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ah ah, ah, i am josh rushing sitting for for me. ok today and you are in the stream. has the brazilian amazon reached the point of no return? if you want to understand how the ramp, deep or station and fires are changing, the world's largest rain force. take a listen to this video from christopher covey. he's an assistant professor of environmental studies. it's good more college we've been concerned. the deforestation is driving the amazon to a catastrophic tipping point. now it looks like we may already be there, instead of acting as the enormous thing for atmospheric c o 2, that at once did human activity in the base and now result in $300000000.00 tons of

carbon being admitted to the atmosphere every year. or concerning still, or areas in the southeastern portion of the base. and we're even intact for us are now admitting more carbon than they absorb. this breakdown in the carbon cycle is clear evidence of the entire amazon is on the verge of collapse. if we know immediately halt deforestation, and expand efforts at reforestation, we're going to lose the entire amazon while we're going to lose entire amazon. ok, look if you're watching this on youtube, can you help me out? see that box over there. there's a live stream producer there waiting for your comments to get them to meet so i can use them in the show and you too can be in the stream. now i brought in 3 guests to talk about this topic today, and i'm going to ask them to introduce themselves. we're gonna start with mia mikki and tell us a little bit about yourself. thanks josh. well, i'm a reporter and i've been a covering brazil with

a focus on indigenous rights and the conservation of the amazon, amazon. i was actually few producing problems during the amazon fire is in 2019 right. thanks for being with us. me, andrea. hello everyone. my name is andrea, i represent an n g o in brazil college opa, which works for the defense of additional red gray and elise i thank you so much for following writing us and i lease your extra, i mean, which is also and then you also in the us in metro grosso as well. and we also use one of the state that most this one, these key. great. all right, well let me, let me ask you the amazon's been referred to for years as the lungs of our planet, meaning it sucks in all the c o 2 and it puts out oxygen. is that still true?

while that's still true, as we heard from dr. chris for it's reaching a tipping point where even though most of the amazon is doing fact, then it stops having those capabilities, which is of course, would be a tragedy for the whole world. but while when we were there, when i was there and i was part of the team on the ground there, i think what shocked me the most was that, right? someone who i mean going to the amazon is not something that everyone does and what we hear about it when we see about it are those lush green until the horizon fields full of these have really amazing habitats. the length of our planet, like you said, but then when you get there and you see full patches of the amazon completely destroyed, ashes falling down, falling down from the sky. and at some point in some of the places like much growth where the production, the industries are very strong there, you can see it said that hurts. so in,

so instead of seeing trees up until the rise and you see fields of wheat, of sugar, of cotton of soy. so it's very deserted at some point, very windy because of that very dry because of that. and so it's not really what you expect to picture, and it's not really healthy to see the amazon in that said, yeah, i think of amazon is this global resource, but not for providing food for but for providing oxygen. and right now the one person who has a lot of influence on that, as president boston, are, i want to bring him in here just for a moment. so it's going to be we'll have rising inflation, future shortages, farms being simply destroyed for reservations or others being displaced by reservations and unable to be more productive. we looked to the responsibility of the supreme court, which is very important for us, so that all my separate given or the andre. we sit back and see that there's kind

of global resources in the hands of president bolton are up to a certain extent, that just real quickly. but because maybe a lot of our audience, we have a large international audience doesn't follow bazillion politics. can you set up both normal force a little bit, talk a little bit about him and then maybe respond to the clip that we just saw. yeah, watson ira was elected in to 1018 in brazil teaser he represents the ultra right wing and he's got a lot of unto democratic ideas and ideologies. and this, this clip actually measures he's view on the, the amazon. what is the amazon for him? he's point of view is for production is for progress, quoting, but he doesn't consider the diversity of life in the amazon

and not he doesn't because he did the community more than 24000000 people that actually lives in the amazon. and probably most people don't know, but we have more than 300 different ethnic groups that live in the amazon, which is a region of my go make a bio diversity. and most of the knowledge that there is in the amazon. we don't go, we don't have a clue on the potential of all human resources and ecological resources that, that actually the whole life depend on. so he is view is enforced by some specific drill which are not the majority of the brazilian population. and he's referring to a judgment that is going on in brazil. you can see the images that

the women, the women's law march against against the bushel now. or you can see him in this picture. and i guess displeases that does not consider the rights of indigenous peoples if they weren't on the land before the brazilian constitution, which was in the 5th of 1988. so the rule sector, the are together with both scenario. another politicians are defending, are defending the species of not considering the land rights offering dizziness, peoples which is against our constitution. and also only only defending that they are entitled to be where they are. they were born

if they work before 81988. hey andre. and i can see at least want to jump in. yeah, jumped up in here. i'm going, hey, before you do least, can i use a video clip though? because i love that we were bringing up the digital people who lived there, particularly the women who lived there. i'd like to centered them in this conversation right off the top. so we have one from cecilia shotwell bob. she's in a digital liter. check this out to d. marquee indigenous land is to the market, and guarantee the life of humanity itself. we are 5 percent of the world's population, but we protect around 83 percent of the world's biodiversity to the market territory is to guarantee the breathing of the planet. and i'm going to bring in a comment from twitter. this is someone who follows. it says the indigenous groups are correct, they had characters left over. that's a short tweet, but a strong point of a lease can, can you? what were you going to jump in to say that?

