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stage and launch became one of the biggest successes in the west end of london ever . and somebody said, let's make a movie out of that. became the highest grossing movie in the u. k. after the time ever made about half a 1000000000 at the box office. so they had another movie about as well. in other words, it's just the gift that keeps on giving because remember when singles used to mean something and getting some one to charge me something between 83 and 87 or whatever . they have 7 or 8 single of a 7 or 8 of those went to number one of the charts the like they're just part of who we are. just remember when i made songs, people believe that the songs were about them. this thing now there's about 80900 people working on us from george lucas's industrial project. it's all technological wizardry at the state of the art merchant videos from black stop. and david boy were made that guy's doing that. the guy who made the 6 part series hon on tv stack guys produced us like it's a really big team and they will get this right. there's no question about the, the hello again. the headlines on al jazeera fighting and have
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gone, astonish, escalating between the taliban and a resistance group in the pens, your valley in north of the capital capital. it's been the only providence to hold out against taliban rule despite being entirely surrounded. the european union has set out conditions for ties with the taliban. the you wants to have what it calls a presence in capital to oversee more evacuations. if security measures are in place. but the foreign policy chief, joseph burrell, says that doesn't mean the block will recognize the taliban, have been basket to come chill on, coordinate in the context with a tele wrench. with a telegram with the new government vanish then, including with jain, you presence ink of all coordinated with his dinner night service. if the security conditions allow for it from that we should support the
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departure of nation knows to be a nation. not that i still there and i've gotten and risk the u. k says it's boosting aid for i've gone to sans neighbors as they deal with refugees fleeing the country from across speaking in pakistan's capital as long about where he'd hell talk with the government. police in new zealand have shot and killed a man after he's found 6 people at a supermarket. and what the government's calling an eyesore inspired a time already said a man was a sri lankan national, who was on a security watch list. us president joe biden has promised federal help for northeastern states after remnants of hurricane ida hit the region with record breaking range. severe flooding is reported over 400 kilometer stretch from maryland to new york. at least 45 people have died. those are the headlines. talk to al jazeera is coming up. next. news.
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news. news. news. i. the fall via kofi, began her political career after the fall of the taliban government in late 2001. her focus promoting the right to education of girls and protecting children from violence, exploitation, and abuse. she has survived several assassination attempts, but not even that stopped her from passionately advocating for the rights of women and her country. coffee was born in the north eastern by the shawn region of afghanistan in 1975. she had a difficult childhood, rejected by her family for her gender. she had to overcome many obstacles. yet
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despite these challenges, she rose to become a scanner send 1st female deputy speaker of parliament. some even considered her a potential candidate for the afghan presidency. now with the taliban back in control. and in the wake of the u. s. withdrawal coffee left the country and is now hosted in car, but it's her fight for the rights of african women. over afghanistan's former deputy speaker of parliament, vehicle feet talks to al jazeera ah vehicle, the former deputy speaker of parliament. thank you for talking to sarah. thank you for having i've kind of sun, i've seen conflict for more than 40 years from the soviet invasion in the late 1970, to the rise of the taliban in the 1990 s. and of course, the us invasion of 2001. you have personally witness all these changes. now that
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us troops are gone. the democratically elected president asher are gone and fled the country. and the taliban has taken over once again. what is your assessment? unfortunately, what has happened lately in upon the sun is unbelievable for most of the population that live in that country. after 20 years of blood and treasure investment, not only by international friends and partners, but also by the people of atlanta, son who have been in the front of protecting you know, liberties and gains to see everything clubs in, in such a rapid manner was was heartbreaking. personally for me as well because i was part of all of this. i was in a way contributed to everything that has happened in the last 20 years in upon a son to see everything collapse. so rapidly i think was was something that was terrifying for most of the people in upon the front. i think
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a lot of mistakes by international community, enough kind of sundays as to where we are. i would firstly, you know, put the blame on international community, especially when i could states because they were the one who actually favors the president shop honey in 2014. he did the wind election. it was his, you know, the other side of the law was the winner. but they, in a political agreement, they gave him the election. he was favor in the 1st 5 years. this was one of the most corrupt government power centric. and 20092020 again to hit the elections and he was elected president would very, very low percentage of voters that indicated that he is not popular, but the world continue to support him. and i think, you know, lack of vision, lack of leadership, corruption, all of that result in class of the situation. what do you make of president connie
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leaving the way he did? i feel sorry for somebody who claim to, to present nation and leaving without even, you know, facing the real trip, the color. but we're not in column. there was talks that there will be a political, the often to establish an interior set up on as a result of fish that he will leave. i think if he only there to stay another few weeks, we would have not faced the situation of collapse as we know. and i think it was because of his, you know, mistake of leaving the country the way he did, and rumors of taking millions of dollars with him, of motivated a lot of people also to go to the airport here from day one. i had the view that he is a baseless politician, that he does not have strong route. and upon a son, he came with a back and i have,
