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lose the around the license plates recognize potential between serbia and both sides of deployed soldiers and special police for the border. why has one of your gotten this be escalated now? this isn't a walk into the program. i am ron con. there war ended 21 years ago, but ethnic and political divisions remain alive between serbia and crossover. and they've escalated in the past week over car license plates. serbia doesn't recognize call so they plates

a makes drivers by temporary ones while going through the country when cost of did the same cost of a subs blocked to border crossings, and set a vehicle registration center on file pensions worse and when causeway send special police to the area of serbia, infant tanks, to inside of the border and flu fight digits i, the head nato. peacekeepers have increased that patrols in the area to try and calm the situation. said me done. that shock. been 7 days of these activities aimed only to raise tensions and threaten us to be in people that must be stopped. the situation is returned as it had been before when the circumstances were gone for normal because they have not been nominate for the past 21 years. and then we can sit down and talk. the european commission president is visiting the region and is urging all sides to talk. it is vital that customer in serbia normalize relations. we've been discussing the issues. i must say, i'm very concerned about the current crisis. it is important to de escalate and to

return to the negotiation table to find a sustainable solution. and the only way to do that is the facilitated dialogue. that is the only platform to resolve the current crisis. but off the yellow venica was last week, serbia refused the dialogue and brussels while giving conditions. and this week they refused the agreement proposed by the nato lead peacekeeping classify force. we accepted both of these proposals because of declared independence from serbia in 2008 of the years of strained relations between the majority ethnic albanian population and minority serbs. the u. s. and major european union countries recognize cause of his breakaway, but serbia refuses to do so. cost for his membership of the united nations is blocked by serbia's traditional ally, russia. about $4000.00 nato peacekeepers remain on the ground after the military

alliance intervened to end the cost by war in 1999. the you began that sponsoring talks between the 2 sides in 2013, but they've made little progress. resolving the conflict is one of the main conditions for both countries to join the blog. the. let's bring it, i guess in belgrade jackson, crash format, deputy prime minister serbia in berlin bota where the senior associate at the democratization policy council and in brussels beach accept you. policy analyst and editor in chief of brussels report dot you welcome to the program. let's begin in belgrade, where the joker crash, the cost of government is accusing your government of trying to provoke a serious, international conflict. why isn't? well, it's obviously all based on a completely unresolved relations in belgrade, and reached enough for the moment. they are more or less frozen,

but this particular incident has been provoked by the fact that 5 years ago in brussels as some measure of agreement has been achieved, including car license plates. it was, it was set up and signed by the current president of me. so the problem, the problem is going to be resolved by vs actually expired a few weeks ago. and the prime minister of course will be said ok. now we can result in 2 ways, either because from book fox to go through a drive through the con, respecting countries without any restrictions, or we will make the st. felicia that serve in the serbian place. we'll have to also provision unfortunately and then teach and send

police a special police forces at the bottom and teach the president of serbia erected very angrily. and he said basically, just holding him, it's not what i think. but basically that's what he said. serbia is the recognized country member or q, and you can also dictate that we should change all the lights of play. think what's on the other hand is not for the southern country and we are not going to change our position. of course, the big question is why ben this, he's signed this agreement 5 years ago. and i have also to mention that the course has local elections in a month. so i'll be in the prime minister, of course has reasons to be have. so to say, you know, that way in this particular prize it, on the other hand, what each one store presents himself as a strong liza. and the also has like 67 months. he has election serbia including a presidential election. so in this case, we have

a conflict to potential at the border or other serious one for no real reason whatsoever. car license plates are such a trivial to say thing and the cause of if you want my personal opinion, there's absolutely no reason why this with rockwell should not be resolved in a way that also carson vehicles both for serbia with our own car plates and number plates and serbian car was 14 years old going to be the quickest way of doing that is to recognise cost of this won't come any time. so you have so i'm exposing the position of my government. my own is that, you know, recognizing the claims illegal to say, a declination of independence. and there is a number of countries in the world. it did not recognize independence like china, russia,

many other countries. and i have to emphasize which is interesting that there are some countries that did not recognize independence. so 1st of all, spain, greece, slovakia, romania, cypress. so you are neither here nor there was certainly a wants negotiations implement, but i have no idea what this particular government that i do not support. and i, i strongly disagree with these policies. i, it's unclear to me how they see a compromise in, in the case of possible declare, independence. i don't see the, i've never seen a real proposal from beggars called the result. but whether in berlin, what is pristina thinking right now is it, as i guessed in belgrade, says a mixture of domestic issues, elections, and talking tough. and the fact that that hasn't been agreement in 5 years, or is this simply kosovo? now asserting some independence? well, i would agree with my predecessor,

the what turned into them one of the most serious clashes and conflict dispute in years between cost one sir bell, over in the framer of this, this long lasting status dispute, serbia, disputing the status. so as an independent fate of called the replica of causal is really has been a minor issue. this is, let me remind you. it's about a previous, a cream and one off a 2 dozen agreements struck within the context of the so called you will lead political dialogue established between costs. one survey established in 2012 and it is covering an issue of a provisional transitional agreement that started in 2011 was expanded for 5. maria's in 2016. as mr. cortez noted and expired mid of april this year. so this

