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ah ah, ah. hey there, i'm josh rushing and welcome to the stream. i'm sitting them for for me. ok. today we're talking about the growing crisis of eternally this place, people and somalia. now look, if you're watching this on youtube, to the box over there, give me some comments that i can get into the show live. we have a producer looking for your comments. are going to give to me and maybe i can get them to our guest later on in the un estimates that nearly 3000000 somalis are internally displaced inside their country. we pretend perspective for you that's about one in 5 people in the country. don't have

a home in our refugees. reminds me of old sweatshirts why healey prover, but says when elephants fight as the grass that suffers, in this case, the elephants are a security crisis with al show bob climate change. a government in turmoil. and what some would say is an international community that despite his best efforts, has perhaps been ineffectual. now, to help me sort this out and unpack it, i'm joined by an excellent panel of guest. and i'm going to ask them to introduce themselves. so i'm gonna begin with you severe please? hi, good evening. i'm some guide that could have director of somebody as premier security a think tank institute, but really focuses on the security challenges in somalia and the horn of africa. right. thank you from the red cross your glee telsa bit about yourself. yeah. hello, my name is caitlin. i'm the head of the international committee of the red cross,

the i see in somalia, pleased to be with you. thank you you're going on. hi, am i saying good isn't tour? i am a writer editor and journalists based in east africa. i've been here for the past 6 years. great. and i'm going to bring him one more voice here from the top. this is a video comments sent in from someone in our community named dr. andrew t who sets up the problem for us. so see if we have that the increase of climate change or the if a vast effects of climate change can also contribute to displacing communities. and as a result makes more come committees more vulnerable and respectable to on group recruitment as well. we find that on groups like ash about can take advantage of climate change . climate change impacts by positioning themselves as, as, as a way of providing services and relief to communities because of the impacts on trucks and floods. but typically in areas where the government or the state might

not be present enabled to be able to deal with the situation as well. great, merciless, going with you. we're going to start with, with the security situation. can you, can you set up broadens for what's going on with the security situation? is that some, all you at this moment all the security situation in somalia is never easy and has always been complicated because of the insurgency and the 30 conflict that we've had. but at the moment, there has been political uncertainty and political a people just because of a delayed electro process that was supposed to end earlier this year. but unfortunately it has degenerated into our classes in april that caused a lot of displacement. now. 7 the current moment to having similar people because of a conflict between the president and the prime minister, which might degenerate to get into a security crisis. it's right now still a political crisis. so we have that on one end. a 2nd big issue is i'll try bob and,

and fight again, social bob in an area called gun which is in central. so my recovery conducting operation. somebody security forces conducting operations against bob. and this is also called displacement because i'll show up with one and displacing the government forces, the government forces coming back in the population. prof, i could just step outside whenever this happens in an area called, he riding centrals for money as well as crime crashes. but also because of climate change and you know it's cost if you have resources, but as well the political situation tension between the center and the federal member state. now, well mentioned out about and i want to bring in the video that we have from for to my check this i should actually display bios about you want to we're looking for a model modem. we have not cooked for the last 4 days because we have no food to eat. we are starving. we badly need to be supported while hinge and dia, hi,

makia. we fled above. they chased us, forcing us to see shelter and support in this camp. we are desperate starving, and we need something to eat. i'm tumble and we do sound good. all right. so you're kind of toss this back to you. when you see someone like that displays welsh. bob says they're desperate. the hungry they haven't eaten in days was that was the red cross doing her yes, this is a typical image of the current situation in somalia. very heartbreaking image. see this old woman there looking and begging for food. the situation to him tends. the tuition jamalia has been chronically bad now for, for a number of years yet. and then people asked me about how bad it is. 2 days. it is very different. give kind of a comprehensive on to us. things are just up cumulate year over year and delirious factors that contribute to this very dire. you may turn situation into maggio.

