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ruins and moses flores cover the sea bed, while statues 10 meters below the water surface. daughter slowly by a few more even now these towns move a few millimeters every year. at the moment we are in the standing phase in which all remains are slowly emerging. but they will never fully emerge from the depth at which the higher coastal strip is submerged. access to this ancient gem is only available to those who protect it. and the few who prefer to dive into the world's history books. julian wolf, al jazeera. ah, exactly half past the hour. these are your top stories from al jazeera. thousands of people in afghanistan are still struggling to get out. the u. k. military says 7 people have been crushed to death,
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accomplish ports. as describing the conditions there as coats, extremely challenging. rub, mcbride has more from cobble that still seems to be the same levels of k us at the, the, for this very difficult to see just what the end to this is going to be. it's still wrong by people outside the for many of them saying that they have legitimate documents. they are eligible to get on in a vacuum issue. flight. but just trying to process those people amongst all the chaos and trying to see how they're going to get on flight through the gate. through the taliban checkpoint, it's very difficult. and then of course, there are hundreds, if not thousands of other people really just trying their luck. just going to the apple staggered the both on the off chance that they might might get something is really strikes of, again pounded the proceeds, gaza strip security forces. they hammer sites were targeted overnight. they include weapons, storage, and manufacturing locations. israel has deployed more troops to the gossip or
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defense area. well, the latest is really escalation for us cross border gunfire earlier on saturday, at least 41 palestinians and israelis soldier were injured during the protest near the border, 13 year old palestinian boy was shot in the head and is now critically injured. when we con from macy's devastating earthquakes of i was a facing, severe shortages laid and shelter, the government spacing, growing condemnation of its response to the disaster. more than 2000 people were killed. the rear hurricane is approaching the northeast coast of the united states . henri will be the 1st hurricane to make landfall in the regions 30 years. it's expected to hit long island new york state. later on sunday. another hurricane called grace has killed at least 8 people along mexico's east coast is one of the most powerful storms to the area in ears. up next here on out to 0, talk to al jazeera. we'll have more news for you from the news from when we come back in a little under 30 minutes of either the
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international conflicts have for hundreds of thousands of people to flee the homelands over centuries, forming migration would that shape today's global diplomatic policies. with widespread conflict across the middle east, many people risk all they have to get to europe seeking safety and a better future by sea and by land. and although the most common route to europe is across the mediterranean sea, a new one appears to be opening to the border between battles and it extends from the baltic states of latvia and lithuania to poland, brussels as accused of russian president alexander shanker, of attempting to destabilize the block with a hybrid war using migrants as a weapon. i'm sorry, and then vilnius modern 4000 might have entered this away from ballard. so far this year, i'm footage recently released by the way the board got services
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a family show, a migrant. i've been forced into the country by bella, security forces, you officials, hotels, emergency talk to discuss and integrated with funds. while the current, we have to clear an emergency of travel through the way the and capital to see what lies ahead, diplomatically and also at a humanitarian level, this away the prime minister in good aid us, you will need to talk to al jazeera, a miscellaneous, a prime minister include him on need to thank you so much for talking to 0. thank you for holding your call. hi, with war with barrels, people from iraq, from different countries being sent deliberately to the border of your country. how is this organized who is behind it? and what is the role of president alexander lucas shank in this? first of all, they invite to be alerts, and we've seen the attempt of lucas angle regime to
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get more routes that would fly over to misc we, we hear about negotiations with countries, for example, like pakistan and others opening gulf of, of new new new roots. we know that the travel agencies that are close to regime because whole sort of business is close to regime in that country are also part of it. and when we see on the bill, ocean propaganda, the military guy commencing the option of opening up of belarus as a tourist destination. these the sounds a little bit, we're not mentioning the people, the uniform people that we physically see at our borders. also in this attempt of people from iraq or other countries, what time to to, to cross the border. are you convinced that alex on the look shanker and russian
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officials are personally involved? he simply declared that, that he will flood european union of a quote with drugs and my france, and that was his threat. so of course you have to take all the worth of lucas shank with a doze off. critical thinking, but when he did that threat, right? yeah. do you believe that he was actually going to do it while you can never rule out anything? he's saying, given that we already seen the number of illegal migrants, highest income person to, to last year. and there was a video that i think was widely seen also on, on different media resources were actually uniform. people in the riot police uniform were trying to push people into the country. and as a matter of fact,
