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listen. we were never on. 3 whatever road to off migration we meet with global news makers and talk about the stories on sera is a new cultural revolution taking place in china. the government is cracked out on technology, companies, education and payment, and even how long children it's been playing video games with all about this isn't like ah, ah, walk into the program. i mean, ron kon, during the past few months, china has tightened regulations and rules across many areas of society. technology, firms, education, media, few sectors have been sped. the decisions have been sudden dramatic,
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and even baffling. to some observers, the entertainment industry, the latest target regulates his band tv, talent shows, and ordered broadcast does not promote what they call a feminist looking men. actors accused of tax evasion, misbehavior about the work taken offline. the government is also crackdown on video games. children are only allowed to play up to 3 hours a week and only on weekends. the goal is to stop young people being influenced by so called negative and immoral behavior. i don't think the new regulation makes any sense, although it aims to help teenagers. however, the less accessed you get, the more curious you'll be considering that on a demo, different people have different levels of self control. and they might have different kinds of supervision from parents and care is. this is not something they can simply control. people in the in can always play on another account by a counsel metal. the sweeping measures of also talked to tech joins 10,
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said annette. these have been asked to eliminate content that promotes what are described as incorrect values, like money worship, and chinese regulators avoided the removal of right sharing company did each using from domestic app stores. it's been accused of illegally collecting and using personal information. and they've also banned the multi $1000000000.00 private tutoring sector from making profit or raising capital. some celebrity fan club website's been barred for regulators call, kale thick, find culture. and the government is promoting president, seizing pings and political ideology through its education system. children as young as tend to attend the special classes. state media says the aim is to cultivate a love for the country, the communist party and socialism. ah, that's bringing out guess anti pe, william young? east asia correspondent, c d w news. i'm president of the taiwan a foreign correspondent club in london shining lou rita in modern chinese culture
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and language at of the so dusty of london and in new york. and it's going right to and co host of the china tech investor podcasts. welcome to the program. and let's begin in london's 1st with shining lou shouting, is this the 2nd cultural revolution by increment by stealth? oh, that's pretty interesting mastering, but i'm afraid i was saying no, but i do see or read by 2 lines. nation of a socialist culture in terms of how the party managed a culture, for instance, they are the low tradition that a culture has been used as an instrument to shape people's opinions to mon, the ideal citizens. and recently we see chinese party of chinese government really put a lot of effort to rectify this local, the full cause and determine a circle online funding or my friend culture. and they even impose
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a limits on the online video game in type a william young. this seems to be aimed at no cracking down on current descent, but actually trying to avoid futures and everything they're doing. it seems to be the very young people children. and it seems to be aiming to foster a sense of love for socialism. stay and for the chinese communist party. would you agree? yeah, i think the previous person seeker has already touched on the very important point which is that there revitalizing the very essence of the socialist spirit, especially the socialist spirit in the chinese communist parties, stander and its definition. and one of the very important thing that we see in all of these crackdowns on different sectors is that they are preventing trying to prevent any force, be it a company, be at a tech tie. kern beard, a pop coke culture icon to actually become be able to mobilize a large swath of
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a social circle and society. so which is why they are trying to dissolve all these online fin groups. because some of these groups have already shown k. find that they are able to mobilize and be able to create some of the things that are considered as out of control in the government the under. and i would actually say that these, my standards can all be applied to different sectors. we see the crackdown on major tech companies and also we see the limit on the ability for the younger generation in china to be able to actually spend too much time on things that are considered as a chaos or a distraction of for the younger generation in china, let's go to new york now and eliot voluntarily. let's just talk business for a 2nd here. if you're cracking down or at least putting in from laws about screen time, for example, about access to pops those access to money culture and your
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a u. s. record executive and you're going, sean is a huge market for me. but if i'm trying to get rid of all of this, then it becomes less appealing for me to invest in from a business point of view. china is actually doing something counter productive, is the a little bit that way. i don't think she's paying look for that that way. but what we're definitely seeing is a de prioritization of or, and capital. so for much of the past 30 years, we've seen them really prioritize attracting foreign capital to china. i think that at this point, she didn't think doesn't think that, that the most important thing for china right now. and i think a really good example of this, not just the tech regulation, but just recently the black, some group have been trying to acquire the property developer soto and the black, some group. and stephen schwartz, me and they had very, very good relationship with the chinese communist party. and they had funded
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a massive math program as to why university, which is the intellectual home of the party and are sorry, black rock black. but they have not been able to secure this deal, it was denied by regulators and what i think badging is saying to support investors right now in that you know, if you want to come here and make money, you can but we're not going to cater to you the way that we used to selling lou and london, there's a real rest care that simply because this is china as the chinese companies policy, the doing it the automatically everybody is going to go. this is authoritarian, this is bad, but i'm a parent, i worry about screen time and how much my children spend on the laptops and i pads and things like that. i worry about the impact of culture. is this a very chinese way of doing it? simply what the west is doing and other ways, but just because there's a centralized culture,
