tv [untitled] September 19, 2021 10:30pm-11:01pm AST
10:30 pm
in paris, shoot down into the atlantic shortly before sunset with its jovial crew accessing the craft less than an hour later. what's being called the 2nd space age is now underway. elixir bryan l. jazeera. so more and everything right here. algebra dot com. and i'll have a headline for you next. a just a quick top stories in afghanistan, the health system is a breaking point. now large children, as well as those infected with measles, are filling up hospitals across the country. medical supplies, of course, low. many doctors have fled. unicef is wanting that children could now die if they don't get access to urgently needed a. meanwhile, women have been rallying in the capital combo against the taliban restrictions on their involvement and public life. the protest came of the inter mayor of combo
10:31 pm
female employees to stay at home demonstrates is one, right? employment and education protected study, half. but in his long women i give them more rights. why are they taking our rights? we need to schools for ladies to reopen again. women should go back to their jobs. all the employees should go back to the job and they should start walking as they used to. we are not asking for anything else. we need a human right. exit polls in russia suggest i didn't pretend united russia party will win the parliamentary election with around 45 percent of the vote. that would be a slump of almost 10 percent in the last election. in 2016. counting is on the way across the country. following the 3 day poll, most crammed in critics were bod, from running after a year of crackdowns, and the numerous reports of irregularities including ballots stuffing and force floating. but the electoral commission says the complaints a part of a well financed campaign from abroad. the u. s. has started flying some of the
10:32 pm
thousands of undocumented migrant sheltering under a texas bridge back to haiti. an estimated 14000 people are staying at a makeshift camp in the border town of del rio, where a state of emergency has been declared opposite being blocked from crossing the rio grande day. and around a 1000 people are being evacuated from their homes officer volcanic eruption on the spanish canary islands. it follows a week of increasing seismic activity on the island of la palmer, 500 kilometers off the coast of west africa. some lava flows, now witching isolated homes, but most of the islands, $85000.00 residents, and not set to be at risk. the volcano convey via national park last erupted 50 years ago. do you stay with us coming up next? talk to al jazeera with the un secretary general antonio, good terrorist, there will be more news off that i'll see you later. bye. for now. me. ah,
10:33 pm
ah ah, ah, ah, in 1945. the atrocities and consequences of world war 2 forced the leaders of the day to find a new diplomatic channel to negotiate international peace security and cooperation initiative lead to what we know today as the united nations and replace the existing league of nations. today, the u. n. has 193 member states and it's led by its chief administrative officer, the un secretary general. since its creation, they're benign, un secretary general, working alongside government to secure peace and stability around the world. from was to genocide, invasions migration,
10:34 pm
natural disasters and health crises. the u. n. has tried to find solutions and provide assistance to tens of millions. the role has been famously described as the most impossible job on earth. but how does the current secretary general antonio could terrace see his position in today's world? head of the un 76 general. assembly terrace discusses the recent development in afghanistan, climate change. and of course, the cobra 19 pandemic. is the world going in the wrong direction? the un secretary general antonio terrace talks to al jazeera ah un secretary general antonio terrace. thank you for talking to out his era. you've almost completed your 1st 5 year term, the secretary general, and congratulations in june. you were elected for another 5 years. the 1st un secretary general, that all which and trick the lee famously described it as the most impossible job on earth. so how, how hard is it being un secretary general?