if you look at the basic indicators, you may get professionals when he comes to health and nutrition, and live lute. those indicators have been bad and very bad know for, for quite some time. and sadly, and unfortunately the f taken these that the normal in somalia, if this would occur elsewhere in the region or beyond. people screen much louder about emergency about responses. but in somalia, these has almost become commonplace. and you just going from one crisis to the next year when you're, when you look at those indicators, is small, you're worse off now than, than it was 10 years or 20 years ago. where, how can you compare it to its own recent history? that's a good question. i think there's a steady decline that in, in somalia,

broadly speaking and all depends on where you look at. yeah, i mean this woman gave a very, very clear picture of what means for many people. and you mentioned a displacement in your introduction of 3000000 people. we had only the displacement of about half a 1000000 people. and those people are in dire need there. austin, difficult access there, often in the remote areas in areas that's where things are happening. this is not, may be, might not be reflecting the same. they, in the urban areas in mogadishu, where you know the earth and settings, their things might look a bit different. so we have not one kind of uniform picture across the county, but you have many hot spots and very regions that face tremendous needs and they need to be addressed. busy by, by the government in the 1st place and then with the support of the international community. and we are still red cross the i see we tried to play

a very specific role reaching out to communities that otherwise can't be reached. and we played there very strongly on our mandate, those, our reputation in somalia, us being a truly neutral and independent to this, to the, all these efforts. you know, it's hard to get your head around 3000000 people in a country being displaced. and so we do hear it out there are english to try to focus in on the actual people and their stories. and in here is one. his name is mohammed kara, and he is a herder. but let's hear his story. the see them, they saw us in the latest route. 2021 is the one that destroyed the animals. before they recovered from the previous drought. they were hit by other problems like the locusts. the locust ate the pastures. so animals did not get anything to eat. and that is how they died. there was nothing to give them. they didn't have anything to feed on. we were left with 50 animals. out of the 5030 were killed by the reins. now 20 or left kentucky had to live. okay,

how about saki speak to me about that? the personal stories like what, what happens to this gentleman once he loses all his animals to locus, to rain, to trout, to conflict? what happens to him in his family? yeah, well we've seen this story play out and we've been seeing this over the past couple of decades really. what ends up happening to people like him is that he eventually will decide their own life for me here with my animals in my farm. and i will take a chance at being in one of the cities, probably most likely not the show were most likely he will end up. he and his family in a camp for internally displaced people which are already crowded over crowded, already suffering from lack of resources, no education for children, no water and sanitation. so this is unfortunately a case of these up all over again, like and so looking down to that jump in summer,

i could just add that to that. you know, what's making this current situation actually west was formally the 31982. and the fact that we were having to rely on our dashboard to send in, you know, the remittances. and because of their own challenges back home and you know the difficulties of job, they're really the money has really gone down. and what you're having is back home, a lot of properties that were relying on the communities and their relatives reading a diet st. so coven 19 is affecting that because the diaspora isn't doing as well. can't send the money back. is it also covered 1900 also spreading within somalia was the situation which i believe it's very hard to tell exactly the impact of coping 19. but i can assure you that because we just don't have the metrics and the ways of measuring it. it has really affected all people, especially in current delta, vibrant. there's been a lot of hospitalization in depth,

but because we don't register the death and it's not really talked about because of the other crisis says the political crisis of 22 meeting the scene. you don't hear about it, but it's affected us. we haven't another video clip from another heard or that i want to bring in because he has one phrase, i think you guys know, at least i found very interesting. i love to hear you guys kind of a riff on it. we're going to go. this is her name up mid mohammed, something play that now. there is some one who had a lot of animals. all kinds of animals who is now just sitting, trying to do something else. this country is known for its refugees. if you lose your animals, you sign up as a refugee, that's what we say. so there are many people who lost their animals and signed up as refugee. how much want to take? if you lose your animals, you sign up as a refugee so we actually wanted to know what the government's position and let me go to this. we reached out to the government, we reached out to the office of the prime minister, the office of the presidency,

