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it's talk to, aren't you sarah? to say that a to planes came from so there are 15 men checked patel in this new jersey missing for 5 days. it is possible to fully clean a premises all forensic evidence. but what you then leave is evidence that you have for the claims administration. wanted to give some, i'm speaking about the role element before, even the government up with the jamal cushion, angie murder in a saudi consulate on our jazeera, with the i've got to stop is a landlocked nation, surrounded by 6 countries. it's longest border is shared with pakistan. so the recent taliban takeover and cobble presents a new geo political challenge was lam about and the region at large. on august, the 15th taliban fighters arrived at the gates of the african capital after

a rapid advance across the country, american troops were pulling out after 20 years, and the democratically elected president, ashe, rough ghani, had fled the country, the international community food, a possible power vacuum in afghanistan and what it could bring, the taliban marched into cobble 20 years after being forced out. as the news was breaking thousands of afghans rushed to cobbles airport, hoping to leave the country at any cost. thousands headed to border crossings in the following days, while regional leaders worried about a possible flow of refugees. the un estimates up to half a 1000000 afghans could flee the country by the end of the year. that's on top of the 2200000, who already been forced into neighboring countries because of decades of conflict. but for the region, this is not only a humanitarian crisis, in addition to the health risk brought about by coven 19. they're also major security concerns. pakistan host the highest number of african refugees,

nearly 1500000. so where does the pakistan government stand on the taliban takeover as world leaders gathered in new york for the 76 un general assembly afghanistan dominated the agenda. and that's where we caught up with the pakistani foreign minister sharma, mood, correct? she talks to al jazeera ah sharma. correct. she's foreign. busy minister of pakistan, thank you for talking to out just now much about time together. now we're going to be talking about african stone, your closest neighbor because the world has been watching the taliban takeover. let me start by asking you about this moment because in some ways we see the conflict ending the bombing in the fighting ending. but on the other hand, you have people, particularly in cobble, very wary, very worried, very scared about the taliban, and many wanting to flee the country. so do you see this moment is a positive or negative one?

there is uncertainty, but i think the anxiety has gone down from where it was on the 15th of august for a number of reasons. one that has been no bloodshed after the takeover to the chances of a civil war and immediate civil war have been averted. 3, you know, after the announcement of a general amnesty and commitment that there'll be no revenge. there is more comes so i don't think people are that restless at the moment, but yes, things remain uncertain. and if not addressed, some of the challenges not addressed immediately. then they contain different done . i'd like to ask you more about the current situation in the moment,

but let me just go back and examine what went wrong in afghanistan. let me start at the beginning. do you think the u. s. should have intervened in 2001 perhaps they had no choice then. you know, the, the compulsion of public opinion after 911 was such a big perhaps had no choice. some say the u. s. would be better at once. it had intervened in 2001 then to have stepped out, put in the un peacekeeping force with, with islamic countries taking part. and certainly it would have been good if they hadn't diverted their attention to iraq. do agree with that. those debates can go on, but they should have, in my view, focused on what they had gone in for. and the immediate focus that they've gone in was to distribute either and punish people who were responsible for 911. once had done that, then they should have,

in my view, book to words, he reconciliation and be se reconstruction effort is sort of sort of, you know, the, the destroyed infrastructure would have been rebuilt so that the country could have gone towards in normal life. if you look at the money that was spent, the bulk, the money that was spent was on security and less on development. and what you saw, you know, when taliban moved in the government, if i show any, had lost credibility at support. because people felt that life under them hadn't bought improved, didn't not secure. and they were squabbling. there was in fighting and they were not certain about their future. but that sometimes there's another

factor. and that's the fact that taliban had a safe haven in your country. let me just quote, umbrella sally, the former vice president of afghanistan. we don't know where he is now. he fled to pen chair and he's disappeared. but he says it's very clear the taliban would never under pressure. they use pakistan as their support based not centuries. the whole of pakistan was at the service of the taliban. you could expect that from across holly, you know, he speaks somebody else's language. you know, he is briefed from, you know, by one of our neighbors and, you know, india, you're claiming, obviously, and you know, he's has been on their, on their payroll for a while now. but what pakistan did baucus on cleanser to tears boxed on undertook number of obligations to clean up. and we did it successfully at