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this is the only way china can do it. i'm glad you asked me the question. i'd like to say the small thinking, in fact, a partially, if the ccp in response to people, demands in the traditional chinese culture that such out saying, except for the indulgence of plain steps, ambition, this is what the parents are worrying or worried about their children. sometimes i'm really concerned about of screentime. of course, you know, you have to pull it right the opinions about the government recent measure. but sometimes i'm really happy that the government has taken this measure to been children spring time. why offers boys? they are dogs and their reservation because it's going to be effective. you know, i, i think may be, maybe this, this is an immediate solution, but it's not going to be a long term effective solution. avoidance times the children may move opportunities
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of self exploration and being stuck discipline in cetera. and another thing is i'd like to say these measure pick him by the government manifesto the so called the need, the governments because it just simply use the single master to implement the single method you know, across the board, across the country, across all kinds of video. games, by the way, these times they restrict the time, own line video game of but not on the video games, but yet there might be other solutions for you to test. you are different countries ego games because we all know some video games. games are educational, right? educational so i think the government may be a bit of too lazy this time to think about how to really effectively tackle if they have this problem. if they really, if they're really concerned about the spiritual,
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the, the house, the, the healthy citizens now in co pay william young. it's not just video games. it's not just screens. i was those d, v d they cracking down on actors that they, that the chinese communist party don't see as following their ideals. what reflexively asking to do is all your cultural icons in china who are chinese, to follow a certain model of behavior, set and mode of behavior that isn't bigger than the communist party but isn't, but it's in line would come as party values you effectively imposing culture on cultural actors and for cultures really tree breathe and these to be free. right. right. i think there is, there are 2 sides to argue against this. one site is just exactly like what you said. one of the reason why they are emphasizing the banning on the particular c ma'am, for example, man who are not looking or behaving like the traditionally very masculine way
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is because they are very concerned about the if the, the impact of the korean pop poacher and a lot of these are pop stars have created these very sometimes so called out of control of phantom culture and phantom phenomena online and they do see some destruction, for example, for it in a very small period of time, their fan online fans will be able to accumulate and gather a large amount of money to do something that are viewed as very out of control by the government. and so in order for the government to be able to actually like make sure that everything is in line with their ideals. they put up a very strict guideline and also in post them in a very strict way. and we see the most of the entertainment providers. the social media platforms are, has already stopped wrenching the like puff stars,
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which is used to be very, very popular on away for, for example. and then they have also banned all these kind of like a very competitive culture and wasteful culture inside these like talent shows. because actually these measures are having a lot of support from the chinese medicines and chinese citizens because they, a lot of the normal citizens do actually see some very toxic effect of these extreme behavior and extreme reaction to the rise of the k pop culture. and so, but i think rather than the foreign companies and flooring like entertainment providers or worrying the were those who have more concerns are actually the domestic providers and domestic entertainment producers. because they won't know when the like rules will be tightened again. or when the government will decide to impose additional measures to actually make their life and the space for them to
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operate, even hotter and smaller. so i think the unpredictability of the whole thing is actually having more effect on the domestic providers rather than 4 providers. and it's open. we make some very interesting point. disney is like, hey, we are, we have this international audience. and then we have this domestic audience as well, the international audience for like hollywood films, for example. no time to die. the new james one film had just passed the chinese sensor. it's got access now to the largest market in the world. it's going to make a lot of money. james bond is not a socialist, he's no a character the is embody socialist values in any way, shape or form. you think that aston martin is driving isn't social. but what i'm thing is that actually there seems to be hypocrisy here. the chinese are like our celebrities alliston need to be have to communist party values. yeah. however, we don't mind hollywood films being played at the cinema. but we are worried about
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bts and k pop values and the rows of that kind of culture. how much of that is to do with just simple money, like hollywood knows access to that market. i think a lot of it is about money and is about maybe the existing relationship that hollywood has with aging and with china and regulators, but a year or 2 from now we may see that another james bond movie won't be able to get in. i think that's very much a possibility, but i think another way to look at it when it comes to the kind of what i'm what says the man thing check. you can track down some of these sort of more a feminine celebrities. i think that the one thing that shouldn't be overlooked here is china, the demographic problem. and one of the reasons why i think i feel like really needs to control the culture is because they need people to have more children. the census data recently came out. i think in the spring of this year and it was far
