'm an older person, right? i'm 62 years old. so i'm technically heading toward, you know, senior citizenry. but that's all right,

she's and she's out there in the public. keep your think is that i'm a generation where we didn't have, you know, the possibility of talking about safe spaces or speaking about triggers or talking about the degree to which weaken self care. these are things we'd learn from younger generations, mostly to our you know, benefit and advantage. but having said that, i think sometimes we protect ourselves from the trauma. yes, we don't want to be re traumatize, re victimized over and over again. but i don't think we can afford not to know what these values souls endured, what they grappled with in their last minutes to see the snuff films in the pornography of black dep, the home mate cinema of black demise of black biology that is projected onto the world, the pathology of blackness and the pathology of shilling black people. i want to

feel that, why let it wash over me? let me understand what a mom are. bree was feeling as he was running away from a truck behind him. and 2 people in front of him, white vigilante is we who are trying to hunt him down like an animal. and so i wanted us to feel that. so i read those transcripts. i. i looked at those tapes. i felt the horror of the terror of the trauma, the grief that all of us as black people and hopefully american citizens and hopefully global citizens felt when we spied what was going on in those tapes. and then those transcripts. to me is a social worker. she has a question for you, michael, have a list and have a how do you write an entire book still, concisely, especially with the amount of emotion that comes with the topic in being a black man? ah, bless you my love, you know, it takes a right writing and rewriting. i think the best writer is a re writer. so you've got to put it on paper,

you got to let it be cathartic. you got to let it call. come out of you, the chaos, the cataclysm hurt the pain, the problem of the agony, and then you begin to shape it into a narrative that will serve your broader purposes. i want to serve the purpose of illuminating their lives of broadly illuminating the context of their demand. and so i want to get it out there emotionally, but then i want to rein it back in just a bit in order to for the narrative to serve this broader purpose. but i didn't want it to be shorn of emotion. i didn't want it to be lacking in the existential angst. that drove me to a certain degree. as i looked at these video recordings and there's a black man, i couldn't be objective. i don't have an archimedes point of object to the outside the flow of human history. i'm right there implicated in it. and so i wanted the writer, the reader to fill that power with me as a writer. michael, i'm a black woman who lives in america little mikes are really long time. this book spoke

to me. i know you wrote it to those particular people who were impacted by police brutality. he died because of police brutality or violence in america. bits that really spoke to me on this for instance, this is alija mcclain and the details about his death. just i didn't know that you told me i didn't realize what he said as he was talking to the police. i didn't realize that he was a beacon, i'd seen the videos of so charming what an amazing young man. what did you learn as she dug people into the story? the stories that you turned from headlines into pico, like you and i who live in america. right now. yes, thank you so much for that question. i discovered like you discovered, you know, i had heard about him. i knew that he was a young, black man, 23 years old, arguably on the spectrum, but a highly sensitive deeply and profoundly intelligent and caring and empathetic

person. and then like you, i learned that he was a vague and i learned that he said, you know, he wouldn't hurt a fly. i learned that while he was being arrested while he was being assaulted while he was being victimized and traumatized unnecessarily. all of what 5640 some odd pounds, a young man who was a threat to no one who begged to for his life literally, he tried to reason and rationalize his existence. with these cops, he tried to say, identify was, you know, that you have a tough job. i see what you're going through. i know what you're doing isn't, but all of yes. and none of this, what we usually call in black circles, respectability politics, letters convince white people by the depth of our character, by the pedigree of our personality, that we are not worthy of the mist treatment and misbehavior to which they will arbitrarily and often fatally subject us, none of that worked and this was the especial horror of looking at his story. so i

learned all of that. and looking at sandra bland, you know, trying to fight for her own life to fight for her to be able to speak up and speak back to an offending cop, an offense of cop who miss treated her, or rather nastily. and then 2 days later, here she is hanging in her jail sale. so i wanted people to discover what i discovered and looking at my armor. and looking at that entire for minute or deal and how he left the home that he was merely looking at black curiosity is criminalized in this country. and i wanted to put that front in center and talk about how there was a kind of reversion to the sleeve plantation where you didn't even own your own body. i wanted to project these real archetypes of black existence and identity. the ends of the struggles that these contemporary black martyrs endured to show how we have made progress on the one hand. but we are repeating the very thing from the

history on the other. we've had so many conversations on the screen this year really from, from march through towards the end of the year. about what happened the see what happened in 2020 you, according it reckoning with race in america. i found on page 66 of your book, such a beautiful way to sum up before, but ugly way to sum up. what will my, all some people, including yourself, and this is the reckoning. will you read from the bottom of page $66.00, the end of the power off? for me? be glad to do that. if we picture the impact of each of those lead losses on black america and the punch enterprise right? then each of these deaths was a body blow to black justice. each shooting was a stinging after our spirits. each killing was a right cross to our emotional stability, each choking with a left hook to our concerted efforts to put your hand. and then after all those

