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women and men and children of afghanistan already suffering hugely, but there will be opportunities in the coming days and weeks now. we've got this resolution decided, i think, to build on in the un security council among permanent 5 members for the consultation among the g 7. which we've been sharing and g 7 and extended format, working with regional partners to look at ways which we, where we need to move forward on some of the longer term questions. thanks. type some i think from a lot of big newspaper, my question is regarding un troops, are you in favor in your national capacity? are you in favor of having un troops securing the capital area or the airport, and you have any common since you are one of the 3 countries who were responsible for the resolution. any comments on the fact that china and russia abstained and the common they had to cancel? thank you. thank you. so i think on the 1st question,
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i mean it is critical that the airport is properly secured. and the tragedy of the bombing of the suicide bombing at the airport was such a cool that into question. and apart from the 300 or more people killed and injured meant that the possibility of safe passage was severely disrupted. i think there's still an open question about how the airport secured and i know that's one of the questions that is on the discussion. so we don't have a particular view on how it should be done, but important that the airport is secure. and then in terms of the extension to extension, since you know, from russia and china, of course, you really need to ask them for the reasons. but i think i'd say a couple of things. the 1st is that this was a short resolution. it was a response to the attack and as i say, captured the key points on count terrorism,
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humanitarian access, human rights and safe passage in particular. but what really struck me from the discussions we had to day in the council. and the discussions we've had in the 4 meetings leading up to today is the shed. important that we all attach to the stability and security of afghanistan, that african stone should not become a haven for terrorism. and that it should not be in a position to disrupt its neighbors. so i think there's a lot of shared ground force to work from. although in this case, russia and china upstate ruston budget for the resolution. thank you. we'll packet . well, let's try and bring in our guess. now acc, shire command, the director of crisis advocacy and special projects at human rights watch. i'm actually a thanks very much for hanging on with us as we listened to everybody at that
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meeting at the insecurity cam. so. so what we were talking about previously is the draft resolution doesn't go into how all of this is going to happen. i apologize. i think we're going to have to jump back into the us and then we will come back here . promise. let's listen to their point again in afghan stan, the resolution we adopted today put forward by the u. s. u. k and france outlines 3 clear expectations regarding the future of f. ghana. stan. first, the security council expects the taliban to live up to a commitment to facilitate safe passage for afghans and foreign nationals who want to leave a scan. the stand today as well as going forward. second, the taliban and all parties need to facilitate humanitarian assistance. and humanitarian actors must be given full, must be given full, safe and unhindered access to continued service delivery to those indeed. and bear
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the security council reiterates its enduring call on the importance of counter terrorism, respecting human rights, including those of women, girls and minorities working towards the ability and peace in afghan stand. as you all know, the united states is grieving the loss of 13 young service members who made the ultimate sacrifice in service of america's highest ideas, working to save the lives of others. and were also morning, the hundreds of afghans who were killed or injured during the attack. they went to the airport in search of a better life. and today we honor their memories. as of this morning, we have flown more than 122000 people out of s scanner stand since the end of july . and so many have made this power possible. our courageous service members are
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tireless diplomats and dozens of countries work to make this happen. today's residence resolution furthers these life saving efforts and it addresses the challenges we face in afghanistan, both now and going forward. this is incredibly important. after all, we cannot air lift an entire country to safety. this is the moment where diplomacy has the step up. last week, the taliban committed to the safe passage and freedom to travel for afghans and foreign nationals. and by adopting this resolution, the security council has shown that the world expects the taliban to live up to these promises today, tomorrow and after august 30. first. this is of the utmost importance to us. and while we address the needs of those who leave afghanistan,
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this resolution also affirms the security council's enduring commitment to those who remain the afghan people are suffering not just from conflict and massive internal displacement, but also from a nation nationwide drought and from the corporate 1900 pandemic un agencies or warning that humanitarian needs in the coming months will be best. the you in refugee agency estimates that nearly a half dozen, serv, i half 1000000 afghans have been internally displaced this year alone. the world food program estimates that 14000000 people in afghanistan are at risk of starving without food assistance. and unicef has reported that covert 19 vaccinations have dropped by 80 percent in recent weeks. vital humanitarian assistance must flow to people in desperate need and the single largest donor of humanitarian assistance
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staff can stand as the single largest donor the united states is absolutely committed to helping our partners on the ground provide food protection, shelter, essential health care, water, sanitation, hygiene services and so much more vital humanitarian aid to afghans. finally, this resolution reiterates several serious concerns. the security council has about afghans of ghana stance future going forward, including the importance of counter terrorism and respecting human rights. afghanistan can never again become a safe haven for terrorism. and we need to ensure afghanistan, respects the in the long interval rights of its people, including women and girls and minorities. we will continue to work with our allies, with our partners and with all the countries who share our interest in a safe, stable afghanistan that fulfills his obligation to his people and the international
