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hello, welcome to the program. how sure my brother law father is facing one of the most serious accusations laid against the french company over its actions in syria. the paris court of appeal had dismissed crimes against humanity, charles against the feminine giant, into a 1019 of that routing has just been overturned by frances stop court. my father was accused of paying millions of dollars to fight as including i fail to keep its factory open. the company eventually last year in 2014 after i fell, seize its plant north, east of other po. it has admitted some mistakes, but denies the allegations. i guess it, the court of to patients decision does not mean the company will automatically face trial. but it's refer the matter back to investigating magistrates to reconsider the complicity charge, saying one can be complicit in crimes against humanity even if there's no
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intention of being associated with the crimes committed. it did knowingly paying several $1000000.00 for an organization house. so the purpose was exclusively criminal, suffices to constituents complicity, regardless of whether the posit concerned was acting to pursue a commercial activity. the proceedings against the odds are the result of the complained while by the french violence ministry, 11 former syrian employees and 2 n jos. the company had evacuated its boring stuff when it left the country, but kept some syrian employees kept the mobile number. we asked the company to stop the work, but they didn't stop the company birth responsibility for all of us who would arrest it, kills them or kidnapped them home. several bishop, my nephew. yes, it worked for the thought you went from here to good to his work and i see arrested
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him and put him in jail after 4 months we went to see i see and asked about us in the opened his file and told us, executed him the father is not the 1st monte national to be accused of similar accusations. but such cases have rarely been brought to trial. 12 nigerians took energy giants shall to court in the us for its role in right abuses in the niger delta. in the 1990s, the supreme court dismissed the case in 2013 thank it. did not have jurisdiction over the matter by screws. also, challenged company is suspected of concealing crimes against humanity in china. change young region. ah, let's bring in gas in paris. we have nothing for get if she is the see all just and professor of the university of paris 8 and believe we have canal,
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the vita, a legal advisor, the european center for constitutional and human rights. one of the organizations that filed the complaint against the boss in dough hammer, one cumberland head of policy analysis of the center for research and policy studies. welcome to the program. now sarah, how significant is the bullying that came out in paris from the course above the case of the arch? i would say that it's a breakthrough. it's quite surprising, especially after the court of appeal decision that took place now 2 years ago. and it's a very strong fine and signal towards those that think that business as you, as usual, can go on, especially on the, on war, on war, france, in all kinds of places where wars are being wages by especially
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occidental and western countries. so i would say that is quite striking, especially considering that yesterday was the 1st day of the 9 month long trial of the people responsible for the attacks on november to 2015 in paris. so it has a very strong symbolic and political arrange canal. we, this has been a long ride for your organization, but do you think that you have reached a point where you could d, you could say, it's just a matter of time before lafarge faces the, the, the main charge was chief complicit in crimes against humanity. as i would definitely say so, so it's the breakthrough. now we have to see, you know, the appeals courts will have to rule again on whether it was right in asking the
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consolation of discharge for crime, for complicity and crimes against humanity. so we will have to see how the new appeals court newly composed will deal with this request from the fashion. we know that it will do so. bearing in mind the new interpretation of completion, she that the supreme court yesterday ruled and which is we can go in detail about that if you want. but once the appeals court will confirm, once again, will confirm, sorry that the indictments were completed. team crimes against humanity has to be maintained based on this new interpretation of complicity. we can hope for a trial not only on discharge of publicity, perhaps against humanity, but also on the other charges, financing officers and the prize and benjamin people's lives. model one, it's been almost like 10 years since the father of the uprising in syria and many companies have been operating in areas widely accused of colluding with on
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groups including i feel this ruling does it but more emphasis now than ever on every international multi national company that was operating in syria. absolutely right. i think it should delight it shed some light to actually this elicit business between international companies and some violent groups and syria. but this particular case is unique in the sense that is dealing with, with a company that, that has very strong ties to the french government. if you, if you, if we want to put this in into context, maybe we need to speak to bit about how important this project was actually for what products and to see the energy at the time when it was fierce, actually in 2008, a shop, the largest cement factory was the largest single forum investment
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project in city ever. it cost love us more than $680000000.00 at the time actually to been one of the largest and most modern summit factory, natalie ensued. but in the middle east, the production of the fact that he was like 7 or $8000.00 tons of cement and d, as words of half a $1000000.00 was a huge investment actually by, by the french. and it was a joint venture between the french and businessmen who were very close to the city of egypt at the time. and because of this he was, and this meant the company actually did that. what actually to be that the factory or leave it actually to be looted or be ok this massive by militant so they were actually key in to protected and to key,
