one extreme fine conditions will continue on wednesday with more strong rings forecast salvador is preparing to adopt bitcoin as legal tender from next week. it's congress has just approved a $150000000.00 fund to help convert the crypto currency to us dollars. it will be run by the state development bank. a solider will be the 1st country in the world to use bitcoin as an official currency plan's been met with skepticism abroad and protests at home. a check of the headlines here on out to 0 us president joe biden has defended his withdrawal of troops from afghanistan. quoting the evacuation unexplored re success, criticism of the chaos of the past few weeks. as of dentist on rapidly fell under the control of the taliban. but biden blamed afghan forces the collapsing fund more quickly than expected. we succeeded what we set out to do, and i can't stand over

a decade ago. and we stayed for another decade. it was timed and this war this is a new world. the terror threat has metastasize across the world. well beyond afghanistan, we face threats from l. sure. bob in somalia, al qaeda affiliates and syria and the ruby peninsula. and isis attempting to create a kayla fight in syria and iraq and establishing affiliates across african asia. the fundamental obligation of a president, in my opinion, is been defend and protect america. not against threats of 2001, but against the threats of 2021 and tomorrow. and the u. k. census in direct talks of the taliban to secure a safe passage out of again, it's done for british nationals and afghan allies who remain that the talks are

taking place in doha. britain's mission came to an end on saturday. it flown more than 15000 people out. in the past 2 weeks. the taliban is express disappointment at the departing us troops for disabling planes and helicopters, and destroying equipment at cobbles. airport group also said wants to attract foreign investment and run an inclusive government. in other news, u. s. federal court document show that one of 2 former you can national, is accused of being part of an eyesore self repeat guilty to criminal charges on thursday. i'll exam the cozy was expedited from iraq last year to face tron in the us is accused of involvement in the beheadings of western hostages or canada has left hundreds of thousands on the u. s. gulf coast without drinking water and electricity is the governor call the destruction catastrophic. bestowing power could take weeks. at least 4 people died for those were headlines and he's continues here on to 0 after the stream. stadium,

thanks so much bye. for now. the city of cobbled has experience so much evil for decades, and this is another change to get used to. and one that's far from easy situation. for now, it's not clear. the people are just lost and confused. there are deep rooted fears about the erosion of basic price in particular for women and girls, despite assurances from the taliban and about return to true punishments for certain crimes. everybody will be safe, nobody's kid will be kidnapped again to rental. now together that feeling that way forward into the new reality use high. i semi ok for over 30 years. climate activists have been campaigning for climate action. but could my civil disobedience be the one thing that gets

government to actually act? the climate justice group extension rebellion thing. so for the past 2 weeks, they have been staging a protest called be impossible rebellion joining us to talk about the tactics of extinction with betty. and we have jenny allan and refer good to see or 3 of you jenny. please introduce yourself to the stream audience. tell them who you are and what you do. ok, i'm jenny condit. i am an a member of extinction rebellion. i'm retired now, but for many years i was in the finance business. i was banker with j. p. morgan for 20 years and i hope to bring some of that background to the fight. and i would really nice to have you in the stream introduce yourself, global audience. yeah. hello everybody. my name is dr. terry, i'm the scientist. my background. i used to work up in the tips for the climate change is impacts on the pendant frost and how that accelerates. the feedback that

speed up, the climate change process. and i kind of started, i didn't want to study the problems anymore and it stayed away from the solution. so now i see research climate communications and how we can improve public understanding about what's happening and get more people in goals and taking action . talk more about that in just a moment, then. hello, welcome to the stream. introduce yourself to our dance. i'm professor rupert read. i teach philosophy at the university of the thing where i work alongside some of the world's leading climate scientists. i used to be a spokesperson for exxon, and i wrote a book called extinction rebellion insights from the inside. all right, so audience, you as you have met the panel, what do you want to austin? if you on youtube, you can put your comments or questions right? in the comments section, be part of today's show. it's not going to save us. we are now. all right, so humanity we need to be standing together to allow previous

to extract in this way. they just not listening. they're only interested academic right? mind. just look at whether, you know, economic growth is what causes a birth, whether system. the idea is to be able to hold responsible corporations and the banks who have exploited fields on colorado. we want to be able to tell the truth and also show that the need help for them as the music we have to be really i have to say that conversation, those conversations, they sound vice passion, urgency, people are really, really ramped up about what way we all right, now with our climate crisis. why do you not seeing that in the general public?

