economically, by the shut down, people we spoke to agreed that the city still has some way to go to get back to its former glory. they're still closing down a lot of the restaurants by 10 o'clock pm, so that you know, the city that never sleeps doesn't sleep at 10 o'clock. and i said, i don't think you're going to ever go back to what it was, but it is become a new york. we're always modifying a really library. it may not be fully back yet, but this city can count on its hardest to put the whole world in a new york state of mind. kristen salumi al jazeera new york. ah. this is al jazeera and these all the headlines. the taliban co founder has arrived in afghanistan capital for told to form a new government's will of july. gandhi brother led the groups negotiations in doha . the taliban says the future governments will be inclusive. charlotte bellis have

more from cobble. we know that he is meeting with religious scholars. he's meeting with tele, bond commanders, even meeting with form of government leaders and the telephone have been doing this a week. and assa connie, who's in the political commission, you met with the former ceo de la jolla. you'll submit with former president holman, cause i so the telephone interview saying that they want an integrated political resolution to this to fold these people and they, they are reaching out. but it's unclear as to what the product will look like. i'm told that they don't have a deadline as to when they want to have this will result 5, but they told me they work in quickly. mill, tens of thousands of people are still trying to get ice enough. galveston, 6 days after the taliban to cobble at least 12 people have been killed in under the airports. the us president for number could be for the loss of life. hey, his government is facing growing criticism as it struggles to get a 2 survivors of

a powerful earthquake. a week ago, there were desperate scenes in the hot city of k, as people scrambled for supplies many and we were larry as the waiting for help. hundreds of people have been arrested in australia after anti locked and protest turn violence. it came on the same day. health authorities reported a record 900 new corporate infections, most of them in sydney. the health minister denies the rallies as selfish catholics in sir lanka, putting up black flags to demand justice for the victims of 2019 easter bombings. many are angry over what they call the government incompletes investigation into the attacks that kills more than 260 people. and that's you up to date, stay, stay with us here on our to 0. the stream is up next. how

many nukes has too many new america has in many ways driven the arms parties are much more like the british parties. now there are fewer regulation to own a tiger than there are to own a dog. how can this be happening? you know, we take on us politics and, and that's the bottom line. ah, hi, i'm rachelle carrie filling in for me. ok, welcome to the bonus edition of the stream. we'll retake you behind the scenes of our broadcast this week. a special feature on afghanistan will take you back in time to some of the conversations that were happening before this week. 2019 and discussion with some of afghanistan's leading female politicians and activists about women's rights as the u. s. let's negotiating a peace agreement with the taliban all the way up until this week when the taliban over through the government. first, let's revisit an interview from spring 2021. when the stream covered the precarious

situation of the more than 300000 and ask and who have worked for the us government since 2001 over the years and many received special immigrant thesis. but before the events of the past week, petitioners were facing delays and experts were predicting a crisis mad seller whose life was saved bye as ask an interpreter back in 2008 during the stream in april. to sound the alarm on the immediate need to evacuate as many people as possible. we last doors, iraq and afghanistan in terms of being able to achieve the objectives that we started out to achieve, right. and afghan. it was to leave behind the country that was absent of the taliban. they survived. they let us, they outlasted us, and they're going to likely inherit an afghanistan after we depart. the reality that is that the people who befriended us, the people who partnered with us are going to be murdered by the very people that we ask them to help fight against if we don't do something right now to evacuate them. the way that i describe it is there is

a train crash coming. we all can see it. the train is about to derail off of the tracks. is going to hit the village. we can't save the people on the train, they're likely going to die, but we might be able to evacuate the village if we start right now. and that's what q and i have done. we've written report to help the by the ministration begin. the immediate evacuation of our afghan war time allies from afghanistan starting today to begin the processing of these individuals to get to the united states and if necessary to move them to another part of the world outside of the united states where they can reside there until we can figure out their visa situation because the reality is when collapse comes in afghanistan, it is likely going to happen faster than washington can react to it. and these people will be our last priority when it comes time to evacuate. the words are to the atkins in the rockies watching this. can never be american to say this all. i'm

sorry. we let you down. we're letting you down right now, but please know some of us haven't forgotten you and are going to keep fighting until we get all of you home to safety. i mean, this is, that's, i wish the bite and ministration would would do the right thing here. they've got all the right people in place to actually enact the right policies. they just need to have the courage and conviction to do the right thing. positive bite and can call me anytime. and i will show up and call to whatever i have to do to help them get this going. we can't wait, we can't wait. we need our congressional representatives to hear this. we need american citizens to call their congressional representatives and make them aware of this problem. we need immediate action without delay. my urgency, i cannot hear it, but i'm not actually seeing it on the ground. yeah,

