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nissan and i said that they were united us and we transformed it into action. this is certainly important. it was very important to know the truth in order to find them and give them a proper maria. so our hearts can rest me lose my faith convenience as long as i have the strength, i will always be there looking for them and making this miserable so it does not remain in impunity. i watching out there with lisa who robin in doha, reminder of our top stories, the battles, the control of a gun on puncher valley, showing no sign of easing the national resistance front and taliban forces are reported to be engaged in face fighting with both sides, claiming to have the upper hand, charles stratford has more from cobbled to understand has been heavy fighting in the last 24 hours. we spoke to people who are inside the valley yesterday. they
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said that yeah, that been a lot of shelling, a lot of panic, about desperate to basically try and keep seemingly people away as well. the security situation is seemingly deteriorating, massive concerns, but what was understood to be between 152200000 people in the valley, mainly ethnic tactics. we understand according to an italian medical organization that they have been treating casualties inside the valley as well. at least 12 police officers have been killed in an attack near the northern city of kid cook suspected ice will fight as targeted a vehicle check. point 3 iraq soldiers died in another attack in the northwestern district of the law of mosul. last minute protests are being held to disrupt the inauguration of an orthodox church leader in montenegro. the ceremony anointing.
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the new head of the serbian orthodox church is due to be held in the 10. you opponents see the church as a symbol of serbian influence over montenegro, tens of thousands. the farmers in northern india are running against agricultural laws, introduce last year, which they say are damaging their livelihoods organized. the say the protest and the state of pradesh is a show of force ahead of legislative elections next year. brazil has suspended beef exports to china after detecting what's being described as to a typical cases of bad count disease. the agriculture ministry says there's no risk to human or animal health. the cases were identified by inspectors in the states of been us. us and moto grosso, china is the world's biggest consumer of brazilian beef. of course you follow the stories on the website down there dot coms updated throughout the day. more news and a half now, but next loan officer is talk to officer to stay with us. we understand the
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differences, minorities of conscience across the world. are you taking out or bringing the news and current affairs? ah, there the salvia cofi began her political career after the fall of the taliban government in late 2001 her focus promoting the right to education of girls and protecting children from violence, exploitation, and abuse. she has survived several assassination attempts, but not even that stopped her from passionately advocating for the rights of women in her country. coffee was born in the north eastern by the shawn region of afghanistan in 1975. she had a difficult childhood, rejected by her family for her gender. she had to overcome many obstacles. yet
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despite these challenges, she rose to become afghan assent. first female deputy speaker of parliament. some even considered her a potential candidate for the afghan presidency. now with the taliban back in control and in the wake of the us withdrawal, coffee left the country and is now hosted in cutter. but it's her fight for the rights of african women over afghanistan's former deputy speaker of parliament, vehicle feet talks to al jazeera ah vehicle. the former asked the deputy speaker of parliament. thank you for talking child 0. thank you for having. i've kind of son. i've seen conflict for more than 40 years from the soviet invasion in the late 19 seventy's to the rise of the taliban and the 1990 s. and of course, the us invasion of 2001 you have personally witnessed all these changes. now the
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us troops are gone. the democratically elected president, sheriff connie flood the country, and the taliban has taken over once again. what is your assessment? unfortunately, what has happened lately in upon the sun is unbelievable for most of the populations that live in that country. after 20 years of blood and treasure investment, not only by international friends and partners, but also by the people who have been in the front of protecting you know, liberties and gains to see everything clubs in, in such a rapid manner was was heartbreaking personally for me as well, because i was part of all of this, i was in a way contributed to everything that has happened in the last 20 years in upon a some to see everything collapse. so rapidly i think was was something that was terrifying for most of the people in upon the sun. i think
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a lot of mistakes by international community, enough kind of sundays out to where we are. i would firstly put the blame on international community, especially when i could states because they were the one who actually favor the. the president shop honey in 2014. he, he did a window election. it was his, you know, the other side of the law was the winner, but they, in a political agreement, they gave him the election. he was favor in the 1st 5 years. this was one of the most corrupt government power centric. and 20192020 again to the elections. and he was elected president would very, very low percentage of voters that indicated that he is not popular, but the world continue to support him. and i think, you know, lack of vision, lack of leadership, corruption, all of that resulted in club of these situations. what do you make of president
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connie leaving the way he did? i feel sorry for somebody who claim to present nation and leaving without even facing the real trip the color. but we're not in column. there was talk that there will be a political, the to establish an interim set up on as a result of fish that he will leave. i think if he only there to stay another few weeks, we would have not faced the situation of collapse as we did now. and i think it was because of his, you know, mistake of leaving the country the way he did. and rumors of taking millions of dollars with him of motivated a lot of people also to go to the airport here from day one, i had the view that he is a baseless politician, that he does not have strong root. and upon a son, he came with a back and i have,
