several months to raise enough funds to take one child on many occasions helped him too late. for some children. i did reach out to you 0. so you told me. all right, let's get a round up laptop stories. now the taliban has promised to respect women's rights give amnesty to those who fought against it and make sure i've canister, does not become a safe ground for grooves. but afghans and world leaders are skeptical. the us says the taliban has agreed to allow safe passage for civilians struggling to leave campbell. the american military is fun. out. 2200 people so far. the u. k. says it will accept up to 20000 african refugees in the coming years from abroad has more from common and i think it still remains the fatty com but fairly uneasy on the streets. i'm sure everybody here in cobble and elsewhere,

and i've gotten this done, followed by the news conference, absolutely avidly. every word of it to to see what reassurances they were going to get from the incoming government, the taliban. so we remains to be seen whether all of that uncertainty is all of their fears, doubts will be addressed or not, as we heard that, i mean the be the word that really got to be followed up now by actions. i think that will be the real reassurance for 4 people here in afghanistan or the tele bonds co founder and political chief has returned to afghanistan, abeline, he bought the arrive to a crowd of supporters in kandahar the birthplace of the car bomb. on the lead, the groups negotiators in talks with the u. s. and afghan government. he was freed from a prison in pakistan at the request of the us 3 years ago in haiti. heavy rains brought on by a tropical storm of complicated search and rescue missions off the saturdays

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a scribe. you choose dot com, forward slash al jazeera english. so the right decision for our people, the right one for our brave service members to risk their lives, serving our nation as the right one for america, joe biden has defended his decision to withdraw from afghanistan. millions of afghans now faith, an uncertain future. will the us president pay a political price to pulling his food out? and how will it affect relations with europe? this is inside school. ah, ah, ah. hello, welcome to the program. i'm having a secret. it is being called the worst the buckle in nato's history. the fall of afghanistan to the taliban, turning out to be the biggest crisis of jo biden's presidency. so far he's facing

criticism from us politicians and afghan veterans, they say the ultimate beneficiary of the billions of dollars spent on afghan forces is the taller bond. the u. s. president is adamant he made the right decision and blamed the afghan government and military for not being willing to fight for themselves. we have a lot to discuss with our guest, surely before us this report from she advocacy in washington. joe biden attempted to keep public opinion focused on a promise kept up to 20 years. the u. s. was finally leaving f honest on i stand squarely behind my decision. after 20 years, i've learned the hard way that there was never a good time to withdraw us forces. but neither the president or any administration official has been able to address the chaotic matter of that withdrawal. despite biden's proclamation that the buck stopped with him,

he lashed out both of the africa military and the african political leadership that fled even saying the u. s. wanted to evacuate more people earlier, but was stopped by couple. i know there are concerns about why we did not begin evacuating atkins civilians sooner. part of the answer is some of the afghans did not want to leave earlier. still hopeful for their country. and part of because the afghan government and his supporters discouraged us some organizing the mass exodus to avoid triggering, as they said, a crisis of confidence at the pentagon officials insisted that they had role played every eventuality. they wouldn't be drawn whether that included such a swift taliban take over, or whether such a possibility had been communicated to the president. plans are not always perfectly predictive and you as is well known military maximum, that plans don't often survive 1st contact and you have to adjust in real time. the

pentagon says it expects the $2500.00 us troops and cobbled at the airport to be supplemented within 24 hours. but up to a 1000 more and says, an apple operations have resumed. in addition, the u. s. has more than $700.00 africans who were eligible for special immigration . visa had left the country over 48 hours, bringing the total to almost 2000. the president's opponents have been swift to deliver a withering commentary. honestly, ministration looks to me like i couldn't organize a 2 car funeral and maybe it's not too late. i hope god, for the present to put in enough troops and around cobble do at least get out all the americans. and as many of the afghans as possible, who are our friends, who are interpreters, who rely on home, we were a lot all of age years. it is a sad day, but the united states of america. however, when pressed mcconnell, as with many others in washington, suggested his favorite option was

a permanent military presence in afghanistan, which would be against the wishes of a majority of americans by the ministration appears to be hoping that eventually the chaos of the last few days will be forgotten, and instead the president will be seen as the commander in chief who finally brought america's longest war to an ends. jabber times the al jazeera washington. the german chancellor has criticized the way the u. s. to withdraw was handled. germany had the 2nd largest military presence in afghanistan after the united states in figuring enough on a sunday stop on a 2 week off baton deutschland, the development and i've given us down is bitter for germany and the other allied nations. under the leadership of the usa and nato fought after the terror attacks of september 11 for 20 years against terrorism and for freedom on the bidding and cobbler sent over extreme should really we have to realize that an independent role of germany or other european forces during the nato mission in afghanistan was not