no, it's not happening on the ground. so what needs to happen is this, we, our report. thankfully, is getting some of the wonderful folks at the truman national security project and veterans for american ideals over at human rights. first our can help us try and get it to the right folks in government and maybe see if we can't get inactive and get it into into place. the reality of this, we've done accusation like this, not twice. we did it in 975. we took 800000 vietnamese, they happened to be on boats, but we brought them to guam. and then they spent a couple of months in guam while we processed their visas and moved them to the united states in 1996, be airlifted thousands of kurdish fighters out of northern iraq as saddam's army. bear down on them because they had assisted us during the 1st gulf war. we moved them to guam where they lived for another 6 months until we process their visas and got him here. we need to begin that airlift now in afghanistan,

and we need to reconstitute program for our rocky allies. we've betrayed them and we need to figure out a way to get them to safety. american friendships should not me to death. and i'm going to say that over and over and over again, because that's how i was raised. we're supposed to depot the people who keep their word and do the right thing. that's what i believed when i joined to serve my country and i'm going to fight to ensure that my country lives up to that ideal. a reminder. and that conversation was more than 4 months ago falling a taliban take over this week. thousands of afghans who work for the us government over the past 2 decades have been left stranded. another group of afghans who safety is now in peril. are women with the return of the taliban? many believe that the hard fought gains for women over the past 20 years are now being completely railed. but on tuesday, in their 1st press conference, it's how they and spokesperson said, women would be active in society within the framework of char. yep. the world will be watching now in 2019 discussed how far women's rights had advanced in

afghanistan have listened to what are guessed. high profile women representing both the afghan government and women's rights initiative had to say. from my view, i would say something to you very clearly to the women have to understand and to the women around the work made or thinking we are slowly going and taking a day or job clock patients additions power. and there's a fair enough garnish done among men. it doesn't matter. their main government or county bon side or driving like they don't like. this is what time talking from my own experience. but when it comes to women, empowerment, and despite of the women are educated or not, they are living on their city or villages. they are capital and they

have enough power to raise what exactly they want. i don't like any circle to be wall by anyone to do women to say ok guys, we can go and you can just be in education or you can work. know who they are that they like to troll for the circle or frame. what should i do and what i should think i'm seeking for equality, men and women. according to the law. i would like the constitution as i had the owner to draft the constitution, and i know how hard a i travel more than 16, proven myself. before village, but did message was exactly the same, different language, different sentence, but at the end, would you say meaning a peaceful long term doesn't mean that one political coup or another political

group will leave the country. he's full of me, respect and implement the justice. i want to actually bring the attention that why are we asking for inclusion, be human rights argument is divide till one that we are half of the population. so what is the question of us being left a type, but it's about like, what do we bring to the table? having been, i behind the council, i, my experience shows that every time that we brought in, you know, the political leaders, the factions, the warlord, we women talked about what happened to that school which was bumped, which is called, what happened to the clinic. that is not being used by the community. why people are not being able to get any access to the local government. why don't we have an attorney general's office in this province? in there has been time that i've been told that, you know, the,

you women are still problematic because you bring the whole problem of the community. i never ask for my own right. that i want to be the minister of this and i want to be the minister of that. know, i keep bringing the issues of the community in bio and inclusion. we have actually opened a door for other minority. you know, it didn't, but the reason i'm full concerned about is that i don't want us to be another civil war. the want to some conflict you said started from 2000 once a 17 year. but it's, i hold as myself, it's actually going to be 40 years of conflict. we have had the warlord going to saudi arabia. and i remember vividly finding actually putting their hands on the holy book on or on saying that we will get together the moment they came because this there was no reconciliation. it fell apart. so what i'm worried about is that holidays are b, u. s. negotiate sex is talking with these, you know,

tell me had taught one leaders sitting in the 5 star hotels. but then when they come back to up on a sunday, find out the whole new structure. you know, you have all of these young come back and fighting on the ground. you have a new generation, any penny. if somebody was 20 years of age and they're the parlor bond, now that person is actually turkey. 8th, he has gone to school. he has gone to university, he has a social media axis and he has a voice. the same goes to the young women. so the parliament are going to actually face a whole new kind of treat which they are not ready to accept. and then this is what i'm more interested to bring in. it's not just about women that because i'm a woman, i'm only talking about women know either as a part of the society. i want to know what happens to be this armament. we have so many armed men in this fighting and to talk about would be an addition to that.

