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and from now on the spread of videos like this one could be considered an attack against fidel castro's revolution was that was what i meant. then, once again, cuba is seeking absolute control of a monopoly on internet access and telecommunications and is also formalizing digital repression. it is seeking to limit the space where people can access information freely. cuba is in the middle of a massive economic crisis, and discontent is on the rise. while the government rushes to carry out reforms any social, desperately trying to control descent. beating some will and jesse to ah, this is all, these are the top stories, a confidential un report claims the taliban as priority lists of people that wants to arrest enough. janice, stan, those targeted into soldiers,
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police and intelligence personnel. the taliban internationalists focuses dismissed . the report saying the group is focused on restoring order. the evacuation of diplomats and africans is continually a couple international airport. the us moved 3000 people and thursday, nato says about 18000 have been evacuated since the taliban took over. robert brice has more from capital at times the taliban will put in place check boys to try to control the numbers down the airport road. that actually gets to the airport to stop people getting that the taliban is telling people that if they don't have a reason to be there, they shouldn't be that they should leave. but still people are trying to get there . and of course, as well as civilians trying to get to the domestic terminal, which remains close and the taliban and turning them away. there are also lots of other people trying to use the airport road, who i do have a seat on these evacuation flights, or special charter flights that are being laid on. who should be allowed to get
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through. malaysia kings appointed ismael, southern jacobo was the new prime minister, marking the return of the long ruling and no party. he replaces locating the scene who resigned on monday, it seems. coalition fell apart over criticism. he mishandled the corona virus pandemic. a corona virus lockdown in australia is most popular, city has been extended until the end of september. the state of new south wales is reported more than 400 cases a day over the past week. most of them in sydney and the operators, the southern haiti's only medical oxygen plans are appealing for help after it was severely damaged in last sunday's earthquake and supplies. several hospitals demand for oxygen swords this month, driven by the coven, 1900. pandemic and casualties from the athlete more than 2000 people now known to have died. those are the headlines coming up next is inside story. goodbye. news.
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news. news. news. thousands of afghans have been scrambling at double the airport to flee. afghanistan and european countries are worried about influx of the people at their border. so are they facing a refugee crisis? and what can be done to help those who fled their home? this is inside story. ah . hello and welcome to the program. i'm a hammer, jim, john, thousands of afghans have been trying to leave their country after the taliban takeover. and that's raising concerns about
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a mass of refugees trying to enter europe and other countries. the taller bonds leaders have promised and received a former african army soldiers, as well as contractors and translators, who worked for international forces. many of them are being evacuated by western capital that are taking staff out of afghanistan. and some governments have offered resettlement plans to thousands of african refugees, but others are not willing to accept them and are calling for tougher border controls. they're concerned about a repetition of the 2015 refugee crisis for the time being as a mental and some 1000 people in dirt. but day days, a week of month to companies. maybe as a matter of many more people, the foreclosure would into the country and his wife can reach us. but i don't think we have the present problem from the security point of view for me to ship with the point of view of confront maintenance for. i don't call them my guns, the exile people. people who are flying to save their lives. turkey is among the
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countries increasing their border security. it's just finished building a new wall, nearly 300 kilometers long on its eastern border with iran to prevent illegal crossings by people smugglers and mainly africa migrants. but some afghans have already entered, matters that want to sign the funding. i've come from us kind of stand the situation and i'm gonna send with intent the taliban captured the whole country. but there is no work that we were compelled to come here to the most recent morning . we've come from us, get this done and we want to go to europe. the situation is bad enough. got to stop . the taliban has come there. they behead people. i mean there is no work and going to stop. we're unfortunate poor and displaced by crossing the borders. we reached here you in agencies or warning of a humanitarian crisis and i've kind of stand and i've called on the taliban to allow them unhindered access to civilians. more than 550000 afghans have been internally displaced since the beginning of the year. the heads of you in an international aid groups of appeals for more humanitarian funding for the country,
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warning their $800000000.00 short of what's needed. ah. all right, let's bring our guests joining us on skype from cobble belong. so worry an afghan journalist from geneva, shabby among to you in refugee agency spokeswoman and from mexico city, camille, that cause a policy analyst at the migration policy institute. a warm welcome to you all. and thanks so much for joining us on inside story today. shabby, let me start with you today the you, you and hcr has said repeatedly how concerned it is by the unfolding humanitarian crisis, and i've canister. first i want to ask you, what is the scope of the crisis currently? what does it look like? and also there are a lot of people who are expressing concerns about a potential refugee crisis, but this is really more of a crisis that concerns internally displaced persons, right? well, thank you. uh huh. that is indeed the clarification here. and what sort of happening
