ah, this is just going around up. the headlines fighting is escalated between the taliban and a resistance group. in the pan she of valley. enough canister on the mountainous enclave is about 150 kilometers north of the capital campbell. the region has been the only province to hold out against collar. bon rule. new secretary of state will visit cutout on sunday for talks on afghanistan, antony blink, and says the taliban mistake to its promises in order for sanctions to be. president joe biden says the us must do more to prepare for future storms. 49 people been killed in a north east that caused major flooding in new york, new jersey and pennsylvania on vidas tour of louisiana. he said, investing in infrastructure would save lives and money in the long run. i know you all are frustrated about how i take through store power. it's dangerous work. 25000

alignment from around the country have come here to louisiana to help cruise from 32 different states, right? and 2 of them lost their lives in the process of trying to get power back up. and we're gonna work in 247. the u. s. government could soon release classified files from the september 11th attacks. president biden has ordered a full review of the documents days before the 20th anniversary. any falls which can be declassified will then be made public within 6 months. last month they can families accuse the u. s. a deliberately keeping documents under wraps. they say the papers prove saudi arabia attacked our car to a did al qaeda attack is the european union and astro seneca have reached a deal to end a legal battle. i was slow deliveries of code 1900 vaccines. pharmaceutical giant will now deliver 300000000 doses by march next year as agreed a year ago. you accused astrazeneca of acting in bad faith when it provided doses

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lose from wildfire to flood extreme weather events have become more common around the wild and many rich countries are now feeling a devastating impact. so will this lead to more action and how can we prepare for the challenges ahead? this isn't tied story ah, ah, hello there and welcome to the program. i'm the styles, the okay. now as a global temperatures of stored in recent decades, there's been a significant increase in the number of weather related disasters. the u. n. is wanting these extreme conditions are likely to continue and worse than if we don't

take action. now at the moment, the ne, in united states is evaluating the destruction left behind by hurricane ida, which caused extensive damage from louisiana to new york city. will bring in august and just a moment, but fast this update from kristen, 3 me in new jersey. the northeast woke up to flooded city is an impossible streets . many had to be rescued as the remnants of hurricane ida made their way north, more than 3 days after 1st making landfall. thousands of kilometers away in louisiana. there were even tornadoes, seeming to catch heavily populated big cities like philadelphia, off guard. with the record rain fall, serious flooding caused the complete shut down of the subway system. the new york burrow of suffered the most fe, tallies in the city, at least 12 resident dying as water flooded basement apartment. the 1st crisis for

new york's new governor, the human loss, which is hard to imagine that people simply in their cars, in their homes, in their basements that come to the ravages of a brutal storm. and their families must just be in such pain this morning. in new jersey, governor phil murphy was out early thursday. visiting the town of malacca hill hit by those tornadoes, which left devastation normally associated with the southern united states. the ferocity of the storm took many by surprise trapping families in basement apartments and motorists on roadways that quickly turn to rivers. more than 20 centimeters of rain fell overnight in some areas that as much as typically falls in the entire month of september. when i sat, this man, we spoke to a new jersey had stopped in his truck to take a video like this. with water in the street suddenly began to rise the river. all the sudden i looked down the road and it was like

a river coming towards me. and me and my daughter, my 12 year old with me and we just panic. i put in a 4 wheel drive and just backed out real quick before it summers my truck, northeastern governors and president biden say the trail of destruction left by ida is yet more evidence of climate changes impact on weather systems across the united states. and bite and says the country needs to prepare for more to come. we need to act in congress return this month. i'm going to press further action on my bill bag . better plan. that's going to make historic investments in, in electrical infrastructure. modernizing our roads, bridges are water systems for those left, counting the cost, divide as destruction, relief can't come soon enough. christian salumi al jazeera, new jersey on the un says weather related disasters have increased fivefold in the

