thank you very much. how? sure. thank you very much. shabby or thompson in washington? also, we have now, i'll just their attachment bar. i joined us from the afghan capital campbell, he's on the phone. and so the us now admitting that innocent civilians including children, were killed in that don't draw a strike which took place in a very densely populated residential area in campbell at a time when people last still processing the upheaval of the past few weeks. tell us what the mood is like there and what the reaction to this news is likely to be. we are likely to get more statements from the autonomy, but questioning exactly what happened that particular day. when the joint attack happens, the american said that we were targeting is lot mix affiliated with the with i said, which is the ice k all the time the band came out and said that there was 2 indians

were killed in the attack, criticized the american for not sharing any evidence with coordinating with them to prevent this from happening. i think this is exactly the same now that you would like to hear from taliban about presented is tomorrow. when, when the are going to definitely look into the acknowledgement by united states of america, it comes with a very delicate bow. but now, enough of that is that where we are talking about what's next. now, with the government official that we've been talking to over the last few days about international recognition is what to do with the back is in the future. it was basically saying that it's about time for the international community to deal with us because we are the ones who have the but as you know, one of the biggest problems that many members of the. ready international community concerned about is how to do with instability in the region. how to turn the

rise of grooves. like for example, ice k. you, if you want to do that, you have to follow to which is now in the tiny but, but the international community is saying that we cannot record to buy them back. the next some concrete stuff to fill up the genuine about combating terrorism and genuine about forming an inclusive gob. thank you so much. thank you. and we'll catch up again later. appreciate ashley bye reporting is really afghan capital combo there. this after we have had developing story in the past, our sand comb saying, admitting that the us drones strike in the afghan capital called on august 29th, was a tragic mistake. 10 civilians killed in that strike, including 7 children were on that later up. the stream is next. news.

news. news. news. news. i'm josh rushing, billing, and for me. okay. and this week's bonus edition of the stream where you get a special look at the conversations we have with our guest after the live show ends coming up, we'll take you behind the scenes to hear extra from this week's conversation about brazilian politics in the amazonian environmental crisis as well as instagram live, one of the founders of the women's march in the us. but 1st, let's go to el salvador. in the live show, we debated whether the country's democracy is under threat and the after the broadcast ended. sure, this authoritarian checklist with our guest, some of the indicators of authoritarianism, include, muzzling the media,

eliminating political rivals, expanding domestic surveillance and keeping the country in a perpetual state of war a revolution. and i wanted to know how many of these does el salvador check off. but my guess paul steiner took issue with the list itself. here's what he had to say. but whose recipe is this is from something it's a post forward to i can actually pull up the science called post forward to germany, but it's been exception. it's kind of a general checklist for authoritarian bills, records, unity, governments. you have set a set of rules like that and assume that everybody starts from when you read through it or not checked most of the points, is it true or not? i had to go most or you can say yes or no. you can check most of these points if he does right. he does the starting point. you better than anybody else?

that's his lawyer. no, i mean having worked for both the right wing lawyer and left wing government, you more than anybody should be able to know that the judiciary is a real man. i personally not fixed on judges when i just when i way paul finish and then i'll give you the mike. ok paul. say your bit and then we're going to go to we were $650.00 judges that have failed. the judiciary exam at least once, and 10 percent of them have failed that every time they've taken it. we have a section in charge of supervising the judiciary and they don't, they've been shut down for years. even the section that's in charge of monitoring the lawyers has been shut down for years. and the whole thing about it is that the magistrates of the supreme court have been elected by political parties to suit

their financial providers, who are the people that they control. so nobody can argue that paul, let's see if what you just said is true. can anyone argue that jose would you argue with well, i think paul is acknowledging that it is a government who, who is sacking the judges through the legislature of course. but i think this is an important recognition and acknowledgement that it is a government that is talking a 3rd of all of all judges about that they're failing this traditional a test that the just the judiciary is been a mess for years. and this is, this is an issue. we've done several to several forums and also media. and it's because we are very worried about judicial independence in particular because this law which basically sacs any judge that is over 60 years of age, or 30 years of service or have so 30 years of service has absolutely no rational related to car. you know?