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they themselves have crossed the border and they themselves can committed criminal offense on and our criminal code. this is not just the game of lucas shank or his black male on european union trying to press european union to sort of lift up the sanction really hearty his regime. but there is more to this because in less time of the year, a little bit later, but the preparations are ongoing. there is a military exercise. we're b l, a russian russian army esop, dissipating it up. yes. and this is not the 1st time this is happening and every time this is happening, we are at high level of alert because we know a lot for some countries. unfortunately, the borders are conditional thing. and we've seen the proof to that in 2008 and soccer level, or in 2014 and in ukraine you say in this way now is alert. in what way are you
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prepared for an incident, the military aggression, anything that you just mentioned, that's something that it's not only for us, but also for our international partners. and we are in very close and day to day cooperation on, on the situation. so are there for example reinforcement from natal at the moment in lithuania to prevent possible? well, i don't think that i can't speak about the details but, but i know that we are on a very close cooperation with, with our partners on day to day business. and of course everybody's watching about closely. we have people who are already present here and this level of inflammation or alertness of, of our partners. i think it's at the, at, at the right level, you really stood up for the opposition and bella, luce, right? you have actually given protection to a position lead to atlanta taking the sky. you have stood up also for the human
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rights violations against human rights violations happening in bellows. how far is lithuania willing to go to, to take it to keep that position? because it's costing you a lot at the, at the same time, right? migrants coming into the country, you have to deal with more than 4000 people at the moment. sanctions, bella was of course, was also an important partner trading part for the the way, the yeah. so how far can this pressure go until you know, you can go any further? well, i think that i've had the puzzling when, when people say that we are supportive to be original position, i would claim that that's location who is opposition to his own nation. and in this case, very much doubt that there is any majority behind. look a shank anymore because similar things happened 10 years ago or 15 years ago and it was
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a habit of lucas shank or to deal some people then trade them for some benefits and that's how he kept going. but i think after 2020 there is a certain point of no return and this not live unions position. i mean if union is in the position, definitely, and we are strong advocates office position about this position of european union. and there was no disagreement in the block, but your next door, you're right physically, we are next door. yes. but the same arguments held where there was a debate about russia imposing sanctions. i would say on its own people, off to crimea where europe and union imposed sanctions and, and russia and both factions that made foot more expensive or some, some products that usually came from european union, unaccessible for, for, for russian people. so this was not the faction against european union, but entrance against against the russian people. but still there were impacts on,
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on the trades that we had a big part of re export because the geographically we close, the big part of free export went to, to russia. there was a decent share of agricultural production that went to russia and as we had to pay this, is that too expensive for us? but, you know, when you deal with the markets that are no rule of law, countries that are not stable regimes where you can be sure that your rights will be protected. that there is a court system that the functioning about. the private property is respected, then you might get higher returns. but the risks that you have usually much higher than in this boring huron, where, where we recommend our, our, our businesses and our, our companies to put preference. so there is still some business interest, but people should know that they, they come with high risk. but why do you do it? why? why have you stood up so, so strongly against what's happening and bellows?
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is it, is it, is it a human rights issue for you democracy issue, or is it also security issues? we know that when you have no rule of law just behind your borders, it's always a danger for, for your own interest. so that's why we've been vocals for eastern partnership for so many years. we think that we are a good, a good model to watch that actually you can free the country and that soviet type of economy where everything is under a central planning. and as it looks like a big, you know, a big crew sort of mechanical thing. but within it, you see that while income in the baltic, countries are increasing by 20 percent in 5 years. do have a decrease of real income in bella. risk of 20 percent doing the same time you are on the front line. right? yes. you can only do this little wading. is tiffany small country. you can only do
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this if you have the backing the full backing of the european union. and you have that european union at took very reasonable towns and very reasonable negotiations position, for example, with iraq, which is very important because all arguments so to say in front of countries of origin somewhat limit that may be but you repeat, union has quite strong arguments when it deals with the country, so what you mean is that there was a context with iraq, right? to prevent direct flights from back to 2 minutes to continue. so people couldn't so easily go to bed as before. it's not just about their flights and limitation of flights because i don't know how the government was about how the people are being used for the goals that have nothing to do with the welfare of those people. at this situation they had just used as an instruments for very evil