why we not, in general, i think we are seeing that in the general public in pulling danger, it's very clear that the overwhelming majority of the public are very concerned about climate change. and actually that's become more so since these protest started happening, which i, she's being a real uptick in the amount of concern. but people are saying it's actually the number 2 issue in terms of public concern in the u. k. now having police that these protest people ready people often. yeah, often ask janica, what is the reaction on what is the reaction on the street and i've been, i've been in the streets for the last week and a half. and the thing i most often hear the phrase i most often hear from the public is thank you. they get it. they feel urgency to and they're grateful that we're out there and doing this. what do you think of somebody who was part of extinction? rebellion, rupert, what do you think really sums up the ethos of the organization? what they're trying to do because with construction pictures during this

conversation. and there are landmarks that if people know london, they will see. and they will say, wow, how did you get a bus to do that? and what, how did you close down tower bridge? and what is the connection between shutting down a very busy metropolitan area and the climate crisis? yes, so i think it's clear that extinction rebellion having an effect there. and so right now through the current protests, i'd also like to go back to april 20, nothing seen to the 1st extinction rebellion in london. and it's extremely clever that was the trigger for the enormous up surge in climate concern that we've had over the last few years. at least if you came to some extent in the country. it's very, very clear from the opinion polls. at the same time though, i would like to ask a question, which is, is it clear that this is going to continue to be the case if extinction?

rebellion continue to be the case and all that happens, and i'm not sure that it will. in other words, it may be that extinction rebellion have had an amazing impact in 2019 and in the couple of years since then. but it might also be that other organizations may not be needed to take the message further forward because i suspect, but quite a lot of the public are not going to find themselves willing to identify with the client very full on, justified, but very full on protest. civic rebellion are engaging and so my view is that it's possible that the most important long term impact of extension. rebellion may be that it has rit token a space that others may be able to inhabit it, work as a radical flame. and it may now be time where it may be time for some huge new motor flying to step into the space that it is opened up and perhaps get a lot, a much larger cohort of the population of countries like the u. k. the usa, france,

and germany on side jenny, your work has done question by what i would really like to say to that that, that there are many strings for the bow. and there is space in the climate site for different kinds of organizations. but at the same time extinction rebellion, it's not standing still. we're not just replaying the same sorts of ideas that we've had this particular week. we're really focused on the city of london of the reason for that is because finance plays a critical role in the the, the production of fossil fuels. and so that's where we're heading now. and i would say our focus now is not so much on telling the truth. i think people get it. you know, we all understand that we're in a climate climate emergency. but what we're not doing is seeing urgency in action. and that, i think is going to be the focus of extension rebellion in the next few days. and

perhaps the next year. i want to show you jenny, i think what he says there is that would be right. and again, it is clear that extinction rebellion is having an effect. it is clearly the right thing. perfect thought to be targeting the 50. but it is also clear that the number of those in bold and extinction rebellion are not on the on the right. the numbers in this rebellion are less, for example, then in october 2019. that's very clear. so my suggestion is that what was really needed now is for others to take full advantage of the space that extinction rebellion has opened up. it has moved the agenda to raise climate consciousness decisively, but it might be that there are other organizations, other ways of doing things that will be easier to get the majority of the population actually behind the actual changes that we need. if we're going to survive a decade, and i just bring in another voice into our discussion right now,

and this is the voice of jason scott warren. i love you to have a listen to jason. just come off the back of his for after agree. i'm just intrigued about how you might pack the so just curious can exhaust the dial and climate. i'm not the confident that it can, but i am hopeful because i think that non violent civil disobedience has a good record historically as a way of making change. i do think we need a very broad base of public support for this. i think we need people to pile in behind us and to express their support. what about just in discussions and conversation, whether it's st donating, whether it's through getting in touch with your local x, r group and offerings, bring your support and your talent, your talent, your skills, your knowledge to the cause. i think it needs people to recognize that some measure of disruptive protest will have to happen and we're going to get our politicians to make change the change we need at the pace we need. all right,

so i guess one thing that i would say straight away is that one of the things that's really clear from the way the execution rebellion have been communicating is that they're not just communicating through their work or, or communicating through their actions. so when we see people go out and take part in civil disobedience, is to break the law willingly. peacefully. what we actually see then is somebody who is acting in a way which is very out of the ordinary way, makes them think, well, what we're not at this driven somebody to the point that they're willing to sacrifice themselves in this way. poor cause. and then we start to kind of listen to what they're actually saying and what they're explaining is that they're really terrified because of what's happening. and the governments are taking anything like the action necessary. and so we start to understand, actually these people just like you and me, a lot of them talking about their professional background to their doctors that are

a lecture is there of teachers and all sorts of different people with grandparents and families. and so all are on the street and just trying to talk to people and get them to understand that the way that we carry on with our day to day lives, though that the problem is, is profit, right? the fact that we all just carry on an emergency, and so we just carry with business usual and just keep recreating what they're trying to challenge. and so by disrupting the day to day, the game just to actually stop and, and think about the fact that carrying on with the day to day as normal is actually leading us to disaster. i think also that this week has been very much a function of talking with the public and having conversations not just disrupting there was a very pick pink table. we know we've all seen that on the news, but there were hundreds of small paint tables at those think tables. we were having

