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live or dedicates her life to educating and saving others from suicide. we are the ones that are dying, where the ones that are losing our friends and therefore we have to be the ones that will stand up and solve it because no one else is going to. where there is hope, a witness documentary on a just, you know, the news. ready ready hello, i'm not in the top stories on our era. fighting is escalation between the taliban and the resistance group in the pan g valley. the region 125 kilometers north of cobble has been the only province to hold out against ton of andrew enough kennestone. even though it's now entirely surrounded several 1000 fighters from regional groups and remnants of the government on forces of massed in the rugged valley diplomatic engagements with the taliban and its neighbors continue. the
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british foreign secretary is in islam of ad for talks with his pakistani counterpart. while the european union's foreign policy chief says it's ready to engage with the new taliban government. already working with the group is katara, which was sent officials to campbell to help get the airport running. us extra state will now visit our diplomacy with allies and partners continues to intensify. that diplomacy is already produced. the statement signed by more than $100.00 countries and the un security council resolution that makes clear the international communities expectations of a taliban lead government. including freedom of travel, making good on its commitments on counterterrorism. upholding the basic rights of afghans including women and minorities. and forming an inclusive government and rejecting reprisals in a couple of days on sunday, i'll be having heading to doha, where i'll meet with a tory leaders to express our deep gratitude for all that they're doing to support the evacuation effort. well, as we mentioned,
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the british foreign secretary is in his lum bad for talks with his focused on the counterpart for minister show my career. she says his country, which support any african government that's backed by the people. marcus on said it's one of hands to decide about the future. we will engage with a, a government that has the backing of the people of our farthest on. our focus is on the cooper level, trying to stand. we want to help the people of the stocks because they have suffered and the european union is foreign policy chief says it's ready to engage with new taliban government. in kabul. joseph beretta announced that e u countries have agreed to establish a joint presence in cobble if security allows who have been basket beta concealed
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on coordinate in the context with italy, bands with the telegrams with the new government, ganesh then including with jain, you presence, think of all coordinated with that and i to service if the security conditions allow for it from that we should support the departure of nation nosy to be a nation. not that i still there, and i've gotten a risk, a group of african women who have demonstrated outside the presidential palace in cobble, the calling on the taliban leadership to protect women's rights, including access to employment and education follows a similar protest which took place in herat on thursday, a taliban official recently promised that would be a place for women in afghanistan, government, not in the cabinet. full of the saw in the last 20 as we the women have taken part in all aspects of life, shoulder to shoulder with men. therefore,
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no one can eliminate us. we not only oscar is lima camera government, but also all the international community, especially women from other countries around the world to support us. the us president is in louisiana to look at the damage wrought by horak and ida turbines is meant local officials before plan fly over a very is hit by the storm. torrential rainbow widespread flooding and power has been cut to a 1000000 homes and businesses. these 9 people were killed in louisiana. with these 46 people killed across new jersey, new york and pennsylvania. 3 people remain in critical condition after being stabbed in an organ supermarket. 6 people were wounded in total r t say the attacker who was shot and killed by police was being closely monitored by intelligence agencies as the top stores do stay with this yolanda 0. the bottom line is up next morning for you after that bye. for now,
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oh i hi, i'm steve clement and i have a question. as the u. s. and global struggle over vaccinations continues. where do we stand in the fight against the corona virus? let's get to the bottom line. ah, the debate over vaccines and masks rages on in the united states for a 2nd year in a row. some folks still argue that the pandemic doesn't even exist, or that their personal freedoms, trump the public health care these days, the stakes really couldn't be higher. more than 50000000 american students are headed back to school for the 1st time. since the outbreak of the pandemic, it comes at a time when the more infectious delta variant is spreading throughout the world. and it's affecting even those who are fully vaccinated. more people are getting their shots. sadly, the number of hospitalizations from coven 1900 rises, and more and more employers in forcing their staff to show proof of vaccination.