years, after all there's incalculable loss. the knockout punch was a bruising upper cut to our minds. deliberative. george floyd's coldly brutal debt . how long did it take you to come up with? this is what happened. this is why perhaps, and i, i say perhaps because i'm not sure but you seem very sure. the george i protested, went around the world that resonated that this is a reckoning. yeah. take came up. it took me. wow. because look, i'm torn on the one hand, in the immediate aftermath of the george floyd death. there was an enormous outpouring of empathy of fellow white brothers and sisters. citizens of all races, strikes colors, orientations, class status. i am the white religion, nationality in, not only in america, but across the globe, 50 in the country,

hurting 7 countries across the world. extraordinary. and i think because all of us were at home during the pandemic, for many of us who are those of us who have the privilege to be so. and we saw on our screen what could no longer be denied. what black people had said was true, that you don't have to do anything. you don't have to make any offense to the car and they will hurt you if you are black. and then remove the teachers and the asterisk from white people. oh he was running from the top. no, it wasn't all we had a dinner. no, we didn't. we had an a 90. we're going to have them. no, he didn't. all he was faxing. no one. no excuse. finally, in some senses, for some grudgingly but others, you know, belatedly, they finally got the message. oh, my god. and when they did, there was an enormous, up swelling, up surgeon and out poring over enormous identification with black book and so into

the streets. they port. and now, 6 months later, many of us think well, was that a real reckoning did white people come to grips with their original sin, so to speak. and i look at it this way for me. i've been over, there's many white people on that. they fell in love with black people. right. for the 1st time now a lot of them already were but many said, oh my god, here's a new love bright before my eyes. i love black people, black lives matter. i'm going to post on social media. i'm going to talk as a superstar in my particular arena, and give money and resource does. and now pay attention and help pete green light projects that need to be greenland right. falling in love. and you know, when you fall in love, it's roses, it's candle light. you know, like 3 at sexy. it's hot. there it is. you keep talking. yeah. you, you better than me. and then it was way to the toilet paper on the wrong way to close the door when you're in the bathroom lays do. and the toothpaste is being

spit out from the wrong end. and you left the toilet seat up. do you want me to swim in the very toilet. so, but at that level it's the everyday unsexy stuff where real love has to take root because real well can't be on the mountain top of the majestic, magical encounter in romance. it has to be in the valley, so to speak of the everyday normal existence where real love shows up. it picks up the kids on time. it cooks the dinner on time. it washes the coals on time. it shares the duty across gender on time. in other words, the performance of love is the real reckoning in the systemic structural way with the truth that have been revealed. and i think at this level, the romance between the white folk fell in love with us. and the black people who are the recipients of those ambitions are, you know, are, is now in a, in a kind of state where it sounds sexy. we got to talk every day and we can't be to

discourage the pendulum has swung from one ends of the other. but we have to maintain our commitment to saying, i'm not going to be discouraged because we don't have roles roses in candlelight. let's have dinner tonight. let's figure out a ritual of accountability. let's figure out the rhythm of our mutual engagement with true, our accomplices. and of the fact of racial reckoning. so it can only happen if we pay attention and make it happen. so i refuse to give up to so it's only been 6 months since then. we have to be determined to see this through the long haul. i'm just looking to see what's happening on youtube. some really interesting conversation just sparking off michael, danny moore says the biggest issue is non black people's economic about race relations. no, it's a big trouble. it's a big issue to be sure. which is why people like me write books and we all have conversations for me and you have your wonderful show. we try to help people out,

we try to engage them. and i don't scorn people who don't know. now i, you know, i'm skeptical of people who have a reason to know and refuse to learn. that's a different problem. but the ignorance is deep and profound in many ways. so we have to solve that. we have to encourage white brothers and sisters and the others outside of our communities. please learn, please talk. please engage with other people. please learn the circumstances and conditions of our emergence, our flourishing, our prohibition in certain circles that are accepting of white folk, but not us. look at the circles of privilege in which you participate and circulate . so the thing is, is that, yeah, we got to encourage people to know something. don't talk about some stuff you don't really know about. if you don't know about rugby, don't speak about strikers. if you don't know about, you know, football in america don't talk about quarterbacks and the like. in other words, get informed of the rules, the history through tradition and the conditions under which that's for occurs the same thing with rate. how i'm having said that. i encourage people always to have

an open mind and an open spirit to learn as much as you can talk to as many people don't just have one black for it. right, because i want black friend could be great and that one black frame could not be great. don't ever take anybody's one word because there's always a difference, a convergence of complicated, nuanced interpretations of the truth that we confront. and when you have a broader pallet of colors from which to draw the picture, you yield the portrait you present is far more engaging. michael, in this book, you start referring on counsel culture. i know it something up. you look, you've been talking about this for a while, so then when you make a turn into town hall coat is michael thing. and you get upset about it. i want to share with you a comment by jo. well, and then just come to the back of it and if you are critical of council culture, joel, has this question for you history?