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community. today the security council took decisive action and we must continue to go to do that going forward. the united states will keep pushing here at the united nations and in other diplomatic contexts to protect the rights of the people of afghanistan, and to do everything in our power to advance security and peace. thank you, and i'll take a couple of questions. thank you my remember different work or you just say that the you can leave all the country to leave, but will happen. he a 1000000 peak or 2000000 people to 3000000 tough guy, an afghan. he wants to leave and maybe come to this country. i mean now has the un, what did this resolution and tell them that they can. so what is your respond to millions of people that will like to leave we, we took out 122000 people in the past, barely month and
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a half. and as i said we, we can't, we simply can't take out the entire country, but we are working to continue to provide opportunities for people to leave. and that's what this resolution did. it provided for safe passage for any afghan who wishes to leave the country. and we will work to assist them in that effort going forward. our efforts don't. and on the 31st of august. thank you. thank you. mother of a letter from anthony wire. can i have a comment from you on the national rush and china? do you think that that undermine the hope of being a unified response of from the international community on the situation and i've gotten, you know, we were disappointed with the extensions of russia and china. i will tell you that within the p 5, we consulted very closely. we took into account some of the concerns that both the
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chinese and the russians raised in the draft resolution that was eventually approved. so the fact that they abstain, i think they will have to explain themselves. but i think the security council spoke strongly. and the, what in the resolution i think are issues that are important to every single member of the security council, including china and russia. thank you. thank you and back to some i've been from a lot of the edge of the newspaper. my question is about the issue for the mission of taliban. i'm sorry. the issue recognition of taliban, when is it for you? a time or a period? where would you say we are ready to try to, to think about recognizing the tiny bon
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a and what needs to be done there on the ground from your site. we're not in a place yet where we are prepared to recognize taliban. they haven't even formed the government yet. so we need to see what kind of government they form. we insist that that government be inclusive and that it allows for the participation of women. and that it takes into consideration as it forms itself, the rights of all afghans, including minorities. so we will see what kinds of actions they take before any decisions are made about recognition. thank you. that's it. so that was the us ambassador to the un speaking there, linda thomas greenfield. she was just reiterating what's been decided the un this evening of the un security cam. so they basically decided that safe passage would be provided for all those who wish to leave off gun shy kumar is the director of
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crisis advocacy and special projects and human rights watch. and she's been waiting very patiently to talk to us joining us from new york via skype. actually, thanks very much for patiently waiting. i'm. we've heard a lot of talk this evening about holding taliban accountable. about providing this safe passage for all those who want to leave, but we haven't heard a lot about how but once you take on everything you for this evening. well i think that what is clear is that security council has adopted a resolution that proved to the taliban. the world is watching. we are watching with the horror we are watching with concern and we are all watching with the hope that the taliban will stick to its word. but a very healthy dose of skepticism. because we've seen this before. we know the
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towel, bonds record that human rights. my organization has been working on the situation of kind of fun for decades now, including the limitations on human rights, especially for women and girls. and so, although the resolution does mention the importance of safeguarding the rights of women and girls, a lot remains to be seen on how the taliban conducts itself. good reason to watch with concern shy of from your perspective in your organization. how do you think this will land with those desperate to flee? afghanistan? will the see this as a door opening or will they remain with healthy skepticism as you are? well we know that today, august 31st is the last day for the foreign military presence at the cobble airport . we don't know what that means for future flights in and out of the country. the resolution that was adopted by the good counsel today says that the paula bon authorities are assuring out anyone who wants to leave the country,
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whether they be a foreign national or an off gun, that they will have that opportunity about right to do so. but we don't know the logistics of how that will happen. how will that assure that? do the telephone even have control when we see a task by other non state armed actors? underwear we've seen in the past few days, so much is left to be decided and i think many people are scared and hiding for good reason. just one last question, if i may, what are the key things in the short term? if we look to, for example, just the coming days, if i can put it like that the you are organization would like to see happen to enable this safe passage for those who are vulnerable and who want to leave country . well, what we are focused on, without a doubt, is the right of every individual to be able to seek asylum. that means the right to go and cross the border into any country they wish and say,
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i'm fearful of what will happen to be if i am sent back. and that means that these other countries, whether there need be countries, whether these are outcomes for arriving by flight, need to respect that right. and to give people process and the right to have their case heard. but there's a lot, a lot, a lot unknown about how people will even get to those borders, get on their flights, get across into another country. and that is something that africans and civil society networks and others are working on as we speak. come where they're director of crisis advocacy and special projects, a human rights for showing me their from new york or shy. thank you. thank you. well, christian salumi is live from the united nations. so kristen, it wasn't a fool, heis. china and russia objected. there was quite a lot of talk in the comments afterwards, but you know, we wish we'd had a full house. we wish everybody had agreed. why did they abstain?