on the one in is a very marginal issue. on the other hand, we have seen of a new government, mr. cortez government, former opposition, protest movement turned power. the government that came into government in power the beginning of this year, much more research is not only towards serbia, but also towards the west and not being as flexible and maybe conformance towards the west as any previous government. but the very fact that this minor issue and the agreement of 2016 left open to review the issue when this agreement expires, which happened on september 14 this year. and maybe to extend it. so there were expect that there was no basis on, on the forward backward and pushing this time. agreeing is not only on christian. this mirrors the fact that we have seen a political dialogue set up 201213 by a very strong performing german chance to merkel in cooperation with the entire

u. n. d u. s. having achieved historic breakthroughs, lewis, let's talk about that is a role. let's talk about the use role here is quite crucial. we have in brussels. peter, peter, i mean, where is the you in all of this right now? i mean, it said that in order to join the block, both countries need to recognize each other and they need to sort this out. that hasn't happened in 21 years. no. and indeed to, to accept to it, to expect a serbia to recognize possible anytime soon as probably not, not very realistic. i think in general the situation is of course, very dense. this called fix. go back a very long time. but here, i mean, this is a region we're do. european union actually does have quite a bit of inference. and then particularly on, on course of all over the even can even is playing

a role in its it's institutions. it has the role in the appointment of judges, for example. so, so i mean, if of all the conflicts in the worlds, i mean this is actually an area where you could have some pool. now the you has, of course, made an effort. it, it has with, with limitations of course try to pacify the situation. avoidance to 2 big sites, which i think is very important. it's, it's dangerous to pick a side even if you secretly think one side is more guilty than the other sites. i must say that also on the other hand in recent years that you has missed certain opportunities. and then i'm particularly thinking of the id that is pushed forward by serbia to have some kind of a mini shing and in the, in the west or balkan. so, so the idea of serbia, us to have an area where it's neighbors are not

a member of the you order would no not be any passport checks. so i think that's something you would expect that you are to support. and interestingly, the countries that are most opposed to it or kosovo and, and montenegro, so focus of or where do you has most influence or, and montenegro that is so to speak, all ready, most integrateds in the west of all the western balkan countries, given the fact that it is a need to need to a member states. now they are they sort of see this as a grand sir, be an id. i mean, and you can sort of follow the logic. but at the end of the day, the idea is not to have any passport checks so. so this is obviously great for people in montenegro and serbia in albany or in kosovo. so perhaps i think that you should have exploited data pertaining to the fact that serbia is actually proposing something that is breaking down barriers you saying august in in belgrade,

one of the things peter clap is saying joker crush is actually, this is a solvable conflict by the european union has some influence within the region, particularly in kosovo. so wasn't the serbian government listening. why isn't peace breaking out? you know, i always liked the program. i don't know where from where there is where there is wish me meaning if you really want to do something, you will find the way i keep my life experience exactly that. the problem of course, is the serbia, everything now sees is a problem or it's so to say, quiet nation of possible allowing, strangely, not allowing possible car license plates to go through serbia. i want to explain something given information for your audience,

and you 95 percent of the course of all buses. they just placer be, they don't face or they just go through serbia into western europe because serbia is on the north proposal. and they need to take this route to go into western europe. a lot of the citizens, of course, work in your country. so they just classroom they, it's really a minor from it. but serbia or be able to do government sees this is so many states have agreements that that's usually mutually agreed. and so to say on the need would be which by the way is not completed. and then i think said this lead the want to make this concept, he will be use of making some kind of major poll, but independent. so course, i don't agree personally, i don't degree at all. i think this is the, i think

a guy this joke. i don't know if you seem to be saying that this is a minor crisis, but when it comes to things like license plates when it comes to national identity and national is i'm having a little flag on your license plate or having it, it becomes a very important thing for us nations who are trying to stablish the identity base . it is about license plates. this was the spot, but this is much more than just about allowing cars to go through allowing buses to go through serbia. this is about establishing a national identity and the bottom line is that serbia doesn't recognize costs and therefore doesn't want any cause of ensigns within serbia itself. i mean that's, that's the bottom line, right? when i'm being the psychologist, fully aware of what you're talking about, the value of symbolic things. the cod license plates in this case are becoming a symbolic. but the answer to this is they shouldn't because the course of all the

vehicles we're actually going through serve the with the serbian are so called the temporary license plate. so what the the, the prime minister also wants to make this, we're all, there is one problem and i'm sorry to little bit expensive debate. i missed a call, the became a prime minister by saying the previous government, the government in place was actually, and i'm literally reflecting his, his accusation was illegal because they say bought or they got on their side some in peace. and they have a very minor the former government has a very minor majority. and so he's actually saying, i don't accept any agreement that was signed the brussels that the signed by the previous government, which brings us nowhere. i don't think we should go that way because then we could,