past 50 years. now this fear alone, reco breaking wildfires triggered by unprecedented heat waves have caused extensive damage in europe across siberia and north america. the rise and global temperatures and the warming of oceans have also strengthened the intensity of tropical storms and that's causing extreme rainfall and devastating flooding. from china to germany, and now the u. s. but still more than 90 percent of deaths related to whether disasters have occurred in developing nations. madagascar has now enjoyed 4 years of drought, and is on the brink of the world's 1st climate induced famine. the . well, let's now bring in august in washington d. c. we have michael dorsey, he's a planetary emergency partnership member and also a full member of the environmental protection agency's national advisory committee and reading in the u. k. we have richard allen. he's a professor of climate science in the department of meteorology at the university

of reading and also the cur, lead author of the intergovernmental panel on climate change report that's just come out. and in new delhi, chandra boucher and ceo of the international forum for environment sustainability and technology. thank you, old gentlemen said, joining us today. i want to start with what we've seen over the last week. now michael, as someone who has been involved with climate related policy in the united states, i'm guessing that what we've seen given the warnings around hurricane ida, the fires around lake tahoe, that none of this has come as any surprise to you. so what's your assessment of how it's all been dealt with? what really in united states of them, the unfolding climate crisis has been dealt with absolutely poorly, particularly by both political side. so on the right, we have a sort of a policy denial madness, no policy, no commitment. on the left, we've got a slow walk about, but oftentimes in circles with not enough ambition. got it, i think, is more patch characterized by what you might say. it's policy gets a friendlier, you know,

just to come to go. secretary lincoln appointed as his top energy advisor and, and from the oil and gas sector, nothing could be more daft, given this unfolding crisis. we've also got low ambition, though, president biden is the united states, back in the paris agreement, that he put us in, not in a much more robust way. so we've really got to get ahead of this crisis in a way that's purpose and fit for scale. and if we don't get what death, and they're going to be particularly concentrated on the poorest of society, those on the margins of society. most of the people that died across the u. s. in these past few days, poor black and brown folks, folks living in basements that weren't fit for, had, and so forth. so we've got this policy incoherence that really dams, those that are on the margins of society. unfortunately, you mentioned some of the dozens of death that we saw there. now, when i was trying to understand the destruction that hurricane ida ross, i came across a graph that really struck me and i want to bring it up for our view is it is

around looking at the temperature, how the temperature of the oceans is really increased over the last century, me not to hugely, hugely significant jump. i know that scientists are saying warmer water will make hurricanes, stronger flow and, and whether richard, you were the lead also on the water cycles part of the i p c. c, a report. can you explain that phenomenon for us? yes sir, i'm in trouble. so i claims like hydro, fueled by the energy in the upper layers of the ocean for the lives of the ocean is roaming, gives more power to the sun clone. but even more important to some of the impacts we're saying currently across the united states is the fact that there's more water in a room or atmosphere. and that again can power the flight claimed by releasing energy in the atmosphere. but also it is policy intensity of the rainfall. we've seen huge amounts of rain forwarding in a very short amount of time. and that leads to severe impacts. so the warming of

climate to, to humans is making these, the, the strongest cycling strong vote, but particularly it's making the rain for heavier and when the coastal inundation inundation, this is worse because sea levels a higher because of the will motions on the melting device. when i know south asia, for instance, has also been experiencing intensified flooding associated landslides with that over the last few months. so as we've been talking about, really developed nations have been seeing some of the bruns of all of this floods in western europe. the heat wave in canada, snow in texas, chandra, i know you've been working on these issues the years now. the richer country is the feeling a bit more of the pain. do you think that will actually spot more action? i hope so. you know, so far it was all about worked on trees and under developed countries getting hit by extreme by that even said no one of these things had been happening in my part of the was over the last decade and a half. i can very clearly remember in 2000,