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but an operation they don't want to lose or doesn't the money that can visit at that time in cedar, so that was, this was what did this, this is why it's so unique. ok, in the case of all of us, the legal team of law fudge is quite obvious. they were trying to scrap the crime against humanity, charge against them. but then the ruling came out to the tours, another direction which is basically we will have to magistrate, we have to re investigate the whole case. it could be a breakthrough, as you said earlier, but at the same time you could just open the window, fall apart to bring about a stronger team in the near future and say, you know what, we're not to be held accountable at all. there's absolutely no strong evidence. we've been doing something budget and syria. yes. that i think they will have then to argue word by word sentence by sentence about what to the court of gas station
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just stated. and that makes the case very difficult for them. of course, they can bring to the trial, very efficient and very savvy groups of lawyers, but they will have to face that at a moment where being the country and the home of defense, which is what france claims to be. i mean, the country of human rights is something that is more and more put into question and lafarge is giving this very strong expression, an example of how human rights were just put aside. and the, this company, this international company that is, has glo size to the french state as a, was just said, just look the other way when it came to defending human rights. so the case is going to be very difficult for them to make whatever their bring in terms of the
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lawyers and money and influence also, and lobbying probably can out a fuzzies, a financial goliath in europe. they have a huge resources. they have the backing of a government, but then was one of the key moments of the tribe was when they said, you know, once we have the local stuff operating in syria and it is the one which should be held responsible for any mistakes as well as we are concerned the top ashlyn of the company based in paris is absolutely nothing wrong that we did and how do you see that particular angle. so this argument they made in the judicial inquiry is a very typical recurring argument. multinationals make, try exonerate from their responsibility. they hide behind their complex structures and they hide behind the fact that they operate through subsidiaries that are abroad. and they pretend that they don't know what is happening in the subsidiaries,
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that they don't have the powers, the competence or the means to stop the actions of the subsidiaries abroad. windows actions may lead to the commission of crimes alter the fueling of credit crimes. and this argument, i must say, we have reviewed it quite quite easily because the evidence in the file is extremely clear when it comes to payments. i have been made to several arm groups including ices. it is clear that the, the members of parents of the parent company in paris headquarter the parents were not only aware of those payments, but with sometimes instructing them to get that was the subsidiary. so there this argument that really doesn't hold any more and legally discuss translators in the decision of the appeals court, which hasn't been put into question by us. sorry, commission. yeah. haven't been put into question by the supreme court, which is that the parents company is indicted for the financing of the parents and
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price. although the payments had originated from the accounts offered subsidiary abroad, and the court indicted the parent company because he took into account evidence and the fine showing that they were informed. but it also mentioned, and this is a very strong element of this case. also, the chord mentioned that because the foster parent company has such a strong financial and operational control over its subsidiary. it wouldn't make sense legally to say that it cannot be held responsible for payments, criminal payments, pay my tutoring, my $1.00 that is an international coalition against ice. it has its own counter, isis finance group. and it has been pretty much trying to work out ways to, to disrupt the financial flows going towards these gross. do you think this case in particular, could be conducive to a broader investigation where we might see multinational companies being held accountable for shot businesses with groups like i said,
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and other groups that were operating in areas in syria, particularly the north eastern northern part of the country and the thought is some part of syria. absolutely, i think this time may be because usually they can stay in particular because you're actually not in sham americans while leading this war in order to undermine the network, the financial network, cost of tourism all over the world. did he usually focus on, on our companies and i mean, did they keep, come, come and go. actually the doctor, the conclusion to disrupt, i speak with the government, mind these, these networks. but sometimes you'll be surprised to see that some of the big wister companies like, for example, was very much into the business of financing. and, and also if you wanna, if you wanna look into another aspect of this, this issue,
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this issue, you can also see the link between the french government and bosh, and y p g. because i mean that the french have been, you have been relying very much and now, but also the learning very much the way you see there was also considered by other companies in the region. but keepers as a 3rd organization, they were relying on didn't know that particular boston city. so i think we have to look pretty carefully into ok and to all sort of business activities of these companies, not only financially, but also in terms of the legs that are having with other non state actors in the region like the white the ship works on nothing you spoke about the, the crucial timing of the ruining because it coincides with the same time with the trial, the main suspect of the rampage that killed a 130 people in, in france in 2015. could this be
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a moment where the judges the course with say, you know what, it's about time to tackle this because this is a serious issue that could also ultimately have serious ramifications allows itself . yes, i think that what it brings to the picture is the complexity of what was happening back then. at the beginning of the uprising in syria, the way it was repressed, of course, by the syrian state, the way ices eventually became and prevailed in syria. but this means that they hit as ramification all across the region, all the way through the mediterranean 2 pairs. and this is also important to, to strike the fact that we cannot think in terms of war and terror. this era that we entered in 2001 and we are still living in without including all