10:35 pm
well, on one hand, it's a difficult job. on the other hand is a fascinating job. we will not be able to solve all the problems of human kind and the power of the secretary generally is much smaller than what people think i'm in member states are in command of the falls. the secretary general is the chief executive officer. and the only thing i have is the possibility of good offices. but i mean, whenever we are able to do something that ends up conflicts, or whenever we are able to do something that the increase humanity needs to a population in distress. or whenever we are able to do something to make sure that the governments do innovation to climate change, what they are supposed to do. i mean, this is extremely rewarding. whatever we can do. sometimes for one person. when you cannot save the world, but whatever you can do to help the life of individual people. and i was i
10:36 pm
commissioner for refugees for 10 years. it's a fascinating job. one thing that clearly has been taking up a lot of your time in recent weeks is the taliban takeover in afghanistan. tell me about that. what war is you most about? what could come next? but i'm any worries. the situation is unpredictable. and what i understood was that some people think the when can solve all the problems i've got, is that now they say, or no one is the organization that's fish enough time. so you are going to solve all the problems that others for 20 years were not able to do so. even if they had hundreds of thousands of soldiers or premiums of different currencies to spend. no, it is clear that our leverage is very limited. but we are totally committed to support the african people. and so that's the reason i think we were the 1st,
10:37 pm
the international guys ation that sent a high level delegation to couple. and that's engaged directly with the taliban to allow for many teddy and a to be effectively distributed to the african people. now, what i'm afraid is that all these efforts might say what i'm afraid is the because the situation is unpredictable that there will be a disaster if there will be an inclusive government enough that he's done. it would be a disaster if the economy would collapse. it would be a disaster if the rights of women and girls would be dramatically violated to be resolved. that if there is an association school operate again from a gun is done. and i think we need to do everything possible to reach the opposite to push for the taliban to understand the importance of an inclusive government. that takes into account the diversity of the different groups that do everything
10:38 pm
possible for the parliament to understand that it is essential to respect a number of basic rights of women and girls. i mean, nobody wants all things possible that kinda stuff becomes an order of the country, but there are basic rights direct of women to work. the right goes to study that it's very important that they understand that essential to do everything. we can to persuade them that the fight against batteries be something, you know, they must be united with the whole of the international community. so knowing that we don't know what the future will bring. i know one sink. if we don't engage, we'll get nothing. if we engage and that's the same time, if we prove out added value by providing humanitarian needs to people that is in a domestic situation with millions and millions on the verge of dying because of hunger. if we don't do these, then it is clear that things cannot move in the right direction. so it's all duty
10:39 pm
to do everything possible to support the african people and to help create the conditions for those concerns that everybody has about terrorism, about human rights, about the v t to materialize. you've mentioned the prospect of a total collapse of the economy. we've already seen the batman banking system, enough chemist on is barely functioning. what would a collapse look like? and what would it mean in terms of refugees in the region? and even as far as a field is yura, it would be a total disaster. it would be lots of people dying and i believe a massive out flow into the neighboring countries with the audible consequences for the stability of those countries. so i think it's very important to avoid that collapse. i've been saying that the humanitarian aid is essential. but at the same time, it's necessary, and of course, there are ways to do so even in respect for international law, it's essential to inject some cash to allow the african economy to breeds. and
10:40 pm
to avoid the kind of collapse that will have devastating consequences. when we go back 20 years to 911, you were the leader of the nato country. you were the prime minister of portugal. since then, you've been the high commissioner for refugees visiting afghanistan. many times. few people have the same insight as you and what happened in afghanistan. tell us in your view, what went wrong. i think everything went wrong. such the idea that the african people can be ruled from outside. i'm in the british strides and say the russians tried and failed the soviets at the time. now the americans tried and said the african people is the people who is any proud and they have lots, lots of problems among themselves. but they have even more problems with the idea that it can be dominated from the outside. on the other hand, i think that there was too much military action and not enough
10:41 pm
support to building institutions. i mean, unfortunately the, the, the but i've gotten is been leaders. what also the violin we had to elections with contested results. probably the model of election that was up to the gun he's done that was a unitary system, was not the most adequate for the country that he saw the centralized. so the truth is that there was a huge this functionality in the government and we have seen it in the relations of the presidents with an international community. looked at it without any capacity to really allow things to, to improve. and so all these sort of julie is accumulated, and in the end we had the what we heads, and we had it in a, in a very chaotic way that nobody was what caustic. i think it was impossible to, to, to think that anatomy of hundreds and thousands of people with the best equipment that was, it would disappear in 7 days. some here in the u. s,
