lisa was not to scare the fish, but they're now being taught well competitive techniques. why med? you've been middle to the gold middle. more and more children are talking to me on what's sent and wanting to sign up. our doors are open for everyone a little. i prayed for this to happen, not only for us here in the amazon region, but i believe that all of brazil thought, and i think that every day it will grow more motivated by metals and now with the proper equipment. many of these children are training up to 4 hours a day, dreaming that one day they to make a pete, it's an elim pick games. david stokes out his era. ah, this is al jazeera and these are the headlines. speaking from the united arab emirates of jonathan's former president of gunny has defended his decision to leave campbell. he says he left to avoid violence and denies rooms that he flagged with

suitcases full of cash. the reports taliban sciences of open firearm for census in the east africa and city of july above 3 people are said to be killed and several others wounded. pride has moved from campbell. this was a particularly ugly incident. not i think it's being seen is really, since the taliban just assume power a couple of days ago as the 1st major active defined against them. as john by this very important city, it is east of here towards the border with pakistan. and this protest began over the national flag. now since the taliban have taken power, they have very consciously been removing the afghan national flag and replacing it with the taliban flag. we've seen that a lot here in the capital, kabul, it's left a lot of people. i very upset the international monetary funds withholding $460000000.00 form of canisters facing

a lack of clarity over government recognition. the u. s. is also rules and $9500000000.00 as african governments assets. you know the entire reserve of its central bank. the us defense secretary is concluded evacuations from cobble, haven't met that targets. lloyd austin says american troops don't have the capacity to extend beyond the campbell airport perimeter to get to help get more people of f . galveston and the british prime minister says the u. k. will do all that come to versa. humanitarian crisis in afghanistan, the boris johnson says he doesn't believe that military action against the taliban is an option. you as president joe biden says, he disagrees with the world's health organizations warning against giving chrome virus booster shots is unveiled, plans to offer them from september. they stay with us inside story is ah,

ah ah, ah, after 20 years, the tele bond is back in power in afghanistan. it says it will protect women's rights and set up an inclusive government. but has the armed group changed its ways? and what type of administration will emerge? this is inside sort ah, ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm how many millions of afghans who lived through the 1990 s. remember the tele bonds harsh rules and governing style. but

the arm group says it has changed as it gets ready to leave the country once again . in its 1st news conference since taking cobble on sunday, the taliban promised to protect women's rights give amnesty to those who worked with foreigners and respect media freedoms. its leaders also said they will not let other groups use afghanistan to launch attacks on any country. and they've called on women and other minorities to join their government. but many afghans and world leaders are skeptical. we'll get to our guests in a moment. first, this report from charlotte bellis in couple. after years in the shadows, the taliban spokesman's face was finally revealed. hullo, much ahead fronting for the 1st telephone press conference in 20 years. and 7000 us forces scramble to evacuate americans on military plains, the telephone coded and historic moment. as i always declared, actually taking the freedom to write the whole nations, the outcome people by using their legal rights after 20 years of war were able to

take their freedoms and clean the country of the patient occupiers. whole, the group could not reveal who leave the country much ahead. sid talk the ongoing for an inclusive political system and promised all africans rights will be respected. there's a lot of concern about whether women will be allowed to work, that girls can still go to school. what assurances can you give to women and girls that their rights will be protected with? i had the stomach emerett is committed to the right of women. within the framework of sharia are we may have the same rights they're going to be working shoulder to shoulder with us. we want to assured international community that will be not as cumulation against women, but of course we think of a religious framework. but after use for trust is hard to come by. as a woman, should i be scared of the telephone? not i don't know what it is. no. why should you be scared of us?

you should never be afraid of us. to tell him on his asked everyone in carville to continue their lives as usual, and keep going to work. it is also declared an amnesty for all those who are younger angel is forgiven. and the embassies and foreign nationals should feel the telephone has sought to portray itself is more moderate than during it's in 1900 ninety's rule. yet people are wondering if this really is the telephone to point out what the situation in council is really good. now, the taliban, here we have taken control of security and we will hold it until the end of the telephone have made a number of statements that on the surface, the reassuring. but that actions speak the deeper than words. it's very early now it's very fluid. it's very hard to say what is happening exactly. you to tell