so we had devastating product growth, outpatient, and this is happening every year. but so far it was all about developing countries that load resilience. and that could be, you know, ignored. but what we have seen to see is that rich countries are not going to escape this devastation as well. what happened in germany and belgium was not what people dying to be. a middle class got effected and the fire in california, which is raising right now, it is affecting rich house owners. so it is quite clear that climate change, even if you are, you are over the country. it is not going to spare you. it is going to devastate economy, that is going to destroy infrastructure and just going to kill people. so i think it is time that everyone realizes it and accepts this fact and start working together. well, let's take a look at what lies ahead for all of us as

a while. then i know the i pcc expert report on climate change that just came out last month. really summarizes quite a lot of this policy makers. so let's look at a couple of quotes from that. many changes in the climate system become larger and direct relation to increasing global warming. they include increases in the frequency and intensity of hot extremes. marine heat waves, heavy precipitation agricultural ecological droughts in some regions and proportion of intense tropical psych lines as well as reductions and arctic sea ice snow cover and permafrost out quite a lot that there's more continued global warming is projected to further intensify the global water cycle including its variability, global monsoon precipitation and the severity of wet and dry events. should i know that you were the author who actually drafted that statement when that is this call for the well to take immediate action to try to mitigate some of this. but looking at what's already locked into the system, based on what we've already admitted,

this phrase, inevitable, irreversible. what should we be bracing for, richard? well, you write some aspects for irreversible thoughts. a lot of the extremes. recipient environment can be limited with strong rapids and sustained cuts in carbon dioxide know the greenhouse gases. so what we're seeing now is just to start essentially. so free warming continue unchecked. and of course we're going to see these extreme right and for events, severity of droughts was far events melting of ice intensify into the future. so it's clearly clearly obvious from the science which has outlined in the art dcc report that needs to be a limit thing of carbon dioxide emissions. now the greenhouse gases, to, to stop this further, intensification. oh, despite the warning that we've been hearing from scientists like yourself, richard, the speed and the intensity of these events seems to be catching government people

every day. people by surprise. now we've seen all of this very plainly over the last week in the u. s. michael, how are people that are getting it so wrong in terms of predicting what's going to happen? so i don't think really getting it wrong. i think we really don't have a sufficiently robust response. and we see that in terms of the commitments to reduce emissions. if the president, president biden is certainly pointed to the country in the right direction, but he's off the mark by about 50, or as much as 100 percent. you know, neutrality is no longer the destination that we need to be pointing towards. really, we've got to think about carbon negativity and really aggressively getting there and being on a pathway that rapidly reduces emissions. and also we've got to get out of moving money, particularly federal money subsidies into the the thing that's causing the problem as the fossil fuel sector. we don't have

a plan in the states to dial out of fossil fuels. it's absolutely ridiculous. after decades of reporting from in a governmental panel on climate change in many others from many, many, you know, some of the united nations framework. conventional climate change is, is absolutely no organized thinking at the federal government level to in fossil fuel subsidies. we've got to do much more in that way to check what's driving this problem. that fossil fuel sector and then really ramp up really aggressively the way in which we reduce emissions. and if we don't do those 2 things, we're going to be stuck with this problem unfolding and more and more catastrophic waste your time. oh, you're talking about mitigating some of the emissions and some of the, the impact of those emissions. but it does seem that we are at the moment on track to a 1.5 degrees celsius increase by around 20 se, if not the middle of this century me and that's pretty terrifying. so much of preparing for extreme events. so isn't just about evacuation people, the preparedness that we've been talking about, that about much deeper adaptation,

especially when it comes to infrastructure and things like that. now i'm curious, chandra, your sitting that and south asia. do you see the political well at home to get this done? but i don't see political will in south asia, and i don't see political will across the world. the fact is that over the last 20 years, that hasn't been significant change in, in our energy mix across the world. despite the fact that renewables are cheaper renewable electricity's cheaper. 80 percent of our primary energy still comes from fossil fuels. the only difference is that some countries, bun, call, and other natural gas, europe and, and us have moved to natural, cheap, natural gas and convertible claim that they are doing great. but unfortunately, they are not the fossil fuel addiction that is there in the developed water is also that in the developing world. now we have to make sure, and i want to,