a cost the safe havens the fighters were across, you know, they, they, they, they, they were in a fine, it's fun. and we didn't find safe havens that were being used against back us thought ah, it is what cleansed there was silence there was monitoring going on whenever would accuse of savings. we sit. we will take you into the tribal region and come and see for yourself foreign minister if i can turn to the current situation. the banking system in afghanistan is badly functioning. salaries are not being paid on this program a week ago. the you and 2nd, general antonio good terrace, said his biggest fear it was a total economic collapse. do you share that? worry because i do. what would it mean for afghanistan and the region, your country to? well,

the collapse could lead to exodus a huge influx of refugees moving in all directions towards bach. her saw towards it all was thought it was thought it could be stabilized in dire region and we are concerned about that. the collapse could give space those people that we want, defeated the terrace that we have worked so hard to, to, to sort of eradicate collapse will have serious consequences not just were pockets on but for the dia region. and then the consequences can even spell out of the region. you mention what you call terrorists. there were in africa jails, not just taliban. there were members of eyesore, the members of the pakistani talking about how worried are you about some of those people who got fried in those 1st days as the taliban were taking control of the

country road people who did the people who are in jails like people who are linked to t t p. if they are free and sort of hopping around it, concerns me. in terms of the can nomic situation. what about afghanistan assets? my understanding is there's about $10000000000.00, which currently is locked away? the taliban con, get to. should that money be unlocked? now given the problems this, the very dar economic problems that you've just talked about and the secretary general's been talking well, homicide needs a economic injection. and that money could come in handy if available. so what would your advice be to the international community and those that are holding that money? i'm sure some of it be on freeze. all of it. i mean, i would say untreated make it available on people. you know, there's

a humanitarian crisis in the making use that money to address that crisis. but some countries, and i'm sure when you've been here at the you, in general assembly been speaking to other foreign ministers from some western countries. a wary about giving that amount of money potentially to the taliban. they can be, they can be ways and means devised to ensure that the money gets to the needy. and it's not misused. how do you make a mechanism that does that, whether you and can play a role? let me ask you about the taliban. what they've done so far. they came in promising an inclusive government. they were talking to figures like the former president. how? because the fog chief executive, dr. abdullah and yet they came out with a cabinet that was all taliban. what happened to those talks? it seems that they are not on aware of including other

ethnic groups. but to build a consensus it takes time. it takes time and the initial inter, him announcement was fairly, you know, boston but then the additions that they've made later on junior ministers. but that's inclusion. you know, and that level can go up and they can be more intuitive and that shows that they have accepted mankey the idea of inclusivity by having tactics in, by having was mixed. and having has autism very small number until we come back to the beginning. the beginning, we'll come back and the women because that's a very important point, but in politics you know, no one ever wants to given anything up in the telephone right now. seem to pretty much have absolute control. why would they want to give that up? for, for stability of their country for reconciliation within a fun spot. what role did pakistan have in the formation of the cabinet?

was it just a coincidence in the hours beforehand, the head of your military intelligence, the i saw a general fires. hamid was in couple meeting the taliban or did he help shape that initial cabinet? they are very independent minded people. they take their own decisions and v as a policy have decided not to interfere in their internal matters. we will help when asked to help. and our objective be will help to achieve our objectives, what our objectives object as appease instability. so whatever we can do to achieve peace instability be was do we have no business in defending and then internal affairs. but we had a border and we have concerns. there's trade that goes on to back us on the growing footprint of either another data organizations is of concern. and if can fez was in cobbled to address those concerns. it was but