possible. we have always said that we were fundamentally depending on the decisions of the american government stuff. well, afghans who worked for the us and nato forces are worried for the safety of their family members. a former interpreter who now lives in france, says only a miracle, can save his relatives in afghanistan. i am a realtor of just because of my work, please. you can government not punish my family. do not leave them behind. because that's going to cause a lot of life. if anything happened to my family, you know, how come i live that life after? you know, it's really hard. it's really hard. i'm struggling. i'm still struggling. you know, i'm kind of losing hope. i haven't seen my family so up here since 2014. can you imagine that this is just the only beginning

that probably one is doing right now. it's just a new show and sorry. like i have paid, it should come on. that's only the show in the future, the world will know what will happen and there won't be a media show to the world. so if they take my 2 brothers with them foot and i have all mother and if why somehow they come. and why falsely marry my sister who is one of them? so how come you imagine this things as this further? there's 2 way. either you go fight against them or either you finish your life. ah. was talk more about this now with our panel in washington d. c, a. jenna bennett,

you who the president and ceo of the truman and national security project in bethesda, maryland, david de russia, professor of the national defense university, and a former nato operations director in the office of the us secretary of defense. and in denver, colorado. jack kingston, a former republican congressman from georgia. warm welcome to all of you. janet venue, who did let me start with you even if you broadly support the decision by president biden, to withdraw us forces, or us forces from afghanistan. i think there's that pretty universal dismay and criticism of the way that withdrawal was handled and what were the images that we saw over the last couple of days if you have them and good morning. yes, you're right. i think they're myself included a number of us across the national security community, including

a wide range of veterans, did support the president's decision to leave afghanistan after 20 years of loss in pain and combat and trillions of dollars spent. but this is not a withdrawal. it appears almost like an abandonment and the chaos that we're seeing now at the airport as americans, as african women and human rights, defenders and interpreters to supported our military forces scrambled to leave the country. all of that was avoidable. and there had been efforts under way for months to address this directly with the white house, and this could have been prevented. and now the key will really be to keep the airport safe and open and those flights running and tell everybody who needs to get out. can david the rush? does this feel like an abandonment to you? oh yeah, yeah. i mean, look there's, there's no doubt it is there were going to be more people,

regardless of how much capacity we have, regardless of how much effort is put into their f. ganna stand is going to be a very, very dark and brutal place for a long time. and the demand to leave afghanistan is going to exceed the lift to get people out. and it's going to exceed the ability of countries to accept and resettle these folks. some countries have given up trying, president micron said look, nobody forced these people to work for us. they made a choice and they have to live with it. that's a pretty callous approach. but you know, the bad news is already starting, and sadly, i fear it's only going to get worse. jack kingston, what, what's your view on this? and i want to ask you as well, whether you supported the decision, the initial decision that was made to withdraw us troops from afghanistan, a decision that was a deal that was struck by biden's, previous essay, the trump administration. you know,

i would say i have been supportive of an orderly and i stable withdraw with some us presence there. that has to be inevitable. you know, when we were leaving world. ready war 2 people probably would have said you can have trips to germany 50 years later, yet we still do the same thing in south korea. so having the american troop presence in areas where there has been conflict is not unusual. but what we're seeing now, not only immediate humanitarian crisis, people clinging to a c 17 and trying to get out of there. but what we won't see, just as the guest said, whose family was over there, that danny, that you're going to, you're not going to see the taliban in the next $60.00 to $90.00 days and next year, slaughter and people going door to door looking for people who were sizes with the americans and fought against them. that's going to be horrible. but the other thing, and i pick this up time and time again when i was in afghanistan and spoke to the

leadership and soldiers that they wanted to know. are you here to stay? we have a fear that you are going to leave us high and dry, abandoned us just as what's happening right now. and then the next time there's a conflict, how will you win the hearts and minds of the local people after they see what we were doing right here, may very difficult not to mention the other western countries who were allies in the coalition. and perhaps the guess, remember, i think the number was 48 countries who were involved in the coalition in some capacity. and how do we get them to rally around the next cause it's going to be very, very difficult. do you do share the fear that some have expressed that afghanistan? now risks becoming a breeding ground for groups like like all kinder and i school and so on. absolutely. you know, prior to 911,