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yes, and it's an important distinction. they didn't stop the resolution from going through . they didn't veto it, but they did abstain and did not provide the unified international strong response that the council members some council members were hoping for. the resolution itself has 3 main areas that calls for safe passage in and out of the country. for afghan civilians, as well as foreign nationals, it talks about unimpeded humanitarian access, which is going to be needed more than ever after the u. s. completed withdraw and it talks about the fact that afghan was and cannot become a safe haven for terrorists. and that is the one point that everyone really agreed on, including the russians and the chinese who did abstain. the russians, however, made clear that they wanted other adjustments to the text. as did china,
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the russian ambassador talked about the need for other terrorist groups to be mentioned as well. they said, while there's focus on the taliban, the attack that happened at the airport was carried out by ice. ok, no mention of them are other groups operating within afghanistan and in a dig out the united states. he said that perhaps this is a way to shift the blame away from the united states after 20 years of occupation and a hasty, chaotic withdraw. so that was one particular issue that the russians brought up. they also talked about the fact that this doesn't address sanctions. the need to free up cash for afghanistan. something that the taliban is asking for. something that the taliban says they will need in order to develop the country. so
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this was a disappointment of france. ireland said that clearly in the council the united states said that adjustments were made to the text after lengthy negotiations with the chinese and the russians. so that was a disappointment, but western powers attempting to put a positive spin on the same we did get it passed and this is just the starting point. we can keep talking going forward. and kristen, what are the next steps? because this was very much described, wasn't in the briefing as a good 1st step, but what are the next steps? absolutely. well, we know, for example, that the mission of the united nations in afghanistan, the united nations assistance mission for afghanistan, nama, as it's known, the mandate for that mission expires in september. so many are seeing this as an
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opportunity to revisit some of these issues. to look at how things are going perhaps strengthen the international communities response there. again, many said that that would be a good opportunity. my, my colleague al jazeera producer, amanda price asked about these further steps of the u. k. ambassador, she said that she pointed out that the taliban really wants sanctions against them lifted in order to work in the country in order to bring investment and development into the country. and she suggested that that could be a carrot, perhaps for the taliban, or if they refuse to live up to these obligations spelled out in this resolution, they could also be a stick moving forward. she was also asked about the possibility of an international military military presence, a un peacekeeping force, whether or not that could be an option. she sidestepped that the. that would be
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a very difficult negotiation here at the united nations didn't seem ready to, to go there just yet. but that's something that some groups have raised as a possibility, as a way to ensure the safety, security, human right, to all of the things that the international community says it wants in afghanistan going forward. but at the end of the day, this was a past resolution, a statement from the international community about what they expect moving forward . and you know, we heard from many of the speakers that did taliban will be judged on their actions, not just their words as they debate those next steps. christian, so they mean they're joining us live from the united nation. kristen, thank at school straight now to roll mcbride, who's standing by for his live from cobble. hi there, rob. and that was quite the meeting session. there was
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a lot being said about the commitment the will in the chamber to make sure the safe passage for those who wish to leave afghanistan. and of course, safeguarding human to humanitarian rights will happen not so much the around high. when i wonder from your perspective, seeing the situation on the ground, whether it's the how that will become the tricky bit. yeah, i mean that as they say, the devil is always in the details. i want to talk about that and i will, i will come to that. i got a few points to make on that, but i think it's worth mentioning. there's an awful lot of speculation here at the moment that a lot of chatter that we may be seeing finally, the end of this evacuation exercise. and if that is the case, that is the end of the us military involvement and that kind of stuff. now this is not been confirmed by anybody, but there's been an awful lot of chatter on social media that we may have seen the wheels up on the last of the evacuation transport across from cobble airport. we.