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even the department of defense has now issued a statement requiring all service men and women to be vaccinated. that wasn't the case until the us food and drug administration gave its official approval to the pfizer vaccine. who is it possible for the number of vaccinated americans to rise from around 50 percent, to 75 percent or more soon? and does that get the country to a safer place, and what do we do to support vaccination efforts around the globe? today we're talking to dr. tom frieden, one of the world's leading public health experts. dr. freedom is the former director of the centers for disease control and prevention is now the ceo of a 5 year initiative called resolve to save lives. dr. freedom, thanks so much for joining us today. let me ask you to just sort of help our viewers to understand from your perspective, given where we were, you know, 18 months ago, plus what has gone really well in this effort against this pandemic. and what are the parts that we really need to focus on that have not gone well and i want you would include not just america, but the rest of the world. well,
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one thing that's gone well is that we've learned a lot more about the virus and you know, the old saying know your enemy, the virus is the enemy here, and the more we understand it, the better we can fight it. we also have remarkably effective vaccines, especially the m r n a vaccines, but several of the other vaccines as well. this is a stunning success of science. on the other hand, we have real opposition to implementing the 2 most effective tools that we have, which are masks and vaccines. and that opposition or the barriers there include both the narrative as well as the, the politics and economics. so what we've got is a deadly enemy, the delta, the very end of the corona virus with the real possibility. that future variance will be even more dangerous, even more infectious, more deadly or better at getting around. our vaccine induced immunity. what we have
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to do is recognize that the safer we all are the safer we all are and it does require us working together. there was a very powerful piece today describing the strong sense of people not want to get vaccinated because they are concerned about their own freedom. but i think what we have to recognize is that each of our freedoms does depend on all of us doing certain things. together and in the case of coban, that means masking up when the virus is spreading and get the vaccinate whenever that's possible and making vaccination much more accessible globally. we are really going through steve a shocking time of unacceptable. ready lack of access to effective vaccines in africa and many other parts of the world. this is shameful, and we need to do much more to address it. should we have done better to in terms of communicating this we had masked on than masks off. now, mask back on,
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and it's hard for a public. well, i think the plain fact is that our 2 most powerful tools masks and vaccines have themselves been infected with toxic partisanship. and that makes them weaker. i hope we can get past that and the, what i hoped would really bring that on was the start of the school year. and yet the opposite has happened. we've seen governors prohibiting school districts from protecting their teachers and students. and to me that's really pudding politics. above our kids for the groups that are anti vax, anti mask, anti science, they're basically pro virus and that anti child, that means that our kids are going to have a much harder time getting back to school, staying in school, learning and school. and if there's anything we learned from last year's experience with virtual learning for school kid,
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it doesn't work very well. and it really makes what are already unacceptable inequality in our educational system. even worse. you know, i sometimes refer to and i somewhat say it the seizures the but i almost mean it seriously that while we see breathtaking technological advances in science and it is really miraculous in many ways that we have vaccine options. real vaccine options in a historically short period of time dealing with a terrible, awful, horrible pandemic, as you call the real enemy. at the same time, if galileo were alive today, i feel like you might be found guilty in many parts of the world and particularly many parts of america. what are we not doing to somehow create a greater sense of trust in areas about science and about the fact that science is actually and public health are saving people's lives? how do we make that deal better? understood? i'd say steve, there are short,
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medium and long term things that we need to do differently. in the short term, we need to find the messengers and the messages that really work that resonate. whether that's the local doctor or the local mayor, or someone in the community who is prominent or sports, or social figures, that's going to be different in different communities. and the message is going to be different in different communities. in some places it'll be about protecting yourself and your relatives. in some places it'll be about doing what's responsible . there's not a question of freedom versus vaccine. the more we're vaccinated, the more we control the virus free or will all be. so that's the short term in the medium term, we have to recognize that trust is the one thing that cannot be surged in, in an emergency. and some of the trust in public health, in cdc was broken over the past year and a half. and that's going to take a while to re strengthen, to regain, and that means going back to the basics, the 1st, the right, be credible,
