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janice town until all american citizens out that have been chaotic scenes that couple airports with atkins desperately trying to leave off to the taliban. seized the capital shot balance is in couple with more than those trying to resist taliban rules. well, those parties yesterday wilson justin jalal about those. a few other provinces was focused mainly on the flag. the fact that taliban had taken down the flag. usually i've been here and independent states before and the flag is everywhere. so you're not seeing that so much now. but that yesterday was mainly focused on the flag. we do understand it is somewhat of a resistance movement building in the province of pan share, which is a very anti taliban stronghold, a few hours north of cobble that's being made by armored masoud, the son of a charm. a 3rd who is a big anti caliban leader. about 20 years ago. 2200 people are known to have died in haiti's earthquake with the rescue efforts. hampered by bad weather in todd
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we bring you the stories and developments that are rapidly changing the world. we live in. why are we not in the best situation? why has that money been wanted? how did that happen? counting the cost on al jazeera after 20 years, the taliban is back in power enough, denise, that it says it will protect women's rights and set up an inclusive government. but has the armed group changed its ways? and what type of administration will emerge? this is inside sort ah hello and welcome to the program. i'm had the jim jones, millions of afghans who lived through the 1990 s. remember the tele bonds harsh rules and governing style. but the arm group says it has changed as it gets ready
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to leave the country once again. and its 1st news conference since taking cobble on sunday. the taliban promised to protect women's rights. give amnesty to those who worked with foreigners and respect media freedoms. its leaders also said they will not let other groups use africana stand to launch attacks on any country. and they've called on women and other minorities to join their government. but many afghans and world leaders are skeptical. we'll get to our guests in a moment. first, this report from charlotte bellis, and couple after years in the shadows, the taliban smokes and face was finally revealed. w hulu much ahead, fronting for the 1st telephone press conference in 20 years. and 7000 us forces scrambled to evacuate americans on military plains. the telephone coded and historic moment as the club has been taken to freedom is the right of all nations. the african people by using their legal rights after 20 years of war,
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were able to take the freedom to clean the country of the patient occupiers. while the group could not reveal who lead the country much ahead, sid talk the ongoing for an inclusive political system and promised all afghans rights will be respected. there's a lot of concern about whether women will be allowed to work, that girls can still go to school. what assurances can you give to women and girls that their rights will be protected with? i had the stomach emerett is committed to the right of women. within the framework of sharia are we may have the same rights that going to be working shoulder to shoulder with us. we want to assured international community that will be not this cumulation against women. but of course, we think our religious framework but after use a for trust is hard to come by. as a woman, should i be scared of the telephone? not know what it is? no. why should you be scared of us?
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you should never be afraid of us to tell him on his asked everyone in carnival to continue their lives as usual, and keep going to work. it is also declared an amnesty for all those who work to younger angel is forgiven, and the embassies and foreign nationals should feel the telephone has sought to portray itself is more moderate than during it's 1900 ninety's rule. yet people are wondering if this really is the telephone 2 point or what the situation in capital is really good. now, the taliban, here we have taken control of security and we will hold it until the end of the telephone have made a number of statements that on the surface, the reassuring. but that actions speak the deeper than words, submit it very early. now it's very fluid, it's very hard to say what is happening exactly?