the office communitarian, affairs of cultural tourism, federal government, somalia, like the ministry of information. and we got just crickets like no response from any of them, but we did find that they have a policy. and i want to show this to the audience now, of dealing with id, peas and i tell you what, let's, let's tweak this out. so if you're watching this now, you can check our twitter and you can see the policy. but one of the things i want to highlight here is it says that i, d, p, 's enjoy for the quality and obtain the same rights as those given to all citizens by the somali national constitution. so this seems like they're trying to protect the rights of id piece, but as id piece poor into places mostly like mo, good issue. what is the situation that they're finding there for them? unfortunately, the realities often look very different for it is very vulnerable people and these hurt who talked about people losing their livestock. that's something you have seen

over the years. i was in the marya 30 years ago and i had the privilege and john to travel widely at that time. in jamalia. those who spend time wasted know months with the same, you know much and to see and experience their lifestyle, which even at that time was extremely fragile. people are very sin strategy to survive, to cope with a very harsh environment. the harsh, phlegmatic environment. she can make environment and, and soon things go wrong. things caught ups and d stays, things score when many from for the same time. and that makes people so vulnerable . yeah. and the example of recovering herds is something that normally takes years after crisis. but these time is simply not there anymore, and people have difficult to recover from on to that makes crisis, those. those light spans in between become so short and those crisis come in and is often a factor matter of,

of decent factors combined. coby is just one more and koby does quite tv and we don't know the details to be that have no doubt that mainly from the pool areas. but we know that the things are affecting people not even mentioned locust. their cries of studies hitting parts of somalia, that again is an additional element to makes life difficult and hard for many people. the summer is the government they're doing enough and when i say you wanted to jump emulate a thought to come right back to you. ok, fortunately i became a unstable political situation, has really not helped the situation. and they bought it a lot of attention from government institutions who could have been seized of this motto and really worked well with the international community. and you know, with other humanitarian agencies in, in delivering this age. so it hasn't helped and become complacency and no attention really to the situation. that's what we jump in and say there,

i was just going to say the fact that in my eyes really what somebody experiencing right now is suffering from what i see is foresees. this is conflict, climate emergency covered 19. it cannot make impact. but to me, as far as i'm concerned, the worst of the seas is a crisis of leadership. what we have right now are a bunch of leaders who, whether they are at the federal level or the member state level, are constantly squabbling over basically power. and what ends up happening is that the very people who need the boost are suffering because they're too busy, you know, fighting over, you know, minister ship and discussion in that cabinet. and it's really quite, it's sad, but we've been here before and i feel like we're going to be here for things don't change for like 10 years from now would be having the same conversation with actually just push back the parliamentary elections, which means they're going to push back the presidential election so it seems like the government is having trouble even kind of taking care of its own

responsibilities and acts as much less all these internally displaced people, right? yes, to really having a serious crisis at the moment. the president's mandates ended in february, 8th, this year there was a crisis to and he extended his monday by 2 years. that was changed. and now the prime minister is pretty much in charge of the political process. you have been unable to gather the support that you required from the federal member states and the opposition leaders to really move this process forward. and this is just because it's really, my cousin said, it's a bunch of men really who are making the decisions on how to conduct an actual process. it's an indirect process. so it's not one person one vote. and so there's a lot of, you know, at least a competition, tried to make sure that everyone gets the amended they need into the next button situation. so it really is a very sub state of affairs and i don't think it will be resolved in the near come, i don't see of having an election before the end of the, you know,

i'm going to bring in another voice from our community. this is a bill a hi, holly ok. and he's the says we were kind of looking forward to solutions where they should come from. guilford on all been done. this done so manage themselves in resolving their current crises. all their license can help can support to watch that goal. but these process has to be it has to involve all the stakeholders inside and outside somebody's, somebody's in the ask for, to be able to resolve this shuttle that, you know, you and husband desk 991 in different situations. you know, you know, peroration peacekeeping development and you know, they haven't, they haven't achieved marching, re got their key respond to the last. they said there were so the humans been there since $91.00 hasn't achieved much in that regard. what, why hasn't the international community been able to influence the situation more