10:42 pm
saying nato in the u. s. shouldn't have been doing nation building. you seem to be saying they should actually have been doing more nation building and less bombing people and fighting nation building is probably the wrong concept. i think what is important is to create the conditions for a country to find its own way. the problem of nation building is that sometimes we try to impose a model copied from other parts of the world in which the cultures, the social relations, the ethnic diversity are completely different. so we need to act with the people of a country and the standing, the people of the country, understanding their culture, understanding their traditions, understanding that history and obviously helping them to adapt to the modern times. but not trying to project on them. what we are in 2001,
10:43 pm
the un envoy then like tara, he played a central role in bringing different political figures together and forming a government. this time it seems to you and is focusing on the humanitarian side. yet the taliban did say at one point they wanted an inclusive government to come up with a cabinet. the only includes members of the taliban should the us not be playing a similar role now trying to nudge the taliban in that to retro was a different situation. it was a situation in which that was the creation of conditions for after the defeat of the taliban, the creation of conditions to bring together the different groups that work together. in the construction of the defeat novel situations, completely different insoluble one. and obviously the, the tale button do not accept that, that is an entity that will be now brokering an agreement. what is important
10:44 pm
is to express to them clearly our point of view that in the interest of afghanistan and in that interest is very important. that the different ethnic groups that are presented in the government of the country. this is an illustration that they need to do by themselves. and at the same time that is important, wherever women presence in the structures of power of the country un officials have been engaging. as you say, with the taliban, you say it's important to engage. and yet when you look at the cabinet members of the taliban government, 33 cabinet members, many of them are on the un sanctions list, including the prime minister, both the deputy prime ministers and the foreign minister. isn't that? doesn't that make things difficult for you? first of all, do meditating, principles are clear. you meditate in action, is based on him, but shall into no, tell it the and the benson needs based approach. and any money to an action, you need to speak with everybody. you even have to speak with terrorist
10:45 pm
organizations when necessary to provide the sisters to people. do you believe the taliban is still a terrorist organization? as it has been judged in the past? i think the tale by now want to rule the country and we don't know what's going to happen. as i said, the situation is unpredictable. but i think that, that he's at least a part of the leadership of the tale about that would like to have got his done as a country recognized by the international community and would be ready to pay a price for that. you say part of the leadership in your assessment, how united is the taliban right now? well, we know that it's the news that that are complex negotiations in the formation of the government. so it is clear that the group that was formed as a tale button was formed is not exactly like a social democratic part. the northern europe. i mean, it's a group, i'm sure, with divisions with different perspectives. people at fault in different areas of
10:46 pm
the country with different ethnic groups. so i mean, it would be an illusion to sink that. we are dealing with a monolithic institution. i was in geneva a few days ago and i watched you launch your flash humanitarian appeal for afghanistan. and i heard you say about the african people, they want their lives and basic freedoms to be protected. they want what every member of the human family wants and deserves. but in that speech and every time i've heard you talks recently about afghanistan, there's one word you don't mention. democracy has the international community now given up on the idea of democracy for us on the stone. i think what is essential at the present moment is to get in tea. that basic human rights, special for women and girls are respected. that is my main concern. on the other hands for the stability of the country, it's important that the country is inclusive to think that we will witness
10:47 pm
immediately a process of construction of a liberal democracy like exists. you know, that was a sort of democracy wasn't perfect, but liberal democracy. i think it would be totally life depth. we want the government to be inclusive and at the want the government to accept, for instance, freedom of expression that we want the government to respect the rights of women and girls. these up steps the thought important in line of the market, the mccarthy view of the world. but we have no illusions that a typical liberal democracy will work immediately in i've got to start and that's to be honest. there are many countries in the world where that doesn't happen. well, let me talk about some of the countries around the world where democracy is potentially under threat. we've seen coups in mali, myanmar, guinea. we've seen the suspension of parliament into nicea the assassination of the prime minister in haiti. how worried are you about democracy in the world?