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i was listening to my speeches in the parliament the other day. i exactly said this in 2014, when he was elected, i said those will come with a bag will leave with a bag. and exactly, that's what, that's what happened. he actually came with a back and the lift atlanta some and miserable situation with the bug. have you talked to president connie since he left? no. i don't want to talk to him. there is no reason to talk to him. he must be embarrassed of what he does. you a part of the negotiating team representing the then afghan government at the intra afghan talks, you yourself met with the taliban in moscow and oh ha. that talks clearly failed. so what went wrong? i have been engaged with caliber now for 2 years because i knew that it's totally true negotiation. an engagement that we could present a different kind of some the color one should adopt. i was because the said a, not the government. this was a team that was diverse in many ways,
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representing different groups and political community on the some. i think one of the things that the americans, that was, they talked were taliban had an agreement with them without engaging the state off . i've got a son that already put ton about in a victorious mold. and especially after the day, the us president announcement that he will withdraw without any condition which was in contradiction to what the agreement said that we had him into the taliban. and the united states that put about in a position that they did not see the need for following the u. s. taliban deal everyone and hope that there was going to be a clear path to peace. why did it never happen? i think that before, i think the reason that we, we could not get to a speed that was required and took result oriented negotiation was because in the door agreement, the telephone time it was clearly mentioned that by 2021 after the
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political settlement is agreed upon the united nation states forces believe, however, when the elections in the united says happen on the government assess, then you have ministration, assess it's policy, and then announced that they're going to withdraw unconditionally no matter what in a situation which only did there was a escalating violence in upon, of some war was already active in many provinces. people in our army and security forces with would exceed the tire not only of the war, but also the, the corruption, they would not pay for months. they have not had the chance to meet their family as a family for months. so all of that combination of all of that unfortunately, resulted to a situation where
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a military takeover was an option. how do you assess the quick taliban takeover? it took them about 10 days to take control of the country and the us troops were still present, right, because nobody felt in many places, the police and army actually said under themselves to them. and in some other places, the security forces, flea without even touch on prison until the places that i present ton of them came a day or 2 days later, the security forces lead the country. i think because as i said before production but also because moodily our troops were so connected independent to international forces, especially the us forces that when the united states forces fleet from mcgraw base, which was the main base of the u. s. in front of some the same big i remember i wasn't, i had the same day, a lot of forces from my area politic, patrick
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a son that indicated how dependent they were trained. so that lack of mood of dependency was the reason for corruption and lack of, of course leadership from the couple because he was a president which was only central to palace didn't know what's going on in the country, was not able to present a vision for 4 of our forces offered, the country was not able to like be connected. and all of this i think to the valued up takeover of taliban, there was a disconnect between the central government and cobble and the rest of the country . absolutely. abdulla de la, the former chief executive officer of afghanistan, insisted on the show back in july that the republic was going to prevail. now have you talked to him since the taliban takeover? yes, i was a couple. we had the chance to meet a couple of times he wasn't cobble with some other politicians that are public will prevail in a way. i still insist in what he said,
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because i think over the past few years in atlanta, some to the buildings have been the infrastructure as have been built, it cetera. but one of the things that people do not report about is the transformation of generation. a generation that wants to live in harmony and peace in a prosperous and bitter life. in upon a son. they want to have a say in the future. the 1st they tell about came 2 days later, a small group of women came to the street protesting for asking for right now that's what the base small number but compared to the fact that back in 2001, 999. this was impossible, that's a good indication of, you know, the transform generation. people will continue to appear on media. i'll do the obvious, were close, but women still wanted to go to the office. i have seen many women who went to the
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offices, but they were closed. that is an indication of what they do to people as power, the people's participation, and they're willing to be heard and to be part of the political process. so this is a new generation, it is many say it's a new taliban as well. do you think the 2 will be able to coexist? that is no other way than quick distance. the country already has been in or for over 4 decades. most of us, unfortunately, are born and what i grew up in war, i'm probably will die and this is not true. it's a country full of natural resources on world young a population. so much resources. there's so many, you know, things that could contribute to a better world. so i think the only chance is quite exist sometime accepting the fact that we can have a political defensive. political difference should not be the reason to kill or the human being on august 16th, president biden says that american troops cannot and should not be fighting