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on the ground since the beginning of the year, we've seen a number of us gowns have been forcibly displaced inside afghanistan. so from the, from january till the present day, we've seen 550000 people who have been forced to flee the harms, and they're all across the country. but they remain within afghanistan and they actually join another 2900000 people have previously been displaced within the country itself. so we are dealing with a massive internal displacement situation inside afghanistan. that requires a crucial humanitarian support. many of those who have been forced to flee, they need shelter, they need health care, water, sanitation, basic assistance to enable them to set up and be able to best address their needs while they remain displaced. there is talk and lots of speculation about refugee flows across borders. but today we've really seen these in a much smaller scale and nothing compared to the magnitude of what's happening inside the country below. let me ask you,
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just how dire is the humanitarian situation on the ground in afghanistan right now? well, we definitely have a humanitarian crises in terms of people losing their livelihood. their business is, you know, over the last many months of the fighting, people have been displaced in some numbers to cobble. but it's also the fear in uncertainty that is prevalent among people, especially among those. a generation of ones will been working with western countries and international military's. so when you look at the car, they enter nationally or, or you look at the chaos, the side you'd be the heartbreaks. you know, that alone tells you how wonder can people remain in the absence of whole or are better and more peaceful of what a son. i was able to confirm that a big number of people are now moving out of the city and going back to their own
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villages and valleys and districts. these are population one, royal one is from the countryside who had fled the fighting either in the last month or in the last year or so at least this some hope there, but honest would need a lot to rebuild the destroyed and damaged countryside. when you talk about planning, roadside bombs from major highways, whether you talk about rebuilding the critical infrastructure, you know, bridges, other infrastructure that it's vital to everyday life. and i would also add that it is and it was just for the taliban to make a transition from a fighting force into governance. we have to really remember the taliban are no more the shadow government. they control most of the time. and they have brought in with them how themselves level soldiers were all known fighting and war and finance bands valley than hamlet's and the more parts of the country. and now
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here they are in cobble in a major urban center, a city of 6000000 people with high crime rate, pump to get his streets denied with an honest on, you know, is a country where i say, you know, the, let's see. factor is a month because every hour, every other day, things are changing. such a fast phase events are unfolding that it is hard to make sense of it easily. can mail. it seems like there is this narrative that is starting to take hold, that there will be this mass exodus of african refugees that are trying to get to europe. and it also seems like there are a lot of european politicians who are really in a panic about this right now. is there any evidence to support this contention? this idea that you are going to see a mass influx of afghans to europe, similar to what you saw in 2015 thanks. i think it's really too
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early to say. and as a reminder that you represent the chief, what we're seeing now on the ground is different. it's primarily the internal displacement. i think we should also remind ourselves that most refugees are likely to seek shelter in the closest country in iran pocket. they have is terrifically the road to europe is dangerous. and as we've seen in the past few days, they've been closure troubles at the border with turkey iran pocket. so i would be really careful on this figures on crossing night is for sure something that your again needs money. sure. and that they need to prepare for. they need to prepare an adequate response. and i think that's where, how we manage any potential crisis at your can border, can the difference. and i think we have this experience from to a 1516 that we've learned from and that we have non national iso image and fees. that of increase order operational capacity not to say this is perfect,
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that's far from the keys. reception in particular, remain a weak spot in the system. the will need to be addressed. but i think we need like, that's what the discussion should be about. can we my oldest scenario possible in the next few months? and i think below referred to the uncertainty of the middle class. most, many of them are in their home and date they're deciding what to do. and so you're going to prepare for different things that could happen in the next few months. all right, let's take a step back for a moment to delve into this particular question. are afghans really heading to europe, enlarge numbers? authorities and turkey said more than 27000 african migrants have been intercepted so far this year as they cross the border with iran. it's a route commonly used to smuggle afghans to europe. but only $3200.00 are estimated to have crossed. you borders in the 1st half of this year. that's a decrease in more than 40 percent compared to the previous year. if you're with a,
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when ya is increasingly being used as a route by african refugees, the government is accusing bella was pushing asylum seekers across the border. at least 85 percent of african refugees lived in countries that neighbor africana stan like iran and pakistan. shabby. let me ask you, you and hcr has released a non return advisory for afghanistan, calling for a bar on force returns of afghan nationals. what is the level of concern for those who might be forced to return? what could happened to them? well, in light of the unfolding, humanitarian emergency in the country and the protection issues and the concerns that we're seeing, the critical thing is that if people are trying to flee in search of safety and protection, borders should remain open to them. they must be able to access, access asylum and whether that is in neighboring countries or elsewhere. this is critical. refugees have a right to access asylum to seek safety to be protected. so this is our