well, my question then would be if you feel like there is an issue with the way that we go about chemicals, then what can be improved? what can be taken away? and if we remove the counterculture off the table, know what other to do, we, the general public have to hold white people countable. because we can't continue having this fear and worried that once we hope to mon, responsible is going to make the rest of them scatter rotated ohio. they've always been doing that part hasn't changed, but holding them accountable in the public, i would know more seems to be one way that we've been able to truly make a difference. yes, look, what is it? well stated the question, look, i'm not talking about not holding white brothers and sisters accountable, that is not my point. and furthermore,

i think it is extremely necessary for us to leverage whatever authority we possess, morally, politically, socially, economically in defense of ideas, ideals, and identities that have bender under. so what i mean by cancel culture is the vicious ripping of another person's reputation, or tearing into their souls as if they have done the ultimate harm. now, if for those who have god bless them, let it rip right so that the harvey weinstein, or the bill guys with, if you think best the case or they are kelly's. but for the most part, cancelled culture is not leveraged against those bodies. it's more of a parallel movement. even people with power deserve to have their day in court, so to speak. if you go online to me, it can become like a lynch mob. here you are 5, you 10 of you, 100000 view rather quickly without evidence, without countervailing prove, without the ability for the person being held to account to give account of him or

herself to talk about the conditions under which they exist. the plight and predicament of their particular career, or if you think they've done something wrong, you want to, if this rate them, for instance, the governor of virginia rouse nor in them who was in blackface, horrible races to be sure. but the question is, what do we do if we get rid of that person, if we just throw him to the side and throw him to the wolves, then he will be able to stay in office a defined restitution defined restitution of justice versus retributive justice. restorative justice, which is the ideal expression, i believe, of our communities at their best. and you can get a white guy in there are white women after him and they'll go like no, i've never had black face. but by the way, i don't care about your particular issues or culture, but a white person who is conscious of his or her fault and flaw coming to grips with

that in public. what did ralph northern do? he turned around and he did things like 10000 prisoner ex prisoners were restored in terms of their voting rights. you know, that disproportionately impacting african american people. he talked about healthcare. he dealt with educational systems. in other words, he went to work like a demon. and he worked on behalf of black people. if a person makes a mistake, should they be held to account? yes. but to dispose of them to me that's smuggling into black culture. white supremacist ethics. white supremacy wants to destroy what's to oh, it till you was a little white woman. let me kill you. let me at this rate you let me wipe you out . that kind of desire for vengeance is not justice. to me, justice is what love sounds like. when it speaks in public, and if we talk about justice, let's also spare the lives of the people with whom we disagree. those who are most

vigilant and arrogant, white supremacist hold them accountable. i don't even want to destroy their lives. i want to destroy the infrastructure that supports them, the white nationalist ideology that propelled them. but them as human beings know and cancel culture makes no distinction. so my friend, i think there's a way to it now is wrong and harm to hold people accountable, but also to do things in a fashion that will preserve the integrity of the human being, responded. let me very quickly him by saying that i picked up, you know, i was a young creature into 21 years old, back in tennessee. and it was my job to go to the hotel to a score the pastor to church that morning. and he told me a young man, it is easier for a young creature to damn the heat pile of humanity than to get in there and help those who have been hurt. he said, the older i get the preach about grace. he said, i suppose that's because i need more of it one day, the counselor may be the cancel leap and you want people to treat you with respect, look at the entire sweep of your career. are you being reduced to one state,

one flaw? and one problem to me, it just doesn't accord with the best traditions of love, forgiveness, engagement, and accountability. and by the way, justice, that our community and forgives. all right, i'm hearing the the minister right here. the baptist minister minister michael eric dyson. i have won't be the next. i just want you to bring your thoughts again a bring this home. i'm going to do it by a nick who is looking to head to 2021. question for you. thanks my clarification for continuing and expanding the conversation that we're having on how to recognize the race in our country. and of course by doing so in such a powerful manner by writing letters 7 letters to americans. each who is the victim of racial violence in the united states. so my question would be after 4 years of racial tensions being vote by the president united states. what recommendations

would you have for president job? i was strategy could use to lead us out of the final types rather, nick, great question. great analysis. a don't be donald trump, i think we've achieved that be, don't stop the, the fear, the division, the hatreds, the animosities, the hostilities, the threats, the dangers that exist among and between groups. number see, find a way to leverage the moral authority of american democracy and those who defended most ordinary citizens in their spots and spaces and spirits in this country who every day uphold the bloodstained banner of truth of commitment to those things that are helpful. not hateful, not nasty, not negative. and then di, make sure that you engage with your brothers and sisters across the spectrum and understand that we are only good if we're all good together and we contribute our

lives, no matter our race, color, sexuality, or creeds. this nation is as strong as it can possibly be. you've been listening to michael eric dyson, he's also a long time coming, reckoning with race in america. you rejoice conversation. you are definitely going to enjoy this book. my home was such a pleasure. thanks for joining us. thanks so much with me. the grim consequences of mexico's bloody drug. watch the people around you, mr. governor, you've got people who are with the narco, through the eyes of the journalists, determined to report the truth. your government is full of north and she said, that's how the article should start 60 years on we revisit the report is still risking their lives being another outbreak. violence of more versus with you on the rewind, the deadly beat on algebra. when i think of my nature,

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