10:48 pm
i'm very words. i think that natalie, democracy. i'm worried with the fact that more and more we see poet taken by force . and i see the visions is increasing within societies, polarization of society and the death of truce when the same facts is described in totally different ways by different politicians and different groups within the society population. since phobia racism, i think there is a number of serious threats that are happening to the in the developed world in traditional liberal democracies that are serious threats that need to be faced. in a matter of weeks, it will be the 1st anniversary of the clashes in tea grey and of the military intervention by ethiopia. in the early stages, i know you used your relationship with prime minister abbey ahmed to try and calm
10:49 pm
things down. he told you that there were no retrench troops in the country, and yet they were, they were executing people. they were raping people. he told you he was going to open up humanitarian access. that still hasn't happened. tell me, are you disappointed in the european prime minister? i am disappointed with your situation in general. it shop units have in my opinion, fame in their capacity, whether s the, the problems of that on diversity. and i'm very worried about the situation. because we have been engaging most the government prime minister and the people at martin griffin visited the leadership of the p l. f. and as you have, as you know the when i made the appeal for fire for free, you meditating excess, said to all it is a 30 tory and for the beginning of a it took in lead dialogue. we received the letter from the leadership of the,
10:50 pm
of the t p l f. i mean, showing that interest also incorporating with us. so that emma is that i think both sides are still convinced that can win the war. and i'm deeply convinced that there is no military solution. i don't think that it is possible to be fit the p l f in today, namely the because it is clear that they are very strongly integrated into society and that they have a real fighting capacity. and i also think that there is no way that the grahams can rule it as to a certain extent they did in the past. so it is obvious, there is no military solution, and it is obvious that they need to together. we hope that the you minutes had an excess would be the way to facilitate c. and the truth is that we still do not see the will to stop the war and come to a serious dialogue for
10:51 pm
a solution. i hope this will happen sooner rather than later because the risks, 40 job yet are huge and a collapse of job you would be a disaster for the region. and to be tragic for the champion people, jeffrey feltman, the us special envoy. he actually said this dramatic quote that eat the pier could make syria look like child's play. do you agree? i'm afraid if, if there would be a collapse in it, job you with the complexity of the job you society. i think that image would probably be a g 1. 1 conflict which has looked more hopeful this year is libya because you had the formation of a new national unity government. you had a roadmap towards elections bought. you still have the foreign forces there, and you don't seem to have an agreement yet to hold those elections in december.
10:52 pm
not, you know, to move got an agreement of what sort of elections are going to be presidential or parliamentary, or both. or you were at the progress you've seen this year could now unravel. i'm worried about speech. it's good that the fighting did not resume its good. that i feel that there is a kind of equilibrium that doesn't allow easily for a full start of the coffee. because it was in the past, but the truth is that we are not making progress in the legal constitutional less gets along for the elections take place. i believe that we must make immediate progress at least on making some of the mercenaries leaves. but our objective remains the same. libya must be a sovereign independent country. there is no room in libya for foreign mercenaries of foreign troops. the warlord holly for hafta looks like he wants to be the
10:53 pm
president wants to run for president. he, someone who clearly has blood on his hands, he's been accused, or some of his forces have been accused of war crimes. should someone like that be eligible for high office in libya? this is something the libyans need to the side. and this is one of the things the libyans are discussing at the present moment. and it is obvious for me that we should have a presence of libya, someone that will deserve the consensus of the libyan society. that will be, in my opinion, the best solution. will that be possible? i hope it will. i think leave you need someone that unites the country instead of someone that divides the country. let's move to cobra 19 and you're aware that some parts of the world but getting back to normal, they think covered 19 is over. do you agree? no coffee, 900 is not over. covered 19 has been a terrible demonstration of the failure of human, sorry, that it. these was
10:54 pm