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overwhelming concern. but the other issue is that if there are any considerations of returning or possibly returning of gone nationals back to us, gone on, we really urging against that in life of the situation and the protection risks and issues that they could face. and so we have issues this advisory basically asking, requesting, urging that be suspended at least until the security human rights and overall situation improved. but this is, this is one aspect. but the 2nd aspect is also ensuring that we are support the humanitarian response for the people inside have gone, john, for the people that are forcibly displaced and not require support for assistance programs, but also protection support and not really has to be sustained through. these are group of women concerns the, to the situation in the country and for those that are may have needs and may try to leave michelle, let me just follow up with you real quick. obviously another concern is going to be
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unhindered access for the you in you and hcr. other agencies, are you getting that unhindered access that you need right now? well, we've been present enough, gone on for decades as have many other humanitarian partners. and we've been responding to the needs on the ground. it's the people of us going to some those that have been affected by conflict that are displaced, that do we need our iris response and our support commitment is to be able to continue that. as of today we're still there, we are responding, we're working with partners. but obviously our assistance is predicated on having the guarantees of safety and security for our staff, for our partners, and also the access to local community. so based on the 2 key issues, and we are continually engaging and working to ensure that we have that access. but we out there on the ground since the beginning of the year, we've been able to do humanitarian assessments for full $100000.00 people. and i've gone on and also provide assistance to a quarter of
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a 1000000 people. so these programs and work is ongoing. and that's where our commitment is below shelby. i was talking about the concern for afghans who might be forced by other countries to return right now to afghanistan. let me ask you, how dangerous could it be for afghans who would be forced to come back to afghanistan right now? well, this is one of the dilemmas that like over the last many years, these western embassies, especially european embassies, what cobble of faith, which was simply not true. and until a week or so ago when the situation like really bought worse. and it was an imminent danger. and the wrong problem, city that the patient stop, i would say i want to son is not safe. one of them is not a country where people see a whole future, especially economically or get about, you know, the security for a minute. since what has happened over the last few days of taken over the entire country. and it is that, you know,
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a denial on the part of these countries really recognize the problem situation at the same time. there's a lot of politics involved in this as well. you have gotten government at the time under mister asher. why me? i continued lashing out these refugees, very publicly saying that they had broken the social contract that the situation was good to hear. and he was very supportive of such support ations because he thought that would strengthen his position with european countries in terms of funding. but the harsh reality, you know, is that if these people do come back, you know, they, and they don't see any economic future here. be. this is a country where, you know, grievances and range and retributions. you've another vintage district level, you know, put costs your life. so, you know, i'm very sympathetic to people who are left for a better life when the country is simply not saved and the environment is not
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conducive. and i think the politics of government, especially here, really undermine that, that you know, basic human rights for those are one specially on very, very vulnerable communities. camille, i saw you nodding along to some of the below was saying there. so i want to see if you want to jump in, but i also want to ask you from your vantage point, how are evacuations going for afghans who worked for europe and organizations and who had been targeted by the taliban? yes, some. so maybe to point on best. the 1st one is the african government asked for a moratorium on deportation for 3 months. and we had this letter on the 5th of august from 6 human buffeted, asking the european commission to engage in discussion with capital to continue to continue this return. so here i think i still, i say it's highly pulse go. it's been both sides by certain you remember state,
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and it's been a bit of a concerning some of whether european government can reach common front on this question. be it from region to up on the stone, but also the response to the crisis more broadly. and so that's, that's what the return us for the buy creation. so several countries are trying to evaporate up, going to the risk this involved often who worked a translator for your kin for him, for days who worked for a job for embassies, several countries of all. i've also said that they would open it to other african at risk of being individually targeted be big journalist, artist, other activists. but selecting people has been extremely challenging in the past days. and even the one who get on a list to be created based obstacles, you go to the airport, even high quality creation you. and then they're the one who are not in capital who are in the provinces. and i'm concerned that these people are not going to be able
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to be evacuated at least not in the next week or below. you know, camille just mentioned something very interesting point, which is the fact that even those who may have been clear to be evacuated or, or get visas, it's very difficult for many of them to actually get to the city to get to the airport. correct. i mean, this is, this is very dangerous terrain for them, right? i've been speaking to a number of people here in cobble and in few other cities. this is exactly the concern. the journey is not, you know, less than 152030 minutes for many directions in the city problem, especially these days that you don't have the use of traffic down. it is the security is the taliban checkpoint, leading up to the airport. it is the massive crowd of hundreds of people united states risk of p, for example, killing a young doctor for a family. it is the risk of being thought that by the american forces and by the