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there are emails from quoting. the taliban is saying that this is finally the end. they are taking control of the airport and then the last couple of minutes or so we've seen and heard the build up of what could well be celebrate to re gunfire that have been burst of gunfire around the streets here over in the direction of the airport. itself, we've seen strings of streams of trace or red trace firing up into the air. which again, might suggest a kind of a celebration. but most importantly, that the aircraft noise is that we've been hearing constantly now full days and especially on this monday evening. they have suddenly in the last 1520 minutes suddenly suddenly dropped. that seems to be another gunshot going off the, the aircraft noises which have been of different types. we've had patrolling,
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wall plains, us warplanes, overhead. some of them flying very low to make the presence felt. we've also had the, the low rumble of transport aircraft taking off from the airport. we've been hearing that throughout the afternoon and into monday evening. all of that in the last 1520 minutes or so. has faded away, it's actually the, i think there is still possibly on craft overhead that we've been listening to. but it all seems to have to have faded away very, very recently. it's worth noting, we are actually after midnight, now we are into the 31st. we're into the 31st of august. that is, of course, the deadline for the u. s. military to depart. so we are wondering whether this is meeting the deadline. i've just been passed a note here. let's see. we are, we're also being heading a confirmation from another taliban source,
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the possibly the last day kraft has actually taken off. so that's what we're hearing here. this has not been confirmed by anybody as yet, but there is an awful lot of speculation at around just after midnight on the 31st here local time in. cobble that is that the u. s. military have left. as i said, that has not yet been confirmed, but that seems to be an awful lot of indicators, at least pointing in that direction. so as you say, we may the very close to 20 years of military involvement from the u. s. and i've got some coming to a close. what we heard very clearly in the chamber tonight, the un security council was they kept saying, you know, this is just an initial 1st step. what are the next 4 steps? and then there you are standing gunfire in the background and i'm trying to marry up the 2 pictures. there's a un security council where there's talk of safe passage control of the airport at all times. very orderly. but i'm thinking how, how do those 2 pictures come together to get these vulnerable people out of
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afghanistan and for the safe and secure country to emerge? that is going to be extremely difficult after the departure, which we believe may well be from now from now on. if you'd like evacuating people, they're accurate in the military. back to a few people waiting. people who have been cleared for i might be the part i think the hard part is now trying to evacuate people from a country that the taliban is firmly in control of pro says fees or applications from people living under the taliban. government says it takes control here. how do those people get out of afghanistan? the taliban is still guaranteed that all of these people that have the if they have the right paperwork, they can, they can leave. but what does it mean?
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have the right paperwork. so they get passports, they show those issued by the taliban government is even that the passport department working now will the taliban allow people to leave? it's been an awful lot of speculation that the taliban are not going to continue with what is effectively been a brain drain. it's the we have seen in the past few weeks or so. a lot of the brightest people, the people with essential skills and so on, lining up and claiming seats on evacuation flights. will the taliban rib allow that to continue? that have been other suggestions for example, that there might be a safe haven here. and in cobble for that process to continue for people to apply to leave and to be allowed to leave. well, that is fraught with problems that taliban wants nothing to do with the so called safe haven. it's proposed by the, the french there are problems about who polices this, who decides who can getting to the safe haven and then get out of the country. so
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that is very tough, problematic. so while the taliban has guaranteed that a will give safe passage, it remains to be seen in, in, in reality how that comes about. then there are other guarantees such as human rights and the taliban has already said that stress from the very beginning that they are willing to get to guarantee the rights of women and girls. but importantly, within the framework of sharea. and that of course is very problematic. because who defines exactly what, what those dictates what that framework is and the international community will certainly not be prepared to accept the kind of strictest interpretation and implementation of sharea and islamic law as, as we saw under the 1st in the 1st taliban regime of government 20 years ago, but to say, because the band is over, always stressed. this is tyler and 2 point ho. and as i've been speaking, the amount of gunfire around us, as you can hear, has increased,
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which does seem as we look towards the airport, there's more bursts of trace the streaking into the sky from the for the this does all seem to indicate and point towards the end of the u. s. involvement, military involvement in afghanistan after 20 years. moment by joining me there live from cobble rog, sanky will gave elizondo is live in washington, d. c. hi, there gave me one more just going on the back. what we heard was saying there, are you hearing about flags of combo? a couple things. first and foremost, the pentagon has just announced that they will be holding a briefing here in washington at the bottom of the hour, which isn't about 2 minutes or so. we'll be carrying that live. this was a briefing that was unexpected. it was not on the schedule. and it was just
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announced within the last 10 minutes or so. as soon as we started getting these reports in that possibly the last u. s. military plains have left 100 cars, a international airport. nothing has been officially confirmed yet here in washington. but clearly, the fact the pentagon will be holding a briefing and a couple of minutes from now to watch at very closely. couple other things. the federal aviation administration has just sent out a notice to airmen. it's called a no tam that goes out to all aviators, pilots around the world. and it says effective immediately. and this came out just within the last 10 minutes or so. and it read it says effective immediately. 100 cars international airport is uncontrolled. no air traffic controller, airport services are available aircraft operating into, out of or through cobble air and landing should use extreme caution. that's an
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alert that was just sent out from the federal aviation administration. beyond that, we have been tracking flight radar websites. and there has been at least one u. s. military plane within the last half hour or so that circled over into afghanistan, but then circled back out of afghanistan, i don't know what to make of that right now, but certainly that it's a lot of people to think that perhaps it was no longer needed. again, a lot of speculation right now, what's going on, as you can tell from my colleague rob mcbride, they're reporting from cobble with the latest information there. however, let's sit tight. nothing confirmed yet from washington, but we should have something very soon from the pentagon and gave of course, what has the atmosphere where you are been around the withdrawal as there been a confident sense of progress working towards this deadline. whether or not as we say it has now fundamentally passed and the american involvement.
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