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you to tell a banner in high spirits and defiant as gonna stones days as a battlefield over your head said he hope people start fleeing and state to the assets for the nation. the move on to hum. we have pardon everyone, all those who have fought against us. we don't want to repeat of war. we want to do away with the factors of conflict for this law, make me read off. it's got, he's done. does not have any conflict with anybody. we want the fighting to end. would you had stated journalists should remain free and independent to critique the group so it can improve. oh, go ahead. one journalist after you say you can forgive everyone, but do you think the victims can give you the africans on all sides? there is a lot of healing ahead. charlotte palace out jazeera cobble. all right, let's take a closer look at how the taliban ruled afghanistan back in the 1900 ninety's. the
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armed group was formed in 1994 by molar omar, a former which i dean who fought against the soviets in the 1980s. his movement attracted popular support because of the lawlessness, corruption and instability that followed the soviet exit. the taliban took full power in 1996 after the fall of cobble and controlled nearly 90 percent of the nation. it bard girls from going to school and imposed capital punishment for various crimes. and the taliban government was overthrown in 2001 after the us invasion, triggered by the 911 attacks. the alright, let's bring in our guess in cobble for him. so that head of the international relations department at cardon university in belfast, michael simple practitioner chair at the senator george j. mitchell institute for global peace, security and justice at queen's university, belfast and in washington, omar summer, a former african ambassador to france and canada, and
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a former adviser to africa and chief executive. i beloved de la a warm welcome to you all, and thanks for being with us today on inside story for him. let me start with you today. the talking about i said they're looking to form an inclusive government. what from your perspective, does that mean and will non taliban figures make up a part of the new government? well, by inclusive, according to me, that would be giving is to all those people who are the ones fighting the taliban as part of the previous government and also other minorities, but does expose bix and has are in the government so that everybody that use them. so in a, in a, in a future government and no one seems themselves marginalized because that has always been one of the concerns amongst the people that if
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taliban a sort of one handed unit, that's what government what about the minority and right and, and political position for them, so by inclusive i believe it must be wide ranging and covering all those who are, who were not thought to bond or who are, who are one opposed to the taliban? who's on my let me ask you the same question i just asked for him. i mean from your perspective, what's the make up of any future government? going to look like? very difficult to say at this point. as discussions are ongoing, we saw some astonishing pictures and news from call today. with connie once was incarcerated in call long ago, back in cobble and having meetings in law's house with car i'm blowing others. and
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then you went on to meet with good with mature as well. and then you have a delegation of ab tom's belonging to the old northern alliance. some of some of them. obviously, others are taking an opposition viewpoint right now. but 2 of my suits brothers, for example, if former foreign minister rabbani and others who are in the slum about pockets done for the past couple of days. and they've been holding talks with public studies and maybe even having meetings were taught of on to. but they will be back in cobble. so there's a push to create a broad base government, but i think this is going to take to, to be, to stage a fair stage. one is, 1st of all, to agree to some kind maybe of an interim or transitional set up. and we should expect that to be broad based, then they're going, they would have to work on something more permanent. that may take months or maybe
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a year or more and what mr. mcgraw had, the taller bon spokesman, they called a sort of creating a new state and a student new state order in the new political order. and that's going to take a bit longer because there are many discussions that have to take place. we don't know, eventually if there would be a constitution approved. but i see this as a 2 step process. at this point. michael omar just mentioned these meetings that took place in which i made cars. i and de la de la were a part of i mean to you, is that an encouraging sign? i think we have to be absolutely clear that efforts to achieve a broad base government which could end the conflict have been underway for a long time. and until now have comprehensively failed. the taliban exercise the option of using armed force to grab all power for themselves. they have succeeded in that they are continuing the messaging that they are interested in a broad base government. and if one emerges, i think that the most africans,
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and most of the international community would welcome it, but they haven't done a single thing other than use words to show their commitment to that. so i think the, if we look to the spirit of the, of the, the movement on the ground, the fighters who succeeded in overthrowing the african government, they're not waiting for a broad base government. they're not waiting to share power with any one. as far as i'm concerned, they are determined to establish a government led by the taliban, which will enforce sharia law and establish a new state which is essentially a name or otherwise repeated the emerett which they had previously. so i mean at the moment these are talks, these are ideas, it would be great if they worked out, but we haven't seen a single compromise from the taliban throughout this period. and there is, there is a possibility which i think that all of us must take seriously, which is that the continued talks and as long as the new talks in cobble are just a way of trying to keep hope alive. why the taliban consolidate themselves in sol