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former one intelligence service special forces. busy unit that is now working with the americans to secure the parameters there. so it is indeed a heartbreaking reality. it's friday and i would say, you know, it is, you know, a chain of events for 4 or 5 days which has continued to result in the dead, an injury of, of, on. but it's also tortured. you might, you know, i want people of families, the rest of the world is just simply shop when you see that i ones are playing on us air force play and then fell. i don't know where they manage to hide themselves . but as the plane was taking love, you know, there are objects that were 1st, luggage later on. i witnesses accounts and i feel about those were human beings instantly getting killed. i think this mission started at the 11th hour and to get
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out 121-5000 american citizens along to the airport would be a massive challenge. you know, forget about the generation of 5 was working with the americans, with european countries. there are different resettlement schemes and plans. this is also one times more capital generation is the most educated generation is the most invested generation of ones you know, who are going to be varying their dreams and aspirations. they're forced to leave. and now this reputation and fear, although the taliban as continuously said publicly that they do not engage in retribution and target killing, given fester, showing, but some human rights activists that i've been speaking to of call for. what do you say should be a humanitarian part of a proper process under which these people can safely be evacuated? and they said,
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artificial timelines. you know what this evacuation plan is also sending software because when i was here that in the weeks time you know this will be all. busy in 4 weeks time, it's scary, isn't it? what is next? we have been abandoned. we've been betrayed by our allies. and we have been badly bad in the form of government when the president abruptly fled the country shall be. i've heard you and many of your colleagues on several occasions express deep concern for women and girls, and i've counted them because of the situation and the impact that it has had on them. let me ask you what kind of trauma have they faced? have they been through what kind of toll is this taking on that population? well, we're famous here, but the majority of those who have been forced to flee the harms, they are women and children. we have statistics showing that 80 percent of those that were just placed in recent weeks. they were women and children services. this
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is a huge humanitarian concern. when you have so many, especially children, i think they comprise perhaps 60 percent of those who have been displaced. and so the real consent to making sure that we can meet their needs. and many of them may have health needs that may, that may need to be taken care of, may have gone through traumatic situations or, or have trauma needs that need urgent attention. and then there are obviously, although the dynamics things have changed so rapidly, we are trying to keep track on developments. but obviously overwhelming concern is for the situation of people affected by, by the situation and for women and children. and to make sure that they, they have their, their basic needs met, that they are protected there. obviously lots of human rights concerns and considerations. so that's why it's really important for humanitarian actors who are on the ground to, to stay there, to engage, to advocate for these protections and for these fund
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a mental right. and that's why the evacuation just one part of the response. now we're not involved with those evacuations. they are arrangements that are organized between the governments of the countries concerned and the people of scott done, but they are not arrangements that involve us. we are a refugee and humanitarian agency, but we are there. and we also have the same question that evaluation is going to benefit a limited number of people, but they can't over shudder and they are not a substitute for the rest of the humanitarian response. so that's why it's crucial that we need support for the humanitarian situation in the country to respond and to be able to help the africans who, who all bear and don't have the luxury or liberty or the opportunity to be able to, to take that protection elsewhere. so that, that's why or to goal to be able to respond to both needs on the ground. camille, agencies, the you in other groups are trying to raise funds through the international community to help africana stan at such
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a critical time. we know that at this stage they are hundreds of millions of dollars short of where they need to be. let me ask you, when it comes to the humanitarian response going forward, how much support do you expect may come from the i mean the, you just release a statement today committing to support, you know, the human response gone. i don't how much is still i think a bit of a question on yeah for everyone but, but if i can, i would want to compliment that because i also think as we are planning to monitor and response, which is obviously the top priority there also need to be some thinking about the mall, longer term response. and this is something that jumps of america referred to actually in the past few days that, you know, one think that one mistake that was made in the, in the responses to in crisis would not provide sufficient support to the country and hosting the majority of syrian refugees,
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and we know that people flying up to date will not return anytime soon. this is a less than, you know, from the past crisis. it's christ that protect protracted, people can stay in the self decatur and so we need to plan with p t with national authorities in country like project than any route. so that these community that hold them if that are also vulnerable can receive the form of assistance. and, and i think here, for instance, you and i share packets been in july, i was reporting that only half of their, you know, military and appeal i had being addressed. and so that's also something that we need to think about moving forward. all right, well we have run out of time, so we're going to have to leave the conversation there today. thank you so much. all of our guest ballasa worry, shall be amman, too. and camille, the cause and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website al jazeera dot com, and for further discussion, go to our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash ha. inside story. you can
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