a bonner in high spirits and defiant as going a stones days as a battlefield over your head city. hope people stop fleeing and state to the assets for the nation. the move on to hum. we have pardon everyone, all those who have fought against us. we don't want to repeat of war. we want to do away with the factors of conflict for these law, make me read off. i've got, he's done. does not have any conflict with anybody. we want the fighting to end. would you had stated journalists should remain free and independent to critique the group so i can improve. one journalist asked, you say you can forgive everyone, but do you think the victims can forgive you? the afghans on all sides. there is a lot of healing ahead. charlotte palace, jazeera cobble. all right, let's take a closer look at how the taliban ruled afghanistan back in the 1900 ninety's. the

armed group was formed in 1994 by molar omar, a former which i mean, who fought against the soviets. in the 1980s, his movement attracted popular support because of the lawlessness, corruption and instability that followed the soviet exit. the taliban took full power in 1996 after the fall of cobble and controlled nearly 90 percent of the nation. it bard girls from going to school and imposed capital punishment for various crimes. and the taliban government was overthrown in 2001 after the us invasion, triggered by the 911 attacks the all right, let's bring in our guess in cobble for him. so that head of the international relations department at cardon university. in belfast, michael simple practitioner chair at the senator george j. mitchell institute for global peace, security and justice at queen's university, belfast and in washington, omar summer, a former african ambassador to france and canada, and

a former adviser to africa and chief executive de la de la. a warm welcome to you all. and thanks for being with us today on inside story for him, let me start with you today. the talking about i said they're looking to form an inclusive government. what from your perspective, does that mean and will non taliban figures make up a part of the new government? well, by inclusive, according to me, that would be giving is to all those people who are the ones fighting the taliban as part of the previous government and also other minorities, but does expose and has are in the government so that everybody that use them. so in a, in a, in a future government and no one marginalized because that has always been one of the concerns amongst the people. that if

taliban form a sort of one handed unit, that's what government what about the minority, right. and, and political position for them. so by inclusive, i believe it must be wide ranging and covering all those who are, who were not thought to bond or who are, who are one opposed to the telephone room? oh my, let me ask you the same question. i just asked for him, i mean from your perspective, what's the make up of any future government going to look like? very difficult to say at this point as discussions are ongoing, we saw some astonishing pictures and news from called today with connie once was incarcerated and cobbled not long ago back in cobble and having meetings in

law's house with cars, right. i'm blowing others and then you went on to meet with good with the mature as well. and then you have a delegation of columns belonging to the old northern alliance. some of some of them. obviously, others are taking an opposition if you boy, great. now, but 2 of my suits brothers, for example, if full foreign minister rabbani and others who are in the slum about pockets done for the past couple of days. and they've been holding talks with public studies and maybe even having meetings with tom on to. but they will be back in cobble. so there is a push to create a broad base government, but i think this is going to take to be to stage a fair stage. one is, 1st of all, to agree to some kind of media of an interim or transitional setup. and we should expect that to be broad based. then they are going, they will have to work on something more permanent. that may take months or maybe

a year or more and what mr. mcgraw had the taller barn sportsman, they called a sort of creating a new state and a student new state order in the new political order. and that's going to take a bit longer because there are many discussions that have take place. we don't know, eventually if there will be a constitution approved. but i see this as a 2 step process of this one. michael omar just mentioned these meetings that took place in which i made cars. i and the lower part of, i mean to you, is that an encouraging sign? i think we have to be absolutely clear that efforts to achieve a broad base government which could end the conflict have been underway for a long time until now. have comprehensively failed. the taliban exercise the option of using armed force to grab all power for themselves. they have succeeded in that they are continuing the messaging that they are interested in a broad base government. and if one emerges, i think that the most off cons and most of the international community would

welcome it. but they haven't done a single thing other than use words to show their commitment to that. so i think the, if we look to the spirit of the, of the, the movement on the ground, the fighters who succeeded and over throwing the afghan government, they're not waiting for a broad base government. they're not waiting to share power with any one. as far as i'm concerned, they are determined to establish a government led by the taliban, which will enforce sharia law and establish a new state which is essentially a name or otherwise a repeat of the camera which they had previously. so i mean at the moment these are talks, these are ideas, it would be great if they worked out, but we haven't seen a single compromise from the taliban throughout this period. and there is, there is a possibility which i think that all of us must take seriously, which is that the continued talks and as long as the new talks in cobble are just a way of trying to keep hope alive. why the taliban consolidate themselves in sol