i want to still be much more upfront on this issue and said that let's get rid of fossil fuel over the next 20 to 30 years. now, before you know this, this extreme that, that even hit us, the debate in the us was actually on oil prices by den administration wanted to lawyer place ok, just just few weeks back. that was the debate in the us. now if you have these kind of the base, then how are you, how are you going to solve climate crisis? unfortunately, you're not going to solve this. so i think it is in walking back across the like the political leadership understands that we are now. we should start talking about the end of fossil fuel era. if we are not talking about and fossil fuel, we are not serious about climate change. well, let's throw this then to our resident scientists, richard. so much of my understanding around this is around the unpredictability of events, right? so not being able to prepare for the extreme whether that potentially lies ahead.

we now have, i believe more data to do that, as well as looking at what happens when multiple extreme events happen all at once and how they're all linked. how reliably, at the moment you think as a scientist, can we predict the future? especially given that there are some big potential tipping points that people have been speculating about that that could change everything. there are certainly a huge number of ways you can be better prepared for 1st or just just to pick up on your previous guests point, which i completely agree, risen the, the pcc report. and the latest one is clear and it involves policy makers in the process of approving line by line, the summary, and in the, in its stage, we can also limit warming to below 2 degrees, or is 1.5 degrees above pre industrial without these strong, rapid sustain costs and c o $2.00, but not only up getting down to net 0. c o 2 emissions,

which essentially means any residual emissions of c o 2 through burning of oil, gas or cold or using use of cement hust to be balanced out by sucking back carbon from the atmosphere in various ways. by, for example, carbon capture and storage technologies grow, growing, sustained, forest, natural, native forest, and these kind of aspects. so that's just to pick up your last guess point away. i totally agree. and this is laid down extremely clear in the report for policymakers . and the 1st guest as well. yes, so much more ambitious pledge is needed to achieve it. so great and then moving on to. busy your 2nd point, which talks about preparedness, some aspects, as you mentioned, or irreversible on some aspects, like the extremes. we're going to be at $1.00 degrees or 2 degrees about pre

industrial. we're going to see these intense extremes we're going to have to adopt to some aspects of climate change, recall void some of that. and so if we is we've seen in germany, for example, as there was quite a bit in the summit uses flooding. that was a slightly patchy geographical range and how prepared local regions were the warnings that because you can make weather for cost a pretty accurate out to $5.00 days these days. much more so than going about 10 years and post because we're able to use an array of observations to start for costs up higher resolution, simulate computer simulations. so we're able to provide better preparedness in terms of forecasts. these kind of things. so better preparedness for ongoing droughts flush droughts start to form. busy wildfire weather which halts troy conditions, but also windy conditions and heavy and sustained rainfall forwarding on already

wet catchment movies, things are quite well known, but it needs a lot more done to adopt the climate change and to reduce the impact of phase. and finally, the aspects of the climate system irreversible. one of these is sea level rise. now even if we limits. busy moving to 1.5 degrees above pre industrial, we can expect over the very long term, so many hundreds of years, maybe up to 2000 years. we can expect 2 to 3 meters, the sea level, right? so you can imagine what loud roots are close to cities, and that's in a very long terms. that's a very long time scale which we can adapt to, but it will still be a huge issue. an existential, of course, for small either nations. con, literally move above 3 maces. so these aspects need need to both the, the mitigation to stop any further increases because there are the c, c report states. we can see a sea level rise of up to 22 meters in 2000 years. if free,

if woman spirals out for 5 degrees c and d, i may want to have my hair on the outpatient issues, which, which i do want to dig into a little more. michael use of on the advisory committee on the president, brock obama, i believe. and then you watch off to that as president. trump took a vastly different approaches you've alluded to already. now how can country is cities deal with trying to put policies in place to adapt to issues like this when different administrations take such different approaches? well, it's profoundly challenging, it's apparently difficult for them to make out of patients, particularly when those incoherence at the federal government. but i think this is a repeat a challenge that is not only unique to united states, but really it applies and plays out in many, many countries. you've got, you know, incoherent policy making at the highest levels of government at the federal level.