we were still given something like 75000000 and 4 and to ask in country and one form of the other. so, you know, and we were engaged pre 911. they did not have any. i'd say focus of bitterness towards us until like al qaeda came in there and i think now they are going to have more of a focus. there is going to be revenge. we've left a tremendous amount of military equipment there and a lot of train soldiers who will slip sides. and so decided it's not gonna be a bit of terrorism. terror on china, russia, other foreign actors, bad actors are going to see this as a potential training camp, recruitment area, reading, graham, whatever you want to call it. so yes, they totally reject american and western values on terrorism. david, the rush, president biden did acknowledge that he was surprised by the speed of this collapse of the, of the afghan government and set did acknowledge that it was messy. why,

why was, why was his administration course so flatfoot, do you think? well, i think everybody got it wrong. i didn't take that. they don't call so fast either, but, you know, i, i think the problem is, so we, we had a phrase, the pedagogue drinking your own bath water. people were there's a self reinforcing cycle expectations. there's a focus on inputs rather than objectively measuring outputs. i think everybody was aware that corruption was a chronic condition. we are aware that a lot of the warlords, who we never really dealt with were, you know, capable of treachery. which is, i think, really what was behind the rapid fall of the northern part of afghanistan to the taliban. it was really allegiances what was really remarkable to us. that was the depth of the treachery. i mean there was really only one military battle, perhaps to kandahar and conduct the rest of these cities were surrendered without

a fights. it's important to note though that the pen series, you know, they're still there and they're used to operating from their remote valley and expanding outward as they did against the soviets and as they did against the taliban. so it's not a complete failure. but boy, boy, this is, this is a big issue, and the biden team and, you know, got it really wrong, and i think any other president probably would have gotten it wrong to jana ben. you heard what lessons do you think the u. s. can, can learn from this because there were those who will argue that this, this battle was, was lost many years ago in terms of the way the united states approaches approach the whole thing with that presence in afghanistan. what do you say to that? i think that's right, i think gave us exactly spot on and there are this failure has a 1000 fathers and has been 20 years in making and it's clear that an

ongoing sustain presence would do little to continue to shape the outcome. they think we all desire here, which is a peaceful country for people and reduced threat to the united states. but that's not what we have at hand right now. and as david notes, we really need to think about what this means for us power for our partners and allies. what i'm concerned with principally, hudson, is what kind of message we're sending to our partners and allies when, if, after 20 years of war and fighting alongside folks in afghanistan were not there to extend our moral obligation to save them. president ford to death under vietnam . it was hugely unpopular at the time. 130000 vietnamese brought us the 2000 afghans who supported us troops who have arrived in this country 2000. and so if, as senator mcconnell suggest, he is concerned with the fate of our partners and allies,

the next step will be for the u. s. congress to increase refugee admissions level. and to bring as many people here to safety as possible. that depends, that, you know, certainly affects the lives of afghans. but it also sends a really strong and important signal to would be american partners all around the year. a world for us to come. it is important to our credibility to be able to say that will stand by those who stood with us. well, let them put some of that back then to david russia, someone who, who's worked within the nato leadership. how does what we've seen in cobble over the last couple of days affect us relations with, with the european partners and nato partners, and basically us credibility. yeah, i'm sorry, i have to go back in and readdress my remarks from these characters. i didn't say that the whole mission was due to failure. what i said was, once a u. s. decided withdraw,

i don't think anybody predicted that the african government falls so quickly. i think that it was a chronic condition that could have been managed at an acceptable rate for a long period of time. so it does affect us credibility. i mean, president bide here. acted really the way that the critics accused president trump of acting. he made a unilateral decision, he did not consult with nato allies. he said, i'm going to do this, and i'm sorry, i'm going to have to disagree it on the vietnam analogy as well. president ford did not unilaterally decide to withdraw us troops from afghanistan. us troops withdrew 2 years before this, the fall of saigon. what happened was, the u. s. was committed providing logistic, a congress passed a law that said that won't happen. i refer you to the louis sorely book, a better war for the details on that. so what you had here was a different situation entirely. how to unilateral decision by the president, which i think history will show in the fullness of time, did not consult with. and he, cutty,

