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ah ah ah hi, i have the okay on today's episode of the stream has the democratic republic of congo finally found a solution to it security challenges on the some part of the country. they're over $100.00 armed groups vying for territory fighting the military and terrorizing civilians. this is a loading story. me me,
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family chicken bailing at the corner. if we can be a bit not too much at all. i don't like that. can i me, blue. but i'm losing my luck and i see about when you hit by the moon stuff out of the why am i in so why is this happening? while the d r c has so many natural resources, the land is literally worth fighting over. the government has imposed a state of siege for 2 eastern provinces. so that basically martial law. how is that state of siege going? that is the question we are going to ask, i guess let's meet them. hello freight. hello mr. hello jackie, they're about to introduce themselves to you. read, go ahead. tell everybody who you are and what you do. hi,
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my name is fred boma and i'm not giving the movement the moocher polish on mall. and i'm also going to say group get to have any frag hello minutes the welcome to the stream. great to have you on the screen. thank you for making time. introduce yourself to our stream audience. my name is patrick mia. i'm currently the minister of communication media, this focused person of government. i was elected twice as a member of mine before joining the government. today i will be talking from you live from being one region was on the state of jewish. get to have you. hello jackie, welcome to the stream. introduce yourself to i international view. it's good evening time, jackie keegan, i'm the head of the office of the mission of refugees when go mine nice to combo and i'm speaking from them. so now you have met vick asked, what would you like to ask them? what comments do you have about what is happening on the eastern side of the d. c,
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right now you on youtube, you can be part of the show, right? and how this jump into the comment section. be part of the discussion. i want to start with a tweet. this is such a good tweak, gets right to the right to the core of the question. have a look here on my laptop. was there any positive achievements during this period of 3 months? so this is rent the state of scenes was in place, is in place, military law is in place. fright. i'm going to actually, i'm going to get all the guests to respond just by briefly to that initial question . so didn't happen, that's good in the past 3 months, right? go ahead. i think the most positive thing may have happened is the tension that has been brought to the been region into this conflict, which is rather good and coughing. this is, this is a conflict that has been going on since at least 2014,
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many people we say to be going much longer than that. and to the rest of the word, i think this is a very to people know about this country to decal and have been no attention to it . so i think only for me, the positive thing we see is that it's brought to attention and discussion on this coffee. and maybe you can bring to some solution, jackie, what if we noticed the past remote 15 positive i'm we hear from people on the ground from the populations that are in areas around benny and elsewhere that they were hopeful that the central government was deciding to take a real stand and to invest in security in the area. and i mean, i think that's something that, that we're all looking for that we're wanting to see in gauge meant in all of the different sectors. this is military engagement. obviously, hopefully we would be looking for civilian and police justice etc. but, but the,
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the, the fact that the, that the, the, the capital is paying so much attention and it's investing in, in the possibility of a more peaceful trading opportunity. paying attention minister. yes for the 1st thing i think that we stopped now to do the end off. nice. got us for situation because she just thought a bit like in the 1994 after and it was crazy in wanda it's dr. there. gina, today, 25 years later. now we have fishing, tory, to, to put the country in be part of the country. and our state of case was a request. then the state of the us rather president to, to get the providing to those people will been crying every day since you saw the images. sometimes when people speak about the situation,
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there is always about what people dying and now do not take the decision to stops finelli to and the situation and really put everything on the table. because this distribution on these crises recreate lots of things diplomatically economically. but let's stop by military, because we are fishing, terrorism victories can all be shut up when we bring a weapon. when to bring military in the other lives, we are trying to bring saudi sion or by providing social security trying trying to to, with a strong economy in the region because we're seeing that. so that would be part of the different retail on this matter. let me give our audience an idea of the kind of violence that civilians have to face on a daily basis. this is not q. this is a ambush that happened in july. have a look. the
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loan, this guy that i don't even really know which angle we were attacked from, the enemy suddenly appeared and started firing bullets from that site. immediately we dumped our motorbike and looked for a hiding place in the bushes. the men, we lost our congress compatriots who are passengers in this vehicle with their belongings. but thank god we manage to save some of the wounded were ambushed by the allied democratic forces and its allies is of all i'm just thinking, if you know as a, as a research or something he's falling very closely what's happening in the d r c. that there are more than a 100 groups. how many other exactly. it's your best of your knowledge. to be very, to the said to put a number, but it least according to the last 3 put by the q security truck. we have now around 120 group in,
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in the eastern part of the i see most of the group are enough cable, tory and south cable. ok. so how does the military law, which affects you, what state of stages, how the military law deal with over a 100 separate groups over multiple provinces. how is that possible? well i think this is the, this is the 1st problem with, with this is of c's and this is 100 of i'm room which have different ways of acting and different reason why they. ready decide to fight and you cannot respond to all of them only by me to tell your patients. the state of the solution is a purely military one. and i don't think it is a, it is a long lasting solution for, for the decry in the the, the problem of i'm group is very complex and
