the voyage is the solo to 1981 recording the visitors. 2 tracks have been released. the head of it for the november virtual version of them will begin to say with a cold that's in london next year. and you can find that much more about that story and also we're covering here on an algebra dot com updated throughout the day. i do want you to visit with me so i will run the reminder of all top stories. police and new zealand have shot dead man after he stop 6 people at a supermarket in what the government's calling and i saw inspired attack or thought he say the man was a rank and national who was on a security watch list. 3 of the injured are in a critical condition. what happened today was despicable. it was hateful,

it was wrong. was carried out by an individual, not a faith, not a culture, not in its necessity, but an individual person who was grouped by ideology that is not supported here by anyone or any community. he alone carries the responsibility for these ex. let that be with a judgment, forms fighting and got his thought is escalating between the taliban and a resistance group in the bunch here valley north of the capital campbell. it's been the only province to hold out against the taliban despite being a tiny surrounded japan prime minister. yes, she the sooner says he won't re seek election as leader of the governing party this month. it sets the stage for his replacement after just one year and office suger took over after former leadership the ave resigned last september citing pull health he was president joe biden has promised federal helpful northeastern states . after remnants of hurricane ida hit the region with record breaking rains. so the

flooding is reported over 400 kilometer stretch from maryland to new york. at least 45 people have died. a clean of opperation is underway across northern and central . spain are just very flash flooding on wednesday. the cancel and coastal town of al cannel was one of the places was hit with several calls swept into the mediterranean. a british man who's a former eiffel fighter has pleaded guilty to 8 criminal charges, including the murder of us journalists and aid workers. alexander county was part a full member eiffel, so known as the beatles. their accused of beheading hostages in northern syria, cuz he plead guilty to killing german james solely. and stephen, sort of as well as aid workers, keila, mueller, and peter catholic. those will headline $50.00 mornings and half. now next it's inside story to stay with me. the conflict between the if you can government and the regional take, great people with the ration fund has killed thousands and internally displaced

more than 2000000 over the past 7 months. 350000 people in the region are facing famine. according to the united nation, which says that our vision is being used as a weapon for those who managed to cross the border, say it's not because they have improved back home. they say to continue to be targeted because of their lives. and many properties are being reported and all becomes taken refuge conditions. here are the thousands of afghans have left the country and many more are still waiting to get out. but while some nations and welcomes and others are trying to keep them out. so what options do african refugees have and who should look after them? this is inside a

hello there and welcome to the program. i'm the start, the ok. now as the taliban works to for government, it says will be inclusive. it faces several challenges. the united nation has warned that up to half a 1000000 africans could leave their country by the end of this year, and governments in the region are bracing for a possible refugee crisis. the european union says it will help those countries, hearst, the refugees. but some european deed is all concerned about a repeat of the 2015 syrian refugee emergency. and now a number of western nations have been trying to find temporary solutions and 3rd countries until the afghans are processed and relocated. but pakistan and other bordering states have one been not prepared to taken more people. now i spoke to the pakistani ambassador to the united nations about that situation on their board with kind of started last week. this is what he told me. many questions to see lodge. those are on our orders in order to other neighbors and be just not in

a position to take more refugees because we have already got 3000000 african refugees. so it's a big concern for us. so we have to deal with situations, we have to deal with the terrorist terrorism threat. and of course, we're hoping that as soon as the country in the home and inclusive government, we will be able to engage with them and to move forward on steps to stabilize. and it's stabilized. we or many of those who have flown out of afghanistan were taken to centers setup in several countries, including germany. spain is becca st. on and cut off. and many of those you left couple on us evacuation slides remain at the database near the catherine capital, doha, they're waiting for the papers to be processed before going on to their next destination . while uganda, mexico, columbia, andrew wanda, as well as

a number of other countries, are also temporarily hosting african refugees. let's take a look at some of the numbers now and where some of the evacuations are actually going. more than 123000 people will el, lifted by us forces on the coalition partners off to the taliban take over. the u. s. said it throughout nearly 80000 civilians from couple and others. more than 73500. what either afghans or other foreign nationals, the u. k for its part has thrown out more than 15000 people, some 8000 of them were scans. well, this current crisis comes on top of the 2200000 african refugees are already in neighboring countries. and 3500000 people who are forced to flee their homes within afghanistan borders. ah, now before we introduce our panel today, let's speak to nor i'll how can see me. he's the founder and director of the afghanistan and central asian association. that's an organization that's helping