so, so this was so inspiring. but it's very inspiring and she was actually saying what i wanted to, to add to add that we know that indigenous people actually protecting the loan. if you look at the map, you are going to see green island, where indigent people territories are. so it's very important to also send that invoice. we know how to, to, to reduce deforestation. and we have done it in the last decade and we asked things. so going to wall different station rates in the last 5 years. no. but we actually have the tour, the institutions and capacity to do that. so it's very about political will and making, making it happen. actually, josh,

if you don't mind me adding a couple of things, you actually took a new study that just came out from i think it's the bomb, which is also a nice. it's huge. since if you use it, you focus on the atmosphere and see says that in the last 36 years, while 20 percent of the amazon has been destroyed, only 1.6 percent of indigenous lands have been forces. so this shows how indigenous plans are much are protecting the amazon while the rest of the land is actually like of no man's land where no rules apply. well, there are rules, but they're not enforced because there is not enough people to enforce them because the power in these regions in these very remote regions. and that's one thing we have to beecher. it's a place where almost no one goes, are in the hands of the industry. and another thing you, you show the map which shows the, the, in the land over just a 2nd. i just want to tell our viewers. i have this met pulled up on our computer

right now back to me. i don't know if you can see it, but both you and elise are talking about this map. we see a lot of brown dots and then we see kind of areas that are circled off in reg hughes. explain what we're seeing here. sure. so the areas in red, the lines, the reds are showing the indigenous lands. the indigenous plans that have been recognized by the government and are protected and then as you can see its green inside of them. brownie spots or reddish spots show deforested areas. so as specifically on the south and on the, on the southern end of the amazon southern and eastern where well, it's mostly, most of the roads are built and everything like that. you could see that in some areas, the frustration stops right at the border of indigenous lands. so you can see, you can see the, they are exactly islands of conservation. and that's because inside of indigenous land are indigenous peoples. people who do not stay silent when they're lens are invited. it's not because the rules are more respected and the agro business

respect these borders the most. it's because inside of them, there are indigenous people that do not allow and are very strong in condemning, and denouncing and protesting where they're lens are and are invaded and before that. so it's not just something that's on the map. it's also the voices of indigenous people that are very important. and just one thing about just like to add to what i said earlier, that both sonata looks at the amazon as a resource to use and not a treasure to protect, which is absolutely correct, but also important to know where our international audience most of all is that it's not only both. so now this happens with political powers in the us and europe, and i just have your recent study that was published in science magazine in july last year. show that 22 percent of all of the soy and brazil is the number one export to 4. so 22 percent for that is exported from brazil is actually coming from

illegal deforestation. and this is not being produced in brazil. it consumes being used for consumers outside of brazil. so it's also important for police go actors outside of the country to start having some kind of resources for the consumer. and, you know, not to allow and have a product that's coming from the amazon illegally. so of course that brazil has a huge responsibility in protecting it, but also us as consumers outside of reveal have to it's very easy to point fingers when we're outside, but we're also playing a part in the forcing address. jumping out of here here. go for thank me. yeah. me i was speaking and before we pass through this illegal, illegal logging issue and illegal deforestation, which is one of the specialties of l u. c. c. she will probably speak on that.

i would like to highlight that despite these, these very important role of being juveniles, lance, in brazil and curbing deforestation. and actually there are, if you, if you take the visuals length and all of their protected areas, just for example, national parks and other kinds of reserves, you would have around 40 percent of the amazon by young, legally protectors. and but despite of that, since wilson arrow was elected, we've seen a lot of the fire station inside these lands as never for i think he was there. and we of the for the size of indigenous land since both. and i was elected 20 percent. what is, is even more concerning is that the, when you, when you look at the areas where there are isolated tribe,

the deforestation, sword, more than $200.00 defense in the last years. so this is even more concerning because these tribes are, are, have, have, they have had no contact with our society. and there is a policy, a national policy in brazil that says they have the right to, to keep at a distance if they want to contact, they are free to do contact when they feel it's important. hey andrea, i want you to comment that you ok. someone's pushing back on you to name sebastian county says the world is for the humans, plants have lived long enough, indigenous peoples of the amazon need to join our society and be productive. and most of them are and i do them all arrive. and i can say solution at least get on the so we need to be productive. we need to,

we may need to, we may need when children need production. but we also need to brain and, and basically to our grain. talk about the amazon being the length of the, of the planet. i would say the amazon is literally pumping water. so if we low a few lowes the amazon, if it be b, amazon or in for a switch to a savannah for instance, which is basically what the tipping point about. we're going to have a lot less rain and all of that is being produced in brazil. it's going to being faxed. and actually we see that happening right now because it is going through a very, very deep and curious watching crisis. so let me ask you this,