so way, way, way we listen to you, let us know that her paul was trying to argue that this, this is all done in the benefit of cleaning up but, but you have to remember that this move is preceded 1st by the sacking of the constitutional court you know, sort of other, not only were the fact, but 5 person 5 people were imposed as acting as acting justice is to, to the constitutional court. this basically means that the government, buccheri government controls the head of the judiciary. second step is now the sacking of a 3rd, a whole judges with absolutely no linkage to corruption in terms of policy objectives. why? why do i say this? because it only cuts clear in terms of age 9 in terms of merit 19 terms of possible corruption allegations 9 terms of performance. no, it's just

a clear cut in terms of let me take that back off. paul, are all these guys are failing test? are those the judges that are being removed or is it just the judges that are over 60? ok, a is making a point about sacking the judges. what the, what the president has done is he has forced a space where he is established with the congress as established a law that says that when you reach 60 or 30 years of service, you come up for retirement. and then it's an obligatory retirement unless the court all 15 magistrates decide that you're valuable and you are going to stay. so they're not automatically set the, the court has a complete those the magistrates. you said there were no, by the hardest part in that i, i don't want to overstate this but, but pull it just said expressly word by word. the precedent has decided it uses

this is i'm thing for the present. yeah, no, i understand. i understand it. i'm not even, i'm not in a court room here, we'll say no, i understand. and so i didn't make them start in the conversation. so you correct. i understand, i understand, but do you like you're not acknowledged that this is a this isn't coming from the president himself. let me ask you 2 questions to answer that one. my question answered 1st, i have 3 questions before that you never answered. first of all, is there a mechanism for taking those judges out if they're bad? yes, they are. there is work well known as the work does as note. it hasn't worked as well as it should. but yet, what is the temple office in 20 years going mingling with the fact that with the judicial support point is why the executive mingling, judiciary anyway. and again, he wanting the bad judges,

but it doesn't seem like bad is one of the requirements were being removed from the bench. it seems like age is the requirement. that's the only way to create a space for the supreme court to act and put the right people in the right place. look what we have here is a very lawyer, judges who will change. and the majority of the population is behind the progressives who want change. the problem is that once you've lost political power and you're starting to lose economic power, then you've got very little to lose. i'm sure the dinosaurs also screen really, really loud when you're at game i'm actually going to give you the last word. they're all run out of time, john, you want to jump in just for a 2nd, and then we got to cut this. yeah, no, it's just going to put that into the context we spoke to judge if there was most of the week we're salvatore. and that she also has it been corruption in the judiciary

and all of them to get that has been corruption in the judiciary. what they were all dealing with is the way in which they would be taken out. those are the 60, we're going to be forcibly retard. now pull on the one hand here is saying, well, that's the only way to get the mechanisms to get them out. working on the other hand, they were saying there has to be some sort of protocol apart from age of ways. this is just completely branded. so i think you never know why is the president not establishing ways to get out the non just late with the fact i want to share with you now few moments our instagram live series. earlier this week i spoke with sarah sophie flicker, an artist activist, and organizer of the women's march. we spoke about the latest attack on women's reproductive rights in texas, as well as the ways that art and storytelling play critical role in activism. i'm also as fire by artist and curious about what drives of creativity. so i asked

sarah where she finds her muse. for me, it's always been really about like things that i want to change in the world or things that theme, patently unfair or, and horrible. and you know, i do feel like we often like we often discount culture and it's power. and i think a lot of times policy is downstream from culture. and oh, you know, it's like the women's march for example is complicated and there are issues with it and i did many issues with anyone else. but when i found out that they were organizing around, you know, reproduce justice and abortion on october. second, i was in because i understand that like, you know, even with the supreme court, we are now stuck with an activist, very biased majority in the supreme court. and if millions and millions and