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a war and dying in a war that afghan forces are not willing to fight for themselves. what do you say to that impressive, too impressive? we are a nation that i have all the and always talked for our legacy and problem. i've got a son is probably paid the highest price funding against these foreign occupations . however, i guess you know, the in 2001, when do you know the us and other new to allies can to i've got a son. no one is going to say invited them became because their own security was at risk list because they thought their security is not anymore at risk. leaving a lot of times, a miserable situation that we are witnessing people trying to queue and put themselves hung themselves into plain knowing that they will die. 100 person is an example of how this split that the country is and how miserable the situation
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of the people are. so they can because they wanted to come, they left without consulting the people. so now my fear would be, is that upon us on, once again is not used for another military. extreme is groat that will eventually pose the trip to the wall security. i hope not. but from what i see going, trip, you know, like a rule of law lawlessness. all this chaotic situation already paved the way for the growth of another minute to use groups. we know that i so for instance, already committed to attacks at the airport, very close to american forces. what were your message to president invite and be to prison by then? i guess everyone, all the politicians, they try to prioritize your own people. that's right. he did prioritize what he
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taught, his version of america 1st was an american interest 1st. but i think by abandoning upon a son the real trip that the u. s. security. a national security could be at risk sooner or later is there. so my method would be they should continue to work with people up up on a some they should continue to support the people up up on a thumb because it is not only about us, it's about us and the world. cuz our hope that the interest can talk sources taliban officials at the requests of the us and has played an active role in helping over 40000 and afghans leave the country. how do you see the role there has played in afghanistan in recent years? could have been increasingly engaged in the region of politics. i guess the fact that now they have been hostile into plenty goshen for a year. and now the difficult times, the whole thing,
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a lot of guns whose life are at risk if they stay home is an indication of the fact that they want to be relevant. and i think, you know, going forward. i think they will even play more important role and there is a room for them to play more important role in reconstruction. i would say are development of humanitarian aid to people of upon a son. now i don't know, what will the future government look like and know what i get to the stage knows what ideal situation would be if we have a government which is broad base, which is inclusive for your preventative of the a. you know, the people up on a thunder transformed innovation on a sun, on the basis of the democracy, the basis of people's choice. and if we have such a government, i think the country a government and his people will be more relevant because then we will have a stronger partnership in terms of, you know, using each other's
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a connectivity for each other, interested cetera. but i, we are, there are some risks, real risk. the probably ton of us will not be willing to accept quick this sense and power sharing. i didn't meant in a way that it is truly the preventative and meaningful participation of the rest of community including women. and that's a case, i think kind of the complain, important role in using a leverage to push out i thought about for a continued reform in the policies and listening to the people, especially to the woman. well, let's now talk about women. as you mentioned that about you, of course, in your life's work into your 2012 memoir, the favorite daughter, you talk about the hardship of being a woman and scan a son, and you describe how your parents rejected you because of your gender and how the day you were born, you were left out to die in the sun. you survived and became afghanistan's 1st
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female deputy speaker of parliament. what kept you going, what was your motivation? the fact that i have suffered so much as a woman. my mother suffered so much as a woman, and i have fit every woman that carried the burden of what's going on in the country kept me moving forward. what i have seen during the time, the 1st from the tolerable and power, gave me the reason to come to politics, although my father was a member of follow me, but this was not what i wanted to be. but what i have gone to, as a woman, gave me the reason to change things for others. because i know that it's actually the woman who the 2 who always have to pay the highest price. it's the woman and the goes. if it's was they have to lose the life loved ones. if it is, these lose the opportunities, it's always the woman does have to pay the 1st. i have just, you know, been in contact have many women who are this, but it's hopeless that they don't know what will happen to them. most of their were
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dependent on salary. they were the bread winner of this comment is the last that a lot of them actually are intensified situation hiding. why, why should the woman on the pay all of this circumstances i'm situation is heartbreaking. i think the world should wake up. why should we always pay for everything that goes wrong in that country? there are some people who believe that telephones roll this time around will be difference. and in fact, there are some who believe that the taliban should be given a chance. what's your take? will they need to prove that they are different? i have discussed with some of the leadership and in here in cobble they say yes. gave us time. we will be different, but when it comes to this port, soldiers, all commanders on the 2nd layers of the taliban. they do the same thing that they were doing 20 years back in the provinces, for instance, in the heat of the summer. when to capture some of the provinces,
