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now. we know what's happening in our region. we know how to get to places that others can. all, i was just the guy by the put he's on purpose. if i don't i'm going. i'm the way that you tell the story is what can make a difference and the conflict of face and you sanction us surge is all sides. and ethiopia, he great region negotiate peace. but will the threats be enough to stop many a year of fighting? that isn't i thought a walk into the program. i'm iran con us present. joe biden is adding pressure on all sides to end the fighting. and if you have his northern region,

he signed an executive order threatening new sanctions against the ethiopian and era trained government leaders of if yo p, m, our region and the t great people's liberation front biden says if he is delaying aid to people, displaced by the conflicts while he grain rebels, welcome the announcement in europe, his prime minister accused the u. s. and the west of chastising his government, ibm, it says the international community is not doing enough to hold c grain rebels. accountable will bring in august in just a moment, but 1st this report from she had a tendency in washington. this is not the imposition of sanctions, but another threats of sanctions. president biden's, executive order empowered the state department of treasury to be able to sanction those seen in the future to be standing in the way of a negotiated piece in the future on all sides. but no deadline has been announced if the government of ethiopia and the to great people's liberation front, take meaningful steps to enter into talks with out preconditions and allow

unhindered humanitarian assistance. the united states is prepared to mobilize assistance for the opiate to recover and revitalize its, its economy and build a future for his people. straight about what officials say they fear prime minister, i'll be on want to declare victory over the, to crow and peoples with a ration from when he sworn into office on october the 4th. they also fed the t p. i will do all it can to prevent that. the u. s. does have a great deal of leverage over the future and government that so far it hasn't used much of a fuel success in the us has been in terms of trade. it's industrial parks occupied by america, not multinational. it's benefiting from this tax benefit, those that introduced 2 decades ago. and there was a fear that would be withdrawn. but that did not happen. and there's a relief and the stuff of just why the president and the administration of those 9 to be opened to us interventions that are samantha power

u. s. id. it hasn't imposed punishing sanctions on the if you can government. and let's say there are multiple reasons for washington's caution. ethiopia is the u. s . main ally and the strategically important horn of africa and key to its projection of power across the region. ethiopia is also important to us as warren tara, an important component against our bob in somalia. and now that us troops officially withdrawn permanence abbey, i'm. it is also deregulating and privatizing ethiopian economy. after decades of central planning, which is beneficial for us multi nationals, and perhaps most importantly, even as if you're pure receives hundreds of, of dollars from the u. s. if the key trading partner and investment destination for china, and as the biden administration is clearly demonstrated, this is not a white house that will take a further integration of addis ababa and beijing. well, she ever times the al jazeera washington. let's take a closer look at the conflict n t gray, which is now and it's 11th month. the t great people's liberation front had

dominated ethiopians politics. but any 30 years until prime minister abbey, on the, came to power in 2018. last november. we ordered a military operation against the group, which had retreated, fatigue, right, accusing it of attacking a federal military base and killing soldiers. since then, the complex has killed thousands of people and left nearly a 1000000 in famine like conditions. the un says more than 2000000 people have been displaced. now in june, the african union launched an independent inquiry into the reports of human rights violations and retrained forces who were sent to see great when the conflict 1st began. i've also been accused of rights abuses. ah, let's bring in our guest. joining us from erissa in turns in is allow them, lucas. and if you open international lawyer and i, roby william davidson. if you're a senior analyst at the international crisis group and in washington dc, david sion, a former us ambassador to if you're

a warm welcome to all of you. let's begin in washington dc. first with david chen, david, is this the threat of sanctions in order to pay like the u. s. is doing something or is an actual real threat? i think this is an actual real track. it is important to underscore that these are not sanctions or say, this is the laying of the legal ground work to were meant sanctions at some point in the future against all parties, or either out holding up a negotiated settlement on the one hand or, or somehow interfering with the resolution of the managerial crisis in northern ethiopia. but it's for real. this is, this is not a publish them. but what's driving it, david then why now? well, it's really a continuation of ongoing activity by the united states under the, by and ministration. they haven't quite active and trying to just some kind of

end point. she's fire you well, and to open up the managerial orders or that there are different a roach. this isn't going on every sunday, almost the an observation of, of joe biden. so i would suggest that this is new at all on the mortgage in russia. how much of this, of the open government actually going to pay attention to? if you use a key trading partner, it's a key ally. they say this is just a simple threaten, won't take it that seriously perhaps was i think it's important not that it didn't come. i did indeed have the one who was waiting for it, including the government for quite some time. it didn't get it that we know the content, they just called jeff yesterday for many europeans,

including the government. the executive order is just another indication or. and then the other didn't of the un guided party. he wanted to kill him many europeans and including the government. they believe that the executive order is grounded not ineffective, but by loving it and to be able to get into court for the government. these executive order is going to it doesn't take into account the fact when they're drawn and if they don't get punched in then for the cubans it's like it's like treating kind of like the cleaning. so i don't think the government, if you think if you're, if the, i don't think the government really please in from doing what, what is it correct. so i think