african refugees. he also flat off kind of stone himself back in 190-1909. he joins us now from london. mister the c. me. thank you so much for your time. i know it's a very busy moment for you and your organization. i know a number of the refugees that you're currently working with a country and quarantine before they're properly resettled. and can you give us a sense of what you're hearing from them? so for the past 2 weeks since call was captured on we'd be, we'd so many or maybe thousands of people from are going to living in the united kingdom who are coming to the center to get some information on garden to bidding their farm. it is going on because they are very emotional and i'm anxious about vision, what's going on and on. but then at the center we have is thought that more than 2 for good food contina of clothes and donations. so there's no kind

of outside land where 1000000 the new are people leaving now did you mention those people who just come from up that is in current teen oscillation, the really big lead and the next maybe one week of time. and then again, we've begun by be because of the high demand for the services that the new people should be given a call. i'm terry. say yourself flat, i've gone on some decades back and you talked about the anxiety that you were hearing from some of the families. i know this must be a very traumatic time for them. what was some of your own concerns that your priorities when you left the country? you know, i left we, we were formerly more children on the back of almost one to 2 years ago in 1994. and again, it was to escape the war,

understand that all of on it was impossible to leave and that it's all about whether you didn't have space or on you couldn't get outside the home. you couldn't walk farm any member including your wife. so i defend accuser and torturing this one of the big problems that i've done and so under the thought of on. and then secondly, we have the need or intervention in 2001 where we started a new law on that. we had so much attention from the rules, the infrastructure, and some of the few activities that i'm receiving. this huge improvement in the woman dollars. i'm the human i've been, i've done this on that's why i was, i was talking about the importance of support the been given to i'm going to boy brief and i want to draw it. i do want to

ask you about the people that you are still in touch with enough canister on at the moment. the ones who haven't managed to actually leave yet. what are they telling you about their plans now, especially given what you're telling me about your concern that people are going to know they are hoping for a safe passage. i'm going to many quoted due to non german. when i was hearing the news, the government, i was walking by hard to establish our problem. i was never in companies and this is the only hope that the people are now looking for. nor l. harkness see me there, the founder and director of the afghanistan and central asian association. thanks so much for your time, so we do wish you all the best with your work. thank you very much. thank. well

that's not bring in our guests and push all we have sharon barrage, he's a political analyst covering pakistan. and paris france was a man, a professor of environmental jeer, politics and migration dynamics at the paris institute of political studies. and in time paula, uganda, we have marian to rabo, a human rights activist and politician. thank you all for joining us today. now i do want to start with where we are now that all of these official ellis to vendors, there are moves that teams to get couple airport open with some category and tucker support. and i think the taliban has promised, but i've gotten nationals who have valid travel documents from another country. they will be allowed to leave from what are you confident that we can hold the taliban to their promises? will people be allowed to go? no, i'm not going to get it all and i'm afraid that the taliban will make sure that nobody can escape the country and stuff. my biggest, here at the moment is that there are still 1000 tens of thousands of i'm again,

we're desperate to need a country and i am very concerned that only the most privilege only the most connected will be able to leave the country. whereas the other will remain in the country. i think that this is a threat to the really for all doors will be in the country. and clearly the process should have begun way earlier. but what we need to do is to establish se carried out so that the people went through with gave the benny been redeem a get do so. well, i want to look at just how many more people were potentially looking at and how they might try to flee. now to get a better sense of dealing with, let's look at a map of afghanistan. now ask ganz who are wanting to leave the country, have very limited options. the taliban apparently controlled all the mainland crossings. you can see them here on the map, dotted around the border and orange. it also controls the airports. now the un has urged gonna stones neighbors to keep their borders open to refugees, but is becca stone for one has closed its main crossing point,