natural. so it was just a coincidence. he happened to be there in the hours before the cabinet before because many people thought he was that trying to negotiate. i don't know whether he was trying to negotiate for figures that focused on favored or whether he was trying to negotiate for a more inclusive government. but certainly the speculation you say doctor on parker has been advocating for a more conclusive approach in terms of that taliban cabinet. it all taliban. some observers at the top and say it's all only old taliban, it's hard line taliban. the ones and the key positions are the ones that were pointing rather than the ones that would go see a negotiating in doha, for example, miller brother, who was the main negotiator, has ended up as the deputy prime minister. yet he was the most prominent figure in the negotiations. do you see this is a hard line taliban cabinet. it's, it's a,

it's a, it's a compromise in politics to make compromises. you have to accommodate all points of view. and both sides have been dicking in, in terms of the taliban. now as you know, they've been all sorts of reports. we haven't been able to confirm them, so i'd like your view on it. of rouse division in the tell about even angry arouse with a threat of violence. let me quote you something that was set by the un secretary general. recently at the beginning of the p 5 meeting, the permanent members of the security council. he said afghanistan is unpredictable . we see a struggle for power within the taliban leadership. what's pakistan assessment? there's a struggle for par if he democracy. there's a struggle for power in every society and of hon. no different of those cabinet members. there are 33 main members of the cabinet. many are on the un sanctions list. what should the un in your view do about latch that includes the

prime minister to deputy prime ministers to foreign minister? should those sanctions now be lifted at this stage? so that you can engage better with the taliban in the talks that they were having with the us, which lead to a peace agreement. but the us and then commenced in south hon negotiations. ah, one here was that there was talk of the listing people who are in the actions list. now, to what extent that commitment was made, you know more, le prouder and i was out of methods arts would know better. the other thing that we noticed that the cabinet is that there are no women in the cabinet right now. women are not really being allowed to go round about the normal business, the northern to go to the jobs we've seen that boys are going back to school girls

and not. no, no, i disagree. my information is that girls are going to school. girls are going to college, they have not been restricted, but yes, ah, d a can be accommodated in the cabinet and who knows tomorrow if you need and have some inclusion, that might be a good idea. certainly on getting different information view with speaking to people in composition, say that most women finding their lives very restricted. they're not allowed to go out without male companions. and most schools are not, are not, are not put. i've heard. they would then not open because of different reasons. you can't paid salaries to teachers. you know, the schools need teachers. if you don't have teachers, how do you function schools that are other problem?

it's not just a ideological reason, you know, they have said so that they will not prohibit goes from going to school and i hope they live up to it. well yeah, i'd like your view on that because pakistan is a country where women can go about their normal business. you had a had a woman prime minister and i know you served for a time. what do you think about restrictions that the taliban are placing on on women and women employment? i heard and correct me if i'm wrong that they ask people who are in service to come back and work they did initially. but yes, but my understanding is that many women are not being allowed to return to the actual jobs that they, they had that initial statement, but women and not being invited back to the, to, to employment. i have not heard of any restriction above sea,

but perhaps the for the passage of time, you know, they would sort of gain confidence and you have to understand that is a trust deficit. and it takes time to bridge that trust deficit. in terms of pocket stone, you have that very long border with afghanistan. you're one of the neighbors, but you're the one that has had more refugees than any you got 2600 kilometers border. it's currently close to most afghans. why is that the board is open? it's not closed. it's not close. only if you have the right paperwork, can you cross most people commission is the question is would you allow people in to your country without a passport, without documentation, without visas to still be still what they are there certain norms that you have to for a certain norms all over the world, but as you know, that african pakistan board has been

a pretty porous border for decades and their family exactly either side of it when the border will support us. we paid a price. and so, you know, we were accused that people cross from the side, you know, and create trouble over there. and v eventually fence the border. and now we have fenced the border for better management and regulation. one figure that you know, well, i know the former pockets on a basset a to the u. s. has st. connie warned even before the taliban take over, this was be a pyrrhic victory for pakistan. he said that would be a violent blow back with the pockets on the taliban attacking targets inside pakistan. how concerned are you about that coming to pass? i think the father bond had a beta. claire. they have made