a terrible ethics text that the international community has failed. i've been asking for months for a global vaccination plan. i've been asking for months for an emergency task force and the, the 20 that went all the countries that are in order to be able to double the production of x teams and to get into an equitable distribution of vaccines. this is not happening. we have seen vaccine, national isn't that vaccine diplomacy, but we are not seeing people coming together and finding a common solution and this is a tragedy. and unfortunately the coffee has not been defeated. the problem is we all know that the challenges we face cannot be solved by a country by country basis. we all agree that we need multilateral institutions to address the common challenges of the world's. the problem is that po multilaterally mis notice, look at will, does organization,
10:55 pm
they cannot even get the information. they need her. they cannot even do an investigation of a situation our multilateral institutions have, as i said, notice. and sometimes when they have to use, there's not much will to bite as it is the case of the security goals course as one global crisis that is worse than cobra 19. and that is the climate crisis. you have the cop meeting coming up in glasgow in just a matter of weeks time and you've been talking about mistrust taking place between the developed world and the developing world. do you think that could derail any agreement? and how serious would that be for the world? it can, and this would be extremely serious and we must avoid it. we must establish trust. i think it's important that developed countries understand that the need to do more in support of developing countries, namely fulfilling the commitments made in paris that's going beyond that, that international financial institutions. it will be much more active in support
10:56 pm
of developing countries that support needs to be concentrated, not only on reduction of emissions, but also on what we call the station, which means building resilience of communities of infrastructure. helping up in countries resist to the impacts of already existing climate change. and that's where seen the vulnerability is everywhere. we are in new york, even here we have some heavy rain and 45 people died in the region around new york. i mean, even the most important financial center in the world is vulnerable to climate change. so it's tied to the developed countries to understand that they need to also invest in adaptation in resilience, in changing infrastructure in creating new forms of organization of societies. in the developing world that lacks the resources to do so. and finally, it's important also that the some emerging economies of the developing world. but that's up to date because of that i mentioned big meters make an extra effort.
10:57 pm
because for instance, with the number of coal power plants that is plan today in the world, we would not only not reach $1.00 degrees or would not normally be below $1.00 degrees of increase. the temperature in the under the center would not be below 2 percent. we will be completely and the mining the pet is agreements. so there must be an efforts, an effort from develop and developing countries to bridge the gaps, a thrust that still exist, and to understand that each one must do more. finally, 2nd general, we've mentioned that your 2nd term starts soon and it ends in 2026. by then the u. n. will have had a man in charge for over 80 years. how important is it that your successor is referred to as matter? secretary general, i think it's something that makes full sense and i have to say that i've done a lot in order to make sure that gender equality agenda parity is the,
10:58 pm
i would say the symbol of these organizations. we have now gender parity in the 180 leaders of the u. s. u. s. system. and then our coordinators around the world. i have pushed forward a very strong policy in gender equality. there is only one thing i cannot do is to be a woman. so i am a man, but gender parity and gender equality for me, an absolute priority because gender equality is a method of power. and the method of power, you know, wolves that is male dominated and with a culture that is male dominated. and it is essential to changes antonio terrorist secor, generally benighted nations. thank you for talking to l. just. it was an enormous pleasure to be with you again. ah
10:59 pm
ah, ah. ah, frank assessments were against freedom, surprising informed opinions. what you saw happening is come months if there was 40 to come up with to the critical debate that we are here. it's not between kula and any other group that we have corporate here between 34 years. re running that even people in depth analysis of the days global headlines inside story on our jazeera, i care about helping us engages with the rest of the world. i cover foreign policy, national security. this is a political in house here in the past. like,
11:00 pm
are we telling the good story? we're really interested in taking you to a place that you might not visit otherwise. it's actually feel as if you were there . ah, me no mariam nemiah's in london elmaine story. now afghan histones health system is a breaking point malnourished children, as well as those infected with measles, of filling up hospitals. the already overwhelmed essential medical supplies of critically low and many doctors of left the country. unicef forms that children could now die if they don't get access to urgently needed aid. shamal bara has this report now from the hospital in cobble and gasping for this child is in critical condition of his no ventilator.
14 Views
Uploaded by TV Archive on