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be empathetic. listen because communication has to be 2 way and give people practical concrete, proven things they can do. in the longer term, i think we need to increase the understanding of the scientific method of scientific knowledge of what it takes to, to prove things. and every time we speak, whether it's short, medium or long term, always be upfront. here's what we know, here's how we know it. here's what we don't know. here's what we're doing to try to figure that out. what has broken down with the global distribution of vaccines that are out there? many which are are produced in europe like the bio and tech pfizer vaccine has a big european anchor in it. and yet you even hear from europe, ian nations about dissatisfaction with the way the united states has behaved. and they call us vaccine nationalists. well, i think what you're seeing is that vaccine nationalism is both politically inevitable and ethically indefensible. and the only way out of that
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is to make more vaccine faster. there are several different types of vaccine. most of them that are being produced like the astrazeneca and johnson and johnson. dance and vaccine are what are called biological vaccines. that means they have to grow in very careful conditions. that means a lot of things can go wrong with them. and it's very hard to scale them up and to transfer that technology. a 2nd type of vaccine is the know of x type of vaccine. that's a more reliable production because it's essentially a chemical process. there is an edge of it that's included and the vaccine doesn't look like it says ro, robust again, some of the variance. and then you've got the m r n a vaccines, pfizer and madonna. these vaccines are highly effective, it's now pretty clear that 2 doses may not be sufficient. so we may need a 3 doe series. there are other vaccines that are given doses at 01 in 6 months.
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we'll see, we're still learning more about that. but there's not nearly enough, we are billions and billions of doses short. so in the u. s. says we're going to give a half a 1000000 doses. that sounds great until you realize 2 things. first, we need about 10 times that much. second, we need it now. not a year from now. so i think there is a route forward here. i wrote about this back in the very 1st days of march. there is a way to go to madonna, which the us taxpayer is paid for the development of the n i. e created the intellectual property and say you're doing a great job, but you're a small company. let's transfer that technology to vaccine production hubs in the us. and multiple parts of the world must make billions of doses bad. and let's compensate you. you can get royalties for the vaccines that you wouldn't have sold
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any way. you can be indemnified if something goes wrong with some of the vaccines that are made under your license and with that agreement. and you can actually gain from any of the tweaks that other companies and hobbes make in the manufacturing process that can be your intellectual property. we want to steal anything from you, but we just can't let the world be held hostage to 2 companies that are really holding the key to our most likely way to get past this pandemic. i mean, my journey, as you said, has been highly successful. its stock right now is over $400.00 a share. having surged over the last year from just, you know, may, i don't know where it was, but it was in the single digits. its market cap is about $160000000000.00. you have a huge firm based on this, and i think people forget that there is a public interest element built into imbedded into modern success. has there been
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any reaction? have any legislators as the white house jump on your idea to say, hey, this is what we need to do for the rest of the world. and we, american taxpayers, by the way, are vulnerable. if people around the world, pat, continue to suffer from this pandemic. it will come back in new variance in new forms to get us as well. has anyone jump on your proposal? well, your point is really essential that this isn't just about doing the right thing and saving millions of lives. it's also about protecting ourselves because as long as there is uncontrollable spread anywhere in the world, various even more dangerous than delta could arise, spread and come back to haunt us. so, i hope there will be motion. you've got the un general assembly happening next month in new york, at least virtually. and there's nothing like a deadline to focus the mind. this has been dragging on for too long. there's no saying the best time to plant a tree at 20 years ago. the 2nd best time is today,
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and you know, i wish we had started this 78 months ago and many of us called for it. but the next best time is right now, whether it takes 3 months or 6 months, or 9 months, the scale up new manufacturing capacities. and that's a reasonable timeframe for many of the facilities out there. that start right now, because the pandemic is with us for a while. tell me what a play for you, a clip to go back to the politics of this, which i think are so important, this country from president trump. let's listen, i believe totally in your freedoms i do. you got to do what you have to do, but i recommend take the axis. i did it. it's good. take the vaccines, but you got that's ok. sorry. you got your freedoms. but i happened to take the vaccine. if it does it work, you'll be the 1st to know. okay, i guess, you know, from my particular perspective, i was very pleased to see president trump say take the vaccines. he's done this, but i'm just interested in going to bring on, you know, this,