citing security no plans at the moment. and we open at pakistan, which has the longest border with afghanistan, has also said it won't accept refugees now. sure as your emphasis with some 50 kilometers from the border. i believe i see that last friday to africa and we're actually reported he killed by pakistani security forces up the talk and border crossing after trying to enter legal. what's the situation like on the border now? i thank you very much for having me on the show on has the longest border that has, you know, line gone in the 19501890 the pre. 5 numerous, why the border can be crossed, fucking funding, defense things in order for the last. but then a full of things to goes on. major one is when i and then for charlotte and other they involved in germany and

also mothers open trade because i've got to find a latin country and it depends on, you know, commodities for bugging. so the water is open trade but not both until recently, even until yesterday i've got to be able to cross the other main. crossing tillman in, but i just thought from it and they would come. but today, bobby found interior minister as their dad would be loving. so we have to see because i, what we can see here, there can be sometimes different, but it's a thing different be very, very, very fluid situation in a number of countries. now trying to get as many people out as possible as quickly as possible. i see

a number of countries did ask for favors from 3rd countries to house people temporarily. i think you can to has already what is it 1500000 refugees. the largest of any country in africa, mary, and i know a lot of those are primarily from south to don, democratic republic of congo, but now they're adding afghans to that mix. how do you get to feel about that? well, i would say foods, even though it's been a very we'll come in country like you had said that we did buy a country that was good and we as a nation have your conference. so we do understand what it means to be in now will . and to leave for your home country. so we basically knew going to, we have a generous, i would say for foreign policy. however, there is some skepticism about why we have to, you know, recommendations, why we have to come perhaps refugees from across another question. then

they have been people who have raised funds and we do understand the situation and it's been quite bad but people have consent. that why, why now, why would the government of uganda accept to have people who are miles and miles away in a different quin connect? and given the relationship the strain relationship that the government to be gone to has had we with the government to be of the united states of america to nothings in the killings that took place in the 2021 election was particularly one political party being really which hunted and most supported still missing up to now that is the nation any but for so many have created but you know, you're going to just trying to clean up smith because right before the announcement of the refugees coming back,

the states did go on media to kind of get and criticize a security forces for tiny to torture. so they are claims speculations within the public that she is try but they are the govern. government did accept this just meant that relationship and maybe put text themselves to use that. can you give them the she would clearly have not. i'll come back to you in a moment about that marian because i do want to bring in francois. i want to also bring up that math again because there is this very, very long border with iran that, that i've got astonishes as regarded as fairly porous. many refugees, i know we're hoping to use it to cross and then travel on to turkey and then onto europe. greece is already fortified it's, it's very big war and anticipation of those most movements. and frankly, given how politically charged all of this is, how is all of that going over,

especially after what happens in 2015? i'm afraid this is going very, very badly. and indeed, as you just recall, everyone in europe is very much concern and very much i read that the, as i cried, this doesn't fall into doesn't 15, it will repeat again. and therefore, most you've been lead us today view our gun refugees are put on health grid for euro, which is like the ultimate threat of that we see people themselves in here as a potential threat and danger for europe. and therefore, we're in a situation really well. knock on 3 is really willing to atlanta. i've done reviews, european countries. i told them that they taking the brand of the burden. whereas if you look at the numbers worldwide, there are roughly 2600000. i've got worldwide that's roughly 11 percent of the total number of reviews and only 30 percent of these refugees are being welcome to

being hosted in europe as we speak right. no, but we need to keep in mind that i've done reviews are most of the largest group of a valid peak of in some european countries like france and belgium. and that trend of increase over the past few years. and obviously will continue to increase in the coming weeks and in the coming months. but really, the, everybody situation right now is that most likely to remain in the country because they have nowhere, nowhere else to go and know the country is really seemed willing to accept them. which mean that the flows of refugees will be decided and raised by muslim unless you're out or other countries possibly could come up with a solution and resubmit my scheme with your credo. then we'll arrange these to read up. and that means that government will have absolutely no control

over that from mentioned some security concerns that i know that's being also cited by the pakistani government as a reason to not take african refugees at the moment and there were a number of releases by the taliban of pakistani medicines, as, as they advanced across the country, how real are those security threats at the moment? and is that actually jeopardizing the humanitarian situation on the board that all refugees paying for? really some, some political dynamics and other concerns or as yes i can find me. government is concerned about as dimensions of the military were relieved under the equipment and the minute they were fighting the bike in the past. and the things that they could, you know, use and standing, even though the short little ones that big