whether that's in us and whether it's across europe, whether it's in india, you name it. this is in class, but you also have a great number of folks at the municipal level. really, really pushing hard bring in resources, rethinking policies to mitigate and adapt to this unfolding crisis. and i think you're seeing some of this now, you know, we heard it just the past few days with new york where they said, look, you know, we've got to get new york city and the rest of the state as well. but really better prepared to tackle and handle and deal with the catastrophic whether that so i think there's hope at the level, but it's going to be a constant battle when you have, you know, basically leaders that are ultimately not fit for purpose. you know, running countries and so forth. when you say that there is hope for action, i want to turn to chandra. something you mentioned earlier about the, the decreasing the very rapidly decreasing cost of renewables as looking at the numbers and the price of solar energy dropped 89 percent and just 10 years. i mean,

that's massive. i wonder that doesn't matter why countries actually take action? could it be driven by bought some lions and a desire for more profit rather than a desire to try to save humanity? it could that mean doesn't matter why it happens as long as it happens. could this all then be a cause for optimism at $100.00? is it called sort optimism? because renewable costs are down batteries stored as cost is going down, be have electric, bacon, which is competing with internal combustion engine. all these are good news, but the bad news is last year the, the world invested more in fossil fuels than in clean energy. so you have vast fossil fuel interest, which is driving right now across the world. and the reasons for it, there are countries were completely dependent on, on oil revenues to survive from nigeria to saudi arabia. and then there are countries which are depended on coal and gas. russia, for example, is heavily dependent on plus appeals. so there is

a vast fossil fuel interest that exists in the world. now, how do you get rid of that interest and replace it with clean energy interest is going to be the biggest challenge. now on that front, i think it is also important to realize that why you developed countries have resources developing countries don't have that kind of the source. and i think michael talked about new york thinking about investing billions of dollars in an application. unfortunately, min spell, it isn't bhangra, bayshore, india or audra countries in africa don't have those kind of money. and one of the big, big thing we will have to do if you want this change to happen is to move money where it matters. currently, the money is moving to all the dirty practices. we have to move it to a dedication to clean energy, building resilience and the society. i don't know until we are able to move the money. i think of whatever we are talking about is very technical. it is not going

to matter even in the shot, don't live long term. and we're going to have to see what happens at the climate talks that we are expecting in november in glasgow. i do want to give richard the last word here because i'm curious as a scientist and someone who's been very close to the data on all of this. and i'm very involved in writing this latest i pcc report. how do you personally feel about where we are as, as a species, do you have the confidence in our ability to make choices, to save and protect ourselves? and i'm just going to ask you to respond to that very briefly, please. richard. below the science is clear, so we know what has to be done as also mentioned by your other guests. and we are, i think moving in the right direction, but far too slowly. so as you say, this upcoming meets in, in glasgow. costco. couple, 26 is absolutely crucial for policy makers to really run pop around mission in terms of cutting carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. and there is so much on

the lion indeed. all. thank you. her all of our guests joining us here today. michael dorsey planetary emergency partnership member, richard allen, a professor of climate science at the university of reading and chandler bush and fear of the international forum for environmental, environment, sustainability, and technology. thank you, gentlemen, for joining us today and thank you to for watching. you can see this program again anytime by visiting our website that's al jazeera dot com. and to further discussion do go to facebook page. that's facebook dot com, forward slash a j inside story. and you remember you can always join the conversation on twitter . handle is at a inside story. now for me in associates, hey, i'm the whole team here and why from the news.

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