one on one crisis talks. ah, people were very, very ready to come up and chat with us and talk about their fears. tell us what they liked and didn't like about the ex or movement, and we share the ideas that advances are thinking. and it definitely, i believe expands the movement. so i think x r has a place to be. danny, i want to move the young tactics of x all into what the content, the real message has been full. this impossible rebellion protests have a look here on my laptop. is it from x of twitter account, stop or new fossil fuel investment? immediately? i'm just gonna click for a couple of these pictures. this is one of the key messages from the protests in the past couple of days. jenny, tell us more. well, that's our new 4th demand, and it's critically important. we want to see we want the spigot of oil to be turned off for that to happen. we're also going to have to turn off the top of

money which flows into the oil business. the oil companies, in fact, right now have intentions of projections that they've published. suspend fast quantities in the next 5 years. specifically, exxon wants to send 20 to 25000000000 a year and further exploration and development b p. 's plan and then $53000000000.00 in the next 5 years. so where are they going to get that money? they don't have it. they need to go to the city to, to finance, to obtain loans, and other forms to finance the keep going. if we can pressure the financial institutions to not profile at that, but as then i think that's going to be an essential part of how we move forward. you may ask, how are we going to get the financial companies to do that? well, we are lucky, we have a thing called the bank of england here at the bank of england can be, should be regulating banks. they should be understanding that the amount of risk in

the, in the fossil fuel business now is such that they should be either put a cap on the amount of lending that banks are able to do to carbon intensive industries. or at least make it more expensive for them to do that. so that's kind of the pattern of what happens. and we think there's an enormous opportunity in london. this is one of the 2 great centers of finance in the world. and it's one where we have, as i said, a clear regulator who is independent and can bring some sanity to the situation. all right, if i'm going to put some questions toward a few from youtube audience, because you say you want to start this conversation, the puppet, you absolutely have done that on this show. let me put this to you are, excuse me, sorry for putting in to you. this is mic asked at bella. she says, and she's watching right now. is there any hope left for this tonic? you're climate guys. absolutely. in some ways, the people on the street,

the hope that's left for the planet, i think for me, we need to understand that we are facing lots of different future possibilities. and those possibilities are based on the choices that we make here and now. and if we carry on choosing to fossil fuels and we are heading to a very, very bleak future. but if we can stop burning fossil fuels as quickly as possible, then we can still have an awful lot. so really the choices that we're making day today and i'll tell the fissions and finance industries are making all around us. what shaping the future us to come in. and we really have to shake the conversation and make it so clear that we are not prepared to accept full time toward the last scenario. why we just really like to add is what's really care about extinction rebellions message to start over. so you'll investment now,

is that exactly what the site is or saying? that's what it says in the international energy agencies reports. that's what it says in the i p cc reports. so it's a very simple, clear and scientifically accurate science. i want to move on because i've got lots of questions. i want to share them amongst all of all of the guests. so this one from you from s p to 17, to watching civil disobedience is all this ever brought social change? look at the suffragettes, civil rights, etc. nobody wants to cause disruption, but it's all. but if, if it's all the governments will listen to, there is no choice. we put quick response to that. no choice. you've got to be disruptive. yeah, absolutely. it is very, very clear, and if we think forward, if we think forward to say 2050, what will history say about it? thanks. rebellion, it's a no brainer. of course history will say the people here at extension 1000000000

may not be very popular at the moment. but you've got to remember that most of the king was called the most dangerous man in america, that the suffrage is at the time were incredibly unpopular man. so civil mon violence still disobedience works and it's not always popular her appetite, but it judged as successful in retrospect. only scenario on which things rebellion don't come out of this is heroes. if there's no history needs to be written, the tool is good. if we lose so badly, no one got to look back on the central jenny, i've got one more thought from you, and this comes from again from youtube. thank you very shortly. and today's a really catch of our initial point. when we started off the show, i b met fly. what is the end goal of the extension? rebellion just briefly jenny, what do you want? oh, i want a better world. i want a world where we contain to a reasonable degree, the climate devastation that's going on have to answer this question with being the

grandmother and wanting my grandchildren to have a reasonable world to live and want them to be able to have present children. and that's that, that's what extension rebellion is trying to accomplish. along with many other organizations we need we need a future that we can be pleased to walk into. i'm good to go here to it's really row no report. i'm just going to show it here. my laptop, a guess i know, you know i p. c. c. climate change 2021. the physical science basis, and i click on one more. the phrase that was used in this report code read us scientists warn of worsening global warming. i just want to bring in one more voice and this is to need his voice, who talks about knowing about the why it's knowing about the reports that we've had one after another after another. and then the way that governments react. let's have a look. let's have