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control of the african state? i mean, this is at the moment the most likely outcome and i have seen, i have heard nothing from the talks underway to suggest that the talk about actually are ready to receive anybody with any political weight, any support and constituencies outside the yeah. the taliban into government. so at the moment they're talking about this. the reality is the taliban have grabbed power and a ton of and get to call the shots as to who will be in the the new government for him. could you just tell our viewers for a moment what the mood is like in cobble right now? i mean, what are you hearing from people? are they concerned? is there a sense of worry and do they largely believe what the taliban is saying about it being a more moderate style of leadership now than it was in the 1990 s where there is optimism and as well as concern, the optimism is that the target bond largely into 2 problems with
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that list and it really, and we didn't know there were no better than couple which was an extreme concern to everybody because you have that you have had a capital. there's a way to almost more than $6500000.00 people at any battle with capital without the disastrous and cut off the data, but entered the city, they largely detailed the, an r t. and as well as the noting of the public people public infrastructure and other thing also seemingly up to now from my bus no my time, i have met them now. they are so much of a moderate approach. they will behaved and be seemingly normal. that is and also we are hearing off the. 2 national,
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i do love the do, and i'm and i had briefings yet that it to the public where a lot of things were mentioned and they were all taken on the the concern at the same time is that there has to be a clear road map, announced by the taliban. now what would be the future road map? what sort of a government which one is on hub and also we have, we have lots ali who announced himself yes, that as the lead you to made. i think president of a one is on the who is the mean the share at the moment with the, with some of this name, commander much on my who is that i now who i've already announced a resistance to point 0. that is also a concern. now, because if we don't have a broad base all inclusive government and these people start
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a new research and that means that the war will not in all. and then we would witness. 2 battles in the pockets of the country or met largely in the box. there will be air and war. so the people are happy because what is a different taliban? and also i've the same time they are concerned about the future road map. and because there is no clarity yet, that's what sort of governance structure or system what i want to have after this. omar you spoke a few moments ago about what you believe needs to happen for negotiations to go forward. but let me ask you, if you think that there will be any international mediator is playing a part in any talks going forward. i this point i don't,
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i don't think so immediate. and could it be possible if all side had agreed and do i think that negotiations and culture now going to shift on a stuck, you know, cynicism, a site i think that the record is now clear. we can spend this as we want, but the record is that over the last 3 years, and especially with an 18 model. and i know for a fact a ton of on put forward on 2 occasions, a power sharing arrangements and with details of how this can be done to act on politicians in cobble. the person who basically sabotaged it was a chef. i mean, everybody. lona honestly knows it and i shot money for his own purposes. political purposes was a single handedly did not want a deal because he needed a taller bon. we're in agreement to have talks with everyone in the cornerstone anyone except when he saw himself as
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a target and the tall one were not ready to talk to him when negotiated with him. this is why he was an obstacle to the peace process moving forward. obviously there were other reasons as well, but that was the main reason and everybody and african is done now. no, this is part of the record, and we cannot change history with narratives that are false. we need to now grasp the moment. there's an opportunity for our honest on to, to come together unite there are talking about who are against a broad based approach. there are either politicians who are supposed like mr. sony to even deal with the tale, but he wants to fight there. all kinds of different shades of politicians and upon is done and people are still willing to fight. but the majority of our funds, i would say now wants stability in peach. and the prefer broad based approach at this, until we go towards a more solid political system that reflects the will of the majority of the african
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. michael, how much has all of this changed the geo political map in asia? and how much is this going to be benefiting russia and china? i mean, are they going to be stepping in and essentially filling the void that was created by americans departure? well, it's quite clear that the here the afghans are so far suffering, although of course, are you listening to the listening to the hope that that room or is, is offering people have lost out are the outcomes is nothing else. they him in millions of off kinds of how their livelihoods disrupted, but the united states is withdrawn from the, from the region. it is still not clear how that void is going to be here. to be filled though, of course, pakistan will, can be ex, can be expected to move to back this government. but whether the taliban make it easy to do that or not, depends on the decisions that they make in the,