cuz here's what i'm. one of the things i'm worried about is that as we take away the trees and that takes away some of the water, they're in the land become savannah even does or in some cases, can that ever be reversed? can i just add just that mazda last year? in july and june, put out a report saying that brazil was facing the worst drought in a century. was happening already. but can it be reversed? can the savannah be turned back into reinforce, do we even know we can, we can plan 3. and it's, we already all planet is trying to plant a lot of trees, but it's not going to be the same. and you know, for people that are actually living in the amazon, it's kind, it's, it's not a solution to see fire, to see different station to legality. all of a very bad thing happening in the, in the love in there at the local level. so to me,

if i don't see the issue there, i want to, i'd like to bring in some, some other elements which, which is the cultural elements. so planting trees. of course, it is an option, but it won't solve the problem as a nice was saying, because we, if you don't have that nature, you don't have culture. the traditional knowledge depends on the existence of bio diversity on, on a logical processes that cannot be substituted by a bunch of trees. you know, so this is a matter of looking to the future with responsibility and not looking to, to today to the present only. yeah, and so i want to bring one more voice here guys and that and then come back to lucy

on a chavez. she's an environmental researcher, human rights watch and she's looking at the way ball center is enforcing or not enforcing the environmental laws that are there on the books. currently, federal law enforcement from our research even shows that his administration suspended payment for environmental fine for a year, but he's not new into international pressure. biden's climate on the flesh. he fight deforestation couple weeks ago, his environment minister and now they'd be increasing resources for environmental law enforcement. the international community needs to continue pressuring both on our for concrete, for both that is reducing deforestation not to put for the contract. committed climate commitment and tackling community for violence or mental defenders trying to protect the amazon. or if you've got to have a call that she was saying though that the both of our government had sabotaged environmental law enforcement from the beginning. i also want to bring in a youtube comment here that this is for more and as chris and ask,

what kind of tools if any, do these indigenous people have to fight this? yes, josh, if you don't mind me answering the 1st part of the question, when i, when i was in brazil, one wilson, i was elected. and you could see in the immediate shift on how this is a small example of how the government reacted to journalists before that, all of the environmental ministries any, did you send bodies responded to journalists and were very happy to help. and after that, it was complete silence. i think the tools that indigenous people can use our political representation. they right now they have an image of the woman and the 1st female maintenance person to become a member of parliament, a member of congress in brazil. i think that's very important also what they're doing right now, protesting and everything, but just going back once more. i think it's very important for international consumers to also understand that we cannot continue to feed and clothe and fuel

the rest of the world through the amazon because we're going to completely destroy and yeah, maybe i'd like one of you guys to walk us through this protest and what was significant about it and maybe even what was difficult about where they burned that puppet. a balls not narrow. so i'm going to show some images on my computer while i andrea, can you talk us through this? yes, yes, this was actually the biggest induce, most brought us ever in recent times in brazil despite of the damage. so it demanded a lot of organisation and security. and they were very, very successful in pressuring the supreme court and reaching out their voices for the rest of the brazilian society. so they are using this movement are every day improving their

capacity to manage a project to manage a conflict. and you are you and to do political representation and to, to, to defend their rights themselves. and they are, i think they're told me, which is, which is just brilliant. and we have to have to recognize who they are, thomas, they, they are responsible for, for, for the solutions on the ground. so dinner is also very important to see that on the ground, they are find the solutions for the severity of the climates or do nothing parchment off of the environmental law and what they doing, i forgot to say, but i think it's very crucial. is that not all indigenous lens are official, so there is a lot of land in the amazon that you needs protection. and that's one of the things that they can fight for very important create these islands while these islands are

just something i wanted to add. it's, i think it's also about democracy. you know, those people are living in very remote and proud where to go to. but i think i'm sure i have to travel like 234 days by boat, by plane, by, by roads. but it's a very, it's very difficult when you're new, very, very remote, nice to be in the democracy and what, and since we are in such a deep democratic aquatic crisis, it's very important that people seed in the boys in kidney. but also, as mia was saying and for international consumers, and to see that the need to act also to protect the people that are protecting the forest is protecting the climate. does not respond to international pressure.

the panel if it, well, it was, it was from the drop administration. he kinda did, but now he does. and especially with the microsoft agreement, which has to do with the export of amazon productions for the products. it was clear that amazon, that's also and i was not really listening to what my call michael had to say. so i don't think so. you don't think so. what about the new wasn't economic pressure. i agree with me. yeah. it seems that he pretends to, to hear if, if the reaction comes quickly. but then i, andre, i got to ended there and me, and at least i want to thank you guys so much for joining us. that's all the time we have on today show. thank you for watching, and until next time we'll see you on the street.

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