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i was listening to my speeches into parliament the other day. i exactly said this in 2014, when he was elected, i said those will come with a bag will leave with a bag. and exactly, that's what, that's what happened. he actually came with a back and the lift applied to some and miserable situation where the bug. have you talked to president connie since he left? no. i don't want to talk to him. there is no reason to talk to him. he must be embarrassed of what he does. you are part of the negotiating team representing the then afghan government at the intra afghan talks, you yourself met with the taliban in moscow and oh ha. that talks clearly failed. so what went wrong? i have been engage with caliber now for 2 years because i knew that it's totally to negotiation. an engagement that we could present a different kind of some the color that should adopt i was because i'm in the fate and not the government. this was a team that was diverse in anyways, are presenting different groups and political community up up on the some. i think
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one of the things that the americans, that was, they talked were taliban had an agreement with them without engaging the state off . i've gotten a son that already put ton about in a victorious mold. and especially after the, you know, the, the us president announcement that he will withdraw without any conditions. which was in contradiction to what the agreement said that we had him into the taliban. and the united states, following the u. s. taliban deal everyone and hope that there was going to be a clear path to peace. why did it never happen? i think that before i think the reason that we, we could not get to a speed that was required and took a result oriented negotiation was because in the door agreement to tulsa on time, it was clearly mentioned that my appeal to 2021 after the political settlement is
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agreed upon the united states forces relieve, however, when the elections in the united says happen on the government assess west in a situation which only did there was a escalating violence in atlanta. some war was already active in many provinces. people in our army and security forces were extremely tired, not only of the war, but also the, the corruption. they were not paid for months. they have not had the chance to meet their family, visit their family for months. so all of that combination of all of that unfortunately, resulted to a situation where a military takeover was an option. how do you assess the quick taliban takeover? it took them about 10 days to take control of the country and the us troops were still present. right, because nobody has been in many places,
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the police and army actually said under themselves to them. and in some other places, the security forces, flea without even tell about prison. in some of the places that i present, ton of them came a day or 2 days later, the security forces lead the country. i think because as i said before production but also because moodily our troops were so connected and dependent to international forces, especially the us forces that when the united states forces fleet from mcgraw base, which was the main base of the u. s. and upon the sun the same day, i remember i wasn't on the same day a lot of forces from my area politic. patrick has done that indicated how dependent they were trained. so that lack of mood on a dependency was the reason for corruption and lack of course leadership from the cover because he was
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a president which was only centered to palace didn't know what's going on in the country, was not able to present a vision for, for our forces or for the country was not able to like, be connected. and all of this, i think to the very up takeover of taliban, there was a disconnect between the central government and cobble and the rest of the country . absolutely. of de la de la, the former chief executive officer of afghan. a son insisted on the show back in july that the republic was going to prevail. now have you talked to him since the taliban takeover? yes, i was in cobble. we had the chance to meet a couple of times he wasn't cobble with some other politicians that are public will prevail in a way. i still insist in what he said, because i think over the past few years in atlanta, some to the buildings have been the infrastructure as have been boat, etc. but one of the things that people do not report about is the transformation of
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generation. a generation that wants to live in harmony and peace in a prosperous and bitter life. in upon a son. they want to have a say in the future. the 1st they tell about came 2 days later, a small group of women came to the street protesting for asking for right now that was a very small number, but compared to the fact that back in 2001 on 1909. this was impossible, that's a good indication of, you know, the transform generation. people will continue to appear on media. i'll do the obvious, were close, but women still wanted to go to the office. i have seen many women who went to the offices, but they were closed. that is an indication of, you know, they do to people as power, the people's participation and they're wanting to be heard and to be part of the political process. so this is a new generation, it is many say it's
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a new taliban as well. do you think there to will be able to coexist? that is no other way than quick distance. the country already has been in war for over 4 decades. most of us, unfortunately, are born in what i grew up in war. i'm probably will die and this is not true. it's a come to ton of natural resources. i was young population, so much resources. there's so many, you know, things that could contribute to a better world. so i think the only chance is quite existent, accepting the fact that we can have a political defensive. political difference should not be the reason to kill as a human being on august 16th, president biden says that american troops cannot and should not be fighting a war and dying in a war that afghan forces are not willing to fight for themselves. what do you say to that impressive to impressive?
