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before it becomes missing, gash could potentially turn this still john industry into a much needed game changer. cnu and al jazeera palka chilly can find a lot more on our website there just with us in w w dot 0 dot com. ah, this is i'll just say that these are the top stories are confidential reports by the un claims. the taliban has priority list of people who wants to arrest in ghana, son. those at risk include african military police and intelligence units. the u. n . says the taliban have been carrying out targeted door to door visits. trouble international airport. the evacuation of diplomats and afghans continues. the us moved 3000 people on thursday, including those waiting for visas. nato says about 800000 people have been evacuated since the taliban took over on sunday. robert bryan's in couple. what's
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more. the report talks about former military and also intelligent personnel from the former regime being targeted taliban going door to door. also worrying, they talks about the families of those people if they don't get the individuals themselves. the families are then targeted as a way of putting pressure on those individuals to come forward to my dentist who they are. and also talks about in full recruiting. inform is try to a presumably set up a network to try to identify all of these individuals. this, as we know goes against what the taliban has been saying from the very start. it has no interest in recriminations, reprisals that say wants a different type of regime. i want to start afresh. southern head, his only medical oxygen plant has been left severely damaged after sundays. powerful as like, more than 2000 people have been killed in sizes more have been seriously injured. demand for oxygen and hate has gone up to 100 percent in the last month. is elian's
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extended its nationwide locked on until next tuesday, after the number of covert 19 cases there jumped to 31 measures were imposed 3 days ago after the country detected its 1st local infections in nearly 6 months. all the new infections of the delta variant and you've been linked to an outbreak in australia. the world's biggest car make our toyota is cutting its worldwide production by 40 percent as the corona, virus surgeon, asia. watson's a global shortage of micro chips. toyota says it's planned to make 900000 cars. next month has been reduced to $540000.00 german coming out. he has also announced its extending summer holidays 410000 workers due to a cotton production. those are the headlines. the news continues here. and all to 0, also inside story scene half an hour of life. ah,
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[000:00:00;00] ah, al jazeera, ever down to the thousands of afghans have been scrambling at cobble the airport to flee. afghanistan and european countries are worried about influx the people at their border. so are they facing a refugee crisis, and what can be done to help those who fled their home? this is inside story. ah, ah.
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hello and welcome to the program. i'm a hammer, jim, john. thousands of afghans have been trying to leave their country after the taliban takeover, and that's raising concerns about a mass of refugees trying to enter europe and other countries. the taller bonds leaders have promised and received a former african army soldiers, as well as contractors and translators, who worked for international forces. many of them are being evacuated by western capital that are taking staff out of afghanistan. and some governments have offered resettlement plans to thousands of african refugees, but others are not willing to accept them and are calling for tougher border controls. they're concerned about a repetition of the 2015 refugee crisis for the time being as a matter of some 1000 people in dirt board. but daily days or weeks and months of companies may be a matter of many more people that are foreclosed. we're going to leave the country and his wife can reach us,
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but i don't think we have the present problem from the security point of view for me because you can reach a point of view of us confronted migrants for it. don't call them my guns. the exile people, people who are flying to save their lives. turkey is among the country of increasing their border security. it's just finished building a new wall, nearly 300 kilometers long on the eastern border with iran to prevent illegal crossings by people smugglers and mainly african migrants. but some afghans have already entered matters. i want to sign up on a fun, but i've come from us kind of stand the situation and i'm gonna send with 10. the taliban captured the whole country, but there is no work that we were compelled to come here to my region wanting. we've come from a canister and we want to go to europe. the situation is bad enough. got to stop. the taliban has come there. they behead people. i mean there is no work and it's going to stop. we're unfortunate poor and displaced by crossing the borders. we reached here my, the m o u n 8 agencies or warning of a humanitarian crisis and i've kind of stand and i've called on the taliban to
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allow them unhindered access to civilians. more than 550000 afghans have been internally displaced since the beginning of the year. the heads of you in an international age group of appeals for more humanitarian funding for the country, warning their $800000000.00 short of what's needed. ah. all right, let's bring in our guests joining us on skype from cobble ballasa. worry an afghan journalist from geneva. shabby among to you in refugee agency spokeswoman and from mexico city, camille, that cause a policy analyst at the migration policy institute. a warm welcome to you all, and thanks so much for joining us on inside story today. shabby, let me start with you today. the you, you and hcr has said repeatedly how concerned it is by the unfolding humanitarian crisis and i've canister. first, i want to ask you, what is the scope of the crisis currently? what does it look like? and also, there are a lot of people who are expressing concerns about a potential refugee crisis. but this is really more of