like how, how do we do disarmament? what happens to the reconciliation? we have a lot of, you know, national grievances, how do we get along with each other? so we're not really let me just talk to this because you're listening with some really important issues that you would like to be discuss. i'm just looking here at out 0 dot com u. s. taliban talks resuming. do, after to day break, you can see the may comp here of people at the discussion table. are you telling me that those issues that you said of so important to the community? are they not being discussed? we are not at the paper and when we are in that 5 star hotel menu that they have all to the east and also, you know, do we are not being deal. nobody is talking about the end of bloodshed. we had 10 pow, did 2000000000 casualties in this just 2018. we have 45000 of our thumb. this forces off of on a song who have been and you know, a victim of this war. we have given so much all sacrifice in this war and at the

end of the day it's the us and the problem on who have been living and could talk in behind the market. and they don't know what, what kind of on a son they are actually going to see after 20 year boston road. they're speaking to us more than 2 years ago. she is now living in exile because of death threats from the taliban. and our twitter account has been taken down. finally, let's talk about the town ban takeover. recently on the stream i spoke with pushed on it dirani and threat bruin about the us control. and the chaos had a sense ensued. after the show, we continue the conversation and i asked them to respond to an opinion submitted to the show by the former us deputy ambassador to afghanistan. have a listen. can there be an effective relationship with the new government, the new talent government, and to get agreement with partners and rivals around the world as to what basic commitments should be made by the taliban government?

if they want to be recognized with others, if they want to have international assistance, financial assistance in the, in the very short term and development systems going forward. and they're very much going to need that. the previous government was dependent on the international community for 80 percent of its funding. so this is an important need of a new government. so brett, if, if what the master thing is right, that the taliban and means things from, from the international community. if they're going to make this work, it's not about whether or not they have a change of heart that's really irrelevant. but it just for just just from a matter of legit, practicality, what i'm trying to say that they need to behave a certain way to get certain things from international community. does that ring true to you? well, you know, i know investor wayne very well, lot of respects for him, but i would respectfully disagree. the tele bon survived for several

years without any international recognition. and he international aid. i think we're seeing this through a western lens in order to have legitimacy. you know, order to operate like we would consider a normal government to function. they're going to need all of our programs. i don't know that that's their calculus. and at the end of the day, they're going to make judgements based on what's in the interest of their own survival. and all of this a perhaps with the exception of china, which is another issue we can get into comes with a lot of strains. and so they are going to shoot those kinds of constrains, and i would expect that countries like china, even russia, are going to provide them with enough aid to be able to survive and stay in power. it's an interesting point that you made brush on. a lot of times we do think and see thing through a western lens. i'll admit, as a journalist, sometimes i,

i will by default position is to ask a question from a western perspective. but what bread is saying is that the taliban isn't thinking like that the. he's right about that nice. you know, you have to understand back to it and the group is pretty much not back. they grew up with a one that could have been living within the and that could be literally financed by china to show whatever country is coming. like, you know, to get the food, but then it's the people who are a dependent and who would be abandoned the want to be having any service delivery be want be having any, like, you know, educational access or like, you know, healthcare access, all these things matter and that, that even that 80 percent of that eighty's needed for, right. even if it went into the corrupt pockets of the leader that we had in the past. but right now we need that each for the civilians, not the taliban. right. and the taliban is a small group and the can do finance of china or whatever country you take. you

have to understand that from this perspective, civilians are going to have or not them by, at the same time, the needle, as you can see, the need ricky commission, right back. all these countries can pressure on them to recognize all these, right? except the 50 percent off on us, except that all the civilians asked on the sense and then moving forward, we can see that ok, maybe we forward and push on. i'm curious. your reaction to president joe biden saying, basically that the, the ask and army didn't want to fight what's, what's your take on that babylon that me was asked to stand by the one that i was told to stand by. and they were not to fight, not to engage because said it is it that the steel has been like, you know, has been a pc and they couldn't be fighting. go on kick that account, ask them be they would tell you this. saying this. coming this from

a one leader. i would expect this on the taliban butner from job. right. and if you think it's not something that she should be seen because he listed in back to me, the people invested in that me all your text years, all there, 6 years need for that on me. and now you think the for the fight, they wanted to fight. they were asked to stand by because it is a b. c. brett, i would point to the $60000.00 con soldiers that gave their lives and tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands who were injured in the line of duty. so questioning the bravery, questioning the will to fight, i think, is quite frankly, a dishonorable thing for the president to do. and clearly the white house, the administration are looking for who can we point the finger at? i think it is really frustrating for those of us who worked in those holes in the