will not allow anyone to be used again against any of that. but here they would like to bring in the session. and i would like to bring the, bring up a point. i think it's too early to say. hundreds of houses will come from a gun. it all depends on the behavior on the conduct, the attitude of the on. so they have be behaving differently better than when they were in their 90. so we had just to be to see if a thousands of people wouldn't lead people who wanted to leave on august. but mostly i've been populations in couple of the people who are one of the western governments natal and they will appear in the wrong way. but we don't

know people from whom we'll leave it on the bank on the as i said on the, on the of the valuable, actively people who was likely to be the could be, will be ethnic minorities such as she was a big party. i don't think like many who will come will lead from, especially from the rural areas. yes. people might leave on. it tried to come to bark and thought because it is an english speaking country officer like his english and is about 20, is the young people who are trained in the big english language skills. i feel and if there are not many economic opportunities, weatherbug would not all be challenges with the fee pace. now ignore with

challenges. then bills kill what goes economic mike there might come to pocket because they got to go to the central asian country. and i don't think marian, i'm sorry, i don't want to run out of time. and i do want to ask about the economics behind the resettlement as well of these refugees. marian, i know, obviously you're going to struggle with tourism under the pandemic that we've been living through. and it has been some speculation that obviously the u. s. is putting the bill for the refugees who are coming to you ganga. is that to think big consideration for the government and in choosing to do this it could be because right now i would say that the could be didn't quite by gate key does in kampala town locked up. so because of the high taxes and then i give meant was that we, we have been locked down, we do not have money and the

a to input the higher taxes are not how we make business is going to be really struggling and marketing. and we're so when, when the question when you're going to hide about this do was going to fit the bill and the was you going to government quickie give me just said the us, it's putting the bill for yes, it was a big consideration because i don't think the, the government right now has the capacity to take an extra g, shirley with the one of the people from us. can you spend the security risk that it comes with? all that about that, of course, for me. so i don't want to let you go without asking you about some of the other concerns here that that african refugees are facing. it's not just conflicts in the taliban. there is also a severe drought going on. massive concerns about food and security. and i also know that you work on climate issues. do you think potentially that political

refugees are given more privacy in these dialogues that we're having about asylum seekers rather than other issues that might be related to, to the economics and, and secure an instability around climate issues? is that been given enough thought here? really not enough, and really i don't want to make a year out. he stating that someone would be more deserving. done protection from another li, believe refugees are completely deserving protection. but the reality is that worldwide, there are roughly 3 times more people are displayed by these out the wrong of her again, than people displayed by war and violence. which means that when we look at these 2 men of protection that we have at hand, clearly many of them are a day that you look at the contemporary really div across the migration. and the tuition is that a vital is being restricted every day. be wherever it should be allowed to do all

the categories. and i think that most countries, right, no outcomes then that they can isolate themselves by building wars and fences. and yet, the reality is, is that more and more people will be migrating into the government that we can only facto this issue through international cooperation rather than through building board and fashion, which will not deter people from migrating these walls. and fans will only reassure people was already within these wall, but will only make migration mostly and more dangerous. and we're having these conversations now about temporary refugees potentially, but also remains to be seen just how temporary that is. i see all of you nodding in agreement about how we need to expand these definitions and expand the help that we all given to giving to, to various different asylum seekers. not only from afghanistan but elsewhere. and i

do really want to thank you for all the time that you've given us today and all the work that you are doing. so let's say thank you then to all of our guests, that's nor i'll how can a see me, sharon per rochester francois. i'm in marietta rather, and we do really wish you all the best with was that you are doing. thank you to for watching. you can see this program again anytime by visiting our website that's al jazeera dot com. and for further discussion, do go to our facebook page that facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. and do remember, you can always join this, the discussion with us on twitter. our handle is at a inside story. now, for me and associates and the whole team here, bye for now. me you know, stroke, regional children as young as 10 being arrested and locked up. in the 1st of 2

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