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a crisis that concerns internally displaced persons, right? well, thank you. mm hm. and that is indeed the, the clarification here and what sort of happening on the ground since the beginning of the year. we've seen a number of us guns have been forcibly displaced inside afghanistan. so from the, from january till the present day, we've seen 550000 people who have been forced to flee the harms, and they're all across the country. but they remain within afghanistan. and they actually join another 2900000 people have previously been displaced within the country itself. so we are dealing with a massive internal displacement situation inside afghanistan. that requires a crucial humanitarian support. many of those who have been forced to flee, they need shelter, they need health care, water, sanitation, basic assistance to enable them to, to set up and be able to best address their needs while they remain displaced. there is talk and lots of speculation about refugee flows across borders. but to
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date we've really seen these in a much smaller scale and nothing compared to the magnitude of what's happening inside the country below. let me ask you, just how dire is the humanitarian situation on the ground in afghanistan right now? well, we definitely have a humanitarian crises in terms of people losing their livelihood, their crops, businesses. you know, over the last many months of the fighting, people have been displaced in some numbers to cobble. but it's also the fear in uncertainty that is prevalent among people, especially among those a generation of the ones who been working with western countries and international military's. so when you look at the car, they international airport and you look at the chaos, the side, you'd be the heartbreaks. you know, that alone tells you how wonderful can people remain in the absence of whole or are
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better and more peaceful of water sun. i was able to confirm that a big number of people are now moving out of the city and going back to their own villages and valleys and districts. these are population warm, rural, one from the countryside will have fled the fighting either in the last month or in the last year or so at least some hope there, but honest would need a lot to rebuild the destroyed and damaged countryside, whether you talk. busy about planning side bombs from major highways. whether you talk about rebuilding the critical infrastructure, you know, bridges, other infrastructure that's vital to everyday life. and i would also add that it is a lit, was just for the taliban to make a transition from a fighting force into governance. we have to really remember the taliban are no
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more the shadow government. they can most of us. and they have brought in with them how themselves level soldiers were all known, fighting and war and finance, towns valid and hamlets and the more parts of the country. and now here they are in cobble and a major urban cent. a city of 6000000 people with high crime rate, the complicated streets denali, with an honest on, you know, is a country where i say, you know, the, let's see, factor is a month because every hour, every other day, things are changing, such a fast phase events. are unfolding that it is hard to make sense of it easily. camille, it seems like there is this narrative that is starting to take hold, that there will be this mass exodus of african refugees that are trying to get to europe. and it also seems like there are a lot of european politicians who are really in
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a panic about this right now. is there any evidence to support this contention? this idea that you are going to see a mass influx of afghans to europe, similar to what you saw in 2015 thanks. i think it's really too early to say. and as a reminder that you represent the chief, what we're seeing now on the ground is different. it's primarily internal displacement. i think we should also remind ourselves that most refugees are likely to seek shelter in the closest country in iran pocket. and they have, historically, there are to europe is dangerous. and as we've seen in the past few days, they've been closure troubles at the border with turkey iran pocket. so i would be really careful on this figures on crossing night is for sure something that you're getting needs money for and that they need to prepare for. they need to prefer an adequate response. and i think that's where, how we manage any potential crisis at your can border can be different. and i think we have this experience from to
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a 1516 that we've learned from and that we have non national iso image and fees that of increase order operational capacity. not to say this is perfect, that's far from the keys. reception in particular, remain a weak spot in the system. the will need to be addressed. but i think we need like, that's what the discussion should be about. can we map out all the possible in the next few months? and i think below referred to the uncertainty of the middle class. most, many of them are in their home and date they're deciding what to do. and so your kinship peeper for different things that could happen in the next few mom. all right, let's take a step back for a moment to delve into this particular question. are afghans really heading to europe in large numbers? authorities and turkey said more than 27000 african migrants have been intercepted so far this year as they cross the border with iran. it's a root commonly used to smuggle afghans to europe. but only $3200.00 are estimated
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to have crossed. you borders in the 1st half of this year. that's a decrease in more than 40 percent compared to the previous year. with the, with a when ya is increasingly being used as a route by african refugees. the government is accusing bella was pushing asylum seekers across the border. at least 85 percent of african refugees lived in countries that neighbor africana stan like iran and pakistan shall be. let me ask you, you and hcr has released a non return advisory for afghanistan, calling for a bar on force returns of afghan nationals. what is the level of concern for those who might be forced to return? what could happened to them was in light of the unfolding humanitarian emergency in the country and the protection issues. and the concerns that we're seeing. the critical thing is that if people are trying to flee in search of safety and protection, borders should remain open to them. they must be able to access,