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a solution to it. we're required to understand it, to need complexity. it requires the government to finkel internal problem inside the army, to the government, to think of the accountability problem, to cut the government to understand the economy of those on group. and without that any solution will be just a very short term solution. and, and that's, i think that's why i think somehow it's kind of a very thoughtful solution to this complex jackie, the reason we wanted to in this conversation was really important because the civilians are really important, but they always get pushed aside in the d. r. c. you see them running from one village to another village escaping then moving back and then running away again. this is the way of life. many, congo, please. can you tell us a story that really helps us connect with their,
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their disastrous situation that they're in right now? and the problem is, i think that there are too many stories, and unfortunately they're really similar. we. we know that there are between 2 and 3000000 people displaced here, internally in north with the moment of some 680000 participate this year. but in fact, those numbers on the state, the number of times somebody was displayed very many people, particularly in that area around they may have been forced from their homes originally. they've gone and found shelter in their neighbor children position the then had to flee together with their neighbors to another place and another and or indeed. and in other cases, there are 2 will stay over night in their own village, but who are unable to get to their fields. just up the road. people who are able to get to the fields but not able to go home to the stocks of food and,
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and their goods in their, in their villages of origin. so what we see is, is that families start out with, with very little. and then over time, they progressively lose not only the possession, but also connections with their communities and, and with the land. but it's important, of course, if you're trying to know where i live. so unfortunately, this is, this is the story that many very many people, all at the same time and, and while people are running away from the groups, they're running way from the rural areas into the cities. this is a point that joseph, that made trust a little bit earlier, have a listen, have a looks. we saw that this is been increasing go far mr. operation. there are 2 parameters and between and those meter oppression that both of us and it kind of ruined to population people around the
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area is the fee that andy can move forward. the 50 we could move and the big c d i get, we have an audience who really wants to talk to you. so i'm going to ask you to do very brief responses back to them freight. let me start with this one for you. what are the un, why hasn't the mission work over several decades? so we talk about, we're not here. and that is the un mission that has been in the d r. c. if they, they, for pretty impressively, and have had some success freight one of the us while the you and have been successful to buy in 2012 and again the m 23 in 2013. since then, the un in is very present in the, in that region, and it has been what you could buy for an option. and it's an capacity to put an end to those months because many people have been asking for a renewal,
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the international regard, which isn't the bug. and i think i think might, may be, will mention have been discussion recently on how to renew those. some of the military in that regard by the government and i would like to hear more, but that by particular, let me just bring in the mail. if the minister francis has this question, i'm going to give this one to you on youtube. so many people multinational companies have the, has in the trouble in the democratic republic of congo, especially previous governments, is exploitation by calculus, the interest a problem. thank the filter off minister on it. go ahead. no, the 1st thing i would like to try to say year is that the 1st, what we saw as ambush was it terrorist attack? we are fishing, isn't. this must be clear. and the tories,
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the question because more but more complex because in the region we have a lot of amino resources. we cheese the subject of all those company, your muscle. so what we are doing now is that under is to kish, we bring these muscle to make sure sick to make sure those all those mining company. there is a lot, especially on by some training company walk and they don't pay anything. what we are doing now is to try to see the way we can, we've got all those permission will take money and we take my name and overseas colton and everything on that. because the programming, the reason is that we have naval those people who talk some mining resources from c make transits in the country. now neighborhoods, that's why induce in this matter,
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the diplomatic fiction is one of the key points. the president sticky was here for you let you let you stay in norfolk even for like tree ridge. he met the prison and guy made the prison. it's mostly of any to talk about and to talk about the government. because one of the men reason of the terrors of all these program we are isn't, is that the region is very rich, is really, really minutes like to, i've just got money in the us. and if you control the, you have got endless riches, endless wealth. so i, mike michael is how do you, how do you even solve that? i'm going to fred in here. i wouldn't know. how do you sell that problem? if there's little money in the ground, how are you going to get rid of all groups? what, why would they go? never take, i'm afraid for it is here. i'm just a passionate african freight guy as no. oh, really love to miss me more. but i think there's 2 general
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understanding of conflict in, in, in, in the east or at least the recent trend. the 1st one is that the mining is the main reason why people fight in the region while that's why that has been true for sometime in the past. i think the, the economy of roop has been transformed from in, during the last last year. there is more than mine is tough and stuff like that. we shot more of the local economy that many and whoop, in the region to, to, to leave. now the thing is, i sense it says level of incoherence in the, in the sort of the con government where the defend time, they tend to focus on regional corporation which may be a good thing. but if it looked like the under estimate,
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the negative role, that some countries in the region had been playing for years in the conflict intuition in the 8th. and the last thing for me is since the beginning, it's now more than the mouth. the teacher's been proclaimed isn't working, can. is it working? while that's the question, i think it's not working. i would like the mr. patrick to tell us how many people have been arrested because of the collaboration we've on group. how many business man, how many m. p 's. how many? right, let's, let's give them a space minister. go out. do you have these figures for want to be locked up in the minute? one thing i have, i'm happy to share the share with him. go ahead with a 2 month must be, must be clear for watching these these show that this address in the it is very