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we are a nation that i have all the the and always talk for our legacy and problem. i've got a son is probably paid the highest price standing against these for an occupations . however, i guess you know, the in 2001, when do you know the us and other need to all i can to i've got a son no one enough going to set invited them. they came because their own security was at risk under list because they thought their security is not anymore at risk. leaving a lot of playing a miserable situation. that we are witnessing people trying to queue and put themselves themselves into plain knowing that they will die. 100 person is an example of how this flipped the country is and how miserable the situation of the people are. so they came because they wanted to come, they left without consulting the people up up about us. and now my fear would be is
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that upon us, so once again is not used for another military extremist groat that will eventually pose a threat to the world security. i hope not. but from what i see going, trip, you know, lack of rule of law lawlessness. all this key optic situation only the paved the way for the growth of another minute chicks to use groups. we know that i said, for instance, already committed to attacks at the airport very close to american forces. what we're message to president biden be to present by then. i guess everyone, all the politicians, they try to prioritize their own people. that's right. he did prioritize what he taught, his version of america 1st was an american interest 1st. but i think by abundance upon a son, the real trip that the u. s. security. a national security could be at risk sooner
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or later is there. so my method would be they should continue to work with people up, up on the sun. they should continue to support the people of the sun because it is not only about us, it's about us and the world culture host that the interest can talk. so says taliban officials at the request of the u. s. and has played an active role in helping over 40000 and afghans the country. how do you see the role color has played in afghanistan in recent years? could have been increasingly engaged in the region of politics. i guess the fact that now they have been hostile when they go station for a year. and now the difficult times, they are hosting a lot of guns whose life are addressed. if they stay home is an indication of the fact that they want to be relevant and i think, you know,
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going forward. i think they will even play more important role and there is a room for them to play more important role in reconstruction. i would say are development of humanitarian aid to the people of hop on the sun. now i don't know what will the future government look like? know what i get to the stage knows what ideal situation would be if we have a government which is broad base which is inclusive for your preventative of the you know, the people on a thunder transformed innovation of up on a sun and on the basis of the democracy, the basis of people's choice. and if we have such a government, i think the country a government and his people will be more relevant because then we will have a stronger partnership in terms of, you know, using each other's connectivity for each others interested. but i, we are, there are some risks, real risk, the probably tolerable will not be willing to accept quick this sense and power
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shedding. i didn't meant in a way to it is truly the preventative and meaningful participation of the rest of the community, including women. and that's a case, i think kind of the complain, important role in using this leverage to push out i thought about for the continued reform and your policies and listening to the people, especially to the woman. well, let's now talk about women. as you mentioned that about, of course, in your life's work into your 2012 memoir, the favorite daughter, you talk about the hardship of being a woman and scan a son. and you describe how your parents rejected you because of your gender and how the day you were born. you were left out to die in the sun. you survived and became afghanistan's 1st female deputy speaker of parliament. what kept you going? what was your motivation? the fact that i have suffered so much as a woman, a my mother suffer so much as a woman, and i have fit every woman that carried the burden of what's going on in the
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country kept me moving forward. what i have seen during the time, the 1st from the taliban in power gave me the reason to come to politics. although my father was a member of parliament. but this was not what i want it to be. but what i have gone to, as a woman, gave me the reason to change things for others. because i know that it's actually the woman who always have to pay the highest price. it's the woman and the goes. if it's was they have to be lose the life loved ones. if it is these, lose the opportunity, it's always the woman that have to pay the 1st i have just, you know, being in contact have met the woman who are this, but it's hopeless. they don't know what will happen to them. most of their were dependent on salary. they were the bread winner of this comment is the last that a lot of them actually are intensified situation hiding. why,
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why should the woman on the pay all of this? and he said, circumstances i'm situation is heartbreaking. i think the world should wake up. why should we always pay for everything that goes wrong in that country? there's some people who believe that telephones roll this time around will be different. and in fact, there are some who believe that the taliban should be given a chance. what's your take? will they need to prove that they are different? i have discussed with some of the leadership and in here and couple. they say yes, gave us time. we will be different, but when it comes to this port, soldiers, all commanders on the 2nd layers of the tunnel and they do the same thing that they were doing 20 years back in the provinces for incense in the heat of the summer. when to capture some of the provinces, they ask women young students goes to where can we have trucks? can you imagine if that's in that he just if a woman is what look and plus work is not slummy, it's a, it's not just a job,
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it's more than a hit job. or for instance, in many places they keep saying that go cannot go to or any woman cannot go out without a male company. and i think they have to, the leadership really has to do an important homework and making sure, 1st of all, that whatever genetic statements i prefer is they have and policy papers, the foot soldiers from top to the ground respect. so it doesn't become just a media statement, but actually a practice in underground do the taliban that you've been in contact with. have any plans or ideas about how to include women in their government? well, that's what we hope. we hope that they, they should not, and they cannot ignore the 55 percent of the population, which are woman economically, it's not something that they can, they can take the risk or they should take the risk. but in the meantime,