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access asylum and whether that is in neighboring countries or elsewhere. this is critical. refugees have a right to access asylum to seek safety to be protected. so this is overwhelming concern. but the other issue is that if there are any considerations of returning or possibly returning of gone nationals back to us gone on. we are really urging against that in life of the situation and the protection risks and issues that they could face. and so we have issues this advisory basically asking, requesting, urging that these suspenders, at least until the security human rights and overall situation improved. but this is, this is one aspect, but the 2nd aspect is also ensuring that we are support the humanitarian response for the people inside have gone on for the people that are possibly displaced and not require support for assistance programs, but also protection support and not really has to be sustained. so these are group
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of women concerns the for the situation in the country and for those that are may have needs and may try to leave michelle, let me just follow up with you real quick. obviously another concern is going to be unhindered access for you when you and hcr other agencies, are you getting that unhindered access that you need right now? well, we've been present enough, gone on for decades as have many other humanitarian partners. and we've been responding to the needs on the ground. it's the people of us going on, those that have been affected by conflict. but i just placed that to need our, our response and our support commitment is to be able to continue that. as of today we're still there, we are responding, we're working with partners. but obviously our assistance is predicated on having the guarantees of safety and security for our staff, for our partners, and also the access to local community. so based on the 2 key issues, and we are continually engaging and working to ensure that we have that access. but
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we out there on the ground since the beginning of the year, we've been able to do humanitarian assessments for full $100000.00 people and gone on and also provide assistance to a quarter of a 1000000 people. so these programs and our work is ongoing and that's where our commitment is below shelby. i was talking about the concern for afghans who might be forced by other countries to return right now to afghanistan. let me ask you how dangerous could it be for afghans who would be forced to come back to afghanistan right now? well, this is one of the dilemmas. like over the last many years, these western embassies, special european embassies with the problem of faith. which was simply not true and until a week or so ago when the situation like really bought worse and it was an imminent danger and the wrong problem. city that different ations stop. i would say one of them is not safe. one of them is not a country where people see a whole future,
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especially economically or get about, you know, the security for a minute. since what has happened over the last few days of taken over the entire country. and it is that no denial on the part of these countries really recognize the problem situation at the same time. there's a lot of politics involved in this as well. you have gotten government at the time under mister sharp, why? he continued lashing out these refugees, very publicly saying that they had broken the social contract, that the situation was good here. and he was very supportive of such support ations because he thought that would sent in his position to europe in countries in terms of funding. but the harsh reality, you know, is that if these people do come back, you know, they, and they don't see any economic future here be. this is a country where, you know, grievances and range and retributions,
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even other vintage district level. you know, put costs your life. so, you know, i'm very sympathetic to people who have left for a better life when the country is simply not saved. and the environment is not conducive. and i think the politics of, you know, governments especially here, really undermine that, that, you know, basic human rights for those are one specially on very, very vulnerable communities. camille, i saw you nodding along to some of the belie was saying there, i want to see if you want to jump in. but i also want to ask you from your vantage point. how are evacuations going for afghans who worked for europe and organizations and who had been targeted by the taliban? yes. so maybe to point on best. the 1st one is the african government asked for more atoria on the partition for 3 months. and we had to this letter on the 5th of august from 6 member bade,
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asking the european commission to engage in discussion with capital to continue to continue this return. so here i think i still, i say it's highly pulse go. it's been both sides by certain you remember state, and it's been a bit of a concerning some of whether european government can reach common front on this question. be it from region to up on the stone, but also the response to the crisis more broadly. and so that's, that's what the return us for the back ration. so several countries are trying to evaporate up, going to the risk this involved often who worked a translator for your kin for him, for days who worked for in g o for embassies, several countries of all. i've also said that they would open it to other african at risk of being individually targeted be the journalist artist, other activists. but selecting people has been extremely challenging in the past days. and even the one who get on a list to be created based obstacles,
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you go to the airport given high quality creation you. and then they're the one who are nodding capital, who are in the provinces. and i'm concerned that these people are not going to be able to be evacuated at least not in the next week or below. you know, camille just mentioned something very interesting point, which is the fact that even those who may have been clear to be evacuated or, or get visas, it's very difficult for many of them to actually get to the city to get to the airport. correct. i mean, this is, this is very dangerous terrain for them, right? i've been speaking to a number of people here in cobble and in few other cities. this is exactly the concern. the journey is not, you know, less than 152030 minutes for many directions in the city problem, especially these days that you don't have the use of traffic down. it is the security is the taliban checkpoint,