that's a tall. busy order big question, yet i'm talking from a humanitarian perspective representing the ice. you're see. and i think a lot has been done, but solution cannot come from outside. the solution has to, to become from within. people like us near trying to support its most to makes more sense and then we can add to efforts undertaken by others yet. but do we put the blame on the denial could mean i think that will be be shortsighted. maybe not all is the right thing has been done that i think has been supported. but it's, i would just emphasize what the person did in the video that it needs a combined effort that everybody has to contribute to play the role the course. it's comes from leadership 1st and foremost. and at this stage, i just would like to emphasize on the element that maybe put

a little bit neglect these, the whole security situation or such. i think if we just look at some of the figures again, about displacement, dizzier alone to half a 1000000 people displace these here 80 percent of these people. these places are displaced by violence and insecurity. i think that's one of the big elements. we have to look into and this is different, the fact that contributes to that way they can be done more or not. i think i speak profoundly for from our perspective, we need more support. we need more attention on the context and specials in the climate discussion of these countries there all the difficult details on on for baby fact to see you mentioned they didn't often get forgot pushed aside because it's difficult to address climate change of address these issues in the future context and then i think the international community could do more or somebody is mean for a generation of somalis. what does it mean for those in the be asked for,

for those who are there? was it mean for the writers in the artists and the vibrant community that certainly house yeah. well, i mean, the 1st of all, what it really means the most is that there's an entire generation of families who have grown up with this constant cycle of, of prices and emergence. that doesn't seem to be like in other crises where, you know, the, as soon as you sort of do the humanitarian aid and then you move on, you move on to development. and then those young people who are becoming of a start to go to school and start getting jobs and they get out of the the that sense of crisis and humanitarian kind of crisis worker. so money isn't the start of the war in 1991. basically it's been, you know, it's 80 something years of one crisis after another. and even when we know the

reasons why somebody, especially when it comes to climate change, we're having, you know, we know what, why this is happening. we're basically having a crisis of either too much water or too little water. and there was a report that came out a couple of years ago, which basically said that the really the aim should be a build up of infrastructure and in order to rehabilitate some of these, you know, canals that used to area good water to farms have been in the state of disrepair since 991, that's something that could easily be done and finish and fixed. it doesn't have to be a situation where in potentially hundreds of thousands of people are, you know, facing famine lecture tuition. so it just, it really is quite sad and frustrating that we're constantly every couple of years, finding ourselves yet again in another humanitarian crisis. so that's the, the thing that really like kids need the hardest. the other thing is, you know, i've, i've been somalia,

i go there often i see that these quite is don't hit everybody the same way. they are part of somebody, especially in the show where there is a thriving, you know, yeah. the scene of like scenes of, of art and culture and music and, and that is what human beings are capable of. that's what we're all capable of. but unfortunately, we don't have the luxury of developing these, these you know, the mind and the hearts of these young people so that they can the preceded their potential to their fullest them become who they were meant to be. it's summer, is there anything here that gives you hope that we won't be talking about this same thing 10 years from now? really just the soberly people and how they always pick them up and really depend on each other's community. i think the communities have really stood out and stood

up for some people time and again, and i can't come back. you've been with the corporate 19 pandemic. i think locally the business committee, he did a lot to support the government systems. but to be honest, i think that the international community and the and the regional countries have had a part to play. and so my name is austin, political for a crisis says they have, you know, sometimes speak sides or imposed solutions that are not necessarily so many solutions. so they, they are not made to go round. but i would say that, you know, so many people eventually have to take all the responsibilities of not just the security, but that governance, they cannot make situation and lifting that people. so in our way or any moments here, you're going to go to you kind of for a last word. what can people around the world who are seeing this, who might want to help or contribute in some way? can you point them somewhere that they can get involved? i think that many efforts going on and i would join my colleagues. and 1st and

foremost, it's about the somali people on the somalis taking often things in their own hands . and a lot of things are happening. so my sales in mogadishu was in the north of the county and elsewhere. so if you have to chance to, to support these initiatives that are undertaken by somebody themselves, that's definitely a good step. my 1st it a day and then probably 9 information about that on the red cross website. yeah. yeah, we have your all your regression. i want to thank you for being on the stream today . hassan. i'd like to thank you as well and some error also. and thank you, the audience we're doing again, providing some of the comments really helpful. and we'll see you next time. ah, [000:00:00;00]

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