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i think for what i'm hearing, they already kind of started dividing the cabinet administrator position because they thing woman are not for that. these are positions that are, that women do not qualify. probably lower level of women or, you know, 7 or 7. i think if women are not in the power structure, if they're not in the decision making in the leadership, how can they, how can you make policies that are friendly for women? how can you make in vitamin friends for women? so i think it has to start from leadership. it has to start from top. plus, i must say that the past 20 years woman have. i'm so proud of them because they have really proven that they're the most hard working, talented population of the country. they have grabbed any opportunity that was there for them, if you cation, despite the difficulties, if you give them. ringback little trouble, they will use it. and so therefore, i think it's not only for political reason for economic social money,
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other reasons, the woman should be part of a meaningful decision making process. when you became a prominent figure in afghanistan, political stage, your name was floating around and discussions whether afghan assemble is ready for 1st female president is all hope loss. no, i still believe that. so we have to give up on the chance and we have to give women some the chance i'm sure that a lot of them will be so different if, if a woman presented, it's not the 1st time in any muslim country that women are in the leadership if you look at the neighboring country, parkerson, they had the 1st prime minister in the muslim world, i guess money muslim countries have women leaders. why do some of these main thing that only by addressing woman that there are 2 muslim? it's strong. we want to have a slummy, right. what did islamic principles we want to, you know,
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go and survive and empower you left afghanistan voluntarily. why did you not stay? i don't think it was any more choice or val entity. i think it was a much. whereas one could be more efficient to be able to serve others. yes, i wanted to stay and i said almost for more than 2 weeks. couple, but i, at some point have lies that it's not going to be any more efficient. because if we disconnect with the world, how can i have other woman? so the reason i want you to get out was to be able to connect with the rest of the world and how and see how we can support other women. the ones are those things up front of some 35000000 population and the ones that need to be transferred to a safe place, angela on a safe again. so all of that will have not been able to achieve. if i was only the corner of my house, i'm going back, that's for sure. i'm not somebody who will,
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you know, live abroad or say abroad or enjoy luxurious life abroad. my heart is in 2 pieces. all of the pieces are in the province of hop on a son. when do you think you go back? as soon as i have the opportunity you were under house arrest before you left? yes. can you explain to us what were the circumstances around that? how did that come about? what were they afraid of the taliban? what i don't know, what would be afraid of? probably some, some of them told me that because as a result of the quick take over 30000 prisoners among them, some criminals are also released. so we are worried about the security, but in the meantime, i know that they were dead for controlling. so it was a catholic situation. there was no government. every part of coverage was controlled by somebody. so many people were advising me that my friends and family that until the time things a little the settled down better to be in
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a place which you could survive and then come back. i'll do it was a very, very difficult choice for me. was hard to make that decision, but i'll take it as if i'm here for a very short period of time at the taliban, of course are going to face many challenges. and one of them is the new generation of afghans and already mentioned who are not used to living under their rule. what do you think is going to happen moving forward if the thought of and try to impose what they want in terms of, you know, a pressing people, depriving them from the liberties limiting the liberties, including a woman. i think they will face opposition. i think they will face williams. i think people, what is this? what's your message to the ask damn people, and those both who have fled the country and those who remain, especially to women for those who have from the country, i'm sure they will come back from you know, the love and affection that i have seen including the time that i mean everyone is
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even not able to believe that they are not anywhere in the country. they're homeless. i would say tons to the government because they have given already the the feeling of being home. but to those who are in a parmesan i can do will continue to be relevant my message to the most of the relevant to the future in your hands. i will join you from south vehicle fees for afghan deputy speaker of parliament. thank you. i my name is sand bell. i'm the foster. i'm in the county killer jeweler, refund of shoes. if you go for the live mechanic was shop, you will see that you're gonna be mine. i did as it was before you specially
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miss on it's not mine. i do, they are women are strong with my, my dear, on our do there. ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, 985 for young anti apartheid activists were murdered by south african security forces. if you are gone, solve the problem by removing the guy, then you would keep 36 years on a family's quest for justice. reveal systemic resistance to prosecution. must all be convicted for taking my father away from me and exposes the influence, the former apartheid establishment. still wielded in the new south africa. my father died for this. a people in power investigation on al jazeera.
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ah, me fighting is intensifying between the african taliban under resistance group in the pounder valley. the only province still holding out. ah. you're watching 0 life from headquarters in delphi navigator also ahead. european union says it's ready to engage with the afghan taliban under certain conditions, but won't recognize its government. a man on a security watch list dab several people in a new zealand supermarket. the.
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