millions of people are out marching on october 2nd and saying like this is not going to apply with us. they hear that, you know, and that affects the decisions that they can and can't get away with or what they perceive. they can and can't get away with, you know, i, you know, i also think abortion especially, but, but really like anything you know, racial justice, any of it there's, you know, the right has done a very good job of like sort of encapsulating it in the morality the morality or family values or whatever. and, and i think that with stuff like this, like they don't get to own that stuff. you know what i mean? like we, i, i am the most family already. i imagine you are you, we are the most family oriented people like so just creating art and creating

content and creating tv shows, movies, music, sports, whatever, you know, whatever it is, radio stuff that normalizes. how we think about all this stuff is really powerful. you know, and while we may be getting this country, as we all know is divided has been divided historically. and now, you know, at this point we're getting 2 separate sets of news. even right. like the fact that one sided getting are totally different from the back. another cited getting but the thing that, and you can like turn off fox news or m. s nbc or cnn, whatever. but people don't turn off the radio, they don't go to sports game. i'm so out of sports, sports games, i know that's not the thing, but you know, they go to the sports game much. ready you know, but they all the things that like we look at and hear and smell and touch and see

everyday like that influences how we think about politics and each other and each other. it's humanity. and i think it's really hard to have someone who story, you know, so i'm just really a fan of like storytelling and using you know, art and theater and the after colds. you know, beckles to make statements similar to what he did on the red carpet on monday, the dra tax, the rich. yeah. your friend made that dress and my wife just yesterday. when i live with the woman who made that dress for a meeting and brilliant and smart and like a beautiful fighter in all things good and that we care about. she's wonderful. but i thought that was really powerful and i know that some people didn't like it, but i, you know, whatever,

you go on to twitter and everyone's talking about and taxing the rich and people are googling. what does that mean? you know, what do they mean by ridge? you know, it's not a national conversation that, that's something that policy can't do. you know, so i do believe in cultural organizing, i do believe in like those kinds of direct actions. i believe in beauty, i believe in art. you know, the course is tagline. it's from poem by toy derek pot and, and it is joy is an active resistance. and i have always held that really close to my heart because the whole point of all this stuff is to keep us divided and in fear and out of community and too scared to stand up for ourselves. so, you know, no one is meant to fight all the time. you know, there's gotta be joy in there. and if you look at any, you know, marginalized, we have been fighting for their survival over generations like there has to be join

in there. so i think art is like critical in these moments. if you look at the history of the abortion, it's so interesting that you know, a lot of, you know, push back on abortion originally came from people who owned in, you know, inflamed people and would get mad when black woman because herself to, you know, miss carrie or whatever have an abortion actually because it was attached to like how profitable that baby was. so there's all sorts of like awful, awful, you know, when you get deep into it, it's like all of the hoopla around abortion has as much to do with

race and control and power and money as it does with women and gender. you know, so it's all, it's all of the things. is there a definitive book on abortion that gets into the history of that that you'd recommend? yeah. although there's not like one that i can like. i know always whoa. who is the president in a role wrote a really great one last year. there's a great article in today's new york times that really get the into the way in which the right wing are right wing goes over time from like the 70s to now really weaponized abortion as a way to like create you know, right wing coalition and you know the origin story of all that really comes

back to like school segregation, which i think most people don't know. so, you know, it's why i really love like, look into reproductive or just reproductive justice organizations like this or song that are all you know, black lead and tend to do a really amazing job of connecting all the dots between this stuff. so you see the ways in which like, what's happening in texas right now, isn't just about abortion. it's also what is the point. for example, having the right to choose to have or not have a child. if you can't ultimately like raise that child without the threat of like state violence or poverty or rated them or you know, draconian immigration laws, like whatever it is, it's like all these things are connected. and i think that the more quickly we all

learn to, to see the ways in which all these things are connected, we can be in better community with each other. we can do better allies to each other and, you know, and the thing that, you know, it's slowly starting to happen, which, which i take heart in is, you know, that people are starting to realize like, let the people most impacted tell their stories. let them lead on the issues the people closest to the pain are always closes to the solution. and sometimes like, for those of us, you have a lot of privilege and resources. the best thing we can do is just like show up and listen. finally, another interview this week there was so good, we had to keep it going. it was not brazil and the amazon rain forest. rapid deforestation has many concern that the ecosystem is at a tipping point with potentially catastrophic effects. not just for the indigenous groups there,