a commitment that they will not allow their soil to be used against any one. and that includes pakistan for terrorist purposes. and i hope they live up to that promise. we have though, a huge amount of weaponry in afghanistan. some of the most sophisticated weaponry which was either left behind by the americans or was in the hands of the african army. and it is now there in afghanistan. i'll give you an example is it's never good making comparisons with different countries, but just look what happened in libya after the fall of gadhafi. and the way that de stabilized the sale region. do you have worries about all that weaponry flooding the, the, the area if it gets into the wrong hands, yes, it will concern me. obviously to concern me. it will effect the lone auto situation in my country. yes. that is why we are urging the international

community to engage with the new reality so that kings do not fall apart so that there is a symbol in order. one worrying report is about the taliban justice molar to robbie, who was the former head of the religious place of the taliban before apparently now is in charge of the prisons and a recent interview signal. they can go back to public executions and amputations for crimes. what do you make of that? i am not aware of that. i'm not aware of that. that is not the sort of. i've gone to stone, you'd like as a neighbor though, i'm not at all, not at all. in terms of the security situation inside pakistan, you had that bloody campaign of terrorist attacks and 2072014. how is the

security situation right now? and i'm asking in part, because as you know, it seems a bit flipping to bring up cricket. now, after all these heavy subjects we've talked about, but, you know, both new zealand and england have cancelled their plans to play in pakistan because of the security situation. and threats, but they haven't disclose what those threats are. i wish they did. when we learned about it being gate for them, we assured them off security and protection and to, you know, to reduce settings id and to make them feel more protected. we also suggested that we will have these stadiums empty. right, but let the game gone. but they pulled back. it was disappointing. what effect do you think what happened in afghanistan could have on the regional dynamics? because yours is a difficult region and your relationship, particularly with india, is difficult to get very strange relationship particularly concerning kashmir. well,

i hope india stops playing the role of a spoiler. india has been playing the role of a spoiler in of on a song. and they have not been helpful in the peace process. in fact, the obstruction us and the process. and if they had not concluded with the government and blocked the negotiation process, they could have been a political settlement focused on is a democracy. you've had periods and military rule that seem to be on a pretty stable path of democracy. right now i've got a son, was a democracy from 2004. yes, maybe a floored democracy. no one is mentioning elections or voting for africans now has

the international community given up on the idea of afghans having democracy? no, i don't think they have even been the talks were going on. there was an understanding that they will be in data management before they go into elections. right? so let things settle down, let things come down, let people feel secure. then we can talk about representation. now in terms of recognition of the town about your here at the un general assembly leaders from around the world, this is the one week where they're all in one place. the taliban written a letter saying that they want to be the body that has the un seat. what is pakistan view on that? do you think that the credentials committee which decides this that they should give the seat to the taliban? i think he could dentures committee could good and should think by giving

a seat to the representative who was appointed by the previous government that fled and is no longer there. he has no boss who there is no boss. there is no acceptability. the rulers, in the authorities in cobble do not recognize him. what role can he play? who does he speak for? you know, you know, it's just a very practical way of looking at things who delete a present. so that's the un seat pakistan also has to decide as a country whether to recognise the taliban as the government of afghanistan. last time the taliban were in power. in the 1900 ninety's, you are one of just 3 governments. recognize the taliban. what are your thoughts on that? because that will be decision for you and for your prime minister enron con. do you think it is time soon to recognise the tell about we are,

we are watching video observing, as things unfold. and we will take that decision at an appropriate time. sharma, mood, correct? she foreign minister of pakistan. thank you for talking to our to say i more and more in the going under the normal to become tall. ah, when i want to investigate the length some people are willing to go to bridge new on al jazeera, examining the headline. we can have a political the census. well that's because the phone should not be the reason for kill other women invest because his german location we've gained access to a training can run by the surgeon boy from different corner. i never see,

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