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intentions that this about this spinal question question. let's talk about the people. right. so we've also met them in several camps. of course. yeah. lithuania, small country not really prepared. right for more than 4000 people arriving. so the situations are quite difficult for them. people have told us, like we escape a prison like they described a situation in northern iraq as living in a prison. now we're here in a prison as well. how is this possible? we are in europe and we're locked up. how are you going to deal with all these people and the human? it's very neat. it's not that this country has a very big problem to accommodate 4000 people know. but because during the be on the russian crisis after the election force in august, i don't know a couple of 1000 people came here. some may be crossing the border illegally like the people some special who mentor in these us. and it's not the problem for this
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country, whatever small it is to, to host $4000.00 people. the problem is that we were never on the whatever route of migration. so the cases that were happening on our border were either easily manageable for us, or they were manageable at the, at the border health. now we have a different situation when people from different countries, the rocky wrong african countries will study in minutes. and all of a sudden decided that they may be, might also try to, to cross the border. decided to come here. but they know they are doing this illegally. i mean, they know they are doing this illegally. yes. the research technical. they didn't because they said we got these are immense and they were promised that it was easy them to knock men. so this is not b, l no, but the people were not well informed about, well,
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and i think they were not well informed intentionally because as a matter of fact, they were misinformed. but if you say we can actually handle more than 4000 people, why are they in such a dire situation than right now? well, the problem is that the river procedure that you need to undergo, even if you want to reach less than the highland and from what i can guess, there will be a limited number of people who will actually be able to ground their, their request of political asylum because they, they can be persecuted for political views or some, some, some other activities. and most of people most probably are coming because they just want to live in, in a different country, most probably somewhere in the and western union. so this is not the ground for, for asylum, but they're out of course procedures that we need to undergo one will be undergoing . yes, the reset logistical issue that we need to host people somewhere until their,
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their requests are being processed. think they're being treated in a proper unitarian way. we know that there are all sorts of problems because nobody was prepared to have a big number of people with kids, of different health conditions, not speaking a language that we can speak. and there are all sorts of problems that come from it . but we, we are trying to move as soon as we can s s as move as we can in trying to make those conditions better. there are so many people who live in, in the border crossing points. we are trying to read as many houses modal houses as we can to sort of put people in a better situation. we have a special center in, in our country. and y'all, nevada, that deals with people who are already on the integration programs and they know how to teach the kids. they know how to treat the families they,
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they have this experience, but they do not have a capacity to locate them. so we're increasing the capacity and as soon as we do it in a couple of weeks, we will shift people from, from the places where they are. we are trying to arrange interpreters because the very big problem is that people are, we have no documents. so we need to identify them to sort of register them to know who they are, what are their special features and what we can do about it. but at the same time, the government has decided to not let anyone enter anymore right at the moment since the beginning of august, people have been pushed back. more than 1000 people have been sent back from the border. what is the legal base for this? because lithuania has also adopted the un convention for refugees. so the red cross and other international organizations are worried that you'll violating this international agreement. well, i know that made, but there are so many international obligations that our country is trying to
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fulfill. and one of the obligations is to guard the eastern border of europe in union and the change in agreement and also the support people's human right. yes, but then we need to, to see what is the proper way to do this. there is a convention about a human ride, but discontent convention does not say that anyone can cross whatever border at any point of time because they will to do so. if you think that you have a ground to appeal for asylum, then there are legal ways of loading the document against the union government in a border crossing point. and also now at the embassies and belarus, is not a country that i would deem to be unsafe. for iraqi people who are coming, they are with these us for terrific purposes. i understand what you mean, but at the moment people are being pushed back. the battle russians are not letting them back in. they're pushing them back again. so people are basically locked up in
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the middle between the 2 countries. warning shots are being fired that were fleer being hurt by the valuation of facial. i wouldn't call that a safe situation to send people into, well yes, but we also need to ensure that this does not open up new ways and means for lucas shank or to invent call. they can press on our country more than these people are victims of a political situation that they have no understanding of, but they're still human beings, right? yes, this is something i agree with, but there are border crossing points. well, legally you can present your asylum case, because if this is like, you know, nobody, nobody's guarding the border. so then we are just administrating whatever number of people are coming here illegally. and i must stress that. and i think be the big problem is that people are in be legally in contrast to what is happening here.