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complex because it's like for 20 years or 25 years. so if i make, if we're getting to the end of the show and we will get you back again, but did you have any figures for fred? he also a couple of direct questions. did you have any i will give you. i will also read because each go ahead, it's very important to understand which understand the context. yeah, you have, since we've been appointed as government, it's been like under a days, it's my 2nd time to being here in been mean that given for the government, it's clear. we have a plane, we need to go step by step because we know the situation is complex. we must make sure our military has everything to fight all those territories. one live and it is 2nd lever because many. so i am going to shoot because i am running out of time. can you also one of us not let know, let know we can't question 1st. oh, i'm running. i'm running out of 5 minutes. let me let you off the question. yes or
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no? just one, just one. you don't have to do the whole list of them. what is the course i can, i can ask, i can ask. i can ask on one of his grades, i was afraid these inactivity. yeah. yes. repeat one question. repeat the 1st question i liked it was one easy question. maybe it would be what are, what are the fee if you get the minute i have a lot of power. how many people the me to tell you verify how many police fusion high top level petition has been arrested? no, no, the question that way, that way you are asking question. you can don't find a good. all right. first form, we put and it states are, we are in the 1st we're peep or like you must understand why we are doing that. we are doing that to start to wing sorta should it is short stance tradition which give us the availability to have all those say, well,
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just mentally i feel like i do not have enough time for you to get to an answer to friends question, but i do appreciate you answering the question. i do appreciate that it's going to take a long time than we have in the show for you to get to it. i want to get to christoph vogel at a minute. i'm moving over the show now because if, because i've spent long enough on getting out for one question, christ vocal is a research right to the conflict such group university. and christoph makes this really interesting point. let's play it. one of the points that has been actually a little bit neglected is that on the ground in many places across north keep wanting to re nothing much has actually changed. because even before this state of siege populations have been used for, for years and years to actually a state of siege like situation either through ongoing lead to operations or through the control of one of the many on groups. so i think it's also important to
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see things from the bigger picture and not forget the whole entire context on where this new situation has been coming in. so not that much has really changed for civilian, says chris stuff. i want to put this question to you, jackie than this comes from you trouble. we often get it when we talk about civilians who are in really difficult situations. what can be international community do to help control the violence? what are you able to do? what are your colleagues able to to jackie, to support civilians? so humanitarians of course don't control violence. what we do is to respond to its impact. since the beginning of the state of senior, we've seen some 12000 families displaced in the area around the c. c and what's called the small north. the tino there are many thousands more displaced around benny, the,
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the change that happens at the beginning of the state of nature of any is that whereas in the past cycle of, of operation surgery operation and then the weekend and the territory by armed groups has been more or less on a, on a one basis at this point. there are multiple fronts. so people are being displaced now from multiple areas. at the same time. there are fewer areas for people to be able to take refuge areas that in the past were agriculture areas where people are able to go on and seek a bit of quiet the piece or now also being fought over. so what we're seeing as an amplification of the military activity, and unfortunately an application also of reprisals in some cases, violent groups against the local population. unfortunately, what we haven't seen yet, and the, the deputy governor here is a policeman. so we're hoping very much that his contribution will become a little bit more visible, is the,
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the follow up to the military activity. military operations can dislodge armed group, but unless they are followed by civilian leaders and by trained, equipped salaried, and under and well managed lease, we're not necessarily going to see the stability that the population is hoping for . so as his 1st phase, we're seeing a lot of a lot movement, a lot of military movements, and unfortunately, a lot of displacement as well as some pretty serious even right, foundations committed by armed groups and solicitations against security forces. what we're looking to see is that next stage that stabilisation face populations are going to be able to rely on their civilian leaders and on the security forces that are supposed to be working there and ordinary normal life. i am going to end with some pictures here on my laptop that many say you shared with us is what you were doing earlier on today. a few hours before the show started your village. you are visiting a military hospital with the prime minister of the us really?
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yes and talking. i mean, and people who are putting their lives on the line to help east and democratic republic of congo. i am just about to wrap up. have i'm going to ask you very direct question, which i need a very direct answer from you. are you winning the security challenge? are you succeeding? or of course we are today. what have to tell you that all those i'm and today we ever edition almost 4 times and reduce them of those local. i'm a group and we create what we call and they will be session program. and we up pointed people would take them. that's a progress. the order of progress is that mean it's are, we are when and will be better by the presence of the prime minister and the president of the region in the past me. we are in the way and formative from the ministry communications and faith. so that is his job. thank you,
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melissa. thank you, jackie. thank you. fred. thank you to comment as i'll see you next time. ah, news news. the venezuela, columbia has become a stomping grounds for trespasses as desperate people transgress and illegal passage to feed an emerging fuel trafficking market. we follow that perilous journey unguarded, through the line of fire. risking at all and
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