but for the whole world because of climate change. after the broadcast, i ask are guess what kind of pressure resilient president, air bus and narrow responds to pretty direct in their answers. impeachment and i don't. i don't think we having a president that actually have a project for the country. so he has a project to, to stay in, in, in the, in, in charge. and, and i think it was, i'm sitting in the country with the president twice last administration. and it didn't make any difference. so i'm not sure present the answer either. i think, i think very clearly to intern the internal economic interests. so the agribusiness is very heavy. it was very heavy on funding his campaign. so i think he, we response to that kind of to that kind of pressure. he wants to put brazil back

on the economic mack, a map of the world. and he knows that, that comes from, for the sing more exporting, more even if it at, if it's at the cost of the amazon, where we go, i don't think, i don't think it's real. you know? i think this is like news when he reacts to something, because actually we see him, he reacting ram, he's family whose son are being investigated when he see a threat against his family. you know, and i think the only way is to get him out of the power is to do what the americans did, you know, not re electing the problem. well, is it all on both scenario though, was it was lula any better? has a, has brazilian have been any better under other administrations? i guess there is a difference between both scenario and any other governor president that took place in brazil, which is having a project of destroying this institution. he has

a man to democratic a plan, a strategy, you know. so you, you can disagree with lou with fan andre. he t with many other presidents brazil had but all of them had a project, had a plan to, to develop the country to develop the economy and both so that we can see that in both on our he wants to this try what, what we, what exists and it's very clear, if you look at a last year, we had a document about that were published from the internal auditing from the, from the only government and trying to assess the and the implementation of the environmental policy. and the own people from the government

said, well, we cannot access the implementation of the environment or policy because there was no threat of planning. there was no planning at all in the environmental ministry. so there is a clear speech again, flores against indigent people against yelling at some point thing that we need to change a low and everything. ringback but there is no thing to, to, to, for improvement or much less. and before. and just to give an example, he's ruling against the constitution. in many ways, in, in health, in education and environment, and cultural policies in all the policies that you might may imagine. where's the record on this than yes, there are many processes going on. but some brazilian papers have published,

i guess international media has been following this for, for, for many years. the number of crimes against the constitution that we say crimes of responsibility in brazil. and there, there are no excuse for not showing him. so it's like alicia was saying the beginning of the show it's a matter of political will. and when is his administration up for reelection? both allows administration. yeah. what are they up for re election next year? 2020 to next year, next year, next year. and how is he doing in the polls there? not that not good. all right, good. he's rejection levels are higher than ever. but he is he,

he's doing policy distributing budget. but did that should go to to health care, to education and to, to social assistance to, to terry's, like he's keeping himself in power by doing the political movement that was able to sustain him for more than 30 years. and you're dealing with breaking news and this information there on this issue also. right. so i think it's important to, to also as stress that resilience and mccarthy is very and you. so we have a touch of democracy. and it's important to understand that. but because we are know, in a very different situation in terms of social media and how the information is flowing and they can use being discriminated. and this is actually

having an impact on the debate. thank. you. know i was just in a, in a cab today and for guy and just name to me that it could be 19, doesn't exist in people and the government get paid for that. and it, it meant russell. it's so common or actually could be 19 is in the ration that the 1st asian is. ringback also an invasion. so that's why we need to, to we all the people that are talking about different stations. we always have very strong data. and we always need to, to be very sure of the information that we, we assuming aching in the fact is that kind of losing the,

the narrative with those 25 percent the soon as possible. so now, well that's our show for today. thanks for watching and we'll see you next time. ah ah, ah ah ah, there is a huge group of people at work behind our screens and the power they have is massive. that urge to keeps whiting through your twitter feed design. the way we click, i agree to the terms and conditions that's designed, and most of us never even give it a 2nd. and actually, that's designed as ali rigs is. how designers are manipulating behavior in the

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