a listen. the pcp report just came out showing the action we have right now determine whether or not be about the impact of the kind of crisis. and yeah, here in the a, for example, the government are continuing to explore new oil fields such as the common oil field, continuing the paycheck around project, despite the devastating environmental consequences and continuing to pull huge stuff to be entity, intensive, nice to industry. despite the fact that the industry produces moving truck got emissions and the transport factor out of out the negative consequences to people, particularly local communities, the most vulnerable population nationally, globally o. r and jenny, governments know this, then no jeep. it's why we, it's why we code red room k. so there's been unbelievable pulling in action on this for such a long time. we're now moving to

a moment when that could change, which is the cock at all. go the big climate conference in november. but i'm going to say something on current, unpopular potentially now and controversial, which is that that conference is virtually bound to fail. it will fail us as they failed us previously, even the parents agreement in 2015, which was an amazing diplomatic achievement, is a paper tiger. and we're on course for if we stick to the parents agreement, where on course, even then the civilizational meltdown. so the bottom line is that there are no adults, there is no capillary writing to the rescue. and really a crucial message that i would like to give to everyone watching tonight who is thinking, what can i do, or what, what should we do in this situation? is we need to act on this together and we need to act on it with our expectation that our governments are going to save us and to the rescue because they are not,

they are planning to fail us. they are planning to continue. the failure which has been end to make for such a long time. and as we go into why, why do you say that they are trying to, is it because they're so much money in fossil fuels, that there is no way that government can walk away from money and investment in developing fossil fuels because of the money. right. it's telling me that it's partly because of the media. i mean, this is a very unusual program where it thinks from rebellion is getting really quite a fair hearing. usually my experience and others experience, i'm sure is it extensions. belgium gets attacked and, and hounded and criticized. the media itself largely a huge set of corporations which are, which are owned in many cases by the super rich or by those who have interest connected to fossil fuels. even now the or of course is not immune from that, but i say the area to get the range not ready for him to watch

a lot. go blush right now. all right, jenny, what we code read. you've been like now we were yelling and screaming on what's stopping traffic because nobody has been not enough. people have been listening. well, i think that's right. the message i would have to everybody listening is join us. rupert's right. we need more people in this movement, and i do not believe that the government is going to give us an easy way out of this. the system that created the circumstances were in that that's not a system that's going to get us out of the circumstance. i don't believe without immense pressure, so we need a lot more people involved in this fight. i think it's ironic that the government is so tied to the fossil fuel industry in that that industry is going to die. it may take a little while it may take a long while, but that's not where the future is. that's not where the future of investment

returns or it's not where the in the future of jobs or of the the alternative energy world is going to need vast investment over the next 50 years. and that's what the government should be focusing on. i so that you've got to save us, right? you feel the climate scientists, he's learned how to communicate with the public. so you've got, we've got the silver bullet are instead of us, are you going to do that? well, i wouldn't disagree with anything that is being said, but i think one of the things that i think hadn't been put into that conversation so far is the fact that actually one of the things that been holding us back is the fact that we, we felt alone in feeling that we care about these issues, but no one else does because we haven't seen that reflected back to us partly because of what we're the media. but actually if we start having conversations go off friends and family and all our colleagues and explain to them how we're feeling about climate change and how we ought to see action and our ideas for what

solutions might look like. then we can start changing this kind of social, social, cultural discussion and break because to be again talking about climate change and what you find people really think that they're alone in being consent about this. but what you find is, but when you to bring it up as a conversation with your friends and family, that most people are really relieved that someone is finally brought up. because they've been home worrying about to thinking about it too. i just only when we start talking about it, but we can come together and start coming up with solution making decisions about how we might go for a protest or might set up a little clean energy company in our area or whatever it is. but the point is that we need to talk about this all the time every day. so if you haven't talked about climate change today, thought the not a straight after this program. i thank you so much. right? yeah, he's right. i think it gets the last word replaced if that's okay, because i want to tell people where to find all of you find,

find climate activate. if you look on my laptop right here, this is extinction. rebellion they are, they will over the place all over. so show they have here they all on twitter. this is dr. allen, teary. he's on twitter, and finally, a professor rupert read. thank you. thank you. guess really appreciate you. youtube love your questions. i will see you next time. thanks for watching everybody take. ah, [000:00:00;00] use the native news as it breaks? the storms spared the worst, her long island, which fear to direct it, but it's real. whipped up high wind and high wave with detailed coverage of

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