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leading up to the airport. it is the massive crowd or hundreds of people united states risk of some feed, for example, killing a young doctor for a family. it is the risk of being thought that by the american forces and by the former one intelligence service special forces. busy unit that is now working with americans to secure the parameters there. so it, it is indeed a heartbreaking reality. it's friday and i would say, you know, it is, you know, a chain of events for 4 or 5 days which has continued to result in the dead and injury of on. but it's also torture. you might, you know, i want people of families, the rest of the world is just simply in shop. when you see that i wonder, claiming on the us air force play and then fell. i don't know where they manage to hide themselves. but as the plane was taking off you know, their objects that were 1st seen
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a luggage later on. i witnesses accounts and i feel about. busy those were human beings instantly getting killed. i think this mission started at the 11th hour and to get out 121-5000 american citizens along to the airport would be a massive challenge. you know, forget about the generation of 5 lines. working with the americans, with european countries, there are different resettlement schemes and plans. this is also want to start more capital generation is the most educated generation is the most invested generation of ones who are going to be varying their dreams and aspirations are forced to leave. and now this reputation and fear, although the taliban as continuously said publicly that they do not engage in retribution and target killing, they've given such assurances, but some human rights activists that i've been speaking to of call for. what do you
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say should be a humanitarian part of a proper process under which these people can certainly be evacuated? and they said, artificial timelines. you know what this evacuation line is also sending sharp waves because when i was here in the time, you know this will be all. busy in 4 weeks time it's scary, isn't it? what is next? you know, we have been abandoned. we've been betrayed by our allies. and we have been badly bad in the form of government when the president abruptly led the country shabby. i've heard you and many of your colleagues on several occasions express deep concern for women and girls, and i've counted sam because of the situation and the impact that it has had on them. let me ask you what kind of trauma have they faced? have they been through what kind of toll is this taking on that population? well, with sameness here, the majority of those who have been forced to play the harm's,
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they are women and children. we have statistics showing that 80 percent of those that were just placed in recent weeks. they were women and children services. this is a huge humanitarian concern. when you have so many, especially children, i think they comprise perhaps 60 percent of those who have been displaced. and so the real consent to making sure that we can meet their needs. and many of them may have health needs that may, that may need to be taken care of, may have gone through traumatic situations or, or have trauma needs that need urgent attention. and then there are obviously, although the dynamics things have changed so rapidly, we are trying to keep track on developments. but obviously our overwhelming concern is for the situation of people affected by, by the situation and for women and children. and to make sure that they, they have their basic needs met, that they are protected there. obviously lots of human rights concerns and
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considerations. so that's why it's really important for humanitarian actors who are on the ground to, to stay there, to engage, to advocate for these protections and for these fund a mental right. and that's why the evacuation just one part of the response. now we're not involved with those evacuations. they are arrangements that are organized between the governments of the countries concerned and the people of us got us done, but they are not arrangements that involve us. we are a refugee and humanitarian agency, but we are there and we also have the same question that evaluation is going to benefit a limited number of people, but they can't over shudder and they are not a substitute for the rest of the humanitarian response. so that's why it's crucial that we need support for the humanitarian situation in the country to respond and to be able to help the africans who, who are there and don't have the luxury or liberty or the opportunity to be able to, to take that protection elsewhere. so why it's so critical to be able to respond to
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both needs on the ground. camille, agencies, the you in other groups are trying to raise funds through the international community to help africana stan at such a critical time. we know that at this stage they are hundreds of millions of dollars short of where they need to be. let me ask you, when it comes to the humanitarian response going forward, how much support do you expect may come from the i mean the, you just really the statement today committing to support, you know, the human tardy response, you know, gone. i don't how much it's still i think a bit of a question on yeah for everyone. but if i can, i would want to complement that because i also think as we are planning the committee turn in response, which is obviously the top priority. there also need to be some thinking about the mall longer term response. and this is something that chancellor merkel referred to actually in the past few days that you know,
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one thing that one mistake that was made made in the response to the student crisis would not provide sufficient support to the country and hosting the majority of syrian refugees. and we know that people playing up to date will not return anytime soon. this is less than, you know, from the past crisis. it's christ protected people can stay in excel for the case. and so we need to plan with t t with national authorities in country like project than any route that these community to host them that are also vulnerable can receive this form of assistance . and, and i think here, for instance, you and i share pakistan in july, i was reporting that only half of their, you know, military and appeal i had been address. and so that's also something that we need to think about moving forward. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there today. thank you so much. all of our guest ballasa worry, shall be amman, too. and camille, the cause and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again anytime by
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