control of the african state? i mean, this is at the moment the most likely outcome and i have seen, i've heard nothing from the talks underway to suggest that the talk about actually are ready to receive any body with any political weight, any support and constituencies outside the yeah, the taliban at into government. so at the moment they're talking about this, the reality is the taller bond have grabbed power and itala and get to call the shots as to who will be in the, the new government for him. could you just tell our viewers for a moment what the mood is like in cobble right now? i mean, what are you hearing from people? are they concerned? is there a sense of worry and do they largely believe what the taliban is saying about it being a more moderate style of leadership now than it was in the 1990 s. while mamma there is optimism and as well as concern, the optimism is that the bond largely into couples with

that list. and it really and we didn't know they were no better than capital, which was an extreme concern to everybody. because you have, you have had a capital, there's a way to almost more than $6500000.00 people at any battle within the capital would be disastrous. and that's an option dotted by entered the cd. they largely tailed the an r t. and as well as the loading of the public people, public infrastructure and other thing also seemingly up to now from my bus. no my time to find i have met them now. they are so much all moderate approach there will behaved and be mainly normal. that is and also we are hearing of the. 2

national, the other i'm a guy had briefings yesterday to the public where a lot of things were mentioned and they were all taken on the the concern at the same time is that there has to be a clear road map announced by the taliban. what would be the future road map? what sort of a government which one is on hop? and also we have that we have lots ali who announced themselves yes it as the lead you to made. i think president of a one is on the who is the mean the share at the moment with the son of the commander much on my who is that i now who i've already announced resistance to point 0. that is also a concern now, because if we don't have a broad base all inclusive government and these people start

a new research and that means that a war will not in all. and then we would witness. 2 battles in the pockets of the country or met largely in the box. there will be air and war. so the people are happy because what is a different taliban? and also i've the same time they are concerned about the future road map. and because there is no clarity yet, that's what sort of governance structure or system would want to have after this. omar you spoke a few moments ago about what you believe needs to happen for negotiations to go forward. but let me ask you, if you think that there will be any international mediator is playing a part in any talks going forward. i this point, i don't,

i don't think so. i need he issued. could it be possible if all side had agreed and do i think that negotiations and pulse are now going to shift on his stomach? you know, cynicism aside. i think that the record is now clear. we can spend this as we want, but the record is that over the last 3 years, and especially over the weekend, and i know for a fact a ton of on put forward on 2 occasions, a power sharing arrangements and with details of how this can be done to act on politicians in cobble the person who basically sabotaged it was a chef. i mean everybody. lona honestly knows that i shall money for his own purposes. political purposes was a single handedly did not launch day deal because he needed a tale. bon, we're in agreement to have talks with everyone in the cornerstone anyone that wants to except when he saw himself as

a target and the tall one were not ready to talk to him when negotiated with him. this is why he was an obstacle to the peace process moving forward. obviously, there were other reasons as well, but that was the main reason and everybody and i don't now know this is part of the record. and we cannot change history with narratives that are false. we need to now grasp the moment there's an opportunity for our honest on to, to come together to unite. there are taught on who are against abroad based approach. there are either politicians who are proposed like mr. johnny, to even deal with the tale, but he wants to fight there. all kinds of different shades of politicians and upon is done and people are still willing to fight. but the majority of our funds, i would say now want stability in peach, and the prefer the broad based approach at this, until we go towards a more solid political system that reflects the will of the majority of atkins.

michael, how much has all of this changed the geo political map in asia, and how much is this going to be benefiting russia and china? i mean, are they going to be stepping in and essentially filling the void that was created by americans departure? well, it's quite clear that the here the afghans are so far suffering all the all course are listening to the listening to the hope that the owner is, is offering people have lost out, are the guns is nothing else. they him, in millions of off kinds of had their livelihoods disrupted, but the united states is withdrawn from the, from the region. it is still not clear how that void is going to be here. to be filled though, of course pakistan are will be x can be expected to, to back this government. but whether the taliban make it easy to do that or not,

depends on the decisions that they make in the, in the coming days. if they put together a hard line millicent regime and do not make the compromises necessary. i, it's even pakistan is going to find itself under pressure for engaging with them. they, i think the chinese preference is indeed to, to engage and cooperation with our, with pakistan. iran is very concerned with the development and is still strongly supportive of the idea of a broad base government. i think they feel that they can engage if there is a broad base government, but it's not sure whether that can be pulled off out. so i think that where we should expect a period of tradition in terms of the, the geo politics and the, the regional politics of it to see whether the taliban can get themselves into the kind of shape that people could deal with or not. because you know, until this week they the stated position are both in the region and internationally