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in the coming days. if they put together a hard line millicent regime and do not make the compromises necessary. i, if even pakistan is going to find itself under pressure for engaging with them they, i think the chinese preference is indeed to, to engage and cooperation with our, with pakistan. iran is very concerned with the development and is still strongly supportive of the idea of a broad base government. i think they feel that they can engage if there is a broad base government, but it's not sure whether that can be pulled off out. so i think that where we should expect a period of tradition in terms of the, the geo politics and the, the regional politics of it to see whether the taliban can get themselves into the kind of shape that people could deal with or not. because, you know, until this week they the stated position are both in the region on internationally
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. was that nobody would deal with a taliban regime which had been imposed by force. and now a taliban regime has been imposed by force. so the other, the international actors are left with a serious quandary for him. let me ask you about a couple of things that michael mentioned there. first of all, what role do you think pakistan is going to play in negotiations going forward? secondly, do you believe that russia is going to be open to working with the taliban going forward? well, i think both these countries have their concerns and they would want to pilot bunch a grid. for example, packet, i'd be more than one to be a trade off central for felicia, looking at the big project which is a flagship part of the b r i. and i wanted to become it free to hop into
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pockets on needs a peaceful one is done. and if there is an abundance on that project or that reading can come and come through. but if there is chaos in war, definitely, then that would remain that be. so a peaceful one is done is definitely to be in favor of pakistan, where the russia, you had the concerns of indigo drug trade and also these over of it made them. now this also largely depends on the taliban behavior, apparently as, as we see, the taliban ambitions and claim is, is limited to all they want to have is now make government and a state and that means they are not concerned for reach know causes of other groups so if that happens, and russia is sure of, of, of, of one is on not being
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a launch pad, then i think the russians would, would align themselves somehow because we should also not forget that one of the major concerns for russia was dice to finally been are prepared to take that would part of that or bring it to just close up. so at large it depends on how valuable addresses these concerns and how they practically look at these concerns. so if these countries see that in for interest being somehow achieved through as taliban government, i think they will have no other problem. and i bet it seems the russian had said that they would be cautious in the goodness in the government. we knew they would have to still see some action being taken by the taliban. omar, of course, there is a lot of concern right now that there could be
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a refugee crisis now that the taliban has taken power and that so many afghans want to leave the country. what are the humanitarian implications of all that has happened? well, it depends on what, which, which reports you read and what accounts you trust more. there is a problem on this done overall, they exist. there wasn't even a problem before natal on a started their military campaign that has probably been exacerbated by now because of the fact that the government is no longer as providing services as it should. these things will have to change very quickly, the talking about whether they, they're going to be broad based, whether they want to include some technocrats and bureaucrats in the system to run the initial. busy whether they are going to have, you know, a cosivity in the system and are going to be more flexible than compromise. they
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have a huge responsibility on their shoulders now only to maintain security and stability, but also to make sure that they act on populations needs or address humanitarian and otherwise the government is back on its feet and can function. the government was was correct. the government was a government that really had very limited capacity to provide and it didn't even control at least half of the country until a few weeks ago. so with all of that, now at least all of our on is in one hand, but it's harder. but we'll have a hard time running and managing affairs. and lest, as i said, the open, the space, unless the bring in expertise and visual flexibility and this, they engaged international community in ways that actual community wants it to be engaged unless they can absorb and ask for assistance. and aid that are on is done
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. will need for used to come. so all of this obviously is going to be part of the challenges that they thought about will be facing and moving forward. michael, we only have about 30 seconds left. so i'm gonna ask you to please keep your answer short. do you believe there's going to be schisms going forward within the taliban? you believe that there will be a power struggle? i think the taliban are very good at maintaining their until the unity for the now they will manage to, to maintain that the question is whether there will be resistance from outside. all right, we have run out of time. so we're gonna have to leave our conversation there. thanks so much to all of our guests for him. so michael, simple and omar summit and thank you for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website, algeria dot com. and for further discussion, go to our facebook page at facebook dot com, forward slash ha, inside story. you can also, during the conversation on twitter, our handle is at ha, inside story for me, how much room and a whole team here, bye. for now, the
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