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they ask women young students goes to where can we have trucks? can you imagine if that's in that he just if a woman who would look and plus work is not slummy, it's a, it's not just a job, it's more than a hit job. or for instance, in many places they keep saying that goes, cannot go to or any woman cannot go out without a male company. and i think they have to, the leadership really has to do an important homework and making sure, 1st of all that whatever the general statements and press release, they have and policy papers, the foot soldiers from top to the ground respect. so it doesn't become just a media statement, but actually a practice in underground to the taliban that you've been in contact with. have any plans or ideas about how to include women in their government. well, that's what we hope. we hope that they, they should not,
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and they cannot ignore the 55 percent of the population, which are women. economically, it's not something that they can, they can take the risk or they should take the risk. but in the meantime, i think what i'm hearing, they already kind of started dividing the cabinet administrator position because waiting women are not for that. these are positions that the women do not qualify, probably lower level of woman or, you know, her servant. i think if women are not in the power structure, if they're not in the decision making in the leadership, how can they, how can you make policies that are friendly for women? how can you make environment friendly for women? so i think it has to start from leadership, it has to start from top. plus, i must say that the past 20 years, women have, i'm so proud of them because they have really proven that they're the most hard working talented population of the country. they have a grab,
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any opportunity that was built for them, if you cation, despite the difficulties, if you give them little chance, they will use it. and so therefore, i think it's not only for political reason, economic, social money, other views of the woman should be part of a meaningful decision making process. when you became a prominent figure in afghanistan, political stage, your name was floating around and discussions whether afghan assemble is ready for 1st female president. his all hope loss. know, i still believe that so we have to give up a lot of the chance. and we have to give women some that trump, i'm sure that a lot of them will be so different if, if a woman presented, it's not the 1st time in the muslim countries that women are in the leadership. if you look at the neighboring country parker sunday, the 1st female prime minister in the muslim world, i guess money muslim countries have women leaders. why do some of these main thing
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that only by oppressing woman, that there are 2 muslim? it's strong. we want to have a slummy, right? we didn't islamic principles. we want to, you know, go and survive. an impala you left afghanistan voluntarily. why did you not say, i don't think it was any more choice or voluntary? i think it was a matter of which one could be more efficient to be able to serve others. yes, i wanted to say, i said almost for more than 2 weeks. couple. but i, at some point have lies that it's not going to be any more efficient because if we disconnect with the world, how can i have other woman? so the reason i wanted to get out was to be able to connect with the rest of the world and how and see how we can support other woman. the ones are those things up front of some 35000000 population on the ones that need to be transferred to
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a safe place. uncle honda on a safe again. so all of that will have not been able to achieve. if i was only in the corner of my house, i'm going back, that's for sure. i'm not somebody who will, you know, live abroad or say abroad or enjoy luxurious life abroad. my heart is in 2 pieces. all of the pieces are in the province of hop on a son. when do you think you go back? as soon as i have the opportunity you were under house arrest? couple before you left? yes. can you explain to us what were the circumstances around that? how did that come about? what were they afraid of the taliban? what i don't know, what would be afraid of? probably some, some of them told me that because as a result of the quick take over 30000 prisoners among them, some criminals are also released. so we are worried about the security. but in the meantime, i know that they were dead for controlling. so it was
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a catholic situation, there was no government, a report of coverage was controlled by somebody so many people were advising me that my friends and family that until the time things a little bit subtle down better to be in a place which you could survive and then come back, i'll do it was a very, very difficult choice for me was hard to make that decision, but i'll take it as if i'm here for a very short period of time at the taliban. of course are going to face many challenges and one of them is the new generation of afghans and already mentioned who are not used to living under their rule. what do you think is going to happen moving forward if the thought of and try to impose what they want in terms of pushing people, depriving them from the elaborate piece, limiting the liabilities, including on woman. i think they will face opposition. i think they will face williams. i think people, what is this? what's your message to the ask damn people, and those both who have fled the country and those who remain,
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especially to women for those who have from the country, i'm sure they will come back from you know, the love and affection that i have seen including the time that, i mean everyone is even not able to believe that they are not anymore to your country. that they're homeless. i would say tends to the cuts or government because they have given already the, the feeling of being home to those who are in a lot of time i can do will continue to be relevant. my message to the most of the relevant you know, take the future in your hands. i will join your vehicle fees for the afghan deputy speaker of parliament. thank you. i i witness accounts a historical event from an arab israeli conflict and finite witness dissident 1st
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