i might not bring it up. and i be if we can, executive order came back to where the government is, mobilizing hundreds of thousands learned, put your phone and. busy david guest in russia that has said the policies misguided, what do you make up? our friend and a risha is simply pointing out why many in the government of ethiopia are saying. and what many of in dash are are saying. i have no idea whether he personally believes that or not but if, if he personally believes. ready that i think that there is a misunderstanding in terms of what the united states is doing. i think the united states does have access to independent information on what is happening here. and

it's making its determination based on what it sees as facts on the ground. and interpret those. ready different lay and different ways depending upon are you shipping or you, stan, but i don't think it's i don't think the u. s. position is based upon bad information from misguided individuals. i think it's based on some actual facts. william davidson in nairobi. sanctions like the threat of sanctions when it comes to a key line of the us like if you're here, what is the purpose here of sanctions? is it simply a slap on the rest, or is it something like davy chin says much more serious. and i think the purpose of the sanctions is, or the potential sanctions is pretty clearly articulated and the executive order.

and they are because of, and let's just say various human rights concerns about the conflict and that's directed it at all. the main part is there a trend? government, the government will so i'm har as governments and then the main opponent, the t p. last, or the grace former government and the ambition from the united states and or the concern is that all parties are still doing a military solution, new united states, along with other international actors and voices, including including my organization, international crisis group. we believe that the main priority here should be a cessation of hostilities and then for all parties to focus on the humanitarian crisis, which is a slick thing to gray and has been affecting the grey for many months. but it also now afflicting neighboring regions to gray. and i'm hora after the 2 great forces

went on an offensive in july. in addition to a cease fire, people want to see if your peers political parties and who are at war at a civil war. they want them to try and go back to peaceful politics, to return to the negotiating table. the try and come to some source of resolution on the political issues, the electoral constitutional disagreement that led to this war and also the broader political problems. now the is, is the us going to be successful with the threats of sanctions, or the actual application of sanctions on individuals connected to this civil war, to convince them to change their stances. and whilst that international crisis group, we are very hopeful that a cessation of hostilities is pursued both by the great leadership also by the federal leadership. at the moment it does tragically look like continuing warfare

is the option. i think the intentions are clear here of the, of the us and the reasons for that action. a clear what is not a tool clear is whether they are going to be successful in getting the passes off the part of the company. let them in a russo, if you pieces foreign nation. why should the us be involved? well, i think they should be involved in the process because it's a long time in your life and us our commission and i did when i felt the concern again, i think there is no question about the need for us if you want them. and the question is, how they like, how should they maintain impact the company, the company didn't know,

did not get to touch on part of november. but for many europeans they went to see you taking the company. i thought to call in for the day. but i think it didn't copy any context, many job. they are saying that he was in power for 27 years. and in that country dictatorships and everybody knows that it's a very well known devil. it's not just a devil. so what they say is that then you went to the understand the context to make the company a lot of the context is this thousands of people have been killed yet a 1000000 been left in nearly famine like conditions. and the un says that more than 2000000 have been displaced. that's a bit more than just a form of government. this is a crisis and it needs action now was mapping. yes,

but i think we should understand that the content includes not only that you might have here in crisis, but also the water and the background of the war. what is missing in the you with the product in understanding the background information? what need to the war? why, you know what, the, what the, what we should understand we should question, why did they, what was the reason why if your kids are being more and more policy what you're going, i think that that's the issue that people in the 50 bucks and should consider and on it to the output, of course, that he made but documented humanity is that he's up of the war and the what is that? so there is a chain chain of faxes and we cannot keep them on november. and it was due august to going through the background information and that's what the

government pays, and i think they have them to the their, davidson. i mean, it is obviously a very clear and key ally to the united states. this is a way of putting pressure on all parties, not just the government, which the returning government on the left, but all parties to try and come to as william davidson says, a c sation of hostilities. that's really the beginning point of any negotiation. do you think the u. s. david is going about this the right way? i think it's going about it. the only way realistic play. no one can at the moment . don't think united states alone can determine the outcome of what happens. it's going to require the effort so many outside layers plus a certain willingness by all the parties, any p o p, a compromise,

which comes very hard for so i think tonight in states is doing what is often not always, but often does in an effort to try to encourage a negotiated solution to the problem. in addition to dealing with these monetary and prices, and i can't under state the concern that the u. s. has about the amount of terry and prices. the u. s. is the largest donor of humanitarian assistance today. and it has traditionally been the largest donor or many decades. this is important to the united states and it does not like to see this effort basically result in a worse situation than it has been dealing with for decades. on the issue, i want to say one comment on the issue of context. i agree that the united states needs to put all of this in context, but i would disagree that it is picking it up from november for last year. we know

what happened then since 991 and even before. ready that it's also part of the context that the t p l f was the leading layer and the p o p, and people's revolutionary democratic from 1991 to 2018. and that's a fact. and we had to deal with government for all of those years. so that's context to william davidson. one of the things, i guess the resa is saying is that this isn't a unpopular policy almost across the board with if you open are you hearing that you finding the this executive order, this threat of sanctions is actually an unpopular policy. and i think that's probably some sort of reasonable assessment. he to the public opinion. but it is very hard to tell. i'm in any opinion polls, for example, on the matter that very few and far between many and what we should note is just how polarized the political scene is and of course,