in the career bureaucracy in the pentagon state farm. it's because he was worried that he would get rolled as happened in 2000, and i made a unilateral decision without consulting with allies that created a condition that just snowballed beyond any recognition. but that being said, nobody expected it to happen this quickly. and i don't really fault him for being surprised by the rapid fall of the comp government once that, that was with. i know jenna wants to respond to that and then we'll move on. go ahead. if, if i'm in a certainly the conditions in vietnam at the time were different than afghanistan, no other circumstance could possibly be the same. is what we're confronting now my point david and to our viewers is that there is a strong historic precedent for large scale evacuation, a partner, an allies. that's the precedent and it's not what we're seeing here. and further it's factually inaccurate. that state and u. d were not consulted throughout this process,

they were consulted routinely. ultimately, it was the president's decision. and he's been very clear that the buck stops with him and he's owning it for good or for ill. but there was a wide range of complication throughout the process. and i think history will show that, but it's not a result of the nato secretary general was surprised. jack kingston, what's your view on? if we go back to the way before bide, and then trump and back to the, to the bush administration in 2001 after the tyler bond fell in 20 years ago. there were those who say the, the campaign, there was where it was last a long time ago, going back as far as that because of the, the approach that the united states took to, to, to all of this. what do you say to that? i think once we were there with the idea,

we need to fight the war against terrorism on their territory, not in the united states, which is one of the themes that george bush that over and over again. we needed to convince people that that effort is succeeding. if you look at truth loss, for example, 2019 was the 3rd highest year since 2013, 2013. you got about 100 troops, 201554 then 201922. and the reason why i'm bringing that up is to say that you have reasonable stability. you did not have, you know, huge battles. he's warfare and slaughter. now with the grind and i'm not saying that was good because of that, i'm saying that the american president of the american congress did not sell people on, you know, where we get. we have sacrifices going on on a regular basis over there. we are spending millions upon millions of dollars, but on the other hand, we are keeping it from becoming a hot bed of terrorism. and i think that the prediction is that's what's going to

happen to it right now. so i think that we elected leadership sale by not talking about this each and every speech as to why troops are on the ground, they're what we're doing and what we're trying to accomplish. and so i do think jenna's, right there's, there's a lot of people who can claim the failure on this. but at the same hand, american people, you know, they want to go in, knock somebody off, come back home to live happily ever after the world. unfortunately doesn't operate that you have to remain engaged. whether it's a pretty pitcher acquaint that you are not david. the rush can, can the us remain late. you could respond to that general moment. i just want to put this to david can, can, can the us remain engaged in this while not being, physically present? can they, can they make sure that the taliban is, they govern. afghanistan? do not allow the country to, to,

to be overrun with these groups like al qaeda and i so, and so on. i don't think so. i mean, president biden said he was the 4th president, preside over war and f guest and want to be the last, but actually, he's the 5th president clinton fired cruise missiles and ok to targets in afghanistan, trying to track down al qaeda that was characterized by president bush, as you know, shooting cruise missiles at tense, which is not too far off, what actually happened. it is possible, but it is extremely more difficult. we won't have local intelligence networks. we don't have local basis or weaponry as degraded and the operations extremely expensive. so i, i agree with rapid sen, kingston. it is more likely that groups that want to do harm to united states find a safe haven in afghanistan. then it is likely that we are able to identify per, you know, target and then meaningfully obliterate these groups. and i don't think the taliban

is going to do it for us. go ahead. jenna, and govern spaces places without the rule of law, the world over are constantly vulnerable to becoming hotbeds for extremism. we know this, but what's also clear is that ongoing problems in afghan again, wasn't going to change the nature of the situation on the ground. yes, the withdrawl looks more like an abandonment and it's been needlessly mfc. and i believe should have been done different, we are where we are. but the notion that an ongoing commitment to continue to poor hundreds of billions of dollars into a country that we saw so quickly fell and failed to make furious advances. if misbegotten and it's hubris and it has distracted the united states and stretched our military, the largest in the world by a factor. all of these next major military is combined are still smaller than the u . s. defense. and yet, it has really strapped our forces and distracted the united states from addressing

other issues like russia, like china, like issues all around the world like climate and pandemic response. it's time to divert resources into the manifold areas where u. s. interests are all right, but for right now, you must confront the carrying crisis where we're going, we're going to have to leave it that we could certainly spend a lot longer talking about this, but phenomena, jenna benya, who david de rush and jack kinston, thanks so much for being with us and thank you as always for watching when you can see this program again, any time by visiting our website at 0 dot com and for the discussion, you can go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter handle where is at a j inside story to me hasn't speaker, and the whole team here, bye for now. the

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