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they are legal, they have please of the documents that some of them decided to abandon because they were recommended to do so. but this is a very delicate situation. what i'm struggling to understand is the double standard is in a way bell of ocean people who have been fleeing the country are most welcome here . right? to accept them here. the people who are coming from iraq and other countries, maybe even also from afghanistan, are being sent back in this, into a situation into a country that you already have described as being unsafe. so it's a double kind of treatment. well, i would say that b, r is unsafe country for viola, children list, civil society activists. and of the people who have a descending opinion from the regime. this, i say is safe country. but take those people who come to be us on their own will. they buy a visa, the by
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a trip and the well as far as they come, they asked us as their sort of major intention. the, i don't think there is a major safety concern. and this quite different. i would not see that that, that the both tumbled. i would say that the order doesn't close shooting of the board does not help. but 1st and foremost, people come to the country. and this would be a very, a very smart thing to rethink that lives because i know that there are still options that are still marketed among iraqi people to to come to be the rest of wire. for example, connecting groups in other places like estimable or other but the bus, anyone want to find himself or herself in this situation. i don't know, i would not like to do now. also concerned of course about what's happening and i've gone east and right. and you already set the governments that there are concerns that look shanker, will use these people also to come to your board or what would you,
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what you do with them? well, i would not relate the i've gotten some situation directly to look a shank or swell of doing or not doing something. yes, he can try to deal with taliban and open up the route from couple to to minutes but. but still, i think the major concern is that there will be a broader problem with migration and this will not be a specifically live union problem. but i think that this is something in the european union should be prepared also on traditional rules of migration. but you are a new route and it's a possibility of what we want to say that there is no new route. how are you going to present that? well, because people who are coming here for political reasons, and we know that a might be people coming from a gun, stands for political reasons that are people that we want ourselves to help them
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and coming to, to talk to our country. ah, they still will be able to come because this is what the conventions about refugees is about. you are planning to build this long fence right. 500 kilometers long at your 760 long kilometers border with bell ruse. you need money for that right from the you. during a meeting with the interior minister there was this called for money to build this wall. will this sort of be possible that you will make this country into sort of a fortress against the outside world or unfortunately, it can happen. i don't know whether you will rethink the stands to finance the sort of investment. so we are that mind to implement this project, whatever. i think europe in union will have to rethink its strategy because it's not just the problem of the country start at the border because usually they would
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serve as a transit countries for, for other countries with actually high level of welfare. to finally host the people who are legally crossing and this becomes a very easy, very easy way than we all know about that this not. this is not what, what is in the interest of european union because they should be rules. we think in what way you said you should, we think it's, it's regulation so well, i think if there is a need and of course, this can be of the student and debate it and agreed upon some, some, some special special mechanism. but if there is a need to have a physical border, then it to my opinion, it also should be considered for eligible for, for finance. does that you also support the pushback that the government is doing right now? well, i don't think that somebody could support activities while you know, some people are feeling may be unsafe and disappointed. but
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so there with a balance between 2 things. because european union would not support us and not being able to protect the border either we might a 17 year old young man from iraq from northern iraq. his name was ali, yes. him and one of the camps and he sat. my dream is to study in this way and wants to become a chemist. what are his chances? well, the ra visa for studying as well. so when he's in one of the camps right now, yeah. well, he might be in one of the camps right now. so we will definitely talk to him as to all the other people and see what options out there. we have students who have been studying in our universities also from iraq and syria and other countries, medical studies, and also so different legal ways of coming to countries at least as open to become a multicultural society. well, you know, it is quite multicultural. society for ages,
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because historically, people who are from different nationalities and who are sort of a heritage of our country being the top, ours for, for example, or carrie or other people that might sound quite exotic for, for, for a european country. and they all live together and there was no got the whole run that she get out was there for some time, was a multinational, it was a multinational country and, and because the people here are quite reluctant, right? we spoke to some people, they say, we don't want these migrant here. i don't think that people are sort of, you know, hostile. i would say that the problem is the whole situation and all this illegal immigration. it's not the problem that the guy from the rocky will study chemistry of the university because there are people who are studying and nobody is sort of very much carrying about the, the fact because it's normal to, to,
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to meet different people who can come here for a terrific purposes or whatever. but the problem is what we see at the borders because it shakes a little bit the the, this was tied to a big number you know, world. busy whether that, what stuff, what will happen to people, what, what impact will they have on, on, on our daily lives. as soon as the situation is sorted out and the government is able to sort of arrange the living condition, the asylum procedures, the interpreters, the school for kids, of the things that's on this area and people are a little bit dispersed to to, to better conditions. i don't think that this will hold this way. any prime minister in the us, him, i need to thank you so much out there. ah, what job you're putting in a kidney?
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