like many other countries. but suffice to say, there are those who support this war and those who don't and the support to the sanctions will break down roughly along those lines. i think, you know, from the people in gray who i mean the attitude, the sanctions is going to be different for the different parties of the war for different reasons, but they will oppose it. so there's a potential for them to be sanctioned. but across europe is political landscape, there are those constituencies which are more inclined to support the war. i think, in a horror region, we see quite strong support the war, very strong opposition to the t p l f. that's sort of positioning, and i'm har. region is matched in urban areas such as i did saba, also amongst ways of the tspra, i think, as we go into or mia and whether it's fairly large opposition support. we believe

the have concerns about the war. they already have their own concerns and reasons for opposing government. that does not mean they support a t p, but they may be but they may be less supportive of the war. and therefore, you're less concerned about this sort of us potential action including against federal officials. so i think it's clear why a lot would take that stance. it's also clear that there is plenty of very strong opposition. this type of us action as the would be anywhere this type of us action, but he is polarized. that means that there are lots of different opinions across the country as well. i'm. i'm going to come to you in one second, but i want to go to davidson 1st in washington, d. c. when we talk about sanctions, when we talk about threat sanctions, this doesn't happen in a vacuum. this will be part of the state department's overall strategy in ethiopia . they'll be conversations going on with as many parties as the u. s. can try and reach out to do you think that's actually happening?

happening in tandem with this executive order is the us speaking to as many people as possible i believe they are it's, it's also a process that very much involves the treasury department because these are targeted sanctions against largely against individuals. or at least that seems to be the basis for the executive order. there are also sanctions that involve series of economic issues such as trade blanks, bank accounts, and united states by any of the individuals in ethiopia who are deemed to be violating the sanctions. some of it concern his visa policy, which persons will be allowed to enter the united states if they are deemed to be violating sanction. so it's and involves a lot of activity in both the treasury department and the state department where

you can be assured there's an ongoing conversation. ready there, but i suspect there's a great deal of conversation involving the intelligence agencies and any other element of the u. s. government on the ground and that has an understanding of the situation. there was a lot of them you think of the u. s. doesn't have an understanding of the situation on the ground in ethiopia that it's actually thinking short term. is that right? yes, i'm going to be in my person. i do. i think the weather does not. and it's my understanding actually, but does not fully understand contacted and the fact that on the ground, and it has been treating the tuition because was like sometime they went up, they become again, it's violating. right. which is okay. but on any way they happening to try or when they are way when, when they come to me 1st thing they with what finally,

when monica been, betty, they have been even like 2 weeks they go, pondered people were killed in the village. but nobody the book i gave the 5 and right. and then when i'm invited, i'm what our region matter and it's although they inventing for region. so they thing to be done. does that you would really understand what's going on, even it's no longer a graduation is then if you think not only but also other people, how to conduct part, who so i see i really think that as they was increasing the situation, very many people who might decide because that should help and but sometimes even if you have the back to the way up to them,

maybe different and we might have a different outcome. so i truly believe that there is a problem there. they should try to get this done. why, for example, just that after the executive order that you pulled up? well, we're wanting to william davidson in nairobi. william, one of the things you said earlier was about the sensation of hostilities. that's the priority. get everybody to stop fighting, having heard other to guess. do you think that's going to happen in the short term? well, we hope so, but it does need a significant rethink from the, the key actors here. and i think if you look at the, the offensive from the great forces into our on a far and they say this is to, to break the seeds that they say the federal government has inflicted upon them. they also say they are trying to retake territory in west integrate that i'm,

our region is now administering, backed up by ethiopian an era try and troops. and so these are the objectives of the gray and leadership and that is needing that it's very strong mobilization. that is a lot and has referred to. so i think what we need to happen here at lee is if there was some action on the humanitarian situation. so the federal government allowing unhindered access, restoring some vital services to, to grey telecoms and electricity banking cars that take great forces then agree to pause the offences and to begin to withdraw their forces into great itself. that could be the sort of bargain that we need to kick up the beginnings of a piece process. get a sensation of possibilities and allow the monitoring situation to be prioritized that would still leave very difficult political security issues such as wes, than pig right. where there was no easy resolution,

but i think if the patrol government find the ability to prioritize the situation and to great give up on the concerns that humanitarian actors and supplies may be boosting of rebellion. prioritize to 1000000000 lies that could we get a positive response from the pay grade leadership needing to association of possibilities and then a more sustained piece process. i want to thank all our guess, zelan morgan and russia. william davidson in nairobi. and in washington, d. c. david shell, and i want to thank you to for watching. you can see the program again anytime by this thing a website out is there a dot com and for further discussion, go to our facebook page at facebook dot com forward slash ha inside story. and you can also join the conversation on twitter. we are at a jason hard story for me and wrong. com. and the entire team hit the

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