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this question of responsible stewardship in the country, you know, bipartisan republicans and democrats beginning to come out together. because right . are there opportunities that you see? because you understand the political dimensions of this as well as the scientific ones, and at least president trump, to give him credit step forward to do this, the audience is there, but it just made me think, you know, is this an opportunity to see president clinton and president george bush out there working together. are there things that we're not doing to try to convince the american public that the stakes are very high in this? interestingly, i've been in several of the focus group, but frank lunch than the do beaumont foundation convened. and this is groups of strongly pro, from people who are not interested in getting a vaccine, but not strongly anti evac. and what they told us loud and clear is we don't want to hear from any politicians, not from former president trump, not from president biden. not from anyone we want to hear from our own doctor. we
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want to hear from our neighbors. we want to hear from others. and i think realistically, if you look at what's happening, there is an increasing recognition of the importance of masks and a vaccination. and there's an increasing recognition of the value of mandates for masks, indoors, and for vaccination in certain settings. and you're going to see that whether it's tyson foods or many universities or other places. the news media will always play up the controversy. but the fact is, there is a very strong majority, strong majority of the american people who are in favor of mass mandate indoors and vaccine mandates. certainly for people such as health care workers who could really endanger their patients if they don't get vaccinated. that's not to say there's unit entity. there's not, there's still a lot of people with a lot of questions, but it's important that we address those questions. the move of the f
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d a to fully approved the pfizer vaccine in soon the modern a vaccine will have the same approval. i'm competence, just a matter of more time passing since pfizer was approved a little sooner. but that's going to help also make it easier for some institutions to mandate vaccination and it'll make it more palatable for some people to get vaccinated. i want our audience to hear from you about something i found on your, your web site resolved to save lives that i hadn't heard framed the way you and your team have framed it and it's about the consequences of long cove it. many, many people think you can get cove it and then most people will be fine. they will be ok. they will not suffer effect. but you talk that said not so fast. can you tell us a little bit about long cove? it in your concerns? they're still way too much. we don't know about long coven, but we do know that it's quite common and that it can be very disabling. it can
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effect everything from someone's ability to breathe freely to think clearly to smell and taste, to be able to do the thing that they loved doing before and interestingly, and sadly, that's not just about people who are really 2nd intensive care. you know, that certainly something it takes many, many months or even years to get over. even people who had very few or no symptoms, or sometimes having long term health problems from so called long haul, or a long covey. we need to learn more about how to treat people who are suffering with that, but we also need to recognize that even though lots of people have cobit and it's minor, they get over it that no symptoms. yes, that's common. but unfortunately, having long term health problems from cove, it is also all too common. one of the other things i've been thinking about, particularly with regards to the public health work you do globally, is this question of how good america's public health infrastructure really is. we're clearly
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a rich nation. we clearly have more vaccines than we want to consume while they sit and whether on the vine, when others want them. but when it comes to public health infrastructure, i really don't know how we rank next to other countries that may take the challenge more seriously. and i've also seen you invest in places like the philippines, nepal, nigeria, other places in the world where you're trying to set up, not just deal with cove it, but realizing that that, you know, there may be other dimensions of public health that help raise that system up in its totality, and it may be just single shotting, you know, a single problem is the wrong way to think about. can you, can you help our audience understand how we ought to be framing, public health questions and where america is the scaffolding of that? well, let's be clear, the u. s. is a negative outlier. we spend way more than any other country in the world per capita on health care and compared to other high income countries. people live much shorter lives with much more disability. if we look at the best practices from
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around the world, you see strong public health systems getting more value for health care dollars saving lives. there was an article that just came out today in the new yorker describing by our to go on. they describing the costa rican health system. costa, ricans have a longer average life expectancy than americans, despite being a much poor country. and one of the things that works well, there is they have a real coalition between health and public health to address the health of entire communities. one thing we find in every country is that every community has strengths and weaknesses. and the challenge to stopping epidemics is identifying and enlisting the strengths and identifying and addressing the weaknesses. do you think, as we said, and begin to consider other variance? i've now been reading about the lamb, the variant, maybe you have thoughts on that. but, but when we begin dealing, not with cove it,