she's doing exactly the same. he's saying ok, i saw the goal, you will, you did not feel some obligations from best agreement on your side. so i'm not going to port obligation on my side. and basically this cannot go forever special courses, police forces, the serbs are sleeping, intense they're, they're 24 hours blocking and curiosity. these are 2 pos is border passes between closer. but one is open and some service claims that about 2000 because they actually took temporary personal license plates . so it shows that they're reasonable people on both sides of the inside as well. of course it will serve you on site and they know that this zone and the crossing, the closure of the office will have effects not only political,

but also economic because no trucks bring food that bring things out there actually did. today's we actually did reach out to the cost of the government, including the promises office to try and get the costs in response to exactly what you're saying. they didn't get back to us. and in fact, in some cases, i think as you turn this down, but in berlin we do have bota webber. i'm but you're, you're a teen watcher of the region. one of the, one of the things that we're really talking about right now is this idea of national identity and national identity being important and played through things like license plates. is this an intractable conflict? is this like an 8 at all given between 2 countries? it's just an resolvable, simply because these are 2 very young nation states who are trying to establish a national identity. this and i mean this kind of rhetoric and narrative about intractable and the nationalist conflict we have seen in the,

during the 9900 wars. but the rumor, a re, a reflection of the west, lacking the political will to serious engage this conflict is all but intractable. let me remind you that in 2012, 13 when, when left by germany, jensen, merkel and the u. s. and you pay the use seriously with us support started to deal with the state of dispute. they managed to establish the political dialogue. acosta will serve you will let they manage to pressure served with their leverage towards recognizing the fact recognizing the existence of an independent fate of course with the loss of causal for the state of serbia. we had the april 2013 agreement which was a defect no recognition through the linking or the conditioning of your membership perspective. for a survey. with the recognizing the reality of the, of an independent clause, the weight was only a question of time to follow through with that dialogue,

whether the b u and the west did not follow through the dialogues credibly slept into, slipped into prices and turned in the opposite and turned into serbia and costs of all the leaders exploiting the weakness of the west and trying to turn this dialogue into their pursuit. so for 5 years, this negotiation on crises and the fact that the minor issue of a provisional agreement on license plate. but we've behind which is the bigger issue of recognition, of course, which i repeat was not an issue. we had a break for a potential one on the 10 years ago that it returned into the weakness of the west. let's bring in pizza clip and brussels. we're talking about license plates, but much more now we're talking about regional rivalries. every time, told by costs why we talk about the european union. every time seems to be serbia, we talk about russia. we're talking about very powerful plays backing these 2 small

countries. and that's why this conflict hasn't been solved in 21 years. it's just a failure that right? well yeah, i mean, obviously i think we should always stress that the problem is there, i mean, and whatever mistake that you may have made to ultimately, the problem is with the course of all and serbia. now that sets with a previous guest also mentioned is that the you have to actually follow true on his promises. and i think that's true. the you has been making what you could call perhaps false promises a, suggesting that your membership was around the corner. busy and interestingly, today the emerged that there were diplomatic reports revealing basically what everybody knows, that there's great opposition in your member states against a rushing to grands membership to these lesser bolcom country. so i think the lesson here are to 1st of all of the you should refrain from making or the

false promise of a quick you membership. and secondly, they should also have an alternative us, an alternative that does not mean that these countries will never become a member of the you, but some kind of an arrangement that already could mean some progress. and there again, i would like to mention this kind of id of a single markets or a michigan passport free zone for d west or balkan countries. those are not yet a member of the european union. and i think those are realistic projects that already paid, who we already have to point. i do want to put your point to all of the guess i'm going to start in belgrade. first with a joke. who crush dock is e u membership, that much of a deal for serbia that it's willing to solve it's complex with cost of in order to get it or the you membership, not even

a thing that is worth even discussing loca, the un are famous for having all kinds of burning soon. agreements that basically say, but the thing is really different. i will give you an example. i'm not sure survey will live up fully recognized score so independent. but you can always science for a mutually by being agreed. that's it. so or so we agreed not to block, questionable bits to become member of you and so you can always have ways to find the solution. i'm only going to have to cut you off next. i do want to make this point to bother web as well. is your membership important for christina? just very quickly. it is important for both countries until that membership perspective was credible. we were on the path for serbia solving that issue and

record to we're moving towards recognizing costs. since we have a sped among member states over enlargement, when we have a serious conflict between the french president macro truly being against enlargement and membership perspective, and berlin, this perspective became an credible and the whole dialogue and the solution to work a solution. all this data space was waning and that's why we would end it and this and if we don't have this membership perspective, we will either solve this conflict and we will move back into open conflict. our thank all august jog, crash bota, webber and pizza clip a and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again any time by visiting our website out there at dot com. and for further discussion, go to facebook page at facebook dot com, forward slash ha inside story. and you can also join the conversation on twitter. we are at a insight story from me and ron called,

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