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parts that took advantage of these wars that raise their own prosperity on these wars. and this is something that might change the backdrop of the trial that is happening right now in pairs and bring into the picture. things that usually are kept aside or that are overlooked. for that, a lot of states would just want to turn a blind eye on, and this has to be part of the picture. now, the complexity and all the interests that to part into what led to the rampaging nurse. but more widely to all these wars and their casualties cannot navigating through the judicial system all over the world is a very complex task as you know. but do you see an opening here where active is could say, you know what? it's about time to focus on companies operating in areas where the human rights
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violation and abuses. we've seen a case now being brought to gas companies operating in chines young work. if they're saying, basically, how can you operate in a place where the, where the community is been prosecuted by the chinese government. yes, i think really this case has the potential to encourage foster in or ongoing cases on corporate accountability against multinational. but also maybe encourage people to take initiative like that you were talking about. the org was case there's also a case pending before the international criminal court related to the responsibility of arms. traders from different european countries who persist in exporting weapons to sonya ravia and the united arab emirates. although those 2 countries are needing the coalition that appears to have committed systematic attacks on civilians in yemen. so i think now the ruling that the supreme court
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gave yesterday is really going to inform the way those cases down by the different courts concerned by one. these are companies middleman people working in the and under ground some of the not created with huge organizations with governments. we've seen in the past many evidences directing to work very high profile people who were dealing with the syrian government, with ice when it comes to shipments of oil. but ultimately, you don't get a sense that the international community is more willing to move forward and bring all these people accountable. what's the general sentiment among the syrian people? when you look at this particular case, says that go somehow i'm punished by the international community. well, i think a fistful, i mean, we need maybe to look at doc, disagree, the picture of the economy that has been actually matching and see over the
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past 10 years in which as you said, we have so many warlords. we have so many, many men in fact profiting on the expense of those people actually were the heaviest by during the war. and i think we to think about how, how at this stage we need to, we need to, to focus on, on transition of justice for those people who, why would that live actually has been destroyed by this, by this war. and by these also, business activities, by, by the warlords, by the middle men and by the companies wiped the, namely on the sand about how to make out of this, this war. but at this point of the crisis, most people right now and stand about keeping the peace and try to leash
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comprehensive cease fire to the conflict and syria. because as you know, over the past few weeks there has been a renew of tradition. and then in the south, in bottles, city, i mean we see almost daily bombardment of, of civilian there, but it live in that. and then so i know most people are focusing on how actually to stop this conflict or start dealing with the other aspects of including transitional justice. ok, i think people actually get a lot not feel up. you have the ethics and you have the greedy companies looking for profit and both collide most of the time. but do you think that this could be the moment whether the man, tim should be building 2 words, rewriting the laws internationally to put and to the practice of these companies.
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taking advantage of cover from their own governments to take money from people in countries will face distraction and death. yes, absolutely. but i think that we have them the tools and the means to do that. it's just that so far, this kind of international companies such as the fog and others, just feel that the national and international laws were not made for them, that they could just get away with it and just find ways to bypass any kind of control. and so the decision of the court of guess you is, is the most meaningful in that respect. because it means that they cannot, they all just as any other entity. and they can fall under the rule and, and the strength of these, of these laws and of these different bodies of,
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of jurisdiction. and this is something quite striking and might be, might open new paths for those entities and international companies that rely on the laws of capitalism. so that they become accountable for, for the crimes that they take part in. can you know that as a legal advisor, that ultimately you have to deal with companies affiliated with government? they have lowes of cash and they have a cover and they have the backing of strong governments all over the world. do feel like that we have reached the point where n g o z will be more equipped, we'll have more backing, particularly from the people all over the well to put an end to the practice of grid, accompanies working in war zones. so we are gathering experiences where gathering expertise on what are the obstacles that are faced in those traditional proceedings
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. and we surely, i think get better in anticipating those those obstacles. but when it comes to governments and to the fact that governments are also linked sometimes to those business activities, i think we're seeing this trend. trend in the business and human rights movement more and more in those cases of corporate accountability. usually do not only involve a company, but also sometimes have the support of states. for instance, i was talking about those arms exports cases earlier. their arms exports or arms. traders are given export licenses by golden, men's. we also know in cases relates to to, to climate change or to pollution. that's industrial exploitation projects of land also be initiate from licenses to, to a bank if you're going to land or top. so this is definitely a trend, minute 24 can love return the good of and model one problem. and i really appreciate your insight and looking forward to talking to you in the near future
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