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but i've talked with other americans. well, you know, doctor found chief, former senate majority leader bill frist who in his himself a doctor. and there was a lot of concern before this pandemic hit that a pandemic would hit. i'm just wondering what is your worst nightmare on top of that as you look forward? well, cobit is bad, but it's not the worst that nature could deal us either a more dangerous variant or a really bad flu, or some other respiratory, a virus or, or even a tick borne infection. that is deadly, could cause huge problems on average. science discovers one new organism per year. some of those organisms are deadly zika, for example, causing birth defects. some of those organisms are very localized and don't spread, but we know that the next pandemic is inevitable. what's not inevitable is that we
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continued to be so woefully underprepared. and in order to address that better, we need to do a couple of things. first in the u. s. get our own house in order, and that means our renaissance in our public health action. that means accountable progress. that means changing the way we fund public health in the us, because right now it's either panic and then the glass act, or underfunding long term. there needs to be a better way to invest in the system that will protect us from the next health threat globally. we need to do a much better job finding, stopping and preventing health threats. and that's why we resolved to save lives, have proposed what we hope will be a galvanizing global approach called 717, that every single outbreak anywhere in the world would be identified within 7 days of its emergence. within one day, it reported and investigation and control started, and within 7 days,
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identified objective benchmarks achieved for effective response. and if we're able to do that, we'll have a much safer world, and much lower likelihood that something like coven would be as deadly when the next pandemic inevitably threatens their sounds so powerful, dr. greene. and i'm excited to see where that goes and how we do it. but just ask you very finally. sure, because we're, we're almost out of time. but what is the state of international cooperation work on this one? i sort of look at the global scene right now. it's pretty toxic when you look at china, which is a major stakeholder, there's a lot of tension between china and the united states in europe. and i would think that things white global pandemic are going to space or dealing with climate change while they are, are challenges they are, they are also opportunities to, to bring the world together. what's the state of global affairs in dealing with some of these things? well, although you can certainly point to things that are concerning, some of the geopolitical tensions, some of the politicization,
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some of the sidelining of public health, some of the weaknesses from the global hoping to sions those are all valid concerns . but in the big picture, i'm optimistic, i think the world is that the most teachable moment we've been at in any of our lifetime. and we know that if we work together, we can have a much safer world. we're also seeing the kind of investment in public health that we couldn't even imagine just a few years ago. so we've got the resources, potentially, we've got the understanding that collaboration is important. we have many very dedicated individuals and organizations that have track records of success in various areas. we also have many years of effort. after the 20142016 ebola epidemic identifying where are the gaps, how did they get close? how much does it cost to close? and so i think all of the ingredients are there. what we need is persistent focused
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efforts to establish a global consensus and a global process and a global set of procedures so that we can achieve whether it's 717, or some other galvanizing go right so that the world can be a much safer place. well, dr. tom freedom, president and ceo of resolved to save lives, former director of the cdc. thank you so much for your candid thoughts today. really appreciate you joining us. thank you. always a pleasure speaking with you. so what's the bottom line? it may seem a bit absurd to folks around the world, but america is suffering from an abundance of riches right now. it has more than an effect scenes, but a lot of folks still won't take them many states or even bribing folks with cash to get the shot. now even as most of the world hasn't had a single shot in the arm, the u. s. is pushing a booster shot for its own citizens. the real power of this virus is not only that, it undermines our health and kill some people. it's a virus that can shake up societies and even the international order. if rich countries like america don't tend to the health of those who actually want the
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vaccine and waiting for it around the world, there's going to be a big price to pay sooner or later. and that's the bottom line. ah take the worst possible material uranium grind it into dust comparable to flour and make a whole lot of it and put it into place where people live. either can call us back to. so many people ask, this is a silent either. what does it make you feel like you feel like a murder? we have created an enormous environmental disaster and investigation. south africa, toxic city on al jazeera. ah, i say, let's come and check out this guy. totally up to skip are receiving crucial whether
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