. was that nobody would deal with a taliban regime which had been imposed by force. and now a taliban regime has been imposed by force. so the other, the international actors are left with a serious quandary for him. let me ask you about a couple of things that michael mentioned there. first of all, what role do you think pakistan is going to play in negotiations going forward? secondly, do you believe that russia is going to be open to working with the taliban going forward? well, i think both these countries have their concerns and they would want one is done to bunch a grid. for example, pakistan the moment one to be a trade off center for central isha. looking at the big project, which is a flagship part of the b r i. and i wanted to become free to hop into

pakistan needs a peaceful one is and if there is an abundance on that project or that reading can come, come, come through. but if there is chaos in war, definitely, then that would remain that be. so a peaceful one is done is definitely in favor of pakistan, where the russia, you had the concerns of indigo drug trade and also these over of it made them. now this also largely depends on the taliban behavior, apparently as, as we see, the family bun, ambitions and claim is. this is limited to they want to have is now make government an estate, and that means they are not concerned for regional causes of other groups. so if that happens and rushes ashore off of one is not being a launch bad,

then i think the russians would, would align themselves somehow because we should also not forget that one of the major concerns for russia was dice to finally been, are prepared to curtail that would part of that or bring it to just close up. so at large it depends on how valuable addresses these concerns on how they practically look at these concerns. so if these countries see that in for interest being somehow achieved through as taliban government, i think they will have no other problem. and i bet it seems the russian have said that they would be cautious in recognizing the government. we knew they would have to still see some action being taken by the taliban. omar, of course, there is a lot of concern right now that there could be

a refugee crisis now that the taliban has taken power and that so many afghans want to leave the country. what are the humanitarian implications of all that has happened? well, it depends on what, which, which reports you read and what accounts you trust more. and there is even a problem on this done overall exist. there wasn't even a problem before to talk about a started the military campaign that has probably been exacerbated by now because of the fact that the government is no longer as providing services as it should. these things will have to change very quickly, the tolerable whether they are going to be broad based, whether they are going to include some technocrats and bureaucrats in the system to run the initial. busy whether they are going to have, you know, a cosivity in the system and are going to be more flexible than compromise. they

have a huge responsibility on their shoulders now only to maintain security and stability, but also to make sure that they act on populations needs or address humanitarian. and otherwise the government is back on its feet and can function even though the government was was correct. the government was a government that really had very limited capacity to provide and it didn't even control at least half of the country until a few weeks ago. so with all of that, now at least all of us on is in one hand, but it's harder. but we'll have a hard time running and managing affairs. and lest, as i said, the open, the space, unless the bring in expertise and this visual flexibility and this, they engaged international community in ways that actual community wants to be engaged unless they can absorb and ask for assistance and aid that are on is done.

will need for used to come. so all of this obviously is going to be part of the challenges that they thought about would be facing and moving forward. michael, we only have about 30 seconds left. so i'm gonna ask you to please keep your answer short. do you believe there's going to be schisms going forward within the taliban? you believe that there will be a power struggle? i think the taliban are very good at maintaining their until the unity for the now they will manage to for, to maintain that the question is whether there will be resistance from outside. all right, we have run out of time. so we're going to have to leave our conversation there. thanks so much to all of our guests. for him set up, michael, simple and omar summer and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again anytime by visiting our website up to 0 dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a inside story. you can also join the conversation on twitter. our handle is at a g inside story from him. how much jerome and the whole team here, bye for now, the

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has reclaimed. but us withdraw began news earlier in 2013 and 14 witness follow the unit of the afghan national army. as they commenced the onerous part of confronting with taliban without make the support of a trail of young men fighting for their country. while knowing each day could be their la, i've got to stand own battle on a job here. the city of cobble has experience so much evil for decades, and they says another change to get used to. and one that's far from easy situation for now, it's not clear. the people are just lost and confused. there are deep rooted fears about the erosion of basic price to particular for women and girls, despite assurances from the taliban and about a return to true punishments for the crimes. the everybody will be safe,

nobody's kid will be kidnapped again to rants. now together that feeling that way forward into the new reality. ah i'm hello, he didn't in jo. how with a headlines on al jazeera of canister, the former president sharp. connie has spoken from the united arab emirates, and his 1st appearances sleep kabul. he defended his decision to leave and denied rumors. he fled with suitcases full of cash muscle getting the document for me should input. if i stayed, i would have witness bloodshed and couple, couple should not be turned into another yemen or syria over power struggles. so i was forced to leave.