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worse and they had even expected. and i think that right now bases regulators are panicking, and policymakers are panicking a little bit about this sort of long term demographic crisis that they're facing. and whatever they can do to try to do some more, more baby making that they're going to do. and to be honest, traditional masculinity get married and right and more if you're more a feminist or something like that, maybe that's not what you want your life. and i think that's also how they interpret this. we should be aware of say things generalization, but i will let you get away with the sounding lou in london. what we're talking about right now then, and it seems to me the all 3 of you said effectively, the same thing. this isn't a new cultural revolution. this is a reshaping reformulate formulas ation of chinese values. chinese customs is this, therefore, an ongoing project for all of you at some point and mention this is what's happening right now, but it might not be what's,
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what's going to be happening in the future. i would think these is the ongoing part of the ongoing process. as i said, the importance of the socialist culture may be the party nowadays do not use the id to anymore. but if we look at the shooting piece, 2014 talks that as a waiting for our visitor, our art on the he's specifically used to terms the good did the true, the good, the good, the beautiful, the 3 things as the essential value is that when you to advocate and so from the government perspective, for the public figures or we cause the never a tease the inferential public figures, they have a return social obligations to, to fit a sample for the moral direction of the society. i think of business fundamentals different going to difference between the socialist culture and the so called a western or a culture. or, you know,
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the celebrities. they are important not only because they produce excellent worth and, and to turning, you know, me and the tv shows but out the park. you that government has expectation of them as a person to, to they should have a coach, the moral integrity. so whoever folks, i'm who has some transgressive ass, however you would define whether it's a vision though band of or other things they may be deemed as problematic. so that's my answer. elliott's hockman, a lot of the us government has spent a long time accusing china of monitors, listing practices of dominating markets, abusing its money to dominate foreign foreign policy in africa, in south asia. and it's often complain that china has been too big to influence directly or things like this crack down, men,
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a weapon for the u. s. government uses say actually what the chinese are doing is violation of human rights. and therefore, this is something we can use to try and put pressure on them all at once. again is trying to just simply too big to put any pressure on. yeah. busy i think it's kind of a ladder. i mean, the us can say all that they want and i believe that cracked down on human rights. this is not something that i know that makes me less likely to want to live in china, i guess. but i mean the u. s. and say all that it wants and it does, it is, you know, if you look at some of the things that they've been able to levy, i think it definitely has a pressure on i'm trying to and it's officials. but when it comes down to what i can get this point, china doesn't really care like china is going to do, which i don't want. and now they're big enough. and i think she didn't thing as a political well, the political enough consolidation of power to be able to make it happen. and i think that that, that's generally where they're at right now. we mean,
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a lot of the activists that you speak to a lot of the people you speech in your course in your daily course of journalism must be very concerns. the china simply is getting away with whatever it wants. and grandpa, she is actually basically just doing whatever he wants to do is that a concern for them that they're a voice is radical. voices dissenting voices are just becoming lost. right. i think this is already a fact that we are seeing over the last few years, especially i think, after even hong kong becomes one of the biggest target for the crackdown and the extreme level of the measures that china is willing to impose on hong kong, bypassing all the existing system that are supposed to exist under the one country to system i think those who are inside china who have been experiencing this kind of very heavy handed treatment since the i think the early ninety's and the all the
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way until she pins. right. in 2012 they are basically very pessimistic about how the outside world has any. busy sort of influence in leverage to actually i think lesser some of the life i think struggle that they are facing. we are seeing a lot of the different kinds of, like, unjust is being imposed by like i think the legal system is very vague about when to detain someone and then someone can beat the tank for years before they actually finally have a sentence. and a few months after they were properly sent and they were released because they've already been jailed for years before they were actually able to have a proper trial. and a lot of these trials are actually happened behind closed doors. we're actually also seen this happening to flooring citizens, including the 2 canadians and the australian journalists can lay. so i think right
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now the, the question, the big question will be, how the international community decides to deal with china while upholding their ideals and also their values. because it seems like if they cannot hold up a very united front against china and find a very effective way to counter china, aggression and ambition, then things like the detention of the indians when we already got time. and i would like to bring shouting, lee lou here in london. channing, a similar question to you. is this about reshaping the cultural values of china or is it simply just a cracking down on future descent or is that mixture both? i would think the reshaping the culture rather as a place, a bigger part because we do have to strike a balance between the commercial and the political and the park. you have to deal
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with very difficult a task. how not to let you know the so called a captain sabbat is to, to dominate the society. but we do see very creative resist tests from a young people of times we have we have seen all kinds of lay flat hidden people just like one to my don and pass the resistance to the dire to just the high pressure of the work. so i do think that they are still possibilities. we think within china, i want to thank all i guess william yang shouting lou and eliot zach men. and i want to thank you to for watching. you can see the program again, any time this thing a web site is there a dot com for further discussion goes for facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. and you can also join the conversation on twitter. we are at a inside story for me around con and the whole team here. bye for now. the
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