situation room to watch an administration that refuses to acknowledge the errors. fine. we all understand joe biden wanted out of afghanistan, but there are, there are ways of doing it that don't create this kind of chaos, these kinds of consequences that have just been catastrophic. i think, let me ask you the same question. sure question though, i just want to a clear yes or no. are you saying that the u. s. should remain in afghanistan? i obviously that's off the table. but is that what you're saying should have happened that the us should not be withdrawing. right, right 1st and then, but i'm sorry, pressed on a bus on a go for it. tell me what do you think? i don't think you are seeing would make any difference or seeing and be right. and it's not like the word to come in and fight again and all that. let's look at practical solution practical solution right now at the moment is legitimacy for the government. as the taliban government that could be done without us seeing that

this could also have been where everyone, every young person wants to run by the fact that they're going to kill incidence. that's going to cut it out, right. it won't be mean to doesn't the 1st place to kill, right? so you have to understand the narrative that people have a more boost every time they are. we will be attacking those be, but i can show you the messages that i just got, where they have said that people work with the us. let's burn them. i live next, burn their houses. i lie, right? this is the many back. people go away, right? you have to understand you are thing was not a solution us, they could mazing, the taliban leveraging data. a so many to measure kim. i think that the audience that was the problem and now we can pressure them into not have using the p but all right, bret, i completely agree and i would just say that the us should have done this differently. we should have insured,

and i've worked on political transitions across africa, ivory coast, liberia. any where we handle this a heck of a lot better. there's a way of doing this. it least would have given the african a military, the african government, a fighting chance. but you know, we quite literally, from one day to the next, abandon back room air base didn't even bother to leave the lights on or the generator they are. i mean, this was a reckless retreat. it is one that will go down in the street as a case study and what about those and say, and then you know, i'm obviously not a foreign policy expert. but what about those who said there was no easy way to do this? because if you tip your hand that you're leaving, then that will, there is no way to not trigger chaos. what do you say to that? what i think we have plenty of examples of where we have, we have withdrawn and chaos at least chaos on this scale. has not been suit

so the bite administration is trying to spin it, saying, you know, with a choice between a or b know there were plenty of options in between. i wrote it piece usa to day this week, suggesting that bite in he's a fire, he's a national security advisor, re form the national curity process because it has found him and he's tell them not just on this issue on several the refugee issue, the border issue dealings with cuba in israel. what we need to address going forward here is how are we going to contain some of the accesses of the taliban? and that is what i think the international community and especially the american administration, needs to look at. we need to look at how do we leverage air power? how do we leverage a military presence, perhaps an ongoing military presence on that airfield cobble to ensure that we are still relevant that the taliban feels our presence and feels the potential consequences. if they choose to go down the path where they were before,

that's right. back to the people right now who want to leave afghanistan and push on. you made a really good point. everybody doesn't necessarily want to leave afghanistan. everybody shouldn't have to leave their home. but there are thousands of people that do want to leave. i want to play something from a fellow from the truman center for national policy, camille, math, we're talking about the fact that there are still efforts being made to get people out of afghanistan. let's listen to that. what afghans need to know is that right now we haven't given up here in the united states. we are still fighting to push the bite in ministration as we have been for the last several months, post them to actuate as many people as possible and to honor our promise to have many africans as possible who worked and fight alongside us for the last 20 years and when they do arrive here in the united states, we're working hard with our resettlement agencies to make sure that they have the resources that they need because they were really depleted during the previous administration. and we're working hard to make sure that they have the resources

that they will need to ensure a welcome and to have all of our allies start their new lives here in the u. s. when they get here. thank you. michelle. what is the calculation that somebody has to make to leave their country to go to a place they don't know where there's people, they don't know what. how do you decide to do that? i mean, like for once, let's say that let's get the fact where you have to make that calculation because all you know you've been coming for them and they're taking that rick off leaving right and be like clean beat for tv. it can be anything that's running from the running the fact that the administration clean fun to do so much to get their people out there only trying to get people out of cobble their 30

c other for once this year. a lot of people in the school, in this work with institution who have been us, her life. what about those people? where do they go? how to be free, right? all those questions are still in place and there is no answer for that. it's just and in a loses program for people in college who could access the ad on thursday, but all the 34 inches they are still bending. people cannot be people cannot reach the airport. and at the same time, you have to understand that the calculation of leaving and then at the same time, the practical practicality of getting on back to this thing. and they're not happening at the moment. a dire situation for many afghans hoping to flee the country up canister as a story we will continue to watch closely and the coming weeks. that is our show for today. thanks for watching. see you next time. ah.

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current events with diverse coaches and conflicting politics. ah, when he's on out there of the city of cobble, his experience so much evil for decades, and this is another change to get used to. and one that's far from easy situation. for now, it's not clear. the people are just lost and confused. there are deep rooted fears about the erosion of basic price in particular for women and girls. despite assurances from the taliban and about returns true punishments for certain crimes. everybody will be safe, nobody's kid will be kidnapped again to rental. now together